In the boy scouts they taught us about the risks of tree root fires when picking a spot for camp fires. That was back in the stone ages when the boy scouts actually taught you things.
I work at a state park and few years back few adults kids camped at are park boyscouts. Well they were packing up leaving I'm doing my daily jobs then a person like hey is something on fire I grabbed the hose put it out they dumped hot coals on dry brush.
throw in a carbon dioxide bomb or did they invent that already? if they close out the holes by pouring cement or clay to deplete the oxygen would that work??
@@donkmeister as said above there's a chance of explosion if water is thrown in, because the space is enclosed and the internal temp. in there is too hot already, like an oven.. the purpose i suggested with concrete is to cut off the oxygen by plugging holes which feed the fire with air.. much like with what the russians did when they poured liquid cement on chernobyl to prevent radioactive materials escaping to the atmosphere.. depleting the fire with oxygen is a much better solution than fighting it with water, especially oil fires and underground fires.. the russians have stopped an oil fire with an underground detonation of a nuclear bomb.. watch this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3kwQfjGnVpw.html
It reminds me of the coal fires that burned under whole towns for years in Pennsylvania. The fires would follow the seams of coal. Whole towns were abandoned.
@@StoicObserverS 20 years is pretty short for underground coal fires. Underground coal fires sometimes burn for centuries or millennia (the burning mountain in Australia comes to mind. It is estimated to have been burning for around 6000 years)
This is so scary, especially for those who are returning to check on property and don't know about this. Thank you for making this video, this needs to be viewed by everyone so people won't get injured or die as a result of these hidden fires.
Cherrie Mckinstry I doubt. Although there are 2 major things to consider. First off. California is on a broken slice of tectonic plate which is under growing pressure. Every once a 100 years or so there’s a major earthquake. Shaking the ground changing the entire landscape. Causing many casualties. It’s due. Last time it happened over a 100 years. So buckle up. Expect a 7-8 Gs in California. The other thing. The more global concern I have. That since 200 years we are taking out the devils black oil from the ground for $. And what we took out already among many other things from under ground is most probably start to be missing from there. Think of pressure. Lava under the crust of Earth. Everywhere. So. What else? This underground fire is very concerning. I’m sure that back then white people did not take it in consideration where did the previous nations settled down here and which areas they avoided. I’m sure that the ancient knowledge we might have mentions this and this seems to be a known phenomena. But come on. Every year? Every year historic record size fires? How all this burning now didn’t burn to ashes last year under the ground? How can so much leaves accumulate under your ground? That does not seem normal. That doesn’t sound natural to me even if we have records of such.
Volunteer fire fighters risking their life’s wile in Congress rich people living out of people tax getting pay for going to vacations every DAM month 🤢 this are the people who people tax must go to
Sue W I do donate that’s why I disgusted but don’t worry about me maybe ask your self if you are doing it to ? And not just fire fighter but other matter I do community service in my church I help out the ones in need but I bet you don’t know about that I should not be saying this stuff but you probably have never help no one I hope you do because talking is very easy and I do make sense but you probably don’t get it cause your blind cants se clearly well that’s not my problem than I am sorry about you 👍🏻
@@Bryan-hf7ll i know what your saying my friend... all the rich people getting even richer off of our taxes and not really helping people , well its true and your right , our tax money should be going to these people and so many others... my friend dont worry or let others get to you ... just keep helping others and living as an example for others... be blessed my friend in Jesus's mighty name
@Punk Shark Difference in how one becomes rich. While Those in the political field should be compensated, they should be prohibited from other funds unless it's prior to them obtaining the position, i.e like businesses. People who own business do deserve a greater part of the wealth. Not only do they provide pay for others but they also possess a massive risk if the business fails. Taxes are specifically crafted to keep the wealthy in the country. Other nations would gladly take them and benefit from such.
