I don't own the movie or song, just trimmed the song by Goo Goo Dolls called "I'm Still Here". Original cut from the movie, just wanted to share something I haven't found in good resolution.
i could completely relate to Jim's past, my mother left my dad and I. Never knew why she couldn't at least visit. Single parenting is hard whether you're a mom OR dad. One can't bring to the table what the other can do better. It's tough but this movie tells the viewer "there are always parental figures you'll meet out there to teach you." thats what I love about this film.
I also think it portrays quite well that the reason doesn't matter - no matter what the reason might have been it is no excuse to walk out on your kid. They don't deserve to suffer for your own shortcomings.
I have a theory that maybe that guy is his dad, because if I remember correctly his dad was in the military or whatever, which could explain the missing limbs of the pirate through war? Idk
Tbh, I don’t think I know anyone who doesn’t at least know of Treasure Planet, and I definitely don’t know anyone who actually doesn’t like it (except for the occasional bigot, but even then I might know only a couple)
You guys wanna' know something really depressing?... This movie was supposed to have a sequel AND its own TV series. They had everything planned out; the story, the characters... it was all being worked on at that time and many concept art were already selected. It was only after eight months of hard work and serious planning that they received a phone call saying the project was officially cancelled, due to a lack of interest in the first film from the general public. SUCH A WASTE.
Hm, a rather valid point, I'll admit, but... 'sigh'.. just looking at the beautiful concept art that had been done tells me the movie would have *at least* had great potential. (Not to mention that said movie would also have shown the one thing I have been itching to know since seeing Treasure Planet for the first time; Being, what happened to Silver.) ... I'm just sad that a load of perfectly good and creative ideas, as well as a great deal of time and effort from incredibly talented artists, were wasted just because of 'previous gain' issues.
It probably would have been akin to the Atlantis sequel. If I remember correctly, that was actually the first few episodes of the cancelled TV show just put together. They were also going to have a ride at Disneyland.
+elitadream really? I though it was an awesome movie I can't see how there was a lack of interest from the general public in the film...damn I hope they make it someday... although I don't think so :P
I think the best characterization about this segment is that you don't see Jim half-assing any of the jobs he's being given. He acts defiant, he gets an attitude, but he uses that drive to prove wrong what HE thinks Silver's (or every adult in his life) expectations are of him. The only difference is that Silver's noticing all the hard work Jim is putting forth and he recognizes him for it. It's how you can tell that Jim wasn't too far down the wrong path, all it took was an empathetic man like Silver to set him on the right path again.
I don't think jim was on right or wrong tract , he's still young deep inside him is good boy and caring all it need is someone can illuminate his path and understand him just like silver gave him a chance to act comfortably
I love the multiple layers of irony to this. The villain of the story is the one who shows Jim how to be a better person. It’s also pretty clear Silver is only hard on Jim to keep him distracted from what’s actually going on but ends up actually caring about Jim in the end. Him doing this to Jim is the thing that ultimately softens Silver. It’s so great.
You know what this film is successful. It didn't need to win an oscar, it didn't need to make tons of money. It had to touch people. This film did touch me and from all the comments and the people I watch this with, it touches them too. See that's the great thing about Disney, even their underrated and lesser known films have the power to touch many souls.
You know the relationship between Jim and Silver really works in this movie. You can really see that Silver really fills the void that Jim's father never tried to, and that Jim brings out good in Silver by filling a void that he didn't know he had.
I really love how; - we never see his dad's face - it was already a sad, complicated home even when Jim was just a toddler. There were already problems, presumably early in his parents' relationship. - that Jim is effected by his dad's neglect when he IS home. Your parents don't have to be gone to be emotionally absent. That was already hurting Jim and making him feel like he wasn't worth it.
Yeah even when he was there it was obvious that he didn't really want to know. The obvious half-hearted pat on the head, it's a gesture of minimum effort from someone doing just enough to acknowledge Jim without actually having to engage with him. The fact that he then didn't even think his son was worth AN explanation of any kind. Not even a letter if he didn't want to do it face to face, he just left. Plus with all the noise Jim was obviously making as he ran, I doubt he was unaware Jim was chasing after him, he just didn't care. He get no indication that he beat Jim or anything like that, but he still harmed him in a very real way. It is not good for a child to feel like a unwanted obligation.
When I was young, my dad would work all the time and I’d never see him. He eventually started taking weekends off but it wouldn’t matter cause he still wouldn’t spend time with me and always shut himself off in his room and for that reason, among others, he feels like a stranger to me.
