Therapist Reacts to TREASURE PLANET 

Ohhh damn! I didn't catch that! In a way Silver redeemed himself.

Eh, i kinda hope that isn't what it was meant to symbolise because that kinda suggests that amputees are less than human

Brilliant! I need a movie buddy like you :)

@@felixhenson9926 not quite, its not the amputation itself, the arm and his other modifications are the consequences of his greed, and therefore a representation of his greed itself. you can have an amputation through no fault of your own and overwhelmingly that's the majority case, it just so happens that for specifically Silver, he got injured chasing after treasure.

@@itspice8737 In this movie specifically Silver has a line when talking about the cybernetics where he says that he sacrificed some things chasing a dream. (dream is implied as the treasure from knowledge the viewer has, and it is also delivered in a way that makes it seem that the arm and leg werent all that was sacrificed)

Yes! I love Amelia! I've also always loved how sassy and quick-witted she is. I'm also pretty certain I learned several larger fancy words from her. I love when kids movies don't dumb things down and use more complex vocabulary.

YES! I'm sad they didn't touch on her character as a role model for strong independent AND capable women. And Emma Thompson is ALWAYS a win

@@astaldogalI’m glad they didn’t. I find when people put too much notice onto something, it ruins the impact and message. That it’s normal and it doesn’t need to be addressed

Yes! That was one of the many wonderful things about this brilliant movie that got shoved under the rug! Thanks for mentioning her!

@makaniistorm8664 well, that's kinda the point. It's NOT normal to see that in media. Just look at all the flack the new barbie movie is getting. Just because you may have that normalized in your life doesn't mean it is normalized in others. I grew up with 90s rom coms and toxic family dynamics, so I didn't know what a healthy person looked like. Much less a healthy, strong woman who wasn't seen as inferior

The black community could learn something from this movie 😅

​@@Thiccness_Is_DeliciousI was about to ask what the fuck is wrong with you, but someone with the username 'Loli King' is obviously not worth trying to discuss morals with

If a sequel ever happened I would have it take place years later Jim is grown up & he sees his father again & his dad now wants to be a part of his life but Jim is furious & tells his dad where to step off. His dad's excuse is he wasn't ready to be a father & he regrets marrying too soon which angers Jim even more but Jim tells him he had a father figure who helped him become the man he is today. At the end of the movie Jim's dad dies & Jim has made peace with it he goes on to do great things (Jim's mom is still alive by the way & she too is angry her husband left her).

​@@catspaw3092An entire movie just to hate on Jim's dad is crazy 💀

@@Thiccness_Is_Delicious you arent funny

My dad did that emotionally after my mum left him (and took us with her)

It wasn’t a decision it was probably straight from the books maybe not I’ve never read treasure island

​@@matthewbaker1300Jim's dad dies in Treasure Island.

@@EclecticallyEccentric damn wonder why they changed it

@@matthewbaker1300 I feel it makes the impact stronger. because of this change wasn't simply alone because of a tragedy he has issues with having been abandoned too. this fear of someone consciously leaving you when you love them can definitely get someone to grow cynical about developing relationships since you wouldn't want to be betrayed again like that. it makes his relationship with the captain also constantly mirror this with when he finally finds someone he feels won't abandon him he gets stabbed in the back like that but despite all that he learns that people make mistakes as we are vulnerable and thus he still manages to forgive and the relationship grows deeper and more honest because of it. making it not only about not having a father figure but also about trauma from being abandoned makes me love the movie so so much more.

Absolutely! It's been a while since I've watched Brother Bear in particular. I'm sure it's on the CT list already and I hope it's coming soon.

Brother "godt damn" Bear is an underrated gem of the highest order. I will die on that hill, it knows what it's core lesson is, makes that point marvelously, and has great humor for good measure. And Phil Collins. I like that soundtrack almost just as much as Tarzan.

I was about 4 years old when I saw Dinosaur the first time on VHS and it was my introduction to dinosaurs and I loved dinosaurs ever since. I had dinosaur themed birthday parties twice in a row when I was 5 and 6.

to this day I keep "I'm Still Here" in my play list rotations. This movie and Atlantis are highlights of my childhood.

Yes! This! And the fact that they're all kind of looked down on by most critics as some of the lower ranking Disney films is INSANE to me. They're so unique! And beautiful!

