Order 66: Legends vs Canon Versions 

The narrative of that game was really sad, when I was a kid it didn't make any difference but now, those lines hit different

​@@manuelhurtado8935what game?

@@HMASbogan Star Wars Battlefront ll But the original one for PS2 The campaing includes dialogue and comments from the clone that is telling you the story and they said that it was really hard for them when order 66 was activated

the 501st journal

Referring to Jedi Master Aayla Secura

Isn't that from the original Star wars battlefront 2 game before the coruscant mission

​@@austinpotts8178 no its from the original battlefront.

@@knightofblackfyre7950 right the original battlefront 2 in the campaign

@@austinpotts8178 no, it was in the original Battlefront 1, not the original battlefront 2.

@@knightofblackfyre7950 bro the original battlefront game doesn't have the clone talking before the mission, in battlefront 2 the original one the clone would talk before the mission would start

I like the Legends version so much more, when Jedi and clones were mostly just professional acquaintances and the Jedi were often very incompetent in leading their troops in battles.

​@@dennis.edich1998 eh, the only issue is Cody and Obi-Wan were pretty close in both. I think there's a way to balance the 2 though

@@roycehuepers4325 I meant the absolute majority of clones and Jedi are less close in the EU. Cody and Obi-Wan are perhaps 2 of few exceptions.

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​​​@@dennis.edich1998the problem is that Palpatine is trying to eradicate witnesses of the Jedi, trying to destroy anyone who has interacted with them any way possible to the point they became a myth during the time of the empire. Palpatine cannot risk the fact that clones could be advisors, defectors or mentors to rebel cells after the clone wars. What better way to damage them physically and psychologically with a chip that impaired them for a period becoming nothing less than a corporate product of Kamino. The clones' lives were treated on the same tragic scale as the Jedi when the inhibitor chips were introduced, the idea that clones had free will contrasting themselves to droids was the biggest point of the clone wars. In the end it tragically didn't matter as their lives were seen to be thrown away by Kaminoans and the Empire.

“Good soldiers follow orders”

“Not when Order 66 came down, not on the flight to Coruscant, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple; not a word.”

Ah yes the 501st journal

The 501st journal was amazing!

Good game

And that’s that. Think of the amount of clones we know of by name. Fives, Appo, Rex, Cody, Wolfe, etc. we know only a small handful of the clone army who’s number conservatively are around 1.2 million and are at most 1.7 billion. That’s a staggering amount of clones, most of whom were complete slaves to the system; forced to fight in a war they have no say in all for Palpatine’s cruel chess game. They were considered the rightful property of the Republic, and were often euthanized rather than given proper medical care if they were wounded in combat.

In Legends/the EU, the clones had free will, because they weren't brainwashed but indoctrinated (take the people of North Korea as a real life example, they have free will seeing they aren't mind controlled but they are thought to obey and don't know how not to). From birth, the clones were trained to be one cohesive unit and fully dependent on a command structure. So if a higher ranking officer gave them an order, they followed it. But they were able to think negatively of the order but they were so indoctrinated that they just followed orders due to them not realizing they had the choice to disobey. This is why Palpatine actually made the Jedi generals during the Clone Wars, because simply said the Jedi were arrogant and were terrible at leading armies. The bad choices of many Jedi to lead to a large number of pointless casualties. And mistakes aside the Jedi were more then willing to sacrifice clone lives seeing they were considered less seeing they were not part of the natural order of the force. Because of these character flaws and lack of military experience the clones started to resent them and were more eager to execute their orders (and the jedi). in "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader - Part II: The Emperor's Emissary" Vader is even tasked to hunt down Clones that disobeyed. In it Palpatine says: Contagion brought about by fighting alongside the Jedi for so many years. Clone or otherwise, there is only so much a being can be programmed to do. Sooner or later even a lowly trooper will become the sum of his experiences. This was especially true amongst the Arc-Troopers and Clone commandos, who were less heavily indoctrinated so they can function more independently than regular clone troopers when cut off from the command structure. And Inhibitor-Chips can be removed from a clone's brain and he will suddenly stop obeying the execution of their Jedi generals while indoctrination since birth is way too difficult and almost impossible to remove from a clone's mind. Besides, some clones even feeled betrayed by the Jedi when they received Order 66. Even in "Battlefront 2" from 2005, one of them says in his journals: “I hesitated for a moment when I received Order 66 because the last thing I expected was a Jedi coup. Did I feel betrayed? You bet I did. I thought of all my men who died under Ki-Adi-Mundi’s command, and if I’d known then that he and his buddies were gearing up to do the Separatists’ work for them and overthrow the government, I’d have shot him as a traitor a lot earlier. He betrayed the trust of every one of us.”

Thank you, I Hate how many people forget they were weapons not people. Episode 2 even says they will not disobey any order and will follow them without question

@@robertogurrola7465 yes. So many people sleep on such important lines.

Just like Space Marines during Horus Heresy. Some did stay loyal though despite their genetic coding telling them to obey their traitor fathers

That’s the thing tough. In legends you have a bunch of troopers who did blink twice, or didn’t execute order 66 at all. You have crazy stories like how a trooper (commando) married the Jedi in command of his squad

@@peacefulfren8879 that is very true, I feel like we need to hold a debate over this matter 😂

ACTUALLY some of them did, like rex he didnt killed Ahsoka he was afraid of it.

@@animasyonYT he still shot, even through you can see in his face he was very confused at why his brain was doing this to him, soooo...🤷🏼‍♀️

@@MercyPeterson he didn't shot he was afraid of it. the other clone did it and asked "sir are you alright?" Edit 1:Yes, Rex shoots but he didn't want to do it. This is my opinion, he opposes the chip for a while because he has been serving Ahsoka for years.

It fit's the narrative and the Irony that in the end with a simple phrase they became the very thing they were fighting its more tragic when. You realise that Rex kinda hinted at ye knew what he was doing but he was powerless to stop it.

To me, the Canon explanation conflicts with what the narrating Clone Trooper said during the main campaign in the original PS2 era Star Wars Battlefront II game. In saying that, do you see the George Lucas Era games to be canon, or fan fics?

how is being mind-controlled more tragic than being decieved and murdering someone over a lie?!?

@@Cyro_2235 that assumes the close troopers are tragic characters, instead of being, you know, obedient soldiers that don't question orders and just obey their superiors, even if it means firing repeatedly on someone they respect while they lay on the ground

@@THAT1ZELDAFAN they fired on Aayla repeatedly to end her off quickly, because they felt like she deserved a quick death. that was good old legends stuff...