@@danielp1629 You don't have to repent of your sins to be saved: only believe on Jesus. Acts 16:30-31: What must I do to be saved? And they said, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved...
@BC Bob If he does swoop down, maybe he can knock some compassion into you, or just plain knock you out. Trolling the comments, making unnecessary and stupid replies only makes you look uncaring and foolish.
@@whichkatami God gave mankind free will. Their choice when their body dies. Free will means able to choose God & His Son, good vs. evil day to day, hour by hour.
SNOW CREEK the liberals are clearing the land for their dream empire, but they can't get the wildlife back! They're destroying nature which was finely tuned! And in so doing are destroying themselves even though they haven't figured that out yet. Their new world order won't work for one very important reason: They are leaving God out of the mix!
@@JM-kp1bo Apparently it's like a meme where you have to eat Rigatoni pasta on that day? Lol, idk it's some kind of tik tok thing. (I don't know if that's what they ment, I just searched up May 24, 2021).
This is a known risk among wild land firefighters. Fire burns in the Duff, unbeknownst to the casual onlooker. ( duff is the forest floor litter: needles leaves, old dead vegetation). Holds heat for weeks / months and creeps undetected). It’s not a joke. Fires aren’t out until they are are dead out. Cold trailing is what it’s called. Cold to the touch, with your bare hands running through the dirt , feeling for hot spots. Turning over the duff to the dirt( many feet deep). That is the slow, tedious , non- glamorous work of mop up. Thank you guys, for showing what still needs to happen still.... with all the millions of acres of forest land. Wow, we’re not out of the woods yet! ( pun intended.)
Loner Lovebytes you should take a step back from your computer and think logically, it is extremely easy to fall down these rabbit holes (it’s happened to me a few times)
@John Brown Yes, it is a sad situation. If people weren't praying for God's mercy for these people, then it would all be consumed, like Sodom and Gomorrah was. Only if people followed 2 Chronicles 2:14 14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, pray, seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land. People want to stay dead in their sin though. :(
@@Xarai im afraid not.. hell is real and its only a matter of time before every knee bows a d every mouth confess that Jesus Christ is God but its going to be too late for most ... this world has tricked so many people but the truth is everyone knows that Jesus is God including yourself but most people like your and even like myself love their sin and dont want to let it go but once you experience the Holy Spirit youll never be the same ...i just encourage you to turn to Jesus Christ before its to late and repent of your sins... be blessed in Jesus's mighty name
Really puts things in perspective when I get upset over something trivial & come home to watch this. All of the residents dealing with the Oregon fires have a special prayer coming from me every day. God bless..Many of us aren't there but are with you in our hearts and prayers
@@wethepeople8280 the fire starts in the tree and burns out the inside. The fire then consumes up and down, following the roots. It burns slowly probably due to some moisture but mostly from liw oxygen levels. Low airflow
@@wethepeople8280 most commonly its an old rotten tree. Hollow inside a stump. The wildfire heat starts the rotted wood within it and thus starts to work its way down into the subterranian roots. The way you find this type of fire is by looks for trace smoke seeping up from cracks in the earth and using heat detection tools. If you step on the edges it will feel spongy. If you step over the burning roots it will cave in and you will be on fire from the feet up to your hips or more
KELLI2L2 i didnt say it did. There is little air flow, (small amount) thus keeping the fire small and slow. Its very hot too. Little ventilation. Three things must be present for fire to exist. 1. Heat or spark 2. Oxygen 3. Fuel, wood paper etc
Lake Detroit is 30 mins from my home. Fire came within 2 miles. We lived in Oklahoma for 9 years before moving here. I rather deal with tornado season than to evacuate again with all the smoke. Etc. But do not miss Oklahoma.
Being Australian I know what it's like to go through this, I just hope that it doesn't get as bad as it did here in area wise, I want to say good luck to everyone suffering from the fires there try your best to stay safe.