Atlantis and Treasure Planet were criminally underrated! It was honestly ironic that Disney didn't believe in them since they were both coming of age style movies about characters trying to prove themselves to the world. They'll always hold a place in so many hearts!

@@sean_mccadden those were my favorite. Adventure awaits.

Knowing the disney trend these days, they will make it into a live action and bury it even deeper.

​@@Lobomutanteim pretty sure they lost money on treasure planet so i doubt it gets a remake. I think atlantis lost money too

@Grim_Bud I hope we get more movies in that style. I'm sure the writers of those movies would love to do it. Those stories were simple but they had so much heart.

completely relatable, watching Disney's "onward" was also incredibly hard to watch

I loved that you said that! It was the same for me too

My dad was always there but hardly ever related. Hardly ever made an effort to. Growing up there was always some level of angst between us. He tried to provide but just didn't know how to connect. Yeah, I get that always-present but feels absent thing. It was only when I got older that I started to notice that the gap in connection was as frustrating to him as it was to me. I'm a dad now and it took that for me and him to finally get along. I don't know the full context of your case but I hope you get that moment one day, man.

That's exactly how I feel. Not only from having an absent father/parent... but just the absence of being encouraged and beleived in.. whether that's from the people who you wish would support you or from yourself... I tell myself what Silver tells Jim.. I beleive I can do anything because I have it in me if I keep at it.

@@katsuyafeather1309this! 😢 such relatable message

Oh wow, I’d never thought of it like that before. I acknowledged that Scroop was an essential in creating conflict but I never found him that interesting till now. Whether the writers intended the symbolism or not, that’s a really insightful evaluation of the characters that creates an extra layer of depth to Jim’s development. This is one of my favourite films and it’s so cool to find more things to appreciate about it 😊

Btw the guy who played Scroop is also Death in Darksiders 2

That's even reflected in the way scroop falls away into the void....

We've received so many requests for it!

@@CinemaTherapyShow I’m so glad!

Yeah this one shocked me! Glad to see them do it though, this movie is part of one of my earliest memories of watching it as a kid

​@@CinemaTherapyShowCan you guys please do "Bridge to Terabithia"?

@@doldfamily9983 That would be a really good one to do! There’s a lot going on in that one 🥹

Bit of a tinfoil hat here, but I believe it was sabotaged because the big brains behind this movie were also behind the black cauldron, which was arguably Disney's biggest failure

@@samwilde8311 No tinfoil here. It was confirmed that the movie was used as a scapegoat to shut down Disneys 2D animations studios.

Unfortunately Disney purposefully engineered that flop. It was the director's pet project that he had been hounding Disney to let him make for YEARS and then to prove a point they set its release date at the worst possible time so that it would flop and they could keep the director and lead artist under their heel... they also then used the technology used to make this movie to make Tarzan.

@@SurrendertheCog Slight correction: Tarzan was BEFORE Treasure Planet, though they did use the expensive deep canvas technique in both.

@@samwilde8311 and Black Cauldron didn't have to be a failure, it was another instance of far too much meddling that pretty much ruined an adaptation of one of my favourite book series. That said it still had some incredible work in it. Disney in the 80s and aughts sucked.

Muppet Treasure Island is so goooood

Yessssssss!!! Tim Curry's Long John Silver is sooooo good!!

I strongly agree both are well made adaptations. It's a shame that this movie was a commercial failure though.

@@mysticmind4563 It was a purposefully made failure though. Disney didn't like how the animation method cost a lot of money, and if it succeeded they would have had to make more movies using the style due to investor pressure. So they gave it minimal marketing and the ads they did make were purposefully bad. Then on top of that they purposefully made it release at the same time as Harry Potter.

@@MagnusBellatorr I've heard of that fact and it's sad that it was set to commercial suicide. At the very least it remains as a classic even if it's a cult one.