"Rise of the Empire"

agreed, operation knightfall was carried out in secrecy and the jedi didn't suspect the betrayal until it was too late

it's a good thing we were wearing helmets, cause no one could bear to look the Jedi in the eyes...

they wont, if i remember in canon the ARC is just a rank, unlike before where they were the 100 first clones

I don't. They'd butcher Skirata's boys. Bad Batch already is "we have Null/RC att home"...

@eliphas_vlka not true. You’re thinking of the Alpha-class and Null-Class ARCs, like Fordo and Alpha-17. They are the first ARCs, not the first clones.

The part about tup actually makes heaps of sense

I agree. A combination of both would have been best. The clones knowing about order 66 but not the inhibitor chips. It makes sense that Palpatine would have had a fail-safe just incase some clone decided not to obey the order. Imo It makes it more tragic as well with the clone thinking they would have a choice to follow the order or not only to realize it was never a choice in the first place. All the while being force to watch themselves kill their friends and innocents.

Yes I feel like with a lot of Dave's writing it's a bit too on the nose. He had to put the chips into the story because we wrote the clones in the show in a much more light hearted and personal manner.

When wreckers chip was reactivated he immediately went into kill mode with no remorse. "good soliders follow orders" is nothing but what the chip is repeating into their brain.

Oh yes. Definitely. In Legends/the EU, the clones had free will, because they weren't brainwashed but indoctrinated (take the people of North Korea as a real life example, they have free will seeing they aren't mind controlled but they are thought to obey and don't know how not to). From birth, the clones were trained to be one cohesive unit and fully dependent on a command structure. So if a higher ranking officer gave them an order, they followed it. But they were able to think negatively of the order but they were so indoctrinated that they just followed orders due to them not realizing they had the choice to disobey. This is why Palpatine actually made the Jedi generals during the Clone Wars, because simply said the Jedi were arrogant and were terrible at leading armies. The bad choices of many Jedi to lead to a large number of pointless casualties. And mistakes aside the Jedi were more then willing to sacrifice clone lives seeing they were considered less seeing they were not part of the natural order of the force. Because of these character flaws and lack of military experience the clones started to resent them and were more eager to execute their orders (and the jedi). in "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader - Part II: The Emperor's Emissary" Vader is even tasked to hunt down Clones that disobeyed. In it Palpatine says: Contagion brought about by fighting alongside the Jedi for so many years. Clone or otherwise, there is only so much a being can be programmed to do. Sooner or later even a lowly trooper will become the sum of his experiences. This was especially true amongst the Arc-Troopers and Clone commandos, who were less heavily indoctrinated so they can function more independently than regular clone troopers when cut off from the command structure. The regular clones were also genetically modified to be more obedient and less independent than Jango Fett. An inhibitor-chip can be removed from a clone's brain and he will suddenly disobey Order 66 but indoctrination since birth is very difficult/challenging to overcome.

Yes. Even in Legends, neither the clones nor the Jedi (expect for a few like Obi-Wan) knew they were both tricked by the very same Person who forced them to go to war.

My thoughts as well. Legends clones aren't evil, like many people make them out to be.

@@Sergio-nb4hj yes. They are definitely not evil. I wanna explain how I think the clone troopers really work in the EU: The clone army fought alongside the Jedi for 3 years but in reality served Chancellor Palpatine. The clone army were still slaves, just not in the way TCW presented it. Palpatine manipulated them into thinking the Jedi really betrayed them and that's what makes him so much smarter in Legends than relying on some brain-chips like in Canon. He was relying on the kaminoans indoctrinating the clones good enough during their training on Kamino years before the beginning of the Clone Wars, which actually worked for the vast majority of them. In Legends/the EU, the clones had free will, because they weren't brainwashed but indoctrinated (take the people of North Korea as a real life example, they have free will seeing they aren't mind controlled but they are thought to obey and don't know how not to). They were also genetically modified to be more obedient and less independent than Jango Fett (as mentioned in AOTC). So it's in their genes to obey the chain in command above everything else, which is of course Chancellor Palpatine. They are still human beings, even without full independence. They are mentally unable escape their fate at the GAR and they basically don't know a life outside the army. From birth, the clones were trained to be one cohesive unit and fully dependent on a command structure. So if a higher ranking officer gave them an order, they followed it. But they were able to think negatively of the order but they were so indoctrinated that they just followed orders due to them not realizing they had the choice to disobey. This is why Palpatine actually made the Jedi generals during the Clone Wars, because simply said the Jedi were arrogant and were terrible at leading armies, since they have not been in any major conflicts such as war for at least 1000 years. The bad choices of many Jedi to lead to a large number of pointless casualties. And mistakes aside the Jedi were more then willing to sacrifice clone lives seeing they were considered less seeing they were not part of the natural order of the force. Because of these character flaws and lack of military experience the clones started to resent them and were more eager to execute their orders (and the jedi). Creating bonds with the Jedi was also very challenging for the majority of the clones. The Jedi used a slave army of genetically identical men and became dependent on them since one Jedi cannot fight the separatist droid armies and militias alone. The clones were pushed their whole life to memorize the 150 contingency orders they were taught during their training on Kamino, including Order 66, besides their training to prepare for the battlefield and in combat. When Palpatine executes Order 66 in ROTS, he doesn't explain the details of the order. He gives it and expects every clone commander to know about it. in "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader - Part II: The Emperor's Emissary" Vader is even tasked to hunt down Clones that disobeyed. In it Palpatine says: Contagion brought about by fighting alongside the Jedi for so many years. Clone or otherwise, there is only so much a being can be programmed to do. Sooner or later even a lowly trooper will become the sum of his experiences. This was especially true amongst the Arc-Troopers and Clone commandos, who were less heavily indoctrinated so they can function more independently than regular clone troopers when cut off from the command structure. They were bred with more independent genes and had a more intensive training for their roles during the Clone Wars. As specialists they needed it. And with that level of independence, they actually had the ability/were mentally able to disobey Order 66. Back to the regular clones: An inhibitor-chip from TCW/Canon can be removed from a clone's brain and he will suddenly disobey Order 66 but indoctrination (and also genetic modification) since birth is very difficult/challenging to overcome.

I like to imagine the chip only kicks in when it needs to. Lots of clones would've actively hated their Jedi generals, or just put duty before feelings like you said, but the chip was there as a backup. And as we saw with Rex and the Bad Batch, some clones will be "defective". I can absolutely see Palpatine having a contingency for that. The real tragedy in my mind is thinking about how many clones executed the order without the chip ever activating at all.

