Original DOOM designer reacts to DOOM ETERNAL pt. 1 

Remember switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading

do a barrel roll!

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@@urbanshorty1670 No. * crouches behind you *

Did you know that bungee gum has the properties of both rubber and gum

In fact to me is better than Doom Eternal and more truthful to the original Doom, so definitively he should try it.

@@azathoz only for you)

@@Jormungand47 really? Tell me more.

@@Jormungand47 no

@@azathoz I think you didn't understand doom eternal, and I don't mean the story, I mean I think you didn't understand the gameplay

Probably not what he meant but this is one issue I had with Eternal compared to 2016 Doom. The constant farming for ammo and health took away much of the fun I had in Doom 2016. I THINK he would like 2016 more than Eternal because its more similarities with og Doom games

@@lucri988 they make you get ammo like that because they realized that it's more fun to do it that way let me explain in doom 2016 they had multiple ways to kill demons and most of the ways where almost as effective as the other in doom eternal you have to kill a enemy a curtain way which creates diversity and more fun for the player generally

@@brentbingham2513 OK I know those points and I disagree. I found doom 2016 being more fun and having more diversity. I didn't find ammo farming by spending time on walking ammo bags perticulary fun.

@@lucri988 I mean that's what I meant by generally most people enjoyed doom eternals way and some people didn't I was just explaining why they did it that way:/

@@brentbingham2513 Ah I see. Yes I understood why they did it the way they did =). And if some people liked Eternal more thats great. Not hating on anyone =)

that full speed being between 40 and 50mph

The funny thing is that Mario can’t even double jump.

@@etolbert3723 was about to comment exactly this lol

I like the double jump... but I see Sandy's point.

Way more than 200lb.. guns are heavy

I mean the crucible is the most badass thing ever created

"I have no idea why they have rib br- bones, but it looks cool."

and he *could* use whatever weapon he wants, but he chooses to use guns and chainsaws because he finds them cool within the lore lmao

Pfui. It's still lame and OBVIOUSLY it is from Mario originally.

@@ifeobasa5459 Bro hes not wrong

@Sandy Petersen The double jump is just a way to make The combat and platforming more engaging. I really dont care if its lame. I would rather prefer a lame and fun game instead of a boring and realistic one

Many gripes despite loving eternal but I will die on the hill of defending double jump and the platforming. GOTY

@@sandypetersen6935 The double jump is from Mario?? I'd say it is from Super Metroid.

@Tiaan Not in the original games at least. But they have tried a lot of movement schemes for Mario. It is part of how to keep the game fresh. A bit like how double jumping was added to doom to emphasize more vertical movement. ;) Personally I think it works in this Doom.

Lololol true

Heck. Actual jumping was added to Doom. It was not in the original. You could though your momentum travel over a small trench. Which was used in some level design. But there was no jump button in original doom. So if you are a real purist, then jumping should not be in the game either. ;)

slayer doesn't even double jump. in doom 2016 (prequel to doom eternal) in midgame you get a special boot with jet parts that allows you to "boost" instead of flying.

@@Cythil I don't remember double jumping in Mario

Notch be like

Not the biggest, but definitely one of the most important

Minecraft?

Gabe N:THE? Just one? Amateur

Better yet, imagine being able to say "my dad/my grandfather was on the team that made Doom"...

Sorry but he could in N64 super Mario and other games probably.

@@johncena1807 Don't even remember him double jumping in n64 lol, unless you mean the jump dive thing

Yeah, Mario never double jumped.

He can only do it in smash bros. along with all the other characters

@@johncena1807 he never did in n64 ..

not me! I had no idea that the chainsaw makes bullets.

@@SandyofCthulhu Understandable, it does defy logical thinking.

Me

@@SandyofCthulhu ...story wise they become objects of use per DoomGuy’s ability to survive and manipulate Hell’s energy for life, armor and keeping weapons full, lol.

@@SandyofCthulhu The best invention in the new Doom games is that you'll never need to break the flow and stop killing demons. You're low on health? Run away to find medpacks? No, go even more aggressive and go for glory kills. Low on ammo? Run around trying to find ammo? No, use chainsaw. Low on armor? Again go close and use the flamethrower. It's brilliant system.

Agreed.

What story? I was to busy making red mist to notice a story in doom 2016.

Story is optional and redundant in every Doom game.

No one cares about the story in nu-doom

One cannot double jump. Doesn't mean that you aren't allowed to roller skate your way with a rocket on your back like Wile. E Coyote.