I love that the scene is completely based in reality. I think that must be why it's so very well done and nails the emotions. From the IMDB trivia section: Animator Glen Keane drew from real life inspiration when animating Silver's "You've got the makings of greatness in you" speech to Jim. In his words, "I was seventeen years old and I had been fighting for a starting position on the football team as a halfback. And there was another player who was competing for the same position and he was a heck of a lot bigger and the head coach's favorite guy. I worked really hard and I got the starting position on this game and I was very proud of it. The game started and I played three plays and got the ball once. Then the head coach took me out and put the other guy in for the rest of the game. I never played again and I was crushed. As a seventeen-year-old, that's your life. You want your chance to shine. I had it but the coach took it away. "Afterwards in the parking lot, the assistant coach, Mickey Ryan, a great guy who spoke with his heart and always had a twinkle in his eye, put his hand on my shoulder and said, 'Glen, you're gonna do great things. You're gonna get that starting position. That wasn't right what happened.' And I could see that he really cared. There were tears in his eyes and I started to cry too. I lived that scene with Jim and Silver on the boat when Silver encourages Jim after a big setback. It was one of those things where you try to animate what you lived through and hope you can even get close to it."

Let's make a watch party and cry together.

This actually happened to me when I was twenty, I met a complete stranger while on jury duty and when that was over we had a conversation where he told me that “you be great no matter what you apply yourself to” and it shocked me so much that I froze in the parking lot. After that, I’ve gotten my associates degree and I’m just a few credits away from my bachelors (and making plans for my doctorate) and I’ve got a full time job in my field of study. All it needs is that one person to believe in you and say it with conviction to your face for you to believe it yourself.

This. I got this right before trying to apply to jobs right after having made a decision to specialize in something the school wasn't teaching, from a stranger at a job fair who didn't _need_ to say anything particularly nice to me. He just said that, while he didn't know much about this field, he could see that I had great potential in it. Those words were all I clung to for the next five months while I searched for a job, failing test after test and wondering if I really did pick a field I liked. I certainly wasn't as good as I "should" be, for someone looking for a job in that field. And then I got a job by someone who saw the same thing, the same potential. Its been almost two years now and I've been breaking through new skill ceilings in this art field every few months since the start and I've reached heights I could never even have dreamed of reaching before. There's still so much more to learn. There's still so much fun to be had in challenging myself against myself and coming out on top. And I don't think I would be where I am today if some random stranger hadn't been kind and said not only that I could do it, but that I could be someone great. (For context, I make VFX for video games :) At the time, my school didn't give any classes what-so-ever on this, everything I have today is self taught, and almost all technical knowledge that _should_ exist and have tutorial out there is not available on the internet. Everything I know to do now, every trick and loophole I've found in the node graphs I use to make what I need to is things I figured out on my own. Its terrifying and fun and I love it dearly)

@@Yohannai That's incredible! And wow, what an awesome field to work in :) We need more random strangers who care enough and are genuine & fearless enough to speak so openly and encouragingly.

This is a thing I've always wondered: how exactly do characters with cyborg prosthetics represent the disabled community? John Silver has a peg-leg, sure, but his robot arm seems significantly more capable than a human's. To the point that, if it wasn't for his leg, John would be straight-up physically superior to a baseline human. Which hardly seems like it represents the experience of disabled people.

@@tbotalpha8133 I agree his disability is more sci-fi than normal disabilities but still to have a character that doesn’t have both arms is unique. Silver may be judged because people put cyborgs in the enemy section of humanity and don’t take a chance to get to know them. Jim judges him at first but later warms to him because he shows a kindness he’s never been given by an older male, at least outside of his family

As a person who grew up without a dad because he abandoned me, I always appreciated it finally shown in a Disney movie. Yes, there were lots of absent dads, but they always died. It was never their choice to leave.

@@wijcik I’m so sorry about your dad, that must have been really hard for you. But I’m glad you were able to connect to this movie even if it is sad

@@AliAngelpie Ah, fair enough.

Yes, that, and what I also think, distraction for both himself and his mom. At least I have done that, there is some uncomfortable subject that needs addressing, but I don't feel like addressing it right then and there. So I avoid eye contact, also to hide my face and feelings I might show to the other person, and try to be like, "I'm doing something else right now, can we continue later, or never?" I wished they would have said something about that, and I'm glad someone else noticed it, too.

You guys have no idea how much this movie has, and still does affect my life in such a positive way. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, from one artist to another, THANK YOU!

