Merci à celui qui a proposé cette chanson ! Le 17 de ce mois je proposerai "L'odeur de l'essence" si personne ne l'a encore fait. Manifestez-vous si c'est le cas, ça serait dommage de faire des doublons !
@@Grarkiwi Pas pour moi désolé ! Je lui reconnais beaucoup de talent à Kery James mais son côté vindicatif envers la France me gêne. Mais je peux comprendre qu'on l'aime, y'a pas de soucis ! Plus jeune je l'écoutais mais je ne peux plus.
The translation is okay but there are a few things here and there that are either lost in translation because of cultural differences or slightly mistranslated. Now, while I'm sure Orelsan agrees with a great deal of what he's saying in this song, not everything is to be taken literally because he was trying to put himself in the shoes of someone who's fed up with this world and who's contemplating suicide. It's basically a character, not everything that is said in this song aligns with his actual views on things.
@@stuarttusspot4769 i agree, like Slim Shaddy is a caractor for Eminem, in this song he's role playing a guy who vomit his hate before pushing the trigger and erase himself... You can feel the rage in is voice wich is not he's typicaly way of singing... In real life he's a funny guy with a kind of british humour...
@@frizsub8069 Oui exactement pareil. On se dit que le système est prêt à péter en entendant ça, mais il y avait déjà des textes/chansons aussi engageantes dans les années 90, et probablement bien avant. Qu'est-ce qui nous fera vraiment changer ?
@@romsthe La faim. Le froid. La perte du confort. On a une vie trop confortable pour accepter les risque du "changement". Les armes modernes sont un gros problème aussi. Dans le passé des soldats ne pouvaient stopper une horde de paysans. Une armée moderne le peut, même à 1 contre 200 Mais quand les catastrophes naturelles, l'extreme pauvreté, la rarefaction des ressources et le changement climatique nous forceront à émigrer et à perdre ce confort... Il sera surement trop tard pour réagir.
Orelsan is probably what french rap did better in the past 15 years, after IAM, MC Solaar, NTM and Kerry James. A true artist. This song is another masterpiece.
@@baptisteheraly196 or probably you don't know anything about french rap for the last 20 years. Roce, Lucio Bukowski, le club des losers, dooz kawa, and many more... There are tons of far better rapper than him, you just need to step out of Skyrock.
@@lasthell1628 or probably you haven't read my comment til the end where I quote other rappers. Never said there' s no other good rappers, and to be fair, I don''t give a damn shit. Funny how a positive comment attract toxic wienners so quickly. Is it your opinion ? great. Like mine, nobody cares.
@@baptisteheraly196 saying that Orel san did better than every other french rap artist in the past 15 years isn't "positive", bro. And all the artists you named are from the 90's. Orelsan is definitly not among the best. Just the most popular among teenagers and a very mainstream rapper, nowaday.
Actually he is not really thinking everything he says in the song, but he embodies someone who is going to kill himself ( you can hear the gun at the end) and list everything that led him to this decision. He couldnt says so much things otherwise. Clever move.
@@pargelenis5003 ça reste évident qu'il amplifie la haine envers tout ce qu'il cite, parce qu'il cite littéralement TOUTE la population d'une certaine manière
After that you absolutely HAVE to hear "l'Odeur de l'essence" from him. A lot of comments also mention "Basique" and "La quète" (in a lighter mood ;) ) !! Also : "Orelsan" is the contraction of "Aurélien" (his first name) an "san", the japanese suffix for "sir" (or respectfull addressing) because he's a big fan of manga and animés ;)
Funny thing is that he also writes very funny rap songs with another rap artist, they are called "casseurs flowters" in reference to the bad guys in Home Alone, you should also listen to their albums. His songs are a mix of serious, funny and nostalgic lyrics. In his last album he wrote "l'odeur de l'essence" which is kind of like "suicide social" but more up to date or "du propre" which is so fun to me and well written.
@@frmarie-oz5xu Casseurs Flowters are even better than Orelsan alone, because it has a much funnier side while being deep and relatable for most people born before 2000
The song tell the last word of a psycho who's about to kill himself. Orelsan plays a character, he dosn't validate or defend what he says, he 's playing a role. The fact that you agree "100%" with what's written, makes you what he criticzes the most in the song, according to me.....
you should try "tout va bien" from Orelsan, this is the way a father lie on the reality of the world to his son. or "defaite de famille" where he makes a speech in a family party to say to every family members why he hate them.
Je dis ouiiiii !!! mais quelle excellente proposition !!! MERCI !!!! On veut encore du ORELSAN :D J'avoue, l'odeur de l'essence à voir serait génialissime !