Ngl it was kinda that

Yeah but what can you do. That's how old dads are.

@@Anon-te2bz You can't say it's not Doom. I get that changing the gameplay style affects your view. i don't really like to call the newer assasins's creed's "assasin's creeds" or whatever. But not calling doom 2016 and Eternal "Doom" is kind of ridiculous

Yeah that was kinda disappointing attitude ... I mean I get it. He has his style of designing and it was his original.... but still Doom eternal is a great game and fun to play. I wonder what he dislikes about double jumps, I think they are not that bad or unfun.

I disagree with the do called purists. When I was a kid playing doom in the 90's it was awesome. When doom 3 cave out I hated it. Hated it with a passion. Then when the brutal doom mod and project brutality mods came I loved them so very much. Doom 2016 was amazing but brutal doom was ever so slightly better for me. Doom eternal was almost perfect. My only real issue with doom is the story. It's just too much. Way too much going on. The original have was simple and that made your mission simple.

o hell i remember that movie i loved/still love it

i THINK he may be familiar with Hugo....

Or maybe that using a chainsaw in combat is even more obsolete than the spears he was complaining about

@@jame8266 Title should be "Boomer reacts to Doom Eternal"

@Sheev Palpatine If I were him I'd of likely been following every single new Doom that came out as that's his baby *as well as the gaming industry in general* , I almost can't even see this guy NOT staying up to date on gaming but evidently he hasn't; what I said really isn't even that rude either (world isn't full of sunshine and rainbows either bub-hes a grown ass man 👀), and he tediously shat on so many aspects of the game it's almost mind boggling-and honestly makes me think he might have some jealousy by how ridiculous & frequent the complaining was-plus his son is arguably the worst Doom player on the planet so it's no wonder his dad wasn't too jazzed about it.... He seriously had a problem with every-single-thing, even the cutscene when a Sentinal Mech hand blows open that wall, he actually had a problem with it as "that's not what hands do that doesn't even make sense!" Jesus it hurt my brain just to quote that.... I have immense respect for the work he did back in the day, I've played the OG Doom's more times than I can count, but this was just mental retardation I'm sorry 🤷

Realism was thrown out the window in the 90s when demons invaded Mars and a guy stopped them all while running at 90mph with a shotgun glued to the middle of his chest.

@@CommanderLongJohn I mean, Sandy did immediately say “I guess that makes as much sense as getting health back when you eat a ham sandwich, which is what we did.” So idk what you’re complaining about lol

Tbf the 3d models arent 1 to 1 they are defo inspired by the sprites but I understand what he is saying (plus he said that to one of the demons that wasn't in the originals)

I remember people using that argument against doom 3, and they were kinda right, in doom 3 the demons largely did look like aliens, and between the constant PITCH BLACK EVERYTHING and the shiny graphics seeing any sort of fine detail was impossible so it only made it worse. But doom 2016/eternal has demons that look demon enough to me.

I would say the platforming in 2016 is horrible, in Eternal you can fling past any section in less than 5 sec but in 2016 it was a chore.

Eternal has more in common w/ doom 1 & 2 than any of the other doom games

Yep, very true. If you switched out the way the enemies looked it would not be a doom game.

Gameplay wise it is very different but art style wise it is very similar to original games. Here is game director Hugo Martin saying Doom Eternal was deliberately more like originals and more like 90s style arcade shooter visually. Doom 2016 was more similar to Doom 3 visually. Explaining change in art style - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fzJFBVSUylU.html Designing the enemies - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uzX09_4hcPc.html

@@fuckso2342 eh, sort of. The closest things in the whole game are the enemies, a lot of the art looks totally different however i do think the Art in the original doom 2 was kind of lacking and didnt exactly feel like earth anyway.. but once again this new doom game falls a bit behind in level design.. not enough open field areas , its still mostly corridors like doom 3. D00M was originally about speed and large areas with height to move around in. Doom 64 was more like the D00m 3 we should have gotten and still had similar design. I may make some videos further explaining my points. these new games go for the wow factor and seem more like arcade style games then spooky scary and fast paced. the Original Dooms were satanic Action Scifi movies, the new ones are like alien tomb raider karate movies.

Well I'm sure any hiccups in the latest Doom pale to the very original version we sent out in 1993 which shut down college networks across the nation. We did manage to fix it pretty quick but ouch. We just didn't realize how many people would be playing Doom via network.