The fact that this came out the same time as the *second* Harry Potter movie blows my mind. Somehow, Treasure Planet feels like it was way earlier than HP. My sense of time is now in shambles.

it gets worse!!! It was supposed to have a SEQUEL

@@IceMetalPunk I feel like a lot of people tend to forget this but yes it came out in 2002 which was the same year as Chamber of Secrets. The movie had no chance.

and don't forget that also around that same time, lotr: the two towers (another immensely popular fantasy movie) premiered almost 2 weeks after treasure planet. sadly, treasure planet (a beautiful and revolutionary film) never had a chance. i can't believe disney marketinf was so naive thinking they could go against both lotr and hp. but i guess in the end it doesn't matter. what makes a film truly special isn't how much money it makes, but how it truly touches a person inside and the loved ones who they share the film with

You're so welcome!

​@@CinemaTherapyShowYou guys should do "We are Marshell"

Yes you’re not the only one ! ❤️🤝

So very well said. And the song, "I'm Still Here" always gives me goosebumps because of its anthemic nature. This movie was so incredibly impactful for so many, many reasons. So glad it continues to be recognized for the great movie that it is!

Yeah its a really good film for boys. Not saying girls can’t enjoy it too but its clearly written for a audience of boys.

@@rojaws1183 one reason it is so important for young men is that it is one of the only coming of age stories for men that doesn't include a romantic interest for the male lead. At no point does Jim tie his worth to having a partner.

@@Ilithandie89 Good point. Edit: A sequel would have been a better place ro include a girl in Jims story. A shame we never got a sequel.

While your not wrong, As a girl who grew up with this movie, rewatching it over and over, I loved it more than my brothers. I wanted adventure and someone to encourage me like that. I didn't really have much of anyone seeing me like that, and this movie made me feel special. Sure, the main story may have male characters, but i feel like it speaks to anyone who needs to hear that. All kids need a good Parental figure who sees worth in you.

RIGHT I've been obsessing over Silver and the movie for a year now and it's still the best and most emotional thing ever to me. Even watching it a million times won't kill anything off.

I didn’t watch the movie in English as a kid, and the English voice a lot higher and with unexpected accent. I guess I am just used to something different however, but I don’t know how his villain scenes worked

"ugly"???

@@buttonasaslike when you cry your face gets all puffy and your nose runs and you make painful expressions and hiccup and stuff. It's not some beautiful tears running down your composed yet sorrowful face. It's not photogenic. Does that make sense?

@@emilyrln if the "painful expressions" can still incorporate a smile, it can't be that ugly :P I totally get it now, though, thanks!

That is so sweet 🥺 your dad sounds awesome

Anastasia is my favorite animated movie and treasure planet is my second ❤ small world

David is so wonderful! Glad you enjoyed the episode. Thanks for watching!

What David had to say literally brought tears to my eyes and got me to sub. ❤

@@SilencedBTMme too! Im crying rn!

Let's hope they never make a live action remake

It diverges from the Disney formula by not having a ham fisted love interest. It's something I love about it

At least it's in good company with Atlantis: The Lost Empire. Both of those movies are amazing but got left behind by The Mouse.

Hey, I hope you live a happy and safe life! Good wishes from an internet stranger

Thought he said he was asexual but biromantic? Hmm. Aroace is…aromantic and asexual right?

@@SusanaCanales1 You're right, but I think they were referring more to the community of aro, ace, and aroace people

We're so happy our videos have come at a good time for you and helped! Treasure Planet is definitely underrated. Enjoy!

Same here🥲 I was just thinking of me relating to Jim because of my ‘breaking free’ from the stresses of my life. We’re strong, you and me, I believe it

​@@CinemaTherapyShowsoooo underrated and it always reminds me of another underrated movie - Titan A.E. It would likely make a good episode on what happens when people give up on hope vs. those who don't in the aftermath of tragedy.

I was just thinking the same thing! For me it's discovering this need to balance stuff out. My adventureous side often pushed people away, but once I realized how lonely I felt most of my life, I've overcorrected as hell and almost bored myself to tears for few years in cozy little world of cute connections 😂 To discover just now that maybe my favourite film is just about that... so meaningful ❤

@@macdri that would be an amazing topic!! And could resurface that piece of Bluth’s! I always loved it, even if it did scare me as a kid and preferred Anastasia haha😅

It absolutely deserves it!

Shiver me timbers shiver my soul ❤

I LOVE Nimona!