Things this movie teaches: A bad man can learn to be a good father, and be a good man A misfit can learn to fit in, and appreciate what he has, not what he lost The treasure in life isn’t the wealth we chase, but the people who mean the most to us Self confidence can lead to a very prosperous relationship (Science dog and captain cat)
I am saddened that there was no sequel to this film but seeing the current direction of Disney in the quality of films, I don't want them to touch this movie. You don't ruin a masterpiece.
I love that scene of Jim just staring at Silver for a second affectionately, like a little kid looking at his dad again. He clearly wasn't listening to a word he was saying, he didn't need too, Jim can fly a boat, and was just happy to be with him.
Cheshire Waltz. You got the makings of greatness in you, but you gotta take the helm and chart your own course! Stick to it, no matter the squalls! And when the time comes, you'll get the chance to really test the cut of your sails and show what you're made of! And... well, I hope I'm there, catching some of the light coming off you that day.
2:05 This part is fantastic, John gets on the boat and goes off screen, and it reminds Jim of how his father left him, and as his dad leaves, it cuts back to John coming back and telling Jim to get on. It's so simple, but damn that is such a good moment Edit: I forgot to mention that Jim is visibly upset when John exits the screen, and visibly happy when he comes back, and that's specifically what I love about it
I also like how this song is the only time we see his dad at all. Like it's not something Jim thinks about or wants to. Only when he has another father figure and realizes he to could leave do these thoughts come to the forefront for Jim, which we see here. And it is only broken by that father figure proving the fears of his dad leaving wrong. That he is worth it and people do want him in their lives. And it snaps Jimbo back to the present
Gotta give Disney props for having a divorce instead of just brutally offing one of the parents. I completely forgot how mature this movie was in that it showed a father walking out on his family. I know what a parents divorce is like, but was lucky enough to have both parents still in my life.
i always thought the father left for an expedition/adventure thing and never came back and was assumed dead, like the mom was crying bc she didnt want him to leave bc she knew how dangerous it was
I think it's more that Jim's dad was leaving on a journey, and therefore his family, for good. It's implied that he was barely around when he WAS there for Jim, but obviously Jim looked up to him cause he went to space all the time. So it's more of a "I have to go on this trip, I probably wont be coming back because it's dangerous, but it doesn't matter anyway."
If you ask me, the Cyborg wasn't exactly an antagonist, he was the mentor that Jim needed in his life since his dad left him. That friendship they had is probably the greatest chemistry between protagonist and "antagonist" ever in a disney film.
He is an antagonist in the beginning though. Throughout the movie even while building his bond with Jim and slowly growing soft his goal is always the treasure and he won't let even Jim get in the way and ends up betraying him for it. Its not til he's tested that he realizes what's more important and changes into someone better but still keeps his mischievous personality. That was the whole point though is that they both changed each other for the better but he was still an antagonist.
kaijuumafoo I agree and that's actually how "antagonists" in the real world work. You may or may not ever like them, but in the long run what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
2:08 i love how Jim's past comes back to try and hurt him again, but then Silver comes back and asks Jim to join him. and that smile at 2:45 is just so genuine.
2:00 “Can you help me be a man” I was lucky enough to grow up with a dad who taught me continues to teach me everything he knows, that line still hits me like a bullet. This movie is a masterpiece.
This sequence is one of the most heart warming scenes Disney has ever produced, the music, the imagery, what a beautiful scene from an overlooked amazing film.
This is one of the most original concepts disney has ever come up with along with lilo and stitch zootopia and atlantis. If you like this film pick up a copy of rise of the guardians. Another well done animated film with strong characters and at times extremely bittersweet story.
I did not understand the meaning behind the part from 2:10 to 2:45 until now. When Silver left, he got reminded of how his dad left, but unlike his dad, Silver came back and took him along on the ride even gave him the reins. Fudge this song and movie became much more emotional now. I didn't understand this movie much when I was a kid but enjoyed it. Now, since I am older, everything makes so much more sense and it's all more emotional.
My adopted dad played this for me a few days ago and I cried in front of his two kids 8 and 10. He used to put this on for me as a kid, I would make him replay it the second it ended and make him watch it again. He always would tell me as much as he saved me I saved him, I think watching this as an adult made me realise it’s not about who’s ur family but who loves and cares for u regardless.
I miss the 2D animation because back when Disney was doing 2D animation, almost all of their movies had a different animation style that made them unique. From Pocahontas with its painted-like backgrounds, to Mulan where every cloud of dust, foam, or snow was an unfurling motion, and Princess and the Frog where almost every happy scene had such a golden glow to it. My only issue with the 3D animation that's being done now is that it will get outdated extremely quick, and there's no variety to the style. Rapunzel, Anna, Elsa, and soon Princess Moana all have the exact same facial build.