Yah but your missing the point legends makes you feel good because theirs a chance of defection or disobeying orders. With canon theirs no chance of that we even see the 332nd do their best to kill Ahsoka ahile still wearing the helmets painted in refrence to Asoka's facial markings. Its the ultimate way they can show their trust and loyalty to her even though shes not even apart of the military or Jedi order anymore. Yet they are turned into the same mindless doids they were just fighting, following orders. In an instant whiping away three years of humanizing the clones. Cannon perfectly goes with the theme if the prequels and thats tragedy. We see the tragedy of Anakin, someone would could have been the best of the Jedi only to fall; we see this with the clones. Starting out basically organic droids, grow learn, become individuals, form connections; only to be whiped away in a second for one mans greed to be used as the disposable pawns they always were ven though we were tricked into thinking they were more. Thus we get the tragedy of the clones; in my opinion its a better story because it hurts more snd is more in line with the theme of the prequels than the legends version.

I don’t think you know the definition of character development, the clones went from guys willing to go behind the Jedi to guys willing to go behind the Jedi, that is a stagnant character arc with no development at all. It would have only been development for those who disobeyed but even then that’s barely development.

The chips were never needed in Legends. In Legends/the EU, the clones had free will, because they weren't brainwashed but indoctrinated (take the people of North Korea as a real life example, they have free will seeing they aren't mind controlled but they are thought to obey and don't know how not to). From birth, the clones were trained to be one cohesive unit and fully dependent on a command structure. So if a higher ranking officer gave them an order, they followed it. But they were able to think negatively of the order but they were so indoctrinated that they just followed orders due to them not realizing they had the choice to disobey. This is why Palpatine actually made the Jedi generals during the Clone Wars, because simply said the Jedi were arrogant and were terrible at leading armies. The bad choices of many Jedi to lead to a large number of pointless casualties. And mistakes aside the Jedi were more then willing to sacrifice clone lives seeing they were considered less seeing they were not part of the natural order of the force. Because of these character flaws and lack of military experience the clones started to resent them and were more eager to execute their orders (and the jedi). in "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader - Part II: The Emperor's Emissary" Vader is even tasked to hunt down Clones that disobeyed. In it Palpatine says: Contagion brought about by fighting alongside the Jedi for so many years. Clone or otherwise, there is only so much a being can be programmed to do. Sooner or later even a lowly trooper will become the sum of his experiences. This was especially true amongst the Arc-Troopers and Clone commandos, who were less heavily indoctrinated so they can function more independently than regular clone troopers when cut off from the command structure. The regular clones were also genetically modified to be more obedient and less independent than Jango Fett. Their limited independence made them actually follow Order 66 without relying on those inhibitor-chips in the 1st place. An inhibitor-chip can be removed from a clone's brain and he will suddenly disobey Order 66 but indoctrination since birth is very difficult/challenging to overcome.

​@@johnusas2870defecting clones would've probably been shot down Let's also not forget they were trained from birth to do everything they do

Yah but your missing the point legends makes you feel good because theirs a chance of defection or disobeying orders. With canon theirs no chance of that we even see the 332nd do their best to kill Ahsoka ahile still wearing the helmets painted in refrence to Asoka's facial markings. Its the ultimate way they can show their trust and loyalty to her even though shes not even apart of the military or Jedi order anymore. Yet they are turned into the same mindless doids they were just fighting, following orders. In an instant whiping away three years of humanizing the clones. Cannon perfectly goes with the theme if the prequels and thats tragedy. We see the tragedy of Anakin, someone would could have been the best of the Jedi only to fall; we see this with the clones. Starting out basically organic droids, grow learn, become individuals, form connections; only to be whiped away in a second for one mans greed to be used as the disposable pawns they always were ven though we were tricked into thinking they were more. Thus we get the tragedy of the clones; in my opinion its a better story because it hurts more snd is more in line with the theme of the prequels than the legends version.

@@johnusas2870, sure but like… the mind control chips were a huge success, and their absence going forward (why not put them in stormtroopers for empire or first order? Why do Hutts and other slavers not use them?) seems like a glaring strategic error and plot hole

@@Mordacitas7 thats because clones are "clones", they come from a lab, of course the kaminoan have the technology to make that happen

Exactly

How are you going to implant chips into regular imperial recruits and keep it a secret from the galaxy?, because nobody is joining the empire if they are getting microchipped, please explain. The chips being implanted in clones makes sense since it happened at birth. It's just not a plot hole....unlike Disney and the ftl jump having to be desperately fixed by fans as to why it worked. ​@@Mordacitas7

I like to imagine the chip only kicks in when it needs to. Lots of clones would've actively hated their Jedi generals, or just put duty before feelings like you said, but the chip was there as a backup. And as we saw with Rex and the Bad Batch, some clones will be "defective". And I can absolutely see Palpatine having a contingency for that. The real tragedy in my mind is thinking about how many clones executed the order without the chip ever activating at all.

Yah but your missing the point legends makes you feel good because theirs a chance of defection or disobeying orders. With canon theirs no chance of that we even see the 332nd do their best to kill Ahsoka ahile still wearing the helmets painted in refrence to Asoka's facial markings. Its the ultimate way they can show their trust and loyalty to her even though shes not even apart of the military or Jedi order anymore. Yet they are turned into the same mindless doids they were just fighting, following orders. In an instant whiping away three years of humanizing the clones. Cannon perfectly goes with the theme if the prequels and thats tragedy. We see the tragedy of Anakin, someone would could have been the best of the Jedi only to fall; we see this with the clones. Starting out basically organic droids, grow learn, become individuals, form connections; only to be whiped away in a second for one mans greed to be used as the disposable pawns they always were ven though we were tricked into thinking they were more. Thus we get the tragedy of the clones; in my opinion its a better story because it hurts more snd is more in line with the theme of the prequels than the legends version.

I think the chips offer a very interesting potential too tho like how Rex resisted but ultimately fell to his programming it could have been used better but saying it just simplified is an insult because it if anything brought some more interest if it wasn’t for the inhibitor any of the clones killing plo-koon or many others would be unbelievable

​​@@johnusas2870 that's why legends is better. The inhibitor chips completely dehumanize the clones during the order, but them having free will in legends introduces this morally grey area which has potential for so many amazing stories. In Legends there are clones who followed the order because they hated the jedi they served under, clones who followed the order because "good soldiers follow orders" despite the pain it caused them and there were clones that outright refused to follow the order and did everything they could to help the jedi. Even the clines that follow the order are still 100% human, the inhibitor chip completely takes away their humanity, which completely undoes all the efforts put into humanizing the clones, which could be straight up seen as a middle finger to the writers that even bothered trying to make them seem human in the first place. There is so much more potential for stories without the inhibitor chip.