This song is a banger amongst many other from OrelSan as it transpires his authenticity. The majority of them is worth listening to to grasp the essence of his bright’s personality.. am a forever fan 🤘🏻
ORELSAN is a French rapper, singer, composer, actor, director and screenwriter. This song tells the last words of a suicidal man who settles his scores with the whole of French society before killing himself. Other famous songs by Orelsan : "La quête", and in duet with Stromae "La pluie" and the most famous song "BASIQUE" This video clip was shot in one take, a very impressive performance, and the lyrics are also basic and full of common sense.
Je me demandais pourquoi j'adore chacune de vos vidéos réaction... Vous parlez anglais, moi qui ai si peu appris votre merveilleuse langue. Et me voilà, aujourd'hui à commenter, ici, une vidéo je j'ai encore adoré. En fait, je viens de comprendre pourquoi. C'est parce que, en regardant vos vidéos, je m'aperçois que j'arrive à vous comprendre quand vous parlez naturellement dans votre langue. Je crois que je commence à apprendre votre langue grâce à vous. MERCI.
C'est le fils illégitime de Trust et de Diams ? 😆 Je fais une allergie foudroyante au rap en général mais là, je suis scotché par l'écriture ( et en plus je comprend ce qu'il dit 😅) ... Du coup j'ai bien envie d'en écouter plus.
C'est dommage cette allergie car il y a dans le rap énormément d'artistes qui écrivent réellement bien et dont les morceaux valent vraiment une écoute. Leurs thèmes peuvent être parfois très similaires à ceux des rapeurs que vous n'aimez pas, mais ils les abordent avec une réelle patte et selon moi, certains sont de vrais magiciens de la langue française
The translation captured the meaning perfectly. Of course a few cultural references (only a few, really ^^) are lost in the process but the whole is faithful to who Orelsan is, a great artist, and a very smart guy ! If French were THE international language, Orelsan would be as famous as Eminem. To my mind, he's the best french rap songwriter ever (and in France, we have a tradition of great rap songwriters. Sometimes, we even compare the best of them to poets) ... Kiss from France 😘
TBF, It's not a song about all that's going bad in our world and the direction we take right now (the song is old now). It's about hatred and personnal vision we have of ourself. The song goes to tap-in "we hate all the same things", and goes on point we can agree/disagree, and being blind hate on people that don't deserve hate. He's in a spiral because of his hatred. He loose more and more of his humanity the more the song goes on till he loose everything and can't even bear his own existence.
La traduction est pas mal mais par exemple la traduction de banlieue par suburb ne fonctionne pas, particulièrement pour les Américains où suburb désigne les cartiers remplis de maisons avec la petite parcelle de pelouse à l'écart de la ville, où vivent surtout la classe moyenne ou les riches. La bonne traduction aurait été hood
This song is a diamond, it keeps building up until a drop that only happens to be the end of the song. This is overwhelming, and it helps merging with the song and lyrics. Orelsan is truely a rap jeweler, crafting masterpiece after masterpiece
Like some other comments said, in this song Orelsan plays a guy who is angry against every part of society, so he write a letter to insult them all before killing himself. Orelsan is a rapper who succeeded despite being not from Paris or Marseille and doing rap in his own unique way, too different from this time's standards. His whole journey is told in a documentary series made by his brother who filmed him his whole life. To see how he evolved through the years i recommend : - Changement - Peur de l'échec - ils sont cools (casseurs flowters) - Basique - peon (vald feat Orelsan) - l'odeur de l'essence He also directed and played in a movie that tells his story with his friend gringe (they have a really silly and fun rap duo together : casseurs flowters) and there also are 120 2min long episodes of a funny show with Orelsan and Gringe and the concept is simple: two unemployed guys sat on their couch who says dumb shit. So you have a lot to explore if you like Orelsan !
Hi Uncle D, 🌴🌞 Of course, it's a pamphlet, but not only that. If we interpret the words correctly, he's angry with the whole world. No one, absolutely no one, escapes his hatred that has turned into rage against everyone. It's a rant on the human being mind paradoxes ("who says that but does this," it's recurrent in the text) and perfectly human pettiness, double talk. Peace, folks. ☮👈😎
Orelsan is beyond his characters. He isn't the guy of this song hating everything, he is the one writing and performing it to show how being so negative leads to self destruction. He tends to think everything he is expressing here, but not at the same level nor for the same reasons and goals. For instance he is way more against alt right than against wokism, but mainly attacks wokes at same level as fascists because he is picturing someone hating everything, plus he knows they'll make a lot of buzz online, which coming from them is great publicity. Through his interviews (and his private life) he shows being against any discrimination, any toxic human exploitation, and any system generating it. If you're against wokes you'll likely face some internal conflicts by enjoying Orelsan, because he is one of them. XD
In french there is obviously à lot of subtilties, plays with words and impact in choices of words. But, you got it for essential. It's like read and re-read and re-re-read a poem to got all you can get
He is a Franch rapper from normandie, he shot that video (and others ) in normandie. He also has a documentary about his career on Prime (second season show how he made his new album during covid).