They said (2004) Home on the range is the reason why 2D animation stopped but they still didn't care and made Princess and the frog and (2011) Winnie the Pooh had a low box office so Walt Disney animated studios just sticks with computer animation
***** Not in the general features, no. It's obvious that they're not similar in terms of things like hair, skin, clothing, etc. But they have eerily similar facial build, not necessarily a bad thing but it doesn't always look good. Rapunzel, Moana, and the Frozen sisters all have very large, round eyes, very round head structures, and most of their features are within close range of each other. Visually, the design choices are made because to the human eye, it's meant to look cute and baby-ish, and it appeals to us. It's Disney's design choice, more so in recent years, when it comes to women.
***** What do you mean? I just explained it once. because you implied that you couldn't see it. (Long-ass wall of text, be prepared) I didn't say Disney was the only studio to partake in "same face", I just said that they did it; the thing is that everyone applauds them for "physical diversity" and it is a lot of undeserved praise. Studio Ghibli and Tim Burton are poor examples to use because both of those animation companies look the same due to style, they are characteristics of the style. Tim Burton uses large terrified eyes, gloomy colors, and scribbly-looking outlines (present around the eyes and within details) to add a gloomy look, but they're not all the same. Look at all the characters in Corpse Bride, not a one of them look alike to each other. Emily is decayed, yet she has a fuller figure and with more emphasized lips and nose, whereas Victoria is petite, with smaller features that are less pronounced. Victor is tall and scrawny with very large, nervous eyes; Lord Barkis is more elegantly kept in clothing and appearance with a large chin and more robust figure. Further, Studio Ghibli's also different. Chihiro from "Spirited Away" compared to Ponyo from the same movie are not one and alike: Ponyo's face is overall rounder and her eyes are bigger and wider without eyelashes. Chihiro's face is longer because she's a young girl (yet older), her eyes are smaller and she has eyelashes. Howl from "Howl's Moving Castle" and Haku from "Spirited Away" are also different; Haku's features, like his eyes and chin, are more pointed (due to appearing cold and aloof most of the time), Howl's facial aspects are more feminine and larger (because he's overall more friendly and warm in appearance). Not defending anime or Don Bluth because yes, they are very same faced. But again, it's not the fact that Disney has same-face, it's the fact that people praise "muh diversity" when there's very little present at all in Disney anymore (and even back then).
PokémonTrainerJakob I don't think Meet The Robinsons is as underrated. I've seen Meet The Robinsons on TV WAY more often than Treasure Planet....meaning MTR: Like 4-5 times. TP: Never.....
As a child my father left me without a say. I searched for a father figure all my life. Now as a father of 2 I believe I got a chance to do it right with them. Having them turned my life around for the better good
True. But you can also see how happy and surprised he is when Silver saves him over the treasure, not just "oh I'm not gonna die" happy but, "my friend isn't gone" happy.
Also the sequence at 2:07 when at first he's happy he's helping plenty and then seeing Silver get on the boat alone reminds him of his father leaving.... and then the sheer happiness when instead of fleeing Silver invites him on the boat to teach him how to fly it
But it wasn't the actual truth. Mr. Silver had a goal and needed his crew to follow his lead to accomplish that goal. If you are soft to your crew they will overthrow and take control. But he really felt a deep connection with Jim. Really touching movie
In almost every disney movie the main character has only one parent because of death and usually they just tell us about how the person died and that's sad on it’s own. But in this movie the parent doesn’t die but just leaves his child and never comes back. In a way that's more sad than death. And just by the way they told us how Jim's father left not with words but with the visual and the song was just brilliant and amazing. How is this not more popular than frozen? Seriously this is Disneys best movie hands down. EDIT: Wow I wrote this 9 years ago. I still think this movie is better than Frozen and it deserves way more recognition.
Cubix atleast if the parent/s died the kid still know that they died unwillingly, and they didnt want to leave their kid behind. but watching your parent made that choice to leave you is more painful than anything
Cubix, you said it! Everybody usually remembers mufasas death from the lion king but Jim’s dad leaving both him and his mother also hits home real hard.
2:42 this part of the song always brings a tear to my eye the way Silver comes back for Jim to let him ride. Never will i understand why this movie gets so much hate from critics
"(Not) a moment that's held in your arms." I finally get it. Jim wishes his mom would stop seeing him as the tiny little child she once cradled, because he can't grow up or earn respect if she always treats him like that.