AM-ER-RIC-A as AMERICA: SHE loves pure patriotism and not phony pretentious patriots purposely playing prejudicial party politics. Producing predatory profiteers = $$$ Plus+ pirating piranhas, and pathological police patrols, and politician psychopaths. Being positively purified and or permanently purged off our earthly planet, period. americas-vs-united-states.blogspot.com/
Are you talking the biblical hell that is just the land of the dead or the 14th century guy high on the fungi that pointed to how to create LSD that wrote the burning pits and punishments people think of as hell now? It is a fun fungi when you look into it as it infects Rye and has several odd effects on people from making them see things to making them act more like an animal.
This is real and I experienced it myself. Our hamlet Nordegg Alberta Canada took some lightning on July 01 2006. it burned a bit and they thought they put it out but it was underground!!! It came back two days later! Talk about scramble!! Very very dangerous!
NordeggSonya I did the forest Service for the Summer (parents divorced, had to get out of the house). Yea.....I learned A LOT about fire from that experience. When I got back home, my brother was burning a pile of slash in the back like we usually do. I smelled it and asked him about it, he replied..... “Yea, it’s fine, it’s mostly out”. I immediately grabbed by boots and that smoldering pile was a mud pit by the time I was thru with it!!! Yep. I gave my whole family a lecture after that!
That what we are trying to say to malaysian and singaporeans in regards to the fire in the sumatra island... But no.... They just keep complaining about the haze that the fire bring to their country....
@Scoobie What do riots happening in the cities have to do with fires burning in rural areas of the state? Dude you're just being hateful for no reason.
Wow! I have never seen that before. That’s scary, you could leave a place thinking the fire is out and it’s still burning underground. Firefighters are real heroes
@Scoobie burning slash and undergrowth is part of that process. How do you think it got done before humans? Please define "proper forest management" for me. I've only lived in the woods a few decades and I'd like to know how that is accomplished without use of burn piles. You have about 20k you wanna loan me on a chipper? But yeah, I really want to hear your version of proper forest management.
Chief Blacksheep hearing about Hell before didn’t make me believe it exists. I don’t believe in bearded baby moonwalking on the lake either throwing bucketless shrimp and that he came back 3 days after he died being born from a mother who never been f
@@JetSkiSuper7 yr logic might be moot at this time. the universe is being reset. this is the end of the elitist rule and a new earth will emerge. this is the part where every knee shall bow. if not now, soon. be patient,
Marta Lucas ... may have gone down into a volcano vault! The scientists are tabulating earthquakes all over CA, OR, WA, OK. Etc... more info on Earthquakes on uTube. Very interesting ... and no public news about it... don’t want people panicking!
Marta Lucas there has been fire burning in Colorado in a resort town, which I can’t remember the name of. Teddy Roosevelt stayed there. There is a large out door hot springs pool. This fire is in old mines just burning away. I hope they keep track of it!
Yeah I live in So Cal and we had the largest non complex fire in state history that started dec 4, 2017 and wasn’t completely put out until June 2018. It burned through los Padres National forest and it took a very long time to contain hot spots like those shown in your clip that are underground and just as likely to start new problems if not dealt with . So I other words the fire wasn’t completely contained until the beginning following years fire season. 😖
That's only because it's doesn't rain much in Los Padres NF and they don't log or clear brush in the back country and it hadn't burned in 20 years so the brush had really built up. In Oregon 9 months of the year it's sopping wet from rain, and they log and clear brush. In fact big storm headed there now, it'll all be out by the weekend.
@@Sugarsail1 I'm going to guess you don't live in Oregon. The whole State can't possibly be sopping wet 9 months of the year, some parts maybe 7 months.
I sadly learned about this when I was a young teen 40 years ago. We had a small contained bonfire in a friend's backyard. 3 days later they found that the muck underneath the ground was burning for several hundred feet, thankfully in the opposite direction of the house. There was no indication of it until you turned up the soil. It was just like smoldering hot oil.
