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I thought I didn’t like the “Orange sound” until this video. Loved a lot of these. Just ordered a Micro Dark and pretty excited about it especially after watching this. I quite liked it. But now I’m interested in the bigger ones!
May biased since I own an MKIII but that's definitely the best of the bunch. Dual Terror seems a close second for me followed by the OR15. Great demo as always!
That crunch riff is SO catchy, really really love these demo tracks and the fact you focus on tones and simple riffs rather than showing off shredding. So much more relatable.
Thanks for the comparison, you did a monumental work! Still impossible to decide which one to take though, so many sounds amazing! The Rockerverb sounds amazing at high gain, and I find the Jim root to get really close sound wise.
I suppose it might not be for everyone but I love that AD30 sound so much. I’m constantly hoping Line 6 adds an AD30 model in some future Helix update.
Great video! Wow! Nice job! I own a OR120, OR15 and a Micro Dark. I’ve had a Dual Dark 100 and TH100. Ironically my favorites are the Dual Dark and TH100. Lol. You made the Micro Dark sound incredible. My favorite out of that bunch. OR15 is second.
One little point of criticism - all sound examples sport doubled guitars. You should have added the "single tracked" sounds for better comparison to an "ordinary" playing situation. And the Micro Terror would also have deserved to be boosted.
Great vids brother. Really appreciate all your content . Love all these Orange amps. I have an EVH 6l6 50 watt and been eye balling these Orange amps cuz I dig the sound of em and curious to hear what they would sound like in a mix with an EVH or something like a mesa recto.
I bought the micro dark on sale for $109. Never played in Orange before. I really like it and I'm just struggling with the shape control a little. The knobs are very sensitive which is good. I like a mid-range tone. Not scooped .. any advice you can give me I'd really appreciate it thanks brother great demo!!!
Thanks for this video. In it you mention doing a full review of the AD30. Is that still pending? :) Also, I love the tune in this demo! You should do an album of your songs.
@@SonicDriveStudio That is reasonable! It would be interesting to see the full review and hear your thoughts on why it isn't your kind of amp and who you think it might be best for! Thanks for all the great content.
So, all other things being equal, what’s your go-to citrus-flavored amp among the 15-20watt heads for a heavier sound to layer in among, say, other Mesa and Diezel-type tones? I’m a huge fan of multi-amp setups, and I’m always looking for low-wattage (ie, neighbor-friendly) tonal options 😁I find your informed insight to be a valuable resource - Thanks for all the info!
@@SonicDriveStudio True but if I was trying to buy one of these amps and wanted to hear what they sound like, I'd need another video to see how it sounds on its own, with only one guitar
1. TH30 because it has the most definition to me. 2. Dark Terror, because even though it is a little less defined to me, it still suits every genre. 3. Rockerverb 50, because it has the classic sound Orange sound, and is still versatile. Honorable mention: Micro Dark, because I have one and it sounds pretty clear. But it doesn’t have the fullness “umf” that it’s bigger all tube brothers have.
Top 3 for me: 1. Dual Terror 2. Rocker 15 3. Micro Dark I hopefully you can update sometimes in the future with the Super Crush and the Crush Pro. Curious about those solid state amps versus the other valve brothers. Thank you for your hard efforts with this video Jon! Cheers!
It's made in England, too, which probably has more to do with it. Most of the other amp back panels that I can find for the less expensive orange amps say "made in PRC" I guess their marketing department figured out that some people won't immediately recognize that as CHINA. (I have no problem with the latter, though - nobody's making tube heads full tube high wattage heads for
@@daw162 Now I have no problem craping on the commie, organ harvesting, shit land that is China, but a good bit of it is the wattage. The headroom really comes through in the recordings. Also, I believe all of the amps except the rockerverb use el84 tubes and the rockerverb uses el34; I've run el84 yellow jackets in 6l6 and el34 amps and you really get a big tone difference(still could just be that decreased headroom from lower wattage tubes).