@@joshmaynard2657yeah thats the only way i find the chips working. Even then i still i hate the concept.

I expect in a Galactic Republic the clones just has to trust exactly what the order does even if it doesn't make sense because there may be a complex issue which cannot be explained to the clones at the time.

@@builderbrother3525”I was just following orders.”

Yah but your missing the point legends makes you feel good because theirs a chance of defection or disobeying orders. With canon theirs no chance of that we even see the 332nd do their best to kill Ahsoka ahile still wearing the helmets painted in refrence to Asoka's facial markings. Its the ultimate way they can show their trust and loyalty to her even though shes not even apart of the military or Jedi order anymore. Yet they are turned into the same mindless doids they were just fighting, following orders. In an instant whiping away three years of humanizing the clones. Cannon perfectly goes with the theme if the prequels and thats tragedy. We see the tragedy of Anakin, someone would could have been the best of the Jedi only to fall; we see this with the clones. Starting out basically organic droids, grow learn, become individuals, form connections; only to be whiped away in a second for one mans greed to be used as the disposable pawns they always were ven though we were tricked into thinking they were more. Thus we get the tragedy of the clones; in my opinion its a better story because it hurts more snd is more in line with the theme of the prequels than the legends version.

@@johnusas2870cap.

@@johnusas2870Blud be copying and pasted his reply in every comment. Like that’s gonna change people’s minds 💀

Yah but your missing the point legends makes you feel good because theirs a chance of defection or disobeying orders. With canon theirs no chance of that we even see the 332nd do their best to kill Ahsoka ahile still wearing the helmets painted in refrence to Asoka's facial markings. Its the ultimate way they can show their trust and loyalty to her even though shes not even apart of the military or Jedi order anymore. Yet they are turned into the same mindless doids they were just fighting, following orders. In an instant whiping away three years of humanizing the clones. Cannon perfectly goes with the theme if the prequels and thats tragedy. We see the tragedy of Anakin, someone would could have been the best of the Jedi only to fall; we see this with the clones. Starting out basically organic droids, grow learn, become individuals, form connections; only to be whiped away in a second for one mans greed to be used as the disposable pawns they always were ven though we were tricked into thinking they were more. Thus we get the tragedy of the clones; in my opinion its a better story because it hurts more snd is more in line with the theme of the prequels than the legends version.

In Legends/the EU, the clones had free will, because they weren't brainwashed but indoctrinated (take the people of North Korea as a real life example, they have free will seeing they aren't mind controlled but they are thought to obey and don't know how not to). From birth, the clones were trained to be one cohesive unit and fully dependent on a command structure. So if a higher ranking officer gave them an order, they followed it. But they were able to think negatively of the order but they were so indoctrinated that they just followed orders due to them not realizing they had the choice to disobey. This is why Palpatine actually made the Jedi generals during the Clone Wars, because simply said the Jedi were arrogant and were terrible at leading armies. The bad choices of many Jedi to lead to a large number of pointless casualties. And mistakes aside the Jedi were more then willing to sacrifice clone lives seeing they were considered less seeing they were not part of the natural order of the force. Because of these character flaws and lack of military experience the clones started to resent them and were more eager to execute their orders (and the jedi). in "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader - Part II: The Emperor's Emissary" Vader is even tasked to hunt down Clones that disobeyed. In it Palpatine says: Contagion brought about by fighting alongside the Jedi for so many years. Clone or otherwise, there is only so much a being can be programmed to do. Sooner or later even a lowly trooper will become the sum of his experiences. This was especially true amongst the Arc-Troopers and Clone commandos, who were less heavily indoctrinated so they can function more independently than regular clone troopers when cut off from the command structure. The regular clones were also genetically modified to be more obedient and less independent than Jango Fett. An inhibitor-chip can be removed from a clone's brain and he will suddenly disobey Order 66 but indoctrination since birth is very difficult/challenging to overcome.

@@johnusas2870 Good point! Completely agree

The ones who resisted the order probably had the chips removed, like Rex for example who had his extracted by ashoka

@@instantmemes647 how could they have had them removed though? Next to nobody else knew or would have had time to act on that knowledge and remove the chips of an entire clone legion. It just doesn’t make logical sense, unless you say the entire legion came from a single batch, never received reinforcements from other batches, and the entire batch’s inhibitor chips were broken. At most you could have single individual clones who refused because their chip was damaged.

hardly dehumanizing when shows like the bad batch and even rex at the end of clone wars show that they were fully aware of it but had no control, and have regrets about it afterwards

@@MattJames2211 yet they continued to serve the empire afterwards, again dehumanizing them. Who in their right mind would continue to serve a nation that used mind control chips on them if those mind control chips can be removed and are not always active?

​@@athatcher9367because that were unaware of the inhibitor chips, in clone wars the kaminoans explained that the chips were inplanted to make sure the clones followed every order. Some also state that every one was aware of all the orders including the Jedi, but that never gave it much thought. And as you can see in bad batch all information the clones got was that the war is over and they won, and they were cheering that it was now an empire

Yah but your missing the point legends makes you feel good because theirs a chance of defection or disobeying orders. With canon theirs no chance of that we even see the 332nd do their best to kill Ahsoka ahile still wearing the helmets painted in refrence to Asoka's facial markings. Its the ultimate way they can show their trust and loyalty to her even though shes not even apart of the military or Jedi order anymore. Yet they are turned into the same mindless doids they were just fighting, following orders. In an instant whiping away three years of humanizing the clones. Cannon perfectly goes with the theme if the prequels and thats tragedy. We see the tragedy of Anakin, someone would could have been the best of the Jedi only to fall; we see this with the clones. Starting out basically organic droids, grow learn, become individuals, form connections; only to be whiped away in a second for one mans greed to be used as the disposable pawns they always were ven though we were tricked into thinking they were more. Thus we get the tragedy of the clones; in my opinion its a better story because it hurts more snd is more in line with the theme of the prequels than the legends version.