Amazing, only time I saw this effect before, was when I was in an active volcano lava field in Hawaii. There were multiple spots where you could peer through black hardened lava cracks, and see orange-hot lava bubbling lower down. It was terrifying.
We are puny. there is a big God though that is bigger than these virus who can blow them right out let's call out to Jesus Christ for mercy and he can just put these fires out quickly. You know Jesus said that we don't need to throw up for ourselves treasures on Earth but in heaven. JesUSAves 🙏🏿♥️🇺🇸🕊️🌞🇺🇸
@Scoobie It was the Mayor and Governor, both Democrats who ORDERED the police to stand down. And if they don't get their way in November, they promise more of the same.
Sitting here alongside the northern tip of a 150k acre fire after 13 days evacuated with a phone filled with years of photos from the now burned out wilderness. Can't describe how lucky & grateful I feel to still have a home today. A lot of foxes, cougars, black bears and other local wildlife aren't so lucky. Their food supply has all but vanished, this will be a hard winter for so many. 😖
@@JoeyNiklas Yes, it's anthracite coal at that; burns hotter than ordinary coal. While this is great for heat output, it also means that anthracite will destroy parts of a (home heating) stove quicker than if you use normal coal, most especially small chips of anthracite. I knew someone who was given small anthracite pellets after a local industry closed down, and it burned through the grate inside his stove after a few months.
Thank you for bringing this to the attention of the public. Sorry to learn you lost your home and belongings. We lost our home in the 1970 Laguna fire in East San Diego County. God bless you in your recovery.
@Lamont Cranston INC. yea they made this guy be fall guy! He didnt start all these fires nice try for the left! I wouldnt believe any news they r all in it together! Most ppl the news deals w r actors and seen on the news like 2 & 3 different time in different states regarding different issues! So when I c things like this I know this guy was paid to look like he set forest ablaze and how he is apart of antifa!
@Loner Lovebytes how fucking stupid would you have to be to spend over a decade plus billions of dollars researching and developing energy wepons and lazers, only to use it to start wildfires? ANTIFA can just toss a cigarette or burning paper into some foliage and get the same result. You should really think more instead of just believing whatever some random people on the internet says.
Out here in the west it is very common to have a lightning strike start a root fire and with the low oxygen it can hold over for weeks before popping up.
24 years ago we had a huge fire here in Alaska. Lost our garage...house survived. A weel aftet main fire swept through a tree fell over and a huge tower of flames erupted in our front yard. Root system had been on fire ...smoldering. Help these guys any way you can
Wont last more than a couple months more at most. Rainy Season is soon upon up and will drench it all. At least in the Western parts.. Eastern areas might be fooked...
When roots burn away, even a light breeze can blow down a snag. Unless you have really good reason to be there, it’s best to stay away from burned areas.
It would be nice to get a full explanation of the exact cause of this. In other words - the day before the fires were set , after they are “out” and where in between a phenomenon like this occurs. Like what EXACTLY causes this? For instance do the chemical drops put the fires out on top - but help assist trapping the flames underneath?
It doesn't look natural because its trapped with almost no airflow. We're seeing a very efficient burn going on. Not enough oxygen to quickly burn out whatever is on fire, but not so little that a fire can only smolder.
This reminds me of the Centralia, Pennsylvania situation, to this day fires started in the coal mines there back in 1962 are still burning. That town is uninhabitable, i hope this don't turn into the same thing with Detroit, Oregon. Y'all stay safe out there and do all y'all can to prevent the fires from spreading further.
Thanks for posting this. It’s good to know. We’re having to watch these hot spots around and on our property, which is on the western edge of the Beachie Creek fires. Fire crews are here every day patrolling the still smoking forests above us. Looking forward to more rain!