Suicide social Oh boy! C'est qui celui-là!? This guy is NOOOOOT very happy! 😂 As we say in french Orelsan is "La Claque" (a Biiiig Slaaap) He's the greatest! the translation is pretty close
La partie la plus importante de cette chanson, c'est le coup de feu à la fin. Si tu la prends littéralement, c'est parce que tu l'as mal comprise. Le coup de feu signifie que tu te suicide parce que tu enfermes les gens dans tes cases, et que tu les réduits à des opinions trop tranchées. Les gens sont plus que des cases. Il faut pas penser comme ça, parce que c'est un "suicide social" pour toi comme pour la société en général. L'essentialisation est une erreur. Orelsan l'a expliqué plein de fois ;). The most important part of this song is the fireshot in the end. If you take it litteraly, then you didn't understand it. This fireshot means that thinking that way is a suicide because you trap people in small cases and reduce them to that. Your opinions ends up too caricatural. Peoples are more than small cases. Don't think that way because it is a social suicide for you and for society in general. Essentializing people is a mistake. Orelsan explained it many times ;).
Ohh yes, in France, we also know Tom McDonald and Ren!!! I love them both. Orelsan is a great writer. I love "L'odeur de l'essence". You should check it out !!! More over, not only the song, but the clip too is great !!!! Love to you, and you all !!!! 🕊🤍🪽
Yep, french Eminem is deserved. He's really good. Just remember though that he's portraying a guy ready to commit suicide because he's pissed off. It's a song about hatred imho, not a song about things to hate.
Ce que j'aime dans cette chanson c'est que tout le monde en prend dans la figure, y compris nous même. Il attaque toutes les personnes et institutions qui merdent complètement. On ressent une énorme haine et bizarrement, à la fin de la chanson je ressens comme un gros soulagement, une libération, et du coup je me sens en paix. Au final ce n'est pas vraiment de la haine mais plus un exutoire pour relâcher la pression. Cette chanson est effectivement une oeuvre d'art. Si tu veux un autre rapeur qui balance des grosses claques de vérité je te conseilles d'écouter Keny Arkana (une rappeuse). - Ordre Mondial. - Hé connard. - La mère des enfants perdus. - V pour Vérité. - Odyssey d'une incomprise. - Ils ont peur de la liberté. - Victoria. - L'usine à adulte. Etc etc etc etc En vrai écoute toutes ses chansons. J'aime 95% de ces chansons dont plusieurs me font pleurer tellement c'est profond. C'est la meilleure rappeuse de France. La plupart des rappeurs le reconnaissent. Elle est loin au dessus.
As a french guy the translation was alright, there where a few shortcuts here and there like: "fdj= française des jeux" they translated it into french lottery, it's basically the same but it's a nationwide known brand. They did that cuz it's simpler, anyways i totally agree with you D on your comments about the video i've been watching you for a couple days/weeks love the vibes you're awesome😉❤
Masterpiece exactly. Even if he is a successful artist he is underrated. I love Orelsan's state of mind modesty and the real definition of to be french.
To me this song is very similar to the 25th Hour movie “F everyone” monologue, I have always been certain it’s its reference. In the sense that the key to understanding the character depicted by the song, like Montgomery Brogan played by Edward Norton, despite all he says being rooted in reality, is how he actually despises himself, blaming everyone else until eventually himself, pointing out that that the real issue and solution are is in his mind and the way he’s looking at the world. Ultimately the topic isn’t the woke stuff pointed out but the way the depicted character (echoing the listener/viewer) should ask him/herself why their point of view about it is what it is. Because ultimately the people depicted in the song are completely legitimate being what they are, even with their small personal exaggerations or cliché behaviours. Because their small twists should only be smiled about and shrugged off, and are on a day to day basis. The character has trouble processing everyone else’s points of views, the world is changing fast, too fast for him, the media stream leads to an overflow but ultimately those people aren’t the problem, and his mental breakdown is pathetic/so out of proportions for things that do not actually have an impact on himself, his final s*icide shows that not asking yourself the right questions and staying at this shallow level is a dead end. Beyond the list of grievances that can legitimately considered one by one, the deeper meaning of the song is subtle despite its full frontal approach, there’s another level of understanding. Yes the character has freedom of speech, but Orelsan’s message is deeper. But those are just my 2 cents/my take on it. We French love to read between the lines. I’m pretty sure if you went to Orelsan to tell him you take the character’s takes at face value, he’ll just tell you that it’s good you liked it, but that it may not reflect his actual thoughts and that you missed the point. (PS: the 25th Hour monologue should be viewed in its 5min+ entirety going back to the start with the character rubbing his thumb against the mirror trying to erase the graffiti there, the truncated versions don’t give it its full power / actual meaning)
A genius that isn’t enought read! He deserves to be more known. He does’nt discover mathematics equations but he knows how to resume many issues in the world and put it in a good song with good rythm ! Good job to the unknown translator, because never in a thousand year the youtube translator can do a good job like that.