Its crazy that the director of this film Ron Clements who directed alot of the disney renaissance films such as Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and Hercules, he wanted to make Treasure Planet before all of these great movies and Disney told him no and thought it was a bad idea. He kept bugging them about it until they said "well you helped us with all these movies we will let you have your project" and they didnt even care about Treasure Planet and supplied it with barely any marketing budget and put it out with other blockbuster movies at the time. Crazy that Ron Clements realized the potential of the movie but Disney did not.
Blame Jeffrey Katzenberg for that. It was him who kept refusing Ron Clements and John Musker's dream project of making Treasure Planet. In fact, only when Katznberg was fired was the project finally green-lighted. Then again Katzenberg thought that The Lion King was a terrible idea that was no doubt gonna flop. That tells everything.
Years of appreciating this movie and just now realizing 0:46 this moment foreshadows Jim tying everyone's lifelines later on. Jim had always been listening and goes above and beyond everything Silver throws at him, and Silver sees all of it. So it's why Silver never thought Jim messed up with the lifelines
This scene plus the heart breaking comments about their father leaving when they were a young age. I couldn't hold back the tears. My father is still with me and it breaks my heart when people tell their story about their parents just leaving.
God I get so emotional seeing this scene. I never had dad issues myself,but seeing Jim grow up with his dad barely being part of it really got to me,the scene where we see that Jim's dad just got up and left never to return really got me choked up
I feel as though this film wasn't appreciated enough. The story of this is a thousand times better than that of modern day Disney films, such as Frozen for example. This should be recognised as one of the best, and I feel so sorry for the parents and children who never saw this or ever will.
***** I am really sorry about that, my parents don't live together anymore which I am actually really happy about because my Dad verbally abused me quite a lot when I was younger. These songs remind me of happier times :)
***** Not to offend you but I turn to myself for answers and get through them on my own, which I always had to do anyway. I'd rather be able to rely on myself or someone close to me whom knows me and can help me directly.
Well..that's your opinion..and..know what, I'll say some random question. Do you think Disney is trying to make their own original stories? Yes, I know this comment is two years old.
2:08 I never realised after so many times watching this film that Jim looks upset because Silver flying away reminds him of the memory of his father leaving
On the millionth rewatch I JUST NOTICED!!! That when Jim falls asleep after washing dishes, Silver puts HIS OWN COAT over him. Until now I thought it was just a blanket, but him putting his coat just makes it SOOO much sweeter and more sentimental
As a dad, and as a son I cannot understand how anyone can pass on the gift of being THAT person in a child's life. You get one shot, don't blow it. Here, it's all the bettter because Silver owes no obligation to Jim but becomes a father to him. My own dad veered from being physically abusive, to being absent, to being neglectful. To this day (I am 56) he still offers only negativity. I got NOTHING from our relationship but an example of what NOT to be to my child. Had several people that I encountered that were like Silver but regretfully all of them had their own commitments.
I didn't have a great relationship with my father either. I'm 30 now and I wish we had a better relationship. I eas lucky that I had a great father figure in my step-dad.
One of the best and most underrated Disney movies. Every time this part comes on, I get close to crying. As a Dad, I try to spend a lot of time with my son. As a teacher, I can’t help but want to spend time helping all these poor kids who have had to grow up without a male figure.
It is seriously so special. You're awesome for caring about being a good father. You should check out my analysis video on the movie on my channel that I just released. It talks about why the movie is spectacular, and also why it was never as big as other great Disney movies!
There's a RU-vid channel about a guy that grew up in foster care and when he became a dad himself he had to learn all of these things to be able to teach his son and then he started putting them online. Now there's a whole section of things a dad should teach on RU-vid that these kids can reach out to now and even if there's no relationship to build at least they won't suffer from not knowing the information
This wasn’t in your recommendation, you came here to reminisce about your childhood because thats when we first watched this movie and fell in love with it.
I’m having a very emotional moment right here, thank you everyone for sharing this with me. I’m 23. This was (and will always stay) my forever favourite animation since 2005. And the scene itself became more personal, due to my current situation. Hell, is this movie underrated.
Yeah, this movie shows real human emotion that all of us can relate to in different ways. We all need somebody to believe in us and to help us in our own journey through life.
If it weren't for him Jim never would have been so noble. He was an antihero who in the end chose Jim. They brought out the best in one another, they needed each other. Good relationship. Good movie.
Late answer to an old comment but still... In many ways, Silver is Jim... As in, if Jim hadn't got the father-figure of Silver at that time, he would have ended up replacing parts of his body, to look for and obsessing about the "treasure".
My father left when i was 11, and i can understand as a boy who was raised by a single mother. There is something missing. Sure mothers give you the care, love & nurture but the fathers are the ones who usually teach, inspire, guide & encourage. Growing up i had some envy to my classmates, they seemed to possess a sense of direction & clarity who they are, and as a boy growing up i always lacked it. And probably other men raised by single mothers do.