🎤🎤“And for our late September lineup, we have Underground fires in the lower 48. These guys made a first appearance earlier this year under the name ‘zombie fires’ but since that didn’t ‘catch’ on, they’ve rebranded and are gearing up for a ‘hot’ come back.”🎤🎤
They may have cut alot of smaller trees down when they cleared for those houses..the old root ball underneath fuels a " dutch oven" type fire..the opening allows it to breathe.. there may also be large diameter dead roots that the fire follows..but it too needs 02 to breathe.. as u can see its on a slope and the " breathing hole" is exposed.
@Sadie J I'm astonished by the whole concept. Look at it !!! Underneath is a raging fire and on top just a small amount of smoke. Looks can be deceiving!!! It does look like lava but is not. But hey ,be aware Lava is next !!!⛰🏔🌋
@@cavedude253 correct this is far from normal as that jazz shouldn't be happen a fire that jumps about like a party and on glass that melts wow this time 20 yr ago this would never happen my friend listen take care of u and ur family much love
God bless you all and Jesus Christ loves you! Jesus Christ, The Son of God, who is God manifest in the flesh, loves you! He died on the cross for our sins, was buried, and rose again from the dead 3 days later, defeating death, so we could receive everlasting life. This is known as The Beautiful Gospel, which also means, "Good News." Repent and believe in The Gospel! Proverbs 28:13- He who covers his sins will not prosper, But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy. Mark 1:15- and (Jesus) saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in The Gospel.” Romans 10:9- because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. God bless you all again!
@@AvatarOfBhaal People putting a check in a box to say they are religious does not mean that they are religious neither does it mean they believe in The Lord Jesus Christ. Christ told us that many signs would precede His second coming including earthquakes, famines, pestilences, Christian persecutions- which are happening all over the world, false Christ’s, false prophets, etc. Christ actually promises us that the world is only going to get worse before He comes back to judge all creation and make it better for those who have been forgiven and trusted in Him. I can still thank God through all of this because He is My Lord, My God, who provides you and I with each breath we breathe, every moment of our days, the food on our table, the water we drink, and most importantly, the salvation of our souls if we repent and trust in Jesus to be saved and forgiven of our sins. God bless you and let me know if you ever have any questions about The Lord, His Word, and His World. Jesus Christ loves you! Repent and believe in The Gospel!
"They are hoping for donations" What the hell? Sure these fires would push the limits every country 's firefighting capabilities, but these men risk their lives in order to help. The Government needs to equip these men with everything they can, in the very least, and not let them wait on donations for such an important issue. The ground is literally on fire for Christ's sake!
sue bee I did smart aleck but then the newscaster said Detroit with out saying Oregon. If someone knows there is more than one city with the same name it’s helpful to clarify. I live in Georgia when we have many towns with named like that (Athens, Cairo, Rome etc) so we clarify to avoid confusion. Thanks!
This was a LOCAL newscast. They were talking to people that live in the area. You don't have to explain that to them. Live in Miami, FL. Just up the road from me we have a Hollywood here in FL. When they talk about Hollywood on our local newscast I know they mean ours. Not the one in CA.
@@paulrevere2928 - Also, you say you're a GA resident. I lived in the Atlanta area for 8 years. There's a Dallas, GA just west of ATL. When I first moved there I didn't know that. But once I did when they said Dallas on the news I knew they were talking about ours in GA.
@@JetSkiSuper7 The Most High God is real , Ojr Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is real and the Holy Spirit is real. Without The Most High we wouldnt exist . Because he created everything , including lucifer. So he is Also real. Dont be deceived. Because The greatest trick devil pulled on mankind is that he doesnt exist.
Rod Z The Most High God of Israel is real. We will all have to give an account for every word we speak. There is time to repent. This is just the beginning. Repent while there is still time. Prophecy is speaking
Rod Z The wicked were given time to enjoy the earth but their time is running out. The lake of fire is a real thing man! Dont harden your heart. Job 9:24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?