Regardless of which one you prefer you got to admit canon just makes more sense in universe. Palpatine wouldn't let the succes of his ultimate move depend on things like the Clones' willingness to immediately follow the order. Aswell as the Jedi somehow not getting seriously suspicious about the fact there is an order specifically for Jedi genocide. Canon order 66 makes sense in that way because it will always work. No matter the time, place or relationship with the Jedi, the Clones will execute the order instantly with zero hesitation. And no one knows about it.

Despite the fact that the Inhibitor Chips plotline was during the George Lucas era. Please stop blaming Disney for everything you don't like about Star Wars.

@@pancakes8670 the last couple of years before the official handover started the transition into legends and canon. The transition moved from Lucas controlling it to other people since they all knew he would be handing it over.

Yah but your missing the point legends makes you feel good because theirs a chance of defection or disobeying orders. With canon theirs no chance of that we even see the 332nd do their best to kill Ahsoka ahile still wearing the helmets painted in refrence to Asoka's facial markings. Its the ultimate way they can show their trust and loyalty to her even though shes not even apart of the military or Jedi order anymore. Yet they are turned into the same mindless doids they were just fighting, following orders. In an instant whiping away three years of humanizing the clones. Cannon perfectly goes with the theme if the prequels and thats tragedy. We see the tragedy of Anakin, someone would could have been the best of the Jedi only to fall; we see this with the clones. Starting out basically organic droids, grow learn, become individuals, form connections; only to be whiped away in a second for one mans greed to be used as the disposable pawns they always were ven though we were tricked into thinking they were more. Thus we get the tragedy of the clones; in my opinion its a better story because it hurts more snd is more in line with the theme of the prequels than the legends version.

@@johnusas2870 sry, no. CANON makes you feel better because it tells you "dont worry! they are not actually evil, it's palpatines evil brain chip!" legends is a FAR more brutal image of the bitter reality. making the clones victims of a lie instead of comic book villain brain control! or would you think Anakins fall would have been darker if he was under a dark force spell instead of willingly going into the dark?? someone controlled can be set free. someone who willingly goes the wrong path is forever lost!

@Cyro_2235 that's your interpretation, which I don't agree with. But to name a point, it's not because it makes me "feel better" that the clones aren't being evil; if you read my post you would have recognized the tragedy of how the clones were originally organic robots, practically speaking. We see them humanized and become self aware individuals, only to have that stripped from them. In my opinion that's a better storyline for thr clones as well as following along the lines of tragedy from the prequel era.

​@johnusas2870 the clones in Legends aren't evil. They are still slaves. Just not in the way TCW portrayed it. They are still human beings with pain and thoughts. It's just that they have limited independence and they don't know a life outside the army and are mentally unable to escape the chain of command and they don't know any better. They are genetically modified and trained to be totally obedient to the Republic, which is of course Palpatine and to suppress their personal feelings. And in the EU, most clones and Jedi were just professional acquaintances during the Clone Wars and those who managed to disobey Order 66 are either very strong-willed or just bred with special/more independent genes like Arc-troopers and Clone Commandos, who of course have more freedom for independent thinking than regular clone troopers. That makes it more believable why the clones in Legends turned on their Jedi generals without the existence of those inhibitor-chips, because the clones were never truly on their side. The entire GAR served the chancellor. The Jedi only used them to fight the separatist droid armies and militias. They were tricked into leading them in battles and paid with their lives.

@@dennis.edich1998 its pretty simple: your entire life consists of training, fighting, and following orders. you dont know anything else. no independence, no choice, no own opinions. 3 years of fighting along someone might spark feelings for them eventually, but when youre ordered to kill them... what would you do?! refuse, kill your brothers instead and be on the run for the rest of your life?! Oo being totally lost without any place to go? because you SOMEHOW managed to figure out what morality is?! Oo no, you would execute that order with a broken heart and live with it. you wouldnt betray your brothers which are way closer to you than the Jedi General. You wouldnt give up your entire life.

You do realise that happened in both legends and canon right?

In canon, they were tossed aside as well. Obi Wan encounters a homeless clone in the Obi Wan show. In the last season of the Clone Wars, Captain Rex cries while he attempts to fight the mind control, and he fails to fight it back, shooting at Ashoka while fully conscious. It's a waking nightmare. The canon version is much more tragic and horrifying in my personal opinion. It also makes Palpatine so much more disgusting and evil... allowing bonds like that to form, only to sever them for his own personal agenda.

​​@@Sergio-nb4hjMore tragically, in my opinion, it would be if without the same Chips, some clones would start killing their particularly loyal Jedi brethren. For example, Rex and the 335 who wasloyal to Ahsoka would refuse the order and a fratricidal massacre would begin with 501 in which the clones from 335 would give Rex and Ahsoka time to escape.

Well orginal cannon the clones only began to get phased out after 7 years of the empire, (and still served after that) which is way longer than the actual clone wars. This new thing were clones are being thrown away not even a year into the empire is 100% filoni and Disney, not George Lucas

@@drg617 Hey, I agree that would be good too, but I feel like one thing it lacks is the impact of TCW effectively turning the clones into droids once the chip is activated -- that tragedy of becoming something you tried absolutely everything to set yourself apart from. They wanted to be human and they had that option stripped away from them, no matter how many human names they gave themselves -- no matter how much effort they put into distinguishing their armor, hair, skin (tattoos) -- they meant nothing to their creators. It mirrors a wider theme in the story of the fall of the republic, meshing well with the story of Grievous for example, whose existence as a literal droid with no independence was a mockery of his former self. This was all intentional, because Dooku and the forces behind the CIS despised and loathed his independence, love, passion, and self-determination. Grievous was intended to mirror Anakin of course, but in a literal way. In a symbolic way (fitting to how Grievous' home culture uses metaphor) he is an excellent foreshadowing of the fate of the clones, many of whom died at the hands of the general's army. It is such a good way to represent evil, in my opinion. And in-universe it would also surely contribute to the empowerment of the dark side Sidious and Anakin were absolutely overcome with by the end of RotS. It's so much suffering, and only fitting for Palpatine, seeing as he is intended to be the most powerful sith of all time I think a story about moral conflict surrounding a controversial person in power's orders definitely has a place in Star Wars too, but surely it would make more sense for the imperial era? Canon has already established there is a large degree of propaganda fueling the empire's recruitment of stormtroopers, and being normal people, it makes sense to tell a story about them and the ones who might end up disobeying

Yah but your missing the point legends makes you feel good because theirs a chance of defection or disobeying orders. With canon theirs no chance of that we even see the 332nd do their best to kill Ahsoka ahile still wearing the helmets painted in refrence to Asoka's facial markings. Its the ultimate way they can show their trust and loyalty to her even though shes not even apart of the military or Jedi order anymore. Yet they are turned into the same mindless doids they were just fighting, following orders. In an instant whiping away three years of humanizing the clones. Cannon perfectly goes with the theme if the prequels and thats tragedy. We see the tragedy of Anakin, someone would could have been the best of the Jedi only to fall; we see this with the clones. Starting out basically organic droids, grow learn, become individuals, form connections; only to be whiped away in a second for one mans greed to be used as the disposable pawns they always were ven though we were tricked into thinking they were more. Thus we get the tragedy of the clones; in my opinion its a better story because it hurts more snd is more in line with the theme of the prequels than the legends version.