You and me because my father lift me and brothers and sisters when I was 6 years old and I haven't seen since I was 9 and it been hard for me and my mom and brothers and sisters
That's not always the case even with both parents I still feel I don't know who I am or what to do with myself. Not saying my parents are horrible they certainly aren't the best but they do some things right but still.
I relate so hard to this comment and this song. My parents divorced when I was 4. My dad was still physically in my life, and my brother and I saw him often. He even lived in the same town as my mom. But that's all he really was, is physically there. That makes it hard because it's hard to point out what's missing when you physically go to your dad's house like every weekend. It's taken me until my 20s to really see how much was lacking in my relationship with my dad. Once, in college, I went something like 2 whole months without seeing or talking to him, and it struck me how much I didn't even miss him, barely even thought about him. Like there's this entire part of me that's missing, and I can't even tell it's gone. Can't even feel the loss of what was never even there to begin with.
I’m rewatching this movie again as an adult, and I’m amazed to see how Jim never really did anything wrong. He had an attitude and was defiant, but ultimately he did everything everyone expected him to do, and did his best (even if it was just to prove people wrong). It’s such a perfect depiction of how it feels to be a teenager: trying your best but somehow still missing the beats everyone’s looking for.
Thankyou for posting this song. When I was a little girl my father and I would whatch the movie just to hear this song. He used to get very emotional durring the song. Unfortunately I never got to ask him why he recently died for a prolonged illness. I miss the images of a better time with him and this song allowed me to revisit them thankyou.
After my parent's divorce my dad became absent in my life. He would go months without having any contact with me, and when he did it was either yelling and belittling me, or him trying to turn me against my mom. Despite my mom's best efforts he was absent from my life. I love this movie because I can relate to Jim. And this scene beautifully animates Jim and Silver's relationship.
Treasure Planet was supposed to have a TV series in the same vein as Aladdin and Hercules if it did as well as was expected in the box office. It would've been about Jim going to various planets.
I'm kind of happy that it didn't happened though. Because "Tarzan & Jane" and "Atlantis 2" are terrible, and they're both a compilation of the three first episodes of a tv show that never happened.
Sitting here bawling my eyes out to this video comparing it to my life. My dad left when I was young and the part where he runs down the stairs was exactly like me as a kid I ran down one morning and he was gone I remember running to the window and the front door trying to chase after him. My grandfather took me under his wing raised me as his own and taught me everything I know today. He wasn’t an easy man to work with or even live alongside over the years but he stepped in and filled the shoes of my father which I will always respect him for.
I love how Silver's relationship with Jim progresses so naturally. He recognises from the get-go that Jim has been missing an older male figure in his life and that he can inspire authority and respect by filling it and use that authority to keep Jim in line without catching wind of the pirates' plans. However, he also recognises that whilst Jim has a slight attitude, there's a good reason for it, and he also shows great potential and intelligence. As such, he makes him continuously work the lower jobs for a time, which in turn motivates Jim to prove him wrong and earn his respect, and because Silver has such a charismatic aura and personality, Jim respects his orders in spite of his attitude. And finally, after seeing that Jim really means it, Silver begins entrusting him with more privileges and opportunities to show his talents, which Jim happily accepts, feeling truly recognised for the first time in his life by an older male figure he'd been lacking this whole time.
Miranda Morgan I didn't have daddy issues (although I didn't feel like my dad understood me that well either), but this was like, my theme song when I was 15; I was constantly listening to it. Now that I'm older I feel ashamed of how I acted during my teenage years, but it doesn't change the fact that this song perfectly encapsulated how I felt back then, and I still love it now.
I don't know. But I think Disney's trying to make original plots now. Frozen has taken inspiration from the Snow Queen, Big Hero 6 I- actually...I think they just based the movie off a comic...Wreck-It-Ralph is one..Moana...not sure..And we have The Good Dinosaur Coco coming soon. This is basically their second attempt of making original stories (I think) The first time they tried..like Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Home On The Range, The Emperor's New Groove, and Treasure Planet..All bombed except for two...I think...know what, never mind this.
Because the Karens are offended by everything. God forbid Disney actually makes an original movie with charcaters that kids can relate to, pretty animation, a solid story with mature themes, and, get this, a kick-ass music score that will blow all Kids Bop crap clear out of the water.