My kid identifies as all the same things (although they are still unsure about the gender fluid). They are doing pretty well with it but as a demisexual myself, I know it is going to be tough at times in a culture that is obsessed with sexualizing every relationship. I am glad I had a friend in college that I suspect was ace and arrow, so I could know that this is not an impossibility. I really wish it wasn't so popular to change ace characters and historical figures into gay characters. While gay representation is important, so is asexual representation and it ends up feeling like asexual erasure. Have you heard of The Deed of Paksenarrion? If you are into reading and fantasy, it is a trilogy about an all around well developed female hero who is ace.

@@macdri Thank you. I am looking for ace rep and I am sometimes too tired too comb through every fantasy book to find a good one. I actually don´t know if I am maybe demisexual as well. I just haven´t met someone with whom I am emotionally bonding enough to feel sexual desire. Thank you very much for the comment.

@@MurderTurtle I cannot imagine people not loving Nimona except for Walshes or Shapiros.

late but agreed! we've met Sofie and Megan, and now David, (at least in the videos those I've watched so far) hoping to meet more people behind Cinema Therapy too❤

It's so underrated. Thanks for watching!

Seriously, one of Disney's best but they never gave it the love it deserved to really shine in the public eye.

Yay another biro ace!

another one reporting here! so nice to see some of us out here in the wild :))

Panro ace here!👋🏻

Biromantic demisexual. I could relate with that. Took until my late teens to start questioning what I had learned to make do with.

Ace aro agender here!

Glad you think so! You're so welcome!

I’m going to be honest a few years ago(~2015-17) I thought nonbinary aromantic and asexual were just people wanting to be unique in the dumbest way possible. mainly I lumped them in with people trying to cosplay/larp a sexual orientation that was just nonsensical. like the memed i sexual identify as an apache helicopters un-ironically. Now I know a good deal more about both and understand what they are thanks to following and watching a few lgbt creators like not so average fan girl. So a few years ago I would have likely thought you were just an uninteresting nobody who wanted to be unique co-opting the lgbt community. now it’s no longer relevant or proper to believe that sentiment

@@officialmilkman491 for me my brain is fucked in a way that i have to be able to understand a subject that goes against what i know. and as you might've guessed from my comment they were basically never properly explained/defined until i started watching elijah aka nsafg react to the owl house(believe it was her grom reaction because i remembered that she started reacting late season 1 onward. i was wrong she started reacting the episode after enchanting grom fright the grom reaction happened 2 years later). with her being a natural lgbt dictionary during the videos helped give merit to the explanation of non-binary(though i still do not have a full grasp of the term) and aromantic/asexual. though biromantic is a new one but thanks to said human dictionary i have a general idea what it could mean so that helps

I believe it came out at same time as a Harry potter movie which led to being pulled out of threaters quickly. Just a theory

I second this as an aroace

I third this as an aromantic

lol y'all just want to feel like quirky special snowflakes, asexuality doesn't exist. Just because you don't want to have sex with every stranger you think is attractive doesn't mean you're "asexual." It's just called being normal.

I fourth this as fellow aroace

To give Jonathan his due, he was adding inclusive language all the time before we hired David. He's just a good guy! But we do love David. In a lot of ways, he's the glue of the channel, glad you all get to finally meet him! -Alan

@@CinemaTherapyShow Oh, I never doubted that Jonathan is a great guy! He just seemed to have a lot of insight and not as many misunderstandings about what it means to be Aromantic and/or Asexual😊 Thank you for always making a great show💙

All of you alphabet gang care way too much about your orientations and identities, you do it in order to make yourselves feel special. It's an excuse to not have to develop a personality and you just pick something off of a shelf that you like or thing will win you oppression points. This self-centeredness and focus on components of your preferences is stupid and what's wrong with society. It's the epitome of first world problems. This hubris and pride aren't good things and Johnathan and and Alan need to stop enabling you all in this.

He wont sleep with you though.

@@cdogthehedgehog6923 weird comment but ok? I’m a lesbian and happily engaged so that wasn’t even something that crossed my mind, but pop off I guess? I just think he’s a nice dude and I was happy to see him on the show.

@@queendom7125 Yeah, but he wont sleep with you.

@@cdogthehedgehog6923 and I don’t want him to? Just because I have something nice to say about someone doesn’t mean I want to sleep with them. Honestly, that mindset isn’t healthy, definitely something you should talk to a therapist about. Hope you work out whatever is happening with you dude and make some actual connections with people 👍

@@queendom7125 Indeed, but that doesnt change the fact that he will not kick boots with you.

You're very welcome!