Not just know, but UNDERSTAND. That's the big thing

Ah so if they ever were told to kill the chancellor the chip wouldn’t compel them to that and they could all actually try to resist the urge to do it like any other well conditioned/taught order then right?

Fallow

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@@Fuego_gringo254 can I ask why your commenting words to me as if I misspelled them?

@@snow-in4zp because you did lmao

I agree because it's the only one that makes sense

What no Canon is way better

​@@danielbaur5765i have to disagree cannon makes more sense legends just feels better because you did have some that refused the order and defected. Cannon there wasnt a chance if that happening.

@@johnusas2870 It's much cheaper to just brainwash someone who you've already raised since birth than to install a microchip in his brain that can control his mind.

Canon does have some good stuff. But I would put the inhibitors as part of a larger cybernetic system integrated surgically during development. Kind of like an On and Off switch to control Combat Effectiveness, Active Regulation of Chemicals, and Obedience among other things.

Why not? He sure as hell gambled with many other parties to rise to power. Not to mention the presence of the chip was an additional risk in it of itself

Also Palpatine does not take pleasure through stripping free will. The man is a manipulator and part of manipulation is for people to willfully follow you.

Master planner yet lost to ewoks, yeah makes sense. He clearly got lucky so many times.

@@KaisTheFireWarrioryou’re acting like he was on Endor and ewoks blew up the Death Star

Yes. I agree. Killing their Jedi generals in Legends makes just as much sense as killing them in Canon and I'll explain why: Canon Clones have inhibitor-chips implanted in their brains while Legends Clones don't. In Canon, the inhibitor-chips exist as a failsafe to make sure every clone carries out Order 66 while in Legends they don't exist and where never invented at all. So both versions of the Grand Army of the Republic (Indoctrination and Inhibitor-Chips) adapt to their corresponding continuity. Canon clones and Legends clones have different paths in their lives. In both continuities, the Jedi Order starts out feeling uncomfortable with the blind obedience in the clones. The thing is, they take different approaches to this issue. In Legends, most Jedi keep a professional relationship with the clones, which does nothing to counter the dislike the clones have to the Jedi for being too peaceful. In this case, it makes sense for the clones to unhesitatingly follow Order 66 because in a way there is no choice other than the state. They are conscious of what they're doing, but with the exception of Arc-troopers and Clone Commandos, what reason do Legends clones have to betray the state they swore loyalty to for leaders they don't like? In Canon, the Jedi instead try to influence the clones. They teach them to be more human and more independent thinkers. They have close friendships with them. The Jedi and Clones become comrades. Now, would some Canon Clones still carry out Order 66 by their free will? Yes. Just look at Dogma and Crosshair before they realize their mistakes. However, wouldn't most Canon Clones hesitate to kill their Jedi leaders before following orders, thus alerting the Jedi? I mean, the clones were even reluctant to execute Pong Krell, an actual traitor who hated clones. Dogma had to do it and felt like he needed to justify himself right afterwards. Regular people commit terrible things all the time and on top of that, the clones are bred to be obedient. Hell, they didn't know about the betrayal of the Jedi in Legends, it was actually a legal contingency order. Still, Canon and Legends are just too different despite their similarities. I can just imagine what would happen if a Canon Clone ran into a Legends Clone and in my mind, they would not like each other. They started out the same, but turn out to be different where it counts. It is very clear that most Legends Clones would stick with the Empire because of how I just described them and I don't think I need to tell much more about that but I can also see a good reason why some Canon Clones would stick with the Galactic Empire as well after their chip deactivate themselves. They're designed to be soldiers, just soldiers. Even if they don't like the Empire, there’s no other organization for the clones to fight for. They wiped out the Jedi, the Separatists were their enemies and are now scattered, and there’s no Rebel Alliance (yet). There’s only the successor to the Republic, the Empire. Since the clones have no skills in the civilian sector and probably have a negative view on mercenaries, the Empire is all they have, even if they do not like it and even if it's trying to replace them. In a way, it's like falling to an addiction. And in both continuities, the clones were replaced by human recruits, the only difference is, Legends Clones served the Empire for a few more years after Palpatine decleared himself Emperor and the clones served along with regular humans. Canon Clones were replaced not long after Palpatine decleared himself Emperor. So in Legends, they became the 1st generation of stormtroopers while in Canon they were only known as the Clone Army and stormtroopers (human recruits) became their own thing from the very beginning.

Well most Jedi were more like Pong Krell then Anakin or Obi-wan. In fact Plo Koon was an anomaly as even Obi-wan was willing to let clones die to finish the mission. Most Jedi saw the clones as organic droids and didn’t treat them well, others were tolerant but very few were nice. Only reason most clones had names by the end of the war was because technically they would’ve been 12-13 so very rebellious and some would’ve fought alongside nicer jedi divisions. Not to mention once the jedi began supervising clone training they brought individuality with them

Following orders was bred into them. They'd be torn at most, obedient in many cases but with some having to choose a side.

Why wouldn't they? They spent the first 10 years of their lives in training where if they DIDN'T follow orders they'd be tortured or killed... or worse, their entire squad would die with them. Order 66 was only one of over a hundred orders that were each more terrible than the last. Do you think that some clones wouldn't relish the chance to kill those who sent hundreds of their brothers to their deaths simply because they didn't know basic tactics, those same generals never making any real connection with their troops? Yes, there were exceptions. Etain had a kid with one, Ayla Secura was rumoured to be in a relationship with one. Anakin formed close bonds with his troops and Obi-Wan skirted the line. But for every one of them, there were ones like legends Mundi who basically treated them like droids.

@@KMCA779 You agreed with me at the end. I'm meaning not every clone trooper would blindly follow the orders. We have seen cases where some refused orders from Pong Krell when he was sending them to be slaughtered. Ahsokas platoon, Rex and the crew would at least question the orders to kill them.