Oh man, I love Emperor's New Groove, that movie was awesome, sequel was ok but still I love it. Atlantis was awesome too, though it's sequel was less than ok. I don't really remember Home on the Range though, I might need to look it up on Disney+ if it's there. Am I weird for liking the underrated movies? Maybe? Maybe not?
this is such a great moment in the movie you don't even see Jims dads face with it being implied that he's been gone for so long that jim doesn't even remember what he looked like
I am a question to the world Not an answer to be heard Or a moment that's held in your arms And what do you think you'd ever say I won't listen anyway You don't know me And I'll never be what you want me to be And what do you think you'd understand I'm a boy ' No, I'm a man You can't take me and throw me away And how can you learn what's never shown Yeah you stand here on your own They don't know me 'Cause I'm not here And I want a moment to be real Wanna touch things I don't feel Wanna hold on and feel I belong And how can the world want me to change They're the ones that stay the same They don't know me 'Cause I'm not here And you see the things they never see All you wanted I could be Now you know me and I'm not afraid And I want to tell you who I am Can you help me be a man They can't break me As long as I know who I am And I want a moment to be real Wanna touch things I don't feel Wanna hold on and feel I belong How can the world want me to change They're the ones that stay the same They can't see me But I'm still here They can't tell me who to be 'Cause I'm not what they see Yeah the world is still sleepin' While I keep on dreamin' for me And their words are just whispers and lies That I'll never believe And I want a moment to be real Wanna touch things I don't feel Wanna hold on and feel I belong And how can they say I'll never change They're the ones that stay the same I'm the one now 'Cause I'm still here I'm the one 'Cause I'm still here I'm still here I'm still here I'm still here
When a Disney protagonists father aren’t in their lives it’s mostly due to them being dead, it rarely touches up on absent fathers, something more kids can probably relate to which makes this movie very special to me
This scene always reminds me of how I had to grow up without a father. He walked of my life when I was 5. Found out he had died when I was 13. All these years, I had to teach myself how to be a man, and thus I have succeeded without him. I am now 22. But yeah..a lot of us can relate to Jim and what he went through.
I understand what you had to go through. I know how bad this sounds, but my father was present but lived like a stranger in my life. Here I am the same age as you and I had to do the same. I had to grow up and become a better man without his hands in my life.
Aww, mine walked out when i was like ~5 (i can't even remember), started a new family when i was 20 and got himself two more kids. At the family gatherings he looks like the happiest sod alive with them around. I'm still like "the fuck i did?."
When Silver came back for Jim, I had to pause the movie and weep. No movie has ever done this to me. As someone who never had a father figure growing up but never really thinks about it, this movie hit something deep inside.
It's been said that a piece of art is often not appreciated in its time, but gains an appreciation later. This movie is a prime example of this. I remember my oldest brother showing me this movie once when I was visiting him and it was an instant favorite. This series needs more love, but let's hope Disney doesn't try to remake it. Especially with Tony Jay, and the man who voiced Silver having since passed away. It's still a fantastic movie.
Once I was on a trip to a cabin with a big group of college friends, and I didn't bring a blanket (bc there was supposed to be enough for everyone, but there wasn't) so I was using my towel as a blanket and it barely covered all of me. In the early hours of the morning when I was still asleep, one of the guys gently put his blanket over me and I woke up just enough to register who did it before drifting back to sleep. It was so nice of him and honestly one of the tenderest things anyone has ever done for me. They captured that moment and feeling perfectly here.
Something I just realized after rewatching this years later: At 0:34 Silver teaches Jim how to tie a hangman’s knot, but Jim already knew how to make one. I never noticed it as a kid, but now I know how dark this part really is
I don't think Disney haves the enough balls to imply that Jim tried to kill himself once but I believe this small moment says that this is something he already knows how to do and he is unsatisfied on doing this again and he came to this ship in order to do something new and exciting. To actually do something of real use.
I think that's a Sailors hitch. A hangman's knot is better for attaching things to things. If you wanted some thing darker you'd be looking for a Shepards Knot or a Half-Hitch. Better for making a Noose.
So thats actually a boatswains knot. Its commonly used in moaring and works like a reverse slipknot. You can actually tie just about anything down with a boatswains knot and it wouldn't move.
I doubt it was that grim. The real point of that scene was that Jim actually did take in from Silver how to make that knot, but immediately used it to skip out on Silver's class (lol). It was partly to show Jim's potential as a sailor, along with their relationship still needing building up over the course of the song.