@@SandyofCthulhu lol that sounds alot worse than the Anti cheat fiasco

@@SandyofCthulhu Doom caught the 1990's society by surprise in more ways than one. Your creation in part gave a push to advance the technology. Made me by a faster modem, personally..

thanks!

What???

@@Corn0nTheCobb many of the song's in classic Doom were named after the developers. The song "Into Sandy's City" was named for Sandy Petersen.

Read what you said slowly

Into Sandy's City also happens to have the best stage music in video game history.

To be fair to Sandy though, Doom Eternal is incredibly fast paced and his tenure with ID was years ago, so it's I feel like it's understandable he might have missed that - especially since he didn't even know Doom 2016 existed. Or, it's possible he did notice but just felt there were more important topics to talk about. I mean, with a few notable changes such as a smaller eye the cacodemon is pretty similar to the original and he didn't really take the time to say "hey, that remains pretty true to our original art style", so I suppose it's very plausible that he did notice but just felt it wasn't important enough to bring up. But I agree, it would have been good to hear his thoughts on that.

Yeah I think that's is right

Yeah and commander keen dad is bj from Wolfenstein,when i first time know this its so mind blowing

@@iNIMATEstudio no, Keen is the grandson of BJ

@@iNIMATEstudio William J. Blazkowicz II (Billy Blaze) is the grandson of the great W.W.II hero William J. ... His descendents in the future were B.J. Blazkowicz and Stan Blazkowicz. He took his name from one of his grandfather's buddies from WWII, who was named Commander Keen. here some information

That's nothing. The _really_ crazy thing is that Doomguy was already 3 years old by Keen 3. The Blazkowicz clan are stone cold lady slayers ;)

*YES*

@Sheev Palpatine Sandy is mormon, if I recall correctly

I wish I was there with Sandy to explain this stuff to him because we would see in many ways how they evolved the classic mechanics for a modern age.

Agreed. We do talk more later on, but I wanted him to experience it for himself.

Omg he needs to react to SmvR

@@lincolnpetersen6229 just gameplay wise, he's incredible.

@@TheStrayHALOMAN Same, I wish I could've been there to say stuff like "Hey, the chainsaw will give you ammo and it recharges, Use it frequently, but only on small demons! But if you have 3 charges, you can chainsaw a big demon and get Max ammo!"

One of the many ways Eternal was a terrible sequel. It just doesn't make any sense.

@@beef623 it makes fine sense.

@@beef623 eternal was leagues better than any doom game

He ain't wrong doe, mans playing on hurt me plenty and getting jumped by 3 of the weakest type of fodder in the very first area 😂😂😂

I came to comment this. He seems to be complaining about a lot of stuff for the sake of it

Matthew Challacombe true that.

"Based on", but altered in a way that looks more like aliens. When working on Doom (2016), id was very inspired by Pacific Rim.

Dude I INVENT$ED the Mancubus and Pain Elemental.

@@SandyofCthulhu you should do a video comparing all the og demons from doom eternal to the originals!

i just scrolled through the comments because i got a bit annoyed by his negative attitude and when i was half way through your sentence i notice him starting to tell that story lol

I think we have three of these.

thanks!

YES

Ive been scouring all of Sandy's videos for comments from Civvie lol. so far no luck

I caught that to,the man can be critical I he wants but he obviously respects it.and if he doesn't who ives a shit, the man's a legend hecan say what he wants. I love this video. The trolling is top flight.

Barely sounds like he's trolling, he just sounds like he's nitpicking pointless shit. He sounds like the annoying nerdy backseat gamer who tells you that you're playing the game wrong.

@@muertolamento ikr. Although this may be we have to give him some credit for making a lot of the original doom game. Modern fps would not be as good if it was not for doom. Good comment tho.

@@muertolamento I think you re a little defensive

Did we even watch the same video? He keeps going on about how a ton of the new stuff is cool.

There's some funny back and forth with him and John Romero on twitter

He might be the worst Doom player I've seen.

@@bretwilliams249 **sad game journalist sounds**

@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 ryan from ign plays pretty well and so do most, its only dean that plays that bad

I'm not sure I like the sound of "Lovecraftpilled" ...

Lovecraft's cat

@@HugoStiglitz88 lmao

this man... sandy... in my opinion... should be forgotten to time.

@@James-iu2km You and your weird comments all over this comment section should be forgotten. What the hell are you even doing? I can't even tell if you're trolling or not, like if I attempted to troll, I wouldn't even be able to make such weird stuff up you're posting here.

@@HardwareFahrrad Chill Holmes.