Yes they would follow order 66 blindly, just like every order they were given because they were genetically modifed to do so AND brainwashed...

​@D_To_The_J rank and file Clones did and would. They were specifically bred to be more docile and obedient to orders, something the films explicitly say. ARC, Commandos, and other types bred to be more independent would have more doubts about executing the order, and would have to choose between loyalty to the Republic and loyalty to the Jedi. The chip was never needed.

Canon made more sense than LEGENDS

I disagree cannon makes more sense after all the clones went though with their jedi genersls like Plo Kun, Obiwan, Ahsoka, Alya and so on it would be hard to imagine soldiers with thst close of a bond formed thiugh war turning on their Jedi. Sure not all jedi were good to their solders like Kiaudi Mundi but i have a hard time beliving Cody would shoot Kenobi or thr 501st would willingly march on the Jedi temple and kill padiwans and younglings. Yes i know 501st journal and all but as a soldier myself its harder to believe.

@@johnusas2870 In the original lore, Clones' genetic conditioning served the exact same purpose. The rank and file Clones physically couldn't disobey. It would never even cross their minds, as it was a lawfully given order. Filoni's overhumanization of the regular, unaugmented Clones created a problem he later had to solve with the chips. The more human, individualistic traits you see in Filoni's Clones used to be almost exclusive to ARC Troopers (Who were genetically altered. You couldn't just become an ARC Trooper if you weren't bred to be one) and Commandos, both of which were designed to be able to think far more freely due to their nature as special operators. One could argue they were more Mandalorian than Clone.

@@jaffarebellion292still to my knowledge, the original order is for the elimination of officers who have acted against the interests of the Republic, but to those Clone’s knowledge the most of the Jedi commanding them have only done what was necessary and commanded of them by the Jedi (if done amateurishly, ruthlessly, apathetically, or hesitantly). Only a select group of Jedi that say tried to apprehend a politician like the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic over religious differences defended in the Republic laws, should be held to the contingency or those who were onto the conspiracy with reasonable suspicion like the Grandmaster or others on the Council who weren’t too busy fighting for their lives to be able to be informed on the plan. The younglings, Padawans, and even ordinary Jedi Knights of the galaxy couldn’t by any measure of reason been suspected of knowing this plan, so their execution would be unlawful which means the Clones wouldn’t be able to carry it out.

@@jaffarebellion292YEP! The higher up the chain the more free thinking! Commanders were also like this even if to a lesser extent. I imagine in legends each rank and speciality (outside of those confirmed) had varying levels of independence in order to fulfill their role to maximum efficiency

No, it doesn't. Order 66 would have been very ineffective because many clones would have had hesitated and not executed their mission as proficiently as they did in the canon version.

Disney had zero involvement, the chips were most likely George's idea..

​@@TylertheCC1010fanno it was Daves. George had almost nothing to do with the show. And I dont think George wanted to retconn something that already was established. Dave likes to not care about other peoples work and shits on it

@@poopypigeon536George co-created Clone Wars. He hired Dave and mentored him throughout the show’s run. George viewed the show as his way of exploring more things than he had time for in the prequels. Many ideas, such as Maul’s return, we’re ordered directly from George himself. He and Dave had many talks about how the universe worked that Dave still follows to this day. Even George’s daughter directly wrote several episodes in the series at George’s request.

​@@poopypigeon536Why say things that aren't true

@@Spider-Man647 never said it was true. But George loved the EU and wasnt that much involved in making clonewars. He didnt really care about what dave did.

I respectfully disagree

I fully agree with canon on this one. Much more coherent.

You do realize that the inhibitor chips were created by George Lucas himself because he realized that having clones turn on the jedi out of nowhere was a pretty dumb idea right?

I mean, I didn’t till now, but I would still like you to - like me - argue for it instead of flat-out calling the opposite a dumb idea.

I don’t care how much training you have. You’re still gonna hesitate gunning down generals who served with you

​@@impulseelectrobrine1259ever heard of fragging?

@@barenbloke8019 that was done to generals the soldiers didn’t like the Jedi were decently liked by most of their clones

Yah but your missing the point legends makes you feel good because theirs a chance of defection or disobeying orders. With canon theirs no chance of that we even see the 332nd do their best to kill Ahsoka ahile still wearing the helmets painted in refrence to Asoka's facial markings. Its the ultimate way they can show their trust and loyalty to her even though shes not even apart of the military or Jedi order anymore. Yet they are turned into the same mindless doids they were just fighting, following orders. In an instant whiping away three years of humanizing the clones. Cannon perfectly goes with the theme if the prequels and thats tragedy. We see the tragedy of Anakin, someone would could have been the best of the Jedi only to fall; we see this with the clones. Starting out basically organic droids, grow learn, become individuals, form connections; only to be whiped away in a second for one mans greed to be used as the disposable pawns they always were ven though we were tricked into thinking they were more. Thus we get the tragedy of the clones; in my opinion its a better story because it hurts more snd is more in line with the theme of the prequels than the legends version.

Who says every clone cared for them?

@@kingorange7739 True, a lot of clones hated the jedi because of how bad they were as tacticians and how many clone death this caused, plus I remember something about how some Jedi saw the clones as unnatural living beings that go against the way of the force or the nature.

@@germony5956 Indeed. That was a very large point of contention that displayed how clone and Jedi relationships were rocky within Legends. Clones in Legends were quite literally operating as proto stormtroopers and held agreement to Imperial ideals long before the rest of the galaxy did. Meanwhile the Jedi still wanted to protect the Republic as was.

I personally like combining both. Legends is canon until Disney confirms or contradicts it. So for me they had chips but were also taught the orders but didn’t think of them much because their were so many and the jedi also knew of the order but it was also worded to sound like a measure for a jedi like Pong Krell which it would’ve been perfect for. And the order before it was literally arresting the chancellor so

In Legends there still were clones who disobeyed order, likemany Commando and ARCs, while "canon" chips is just a plot device that works just as writer wants.

​@@mrzirak792Yah but your missing the point legends makes you feel good because theirs a chance of defection or disobeying orders. With canon theirs no chance of that we even see the 332nd do their best to kill Ahsoka ahile still wearing the helmets painted in refrence to Asoka's facial markings. Its the ultimate way they can show their trust and loyalty to her even though shes not even apart of the military or Jedi order anymore. Yet they are turned into the same mindless doids they were just fighting, following orders. In an instant whiping away three years of humanizing the clones. Cannon perfectly goes with the theme if the prequels and thats tragedy. We see the tragedy of Anakin, someone would could have been the best of the Jedi only to fall; we see this with the clones. Starting out basically organic droids, grow learn, become individuals, form connections; only to be whiped away in a second for one mans greed to be used as the disposable pawns they always were ven though we were tricked into thinking they were more. Thus we get the tragedy of the clones; in my opinion its a better story because it hurts more snd is more in line with the theme of the prequels than the legends version.