Oh crap. The feelings this brought me is so real I cried. This was one of my favorite movies growing up. Unlike other movies I payed attention to everything about this movie. It's still one of the best movies I've ever seen, and me growing up without a father I really related to Jim. There was most likely nothing I didn't like about this movie, because it was just so perfect to me. I literally still have the old dvd in my closet in a secure place because I really treasured it. ;w;
this was a good movie and that song was my favorite part of the whole thing. we still have the DVD from when it came out. my dad was the type that decided that his second wife (my step mom) was more important than us. didn't see it coming, she the step mom also decided that we weren't worth a second thought, or maybe even a first thought. either way the song resonated with me, and I loved it. even the part in the movie where he thinks the alien with the pink squishy is going to leave him behind, that hit home too.
Same thing, when ever there was a moment showing the friendship between Jim, and John, I sometimes...sorta cry... But this song made my cry while watching it, and this is really impressive to me, as this is the first Disney movie that has ever made me cry. The only animated movie to make me cry, was The Iron Giant.
I totally agree. I always fill up with tears at this scene, and empathise with Jim's predicament when I watch this movies with my kids. What an underrated classic
The Disney movies that are inspired by the classic pieces of Literature are , by far, the best of all that Disney has made. This one, in particular, was a very imaginative venture - turning 'Treasure Island' into 'Treasure Planet', brilliant work. The movie was so exceptionally good and classy, that it didn't appeal to mainstream morons - but that was to be expected.It was a real work of thought - all the dialogues, art and soundtrack are so well orchestrated - and perhaps this result made it a little high end, much beyond the scope of comprehension of Disney's actual target audience. It's sad really, that such a work of art is so underappreciated.
This is a scene that will make me cry every single time. You feel Jim’s pain in this whole entire scene. From the start of the film he is this teenager who is getting arrested making the bad decisions and it affects his mother. Later on things start to change for him. He meets silver and they both change each others lives for the better. We don’t need to understand why his father left him. The way they can convey the emptiness and hollowness and sadness with just how it feels when someone leaves you is exactly the face he makes in that scene and it makes me cry every single time. That is the face of someone who never healed from their childhood trauma. Then when he comes back he has a reason to smile again and that’s when we has the audience feel the same way. I don’t know why this movie is so underrated it will always be one of my most favorite movies of all time. I also love seeing how he stands strong with the chores that he was given by him and he didn’t slack off at all. It shows us that he’s growing but he’s becoming a man and he’s not that teenager who is making bad decisions anymore it’s just a beautiful film and I will always love it and that song in the way that it’s scored in with those scenes beautifully done.
i don't care what people say about this movie being so underrated i still love this movie to bits. I watched it a lot when i kid and still love it as an adult. I love the story, the characters, the art style and moments. The relationship between John Silver and Jim is just awesome. Hell even when i have kids im gonna show this to them to show how awesome this movie is.
Tbh the animation is not that good. It's clunky and ugly. This obvious merge of cgi and hand drawn images just doesn't go well, the movie looks bad. Bad other than that, I love this movie to bits, I weep that it never got a sequel.
+borek921 I actually thought it looked quite good. I own it on blu-ray and personally it's eye candy for me. And for one of the first attempts to combine the two animation types at the time, it wasn't that bad. It actually was going to get a sequel at some point and even a TV show but lack of interest prevented it doing so. It was going to be a continuation. "The sequel was to pick up where the first film left off, with Jim Hawkins going to the Royal Interstellar Academy. At the Academy, he is a hotshot “natural,” but he doesn’t follow the rules very well. Hence, he gets off to a shaky start - especially with his classmate Kate, who is very smart and has a type A personality. Kate’s father is Admiral Blake, the Commander of the Navy. Jim and Kate vie for top of the class but have very different skills." To be honest if Jim was supposed to hit it off with some typical romance sap I'm kind of glad they didn't go through it, haha.
I did some reading about the sequel some time ago, I learned that Treasure Planet was a financial disaster, it saddens me when I see Frozen blowing up and gems like this are left and forgotten. I mean Frozen is ok and all but it doesn't deserve the attention it got, I can't even put my finger on why it got so popular, I mean it's nothing groundbreaking, just another Disney fairy tale without any meaningful message or plot, at least that's the impression it gave me. Oh well, at least I can come back to this song wherever I please and get goosebumps one more time. As for the animation, I dunno, the characters just feel disconnected from the world with their set in stone colors and shadowing while things areound them try to go for a more realistic look.
Well my friend, I have to say the animation is unique. Unlike other animation styles in other Disney films, this one stands out the most to me. Also, I think the mix of CGI and hand drawn animation is great. Also, please, Treasure Planet having no sequel is a miracle. I don't want to see Disney ruin it just to make a couple bucks.
Actually not only is it CGI it also had Deep Canvas on it too. (Deep Canvas is animation program that animates geometric shapes i.e the vines that Tarzan slides on, and the wheel thingy that Jim goes through in the beginning of the movie.) In fact most of it was Deep Canvas (because the ship was Deep canvas and most of the movie was on a ship), the CGI was mostly used in Silver's robotic parts and Jim's Solar Sailboat.