I can remember the fires in areas with a large accumulation of needles would often be burning in those needles without any indication above the ground.Some of these would be burning as deep as a foot or two down where there was no foot traffick to compress the collection of needles.
Yes and they missed the opportunity to extinguish it in the beginning but said it cost to much. So now the cost this many year later.. SMH - and "We the People" still have not demanded law changes so we the tax payer can sue them, fire them, keep them from getting a pension.........SMH.
Just when you think things couldn't get any worse... I'm so sorry for all you people battling all this....I can't imagine having to deal with something like this
A healthy growing tree can be fairly fire resistant. Many of them evolved in places with fire as a fact of life. A lot of the smaller plants rely on the root surviving. Many invasive plants are like gasoline to the fire.
@matineerocks The idiots from the Sierra Club demand that no human intervention in the forest is the only thing that can save the forests from man. The of main reasons we have more damaging forest fires now.
I have a problem with this. The description is of a travel warning for *Oregon* but they are talking about *Detroit*. As far as I know, both are on opposite sides of the country and one is a State.
They keep doing that in california, but even though they increase the fines the fires keep coming back up. So they'll just tax everyone else there at least that will work!
@@Staki6908 not only did they increase fines but they cut the firefighters budget 2 years ago and we had to vote in an annual tax to keep our local fire department all while they touted this was the new normal for california to keep burning. And yet they continue they chemtrail and rain down chemicals that are highly flammable as well as unhealthy!!
@Anthony sullivan hey bro, one time I was only talking about Apples (the one you eat) then boom Trump this, Trump bad, Trump orange man bad. Like Jesus Christ everything about Trump. Lmfao! They are Obsessed with that guy.
Two unrelated events RELATED. They say the true origin of the sinking of the Titanic was a coal fire which started before the " Unsinkable Ship" set sail. The crew men could not totally extinguish the fire and so it continued to "secretly" burn while all passengers were unaware. They also say the Owner and Captain knew but immense amounts of money, via insurance etc. was on the line for an uninterrupted sail date and voyage. Those able to give an account even shared pictures of the hull looking very dark before setting sail. Finally, the coal fire melted the metal creating a hole and causing a perfect storm....the Titanic did hit an iceberg compounding the event and fatal journey. Hence, an unquenchable fire catapulted the majestic Titanic into catastrophic tragedy, whereas, those passengers travelling 3rd class were locked downstairs prohibiting access to escape as the ship began to sink. The Carpathian would not be able to rescue them! This is my question:. HAS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BECOME SYNONOMUS WITH THE TITANIC?!
My mom fell through a root fire, third degree burns. Her cries broke my heart…. We had to rush her to the hospital, a thirty minute drive cause we lived out of town
There is nothing new about underground fires like this. I was trained to fight wild fires back in 1988 and this was a major concern then. The mop up afterwards is so important firefighters spends weeks after the main blaze doing so.
@Trump2020 Trump You will find out one day that he does when something bad happens and you are begging God for help. Miracles happen when you are brought to your knees.
God bless you all and Jesus Christ loves you! Jesus Christ, The Son of God, who is God manifest in the flesh, loves you! He died on the cross for our sins, was buried, and rose again from the dead 3 days later, defeating death, so we could receive everlasting life. This is known as The Beautiful Gospel, which also means, "Good News." Repent and believe in The Gospel! Proverbs 28:13- He who covers his sins will not prosper, But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy. Mark 1:15- and (Jesus) saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in The Gospel.” Romans 10:9- because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. God bless you all again!
The tortoises, rabbits, shakes, burrowing owls, mice, groundhogs moles, gophers all losing their homes and probably cooking to death. And all the birds and animals which live in the trees on fire. So much wildlife at risk and lost.
The door to hell has been burning since 1971. Different story altogether because it was set on purpose. Geologists intentionally set it on fire to prevent the spread of methane gas. It was from a mining operation that collapsed they were going after oil. It is in Derweze, Turkmenistan