Why would you feel bad for liking the clone regardless if they chose to follow the order? Not all characters are going to be Boyscouts or Cookie Cutter good guys.

That's basically it. In both canons the original 6 films are fully canon, but the extended universe stuff is where it diverges. Legends is the story the books, comics, games, etc published pre-disney, whereas the official canon is all the new material

@cyberbrunk so is legends practically the fictional version of an already fictional universe?

@@jxcquizzz I look at it more like how you get similar but different stories from like, the comics versus the TV show for any given story. Different storylines that sometimes have completely different characters and plots, but sometimes are pretty faithful reinterpretations of the original

Yes. Legends refers to the Expanded Universe over which Lucas exercised veto authority. If a writer in a game, show, comic, book, etc. wanted to add something he believed didn't mesh with his vision for star wars, he would tell them to remove or change it.

Yes. I totally agree. 100% The Jedi use a slave army of genetically identical men with only limited independence, but being extremely good in their roles as soldiers, to fight the separatists during the Clone Wars and relied on them over time. They feel uncomfortable with the blind obedience in the clones but become dependent on them since the Jedi cannot fight the separatist droid armies and militias alone. I think in the EU, clones did not form bonds with the Jedi so easily, the majority at least. So most Jedi and their clone legions only keep a professional relationship during the course of the Clone Wars, which does nothing to counter the dislike the clones have to the Jedi and that's why the unhesitatingly follow Order 66 because there is no other choice for them than the state. I mean the clones don't betray the Republic they swore loyalty to for leaders they do not like that much. Only few clones and Jedi were really close to each other, such as Aayla Secura and Commander Bly, so in this case, some clones of a specific legion either tried to save their Jedi general during Order 66 or killed them as quickly and painlessly as possible, such as Bly and the 327th Star Corps did with Aayla, as they didn't want her to suffer. Even if the clones were more like organic droids and more receptive to orders, some of them still expressed some sort of individuality as exemplified by their penchant for using nicknames among their brothers instead of their standard alpha numeric designations as well as later in the Clone Wars sporting different hairstyles and even tattoos. These type of clones were often viewed as oddities. The clone army fought alongside the Jedi for 3 years but in reality served Chancellor Palpatine. By orchestrating the Clone Wars and making public think the Jedi were the true villains of the Clone Wars who brought chaos to the galaxy, trying to overthrow the government and having just survived a Jedi ambush in his office against 4 Jedi masters, he tricked everyone, especially the Clone army into thinking the Jedi really betrayed them and that's what makes him so much smarter in Legends than relying on some brain-chips like in TCW. He manipulated both parties, the Jedi and the clone army and when Order 66 was issued, both the clones and the surviving Jedi each felt betrayed by each other and none of them (really) realized that they were actually manipulated by the same guy. And because of the kind of relationship the Jedi and their clones had, the clones don't become as much humanized as in TCW and (naturally) remain much more droid like and unquestionably receptive to Palpatine's orders. In the EU, the clones had free will, because they weren't brainwashed and mind-controlled but indoctrinated (take the people of North Korea as a real life example, they have free will seeing they aren't mind controlled but they are thought to obey and don't know how not to). They were also genetically modified to be more obedient and less independent than Jango Fett (as mentioned in AOTC). So it's in their genes to obey the chain in command above everything else, which is of course Chancellor Palpatine. From birth, the clones were trained to be one cohesive unit and fully dependent on a command structure. So if a higher ranking officer gave them an order, they followed it. But they were able to think negatively of the order but they were so indoctrinated that they just followed orders due to them not realizing they had the choice to disobey. This is why Palpatine actually made the Jedi generals during the Clone Wars, because simply said the Jedi were arrogant and were terrible at leading armies. The bad choices of many Jedi led to a large number of pointless casualties. And mistakes aside the Jedi were more then willing to sacrifice clone lives seeing they were considered less seeing they were not part of the natural order of the force. Because of these character flaws and lack of military experience the clones started to resent them and were more eager to execute their orders (and the jedi). They were pushed their whole life to memorize the 150 contingency orders they were taught during their training on Kamino, including Order 66, besides their training to prepare for the battlefield and in combat. When Palpatine issues Order 66, he doesn't explain the details of the order. He gives it and expects every clone commander to know about it (as mentioned in the video). in "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader - Part II: The Emperor's Emissary" Vader is even tasked to hunt down Clones that disobeyed. In it Palpatine says: "Contagion brought about by fighting alongside the Jedi for so many years. Clone or otherwise, there is only so much a being can be programmed to do. Sooner or later even a lowly trooper will become the sum of his experiences". This was especially true amongst the Arc-Troopers and Clone commandos, who were less heavily indoctrinated so they can function more independently than regular clone troopers when cut off from the command structure. They were also bred with more independent genes and had a more intensive training for their roles during the Clone Wars, which allowed do act more as individuals. Back to the regular clones: An inhibitor-chip from TCW can be removed from a clone's brain and he will suddenly disobey Order 66 but in the EU, indoctrination (and also genetic modification) since birth is very difficult/challenging to overcome.

In the original Rex just didn't do it.🤷

​@@chrisnorris3641yah and in the original it wasn't a compelling story that fit the narrative of the prequels, add on Rex didn't even exist in legends he was based off of Alpha 17 if i remember right

Plo's Bros didnt killed him, clone who shot his fighter down was from different clone division.

Someone who understands, still in myself but I enjoy people saysing legens because the chips were just a plot device/cop out. When even jf they were literally indoctrinated from brith the connects they made with their generals would makes them really question the order much more than actually happened in legends. And like you said just because i get an order from General Milley or Biden doesn't mean im gonna kill my LT or CO, especially if i have a connection like some of the clone had with their jedi.

I mean the leader of the enemy faction is a former Jedi, several Jedi already went rogue throughout the years, and the Jedi also also in constant interactions with military and political officials when they also have mind control powers. I think at face value the Order makes sense to have as a failsafe policy even if it's never expected to be used.

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I get your point

It was one order amongst the 150 Contingency Orders for the Grand Army of the Republic