@@BigWheel. I mean I can't remember not being chilled while posting these comments.

There's so much technology differences compared to when he made games to the tech now days and its so complex now I doubt he couldn't even make a game now like think about it the last time this guy worked on a game was when games were still just flat levels and small rooms and aiming and movement were connected lol this guy has no idea what game design takes now

@@xUseTheForks well he did work on Quake which was 3d but I get your point and I dislike the way he throws shade at Eternal the whole time.

@@oddgbmo3036 yeah that got old real quick. Yes we get it, you made the first one. We are grateful but no reason you can't appreciate the new one for what it is.

@@Elitex22 what?

@@oddgbmo3036 him throwing shade at eternal the whole time got old

really? Because my lead artist on my game Planet Apocalypse was Keith Thompson, who did a lot of the art concepting for Pacific Rim.

@@sandypetersen6935 Oh cool, that's a neat coincidence. Hugo Martin is the name of the guy for these new Dooms

@@shade221 That's some real Boomer energy right there. It's called developing and learning

Yeah, since when has Doom ever been about realism or function? Most of the time, the map design in OG Doom was extremely abstract and nonsensical.

Thats what I'm saying they literally are a detailed 3d model of the old doom 1993 and doom 2 doom I know he is one of the dev's on og Doom but I feel like he don't know as much as it seems about doom

@@DrizzyBo1 He was probably just thrown off by all the normal mapping, bloom, and other effects on the demons, and I'm pretty sure this is his first look at Doom Eternal period, so he's not looking at screen shots, he couldn't recognize them because everything moved so fast.

lame.

@@SandyofCthulhu Yeah, it's a bit uninspired. I get why people like it tho.

@Dill Pickle ok boomer

@Dill Pickle Nah, he is the guy that Dungeons & Dragons and Warhammer ripped off a lot.

@@SandyofCthulhu NAH MAN IT'S SICK AS.

And DOOM Eternal

Yea, Eternal is a lot more lore-intensive. Don't get me wrong, that isn't a bad thing, but it definitely makes it feel a bit different

@@KikiCatMeow I think it's the complete opposite. Eternal is just combat, 2016 actually had a decent story and lore.

@@jetthejudge nah. That’s just wrong. Doom eternal went way more into the lore than 2016

@D_ans I definitely did, the game is just not as good. It's primarily because it's made by singular leadership rather than a dual leadership and it shows with the ruining of characters like Samuel Hayden and VEGA.

Nope.

I really hated Doom 3 for some reason. Painkiller had neat big mosnters back in the day though.

@@SandyofCthulhu I always pictured it like it was more of a Quake game.

@@SandyofCthulhu What do you think about first 2 Serious Sam games from 2001 and 2002? Painkiller was inspired by Serious Sam even.

Yes I know. It was explained to me. It's still idiotic. Imagine what a sudden boost from boot rockets would ACTUALLY do. You'd tumble every which way uncontrollably. Plus it's not like the designers thought, Ooh let's give him rocket boots. No they said, "he needs to double jump. How can we justify this?"

You would only tumble if your rocket boots didn't point straight down, its the same thing with all rockets. Besides, the slayer is a divine being, its in the lore of doom eternal. The bible say's Jesus walked on water, that makes even less sense then the double jump. - Without double jump and dash the game would be slow and boring. Thats my justification and video games exists to let us do thing we cant do in real life like the double jump. If you want it realistic then go watch movie! Games are supposed to be fun first of all, if you need to bend and change physics then so be it. Like after you shoot the surface of mars, you jump on debris in space... There shouldnt be gravity there but if there was no gravity the game would be lame and not fun.

Sandy of Cthulhu you have problem with a double jump because is unreal but you are totally fine when the doomguy running at 76 km/h and use a wood chainsaw for fight demons? I’m a lot confused. In any case as Metroid fan, double jump is super cool

@@SandyofCthulhu you want realism from a doom game? Even in the original doom games he ran at full speed even when near death at 1% health and carried so many weapons that even a augmented space marine would be horribly encumbered. Even the current devs have said, its a game, have fun with it, don't try to overthink it.

@@jzay1899 Dude I was there in the original doom game. I don't demand realism. I would like any non-realism to remain in the background and not punch me in the face. The run speed in the old doom wasn't usually noticed - you just ran. And since you only carried one weapon at a time, the huge arsenal wasn't noticed. Double-jumping immediately and obviously violates the rules of physics PLUS it makes you mentally associate your guy with Mario instead of a manly warrior.