Why Is Doom Like That? 

But why doesn't Into Sandy's City play in your city map?

Holy crap, Sandy Petersen has a RU-vid channel? How the heck did RU-vid not deem this relevant to my interests for the past 2 years? Thanks so much for the first person insight on Dooms creation Sandy!

It's amazing to see that legends like Sandy and Romero are still very active in the Doom community after so many years :)

Hi Sandy, hope you're doing well.

I love the random reverb on his voice.

The reason that Doom broke networks is that Carmack used the IPX broadcast packet that is supposed to announce network topology changes (Like if a new computer is plugged in, if a switch goes offline, etc). Broadcast packets are supposed to be received, and forwarded to every listener, so as each player was added it increased the amount of chatter exponentially. This is what happens when game programmers write network code without understanding the paradigms :) A patch was issued to have updates sent as discrete packets to each player, not broadcast to the entire network

I just want to say - pistol starting Doom has given me such a renewed appreciation for those old levels. I’ve played Doom on and off since ~1997, but I only started pistol start since 2021. I have missed out! It’s so much fun finding the best route based on weapon progression, and I see the care and craft that went into that part of the design.

For the record, I really like the "find the weapons in a hostile world" puzzle design which a player encounters when they're pistol-starting the levels. It's kind of odd how for a decade I didn't even know that that game mode existed, and now it's my favorite way to play.

"OOH... and speaking of the Pain Elemental..." *sandy's head explodes and 2 lost souls appear*

Hey Sandy. The first time I fought the Spider Mastermind, I pistol-started and ended up killing her with the pistol after using up all the ammo scattered through the level. Really intense stuff. Stellar level, well done!

Sandy Peterson? Dude is a legend, and we owe just as much praise to this man as the 2 Johns, thank you sir, for all your work.

"The Lost Soul we now all know and love." That's seriously overstating it, Sandy.

I think the cacodemon never got a model because i believe its sprite was edited from the head of the astral dreadnought art from a D&D book.

2:19 I remember being impressed with Quake and telling my friend that you could see the corpses from all angles. That was amazing to me. This was great, I love hearing the "war" stories about games I love.

"So now you know... the Mancubus isn't talking about your mom, he's just a pig." This is exactly why I watch your channel, Sandy. You're always so full of wonderful, fun, interesting, and funny information about all kinds of things connected to Horror and Lovecraft. As always, thank you so much. :)

Speaking of deathmatch, I remember my engineer student friends hooked up 4 computers so we could play DOOM. It was like magic.

*Sandy Petersen:* "A ranged invisible enemy might be problematic." *Descent developers:* "Hold my beer."

Gregor Punchatz did an amazing job on building the latex models. He's a ridiculously talented monster maker. All you guys are. Rip & Tear~

You guys changed my life back in Middle School, I will be forever grateful

I love your "Dead Simple" map, "MAP07," and Bobby Prince's "Shawn's Got the Shotgun" piece that goes with it.

I'd be super curious what Sandy thinks about some of the player-designed maps that have come out since Doom's original release since he was so involved in much of the original level design. There's so much incredible creativity and detail as Doom mapping has evolved over the decades.

Feels like I've died and am receiving the secrets of life

I truly think this is why Doom's artwork stands up so well compared to most other sprite-based games of the day, that they used images of something "really" there. It's like movies that used models in the 70s and 80s versus pure early CGI of the 90s and how one holds up but not the other. It made Doom age extremely well throughout the years.

Doom 1993 is still my most favorite game of all time

3:20 holy cow all I can pay attention to is the onslaught of Pinky Demons and I'm getting anxiety

I for one think Map24 The Chasm is a great change of pace from the rest of the game and an awesome high-concept challenge. I think the hate it gets is rather silly. If it wasn't hard it wouldn't be fun! And other than Map28 The Spirit World it's the coolest looking level in Doom 2. Love the Doom stories. It's no surprise at all you playtested with UV pistol starts, because your maps in particular are perfectly balanced for them.

Wouldn't mind hearing about Downtown and The Chasm. I've seen an early draft of Downtown among some developmental material Romero published a half dozen years ago, featuring wharfs/docks at the back of the level rather than alleyways. Also, I like The Chasm, for what it's worth.

I always thought the mancubus was saying "on your mark" Additionally for some reason I though the death cry of an arch vile was "oh my hemorrhoid"😅

Played DOOM back in the 90s when I was a kid, and started playing Call of Cthulhu in high school. Still gaming was the same group all these years later. Funny how I didn’t realize what an influence Sandy Peterson was on my life, even if it was a small part :)

Love this video, Sandy! In particular that story about the networking contractor who scammed you is wild! The fact that Carmack got it working in time is testament to that guy's raw programming talent.

Hi sandy, hope you're doing well

So, regarding the difference in sales between Doom 1 and 2, my personal story is this: I live in Sweden, and my first exposure to Doom was through the shareware version distributed on CDs. I believe I had one disc that was distributed for free at an expo of some sort, and another that came with a computer or gaming magazine. I was literally 9 years old at the time, and had no idea what that mail order stuff meant, but eventually I saw the fancy cardboard box for Doom II sitting on a shelf in a home electronics store managed by one of my dad's friends and got that, assuming that "Hell on Earth" and "The Shores of Hell" were somehow the same thing. It didn't take too long for me to be proven wrong, though, as someone eventually handed me a CD called "EasyStart" with a bunch of pirated games (a concept I didn't understand at the time) including the full version of Doom. I don't think I ever saw the boxed store version of The Ultimate Doom for PC, but I did buy boxed copies of every other id PC game from Doom II (1994) through Doom 3 (2004), plus Quake IV (2005) if you count that. It wasn't until 2006 that I got my first legit copy of Doom 1, through the 2006 QuakeCon pack on Steam.

Carmack trully is a genius at progamming, and you are an incredible designer, Mr. Petersen! For just basically six people to pull such an incredible game amazes me every time.

Thank you for what you made! Doom has been an important part of my life for close to 30 years now. I'm glad that it's still relevant, through the new games, and that the originals still enjoy a thriving mod scene. The original game series is such a handcrafted piece of art, and those little "artist marks" you see everywhere