This was very interesting. I went through a few times and compared them back to back. My top 3 in order: 1. Rocker 15, 2. Rockerverb 50, 3. Dark Terror. The Rocker and Rockerverb are remarkably close. The Rocker 15 mids cut in a way that just did it for me. I never would have thought I would pick the lunchbox over the fullsize.
A hell of a job! Thanks a lot! I'm playing my trusted RV MKI 50 head with 4x6V6 now for at least 10 years and never looked back. The four gainstages on the drivechannel provide many different tones. I experimented with preamptubes for the clean channel which sits somewhere between a Vox and a Fender. It's chimey and has quite some headroom for bigger venues. The OR15 has the same sort of od-structure as the RV. But in fact I liked most of the demo'd amps. I'm just not to keen on the Dark-versions. But that's personal.
Rocker 15 Terror surprised me a bit actually. However, favorite is the Rockerverb (biased opinion as I own the 100w version). The Dark series and TH30 almost seem to be an Orange sprinkled with mesa? Killer video my dude!
I've listened back and forth for an hour. A buddy of mine picked up a or15 and I have the dark terror. I was surprised how awesome the or15 is. But in this comparison the rocker 15 edges them both out
Is it me or the Orange Rocker 15 Terror head sounds better than the Rocker 15 Combo? Seems like the Combo version drive channel gets fuzzy past 12 o'clock.
I love the OR 15 and the Dark Terror. How the heck did they get those micros to sound so good. I preferred them to some of the bigger more expensive options.
I was surprised at the Micro Dark. I own the Rocker Terror 15 and love it, but I might have to get that Micro Dark as well. Thanks for doing this, and I love your songwriting.
You were a big influence with your video and I went for the OR15 . It suit me perfectly and it is an amazing head combine with a booster Spark booster from TC Electronic and a Maxon OD808
Agree. I think the last riff with the dual terror and rockerverb sounded somewhat similar. The rockerverb sounded meaner and the dual terror sounded airier. I could totally live with the dual terror though.
@@Soldano999 I think they’re the best things Orange has done. Perfect tone really. The others just seem to barely miss. Or15 is also great. More compressed and plenty of (too much) gain but it’s the only other I’d say is 97% as good tonally. And fx loop and tone stack... really easy to turn on and play. Never have to try very hard with it.
I have the OR15 and Brent Hinds, it’s all I’ll ever need. Well, until I find any other Orange on the used market. 😎 I want them all. I’m a huge orange fanboy, although not a rich one.
I never had an actual, real amp other than my old little marshall bedroomcombo, I got my Neural DSP one day and used it ever since... But I always wanted a real amp and for some reason, I saw myself really drawn towards Orange amps, idk what it is, but their look, their sound, I always enjoyed it. But there are so many of them which all seem pretty similar, so thanks for this video! I'm still amazed by your attention to detail in those reviews, really man, keep up the great work!!
Amps can take up so much space, it can't be wrong that a big part of the reason I'm heavily favoring Orange for a first amp is their look! Fits right in with my interior design lol
Watched this video numerous times over. With the exception of all the description parts of each amp head in every segment. Every video sound and look exactly the same. Camera pans to each amp, light on and cable in. No difference to me. Absolutely none. The sound track recorded is really good and the playing is great. Never been disappointed with this channel. Unfortunately after much investigation and paying attention. This one didn't have me believing anything other than the guy is always a great player with killer riffs.
I'll definitely be picking up a Micro Dark soon, especially hearing how close it is to the Dark Terror for a fraction of the price. It just sounds great compared with everything here, I can't super easily justify spending 700 on a dark terror when I could pay 200 for a Micro Dark.
Geez, my amp sucks 😞. Dark terror is my choice. I was listening but not watching. When that one was being played, I stopped in my tracks. Might have to investigate that one. I need a new amp bad. Currently I have a Marshall code 50 combo solid state. It’s over engineered and annoying.