This has always been one of my favorite movies growing up but this scene right here is one of the hardest things to watch. My father is a wonderful man and an amazing dad but he is a Marine Corps combat veteran and when I watch this segment all I can think of was the image of him going away overseas with his seabag on his shoulder while three year old me is crying his eyes out. I'd seen so little of him for many years. It's been branded in my head ever since. I'm so fucking proud of my dad but I'm a grown ass man now, I've been in the Marines myself, work a heavy job in a factory and I'm a bodybuilder, and this scene still makes me choke like a little kid ahaha
How was your father when he was around, though? Was he as dismissive/distant as Jim's in the film, or did he actually give you attention/affection? I only saw Treasure Planet for the first time a few days ago, and I loved it. It's very moving in places, and this montage with the song is easily my favourite. My dad wasn't absent and didn't leave, but I don't really think he should've been a father. His father was absent because he was killed as a navy sub crew in WWII... So mine just had no reference for what a father figure could/should be.
@@SabiJD - I thank God my father was nothing like Jim's dad in the movie. My father is an orphan, abandoned by his parents at an early age and grew up in foster homes and on the streets of South Side Chicago when gang violence was at an all time high, he never had a father figure because the only male models he had in his life were either his father that left him or murderous, drug addict gang members. Despite all that, he is one of the most caring men I've ever known and an amazing father, I don't know how he managed to become the person he is after such a childhood but he was hell bent on raising a family and never make the mistakes his parents did with him. And goddamn it he succeeded. Missed him so fucking much when he was overseas
I think what makes this film so enduring is that it's clearly a passion project, from the soundtrack to the animation there's not a moment of it that's not someone's labour of love. I think it was almost destined from the start to be a cult classic, I'm kind of glad the bean-counters never got to run it into the ground over the course of the '00s and early '10s like they inevitably would had done if the film had succeeded at the box office.
Man this movie looks amazing. I think it's one the best fantasy worlds that Disney has ever conjured up. I actually want to live in this kind of Victorian era steampunk space... world. It's seriously friggin' beautiful.
Extremely underrated movie. I love the world too! You should check out my analysis video on the movie on my channel that I just released. It talks about why the movie is spectacular, and also why it was never as big as other great Disney movies!
I love this scene so much. I freakin cry every time. The Moment, when Jim realizes that Silver wants him to come on the Boat, too is so heartwarming. Especially when your Father left you, too. So damn good.
It’s unfortunate that this Disney movie didn’t do as well as the executives wanted, and yet there’s still the fans who treasure it dearly even after all these years :3 this movie is tied with being my favourite Disney film of all time
I was asked what one of my favorite love songs was recently, and I mentioned this song and this movie specifically. They asked why, since it wasn’t meant to be romantic at all. I said that the only love songs that have any real affect on me are about familial love. This is literally a boy finding a father figure that he was pretty brutally deprived of, realizing that some old/deep scars hurt just a bit less now, receiving the attention/praise he always wanted, and stumbling upon family where he didn’t expect it, after he’d ran away from the only family he had left. And the two of them mentor-student bonding is so nice to see, I loved it ever since I was a little kid. The focus on their relationship building instead of a romance throughout the movie held my attention so much more even years later.
This made me cry so much when I first saw it as a child ( and it still does ). I had a problrmatic dad, and created a lot of issues in my life. My mom raised me on her own but wasn't able to provide guidance that a father could possibly give. I was an angsty kid who didn't understand how to handle the saddness and frustration that I felt in my life. And I yearned for someone to understand what I feel. Jim's story really resonated with me. I would watch this movie again and again whenever I felt down. I wish Disney do more movies like this. Not the " boss lady" type shows they make now. Great movies transcends gender, and provides inspiration regardless if the kid is a boy or girl. Jim's story really helped me brave my adulthood and inspired me to aspire for something better for me and my mom . Thanks Treasure Planet
In an icebreaker my teacher asked what movie made you cry last. I said this. He kinda laughed at the movie name, so I revisited the sence to see if it still got me. Ive been crying hysterically for the last ten minutes. It's been at least 5 years sence I cryed like this.
This scene, and movie, made me so grateful that I still have my father with me. Even though I am an adult and live on my own, I know I can always count on him. He will have my back no matter what and will support me in my decisions. I love you, dad
The most beautiful thing is that we love this masterpiece dispite of that fact that we haven't a love story here, like (almost) every Disney movie. We just don't need it. The father/son bonds toch this point on 200%.