im french 29 years old and Orel-san has been there with his music since i was an adolescent and im still listening to it he has done a lot of different work and yeah for me its the french Eminem , funny things is that i think he got a lot of influence from Eminem when you listen to "Perdu d'avance" its some freaking good old shit for me
This song explodes like bomb in your face... It's about all the hatred in this unfair world, it's about our inner contradictions because we are in some ways victims/ guilty of the system we're putting in, that can be frustrated to live with all those paradoxes and you are aware of that, this can turn into a rage against the system, a system who generates eternely winners/loosers
I'm French, and the most impressive thing about his song is that it lasts 5min40 and he doesn't stop singing while only having rhymes on each line of his text (impossible to realize this with the translation). 5min40 (!!!) from a letter from a suicidal man who hates the world
Bonjour, en fait, il joue un personnage qui se donne la mort à la fin de la chanson, d'où le bruit de coup de feu, toute la chanson, il tape sur tout le monde, pas forcément par ce qu'il hait les gens réellement, mais surtout par ce que son personnage est désespéré jusqu'à arrivé à se donner la mort, plusieurs fois, il est revenu sur ces paroles en disant qu'ils n'avais rien contre les LGBT ou "woke" comme les gens l'utilisent aujourd'hui.
@@kilax7739 Le problème c'est les gens comme cet américain. Sérieux ce qu'il retient c'est "il aime pas les wokes" ? Alors qu'il doit y avoir 3 phrases sur ce qu'on appelle "woke" dans toute la chanson. Ce n'est plus possible (mais est-ce que ça l'a jamais été) de faire du subtile, parce que t'as toujours des gens comme lui qui sont incapable de voir ça en dehors du premier degré.
@@davbah Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec toi, pour ça je voulais rectifier ce qu'il dit dans sa vidéo, mais bon tu sais comment c'est, s'il pense comme ça maintenant ça ne changera pas
This song portays a character who's fed up with everything. I think many things come from what Orelsan thinks or thought at the time but pushed to an extreme. In real life he's a more moderate guy. A talented one.
This song was realesed in 2012 😅 I would not say he is the french Tom McDonald, but yeah this song is a freacking masterpiece. He has been compared to Eminem multiple times, first because he's white in a black music genre, but mostly because of his provocative and humoristic lyrics Orelsan said once that the lyrics are inspired by the movie 25th Hour with Edward Norton. There is a scene when the guy talks to himself in a miror, and during 5 minutes dissing everybody in the entire world 😂
Hello Guy, Orelsan est un artiste rappeur qui est classé dans une case différente en France. Il est hors norme, il a son style. Cela fait plus de 20ans qu il est dans le rap,mais pas de la rap système. Un peu à la Eminem, il a un style propre à lui, aucune copie. Il est lui a 100%. Il était au sommet de la gloire mais pourtant il a décidé de tout arrêter,le rap, la comédie. Pour s occuper de sa famille. Voilà l artiste et ses ambitions.pas de volonté a rester célèbre, il a préférer arrêter aussi pour sa santé mentale
What is important to understand regarding Orelsan's lyrics is that he often claims playing one or more characters in a single song. Not only to avoid censorship, something he suffered from. You can ear in "Suicide Social" a condensed and mixed opinions from french far left to far right voters, covering all the spectrum. I believe this is what it's interesting in his work. He understands a large part ot the french people and society (but not it all, instead) so his music, i believe, can make people from different states of mind gathering around the table. (Everyone love and hate Orelsan i believe. It's his true force!)
I know Orelsan but I discovered this one at the same time as you ! Orelsan is one of the most beautiful musical talents in my opinion. If you liked it... I advise you to discover other songs from his repertoire! As for me, I would advise you to listen to the song "rentrez chez vous" by BigFlo & Oli... it's upsetting I think...
I mean good that you think it still apply to our world, it really shows his timeless ability, this song is like from a decade ago. you should listen to l'odeur de l'essence, a song of his, similar to this one, but from 2021.
j'écoutais ce sons quand j'avais 8 ans grâce a mes grand frère jetait hype par le clip je comprenais pas réellement les paroles mais je les connaissais par cœur
Hi everybody ! I'm french, so excuse me for m'y english...and my président ^^ I don't like really Orelsan. Too mainstrean. But this song...wow. i love it. Very strong. For thé next song réaction, "la fin de leur monde" from IAM, live on Egypte. I'm very happy to sée some américan people discover some french song. Good job !
i love your energy man ! and the fact that that you are talking about the world situation without putting any country in a box, any of the things Orelsan talked about in that song prolly is a thing in every contry that exist.. sadly.