Dude. This is an insane amount of work! Thank you. I'm still on course to buy a Rockerverb, but this demo definitely makes me consider to grab an OR15 or Jim Root if I see a cheap one online.
Man that jim root terror sounds fantastic to me. Very similar characteristics to the big boy rockerverb but at 15w. Great review. Also thank you for the timestamps.
The “shape” knob seems to work like the “contour” knob on my old transistor amp (Marshall MG30). Since that one was positioned in between the bass and treble knob, though, it made me assume I preferred a high-mids sound, rather than a scooped low-mids sound. This led me to dial the ENGL Invader in exactly the wrong way when I first tried it out. Then again, from all the demos of the Invader I’ve heard here on RU-vid (Mk I and MkII), I found neither particularly impressive - at least considering the price. Now they no longer seem to be available anyway. Looks like I’m not the only one who never really liked their sound - even though I wanted to (given the four independent EQs for each channel).
Very cool video. I assume these were re-amped tracks, as the playing sounds identical between amps. Anyway, I listened super close and for crunch, the TH30 and RV50 had that 3D enveloping tone. The AD30 nailed the clean and had some noticeable chime on the crunch. For high gain, I would go Tiny Terror, which sounded similar to the Root and Dual Terror. Rocker 15 and RV50 and even the OR15 were nice for high gain as well and sounded really similar. I would not go with the AD30, TH30, or Dark for high gain unless you were doing super dark sludge, and I wouldn’t go with the Tiny Dark (whatever the last amp was) for any of the tones.
They all seem to have the same standard Orange sound as a basis (except for the low-gain AD30), and you’re mainly paying more if you want more channels and knobs… 😁
Great comparison video. My favorite was the AD30. I used to own a Crush 35RT and regrettably sold it. After an abusive love affair with Fender Amps I came back to Orange and got a Crush. 20RT at a deal I couldn't pass up. As a bedroom player it's plenty loud even when my son jams along on his bass or I'm taking a lesson over Zoom. I hope to one-day get the Rocker 15 combo or TremLord 30.
What a great review ! I really enjoyed the track you wrote and jammed along to it. So now I have to buy an Orange amp and the LTD guitar sounds pretty good actually 😂🤣🎸🤘
I love my Orange Rocker 15 Terror with 2x PPC112 in stack. Great Vintage British rock tones and metal territory, but if you pushed it with tube screamer type pedal, you easily can play some heaviest sounds :) Great comparision! Love your channel! You do Great work!
This is a awesome video. I hear some differences between the amps, but I was comparing the Rocker 15 terror with the MKIII and I could not hear that much difference. Is that just me?
Is there a particular reason why you switched to the captor for the micros? Also, I have an ad30 that I'd like to try this with, so does it matter which load box I use, the 8 or 16 ohm?
Really awesome video love the sound of the rockerverb its on another level and i really like the Brent hinds 👌, im a complete beginner and am thinking the micro dark terror will be my first amp 😁 🤟👊
After hearing all of them, I’m now sure I made the right choice with the TH30 for the style of music I play and the way I play (open chords). They’re all amazing though!
Out of the micros, I actually like the regular micro over the dark for hi gain - its a bit more biting. Pity about the one tone control/no loop though.
I cant really tell much difference between any of these, are they all DI’d. Would it be more helpful to have a mic in the room so that we can hear the difference through the speaker cabs…?
fantastic demo! I'm really impressed at how much time and effort you invest into this. I'm ashamed to say it, but it would have been sooo cool to have the new Super Crush in that Comparison.... oh, now I did say it....
@@SonicDriveStudio if you get your hands on one, it would be great to see a comparison between it and your Rockerverb as there are no good comparisons on RU-vid between the CR120/SC100 and RV50/100. Great video as always!!
Actually, Hunter on Agufish compared the SC100 and the Rockerverb...but we need more than one comparison!! As always Jon, killer comparison!! I think the TH-30 is gonna be it for me until I can snag a Dual Dark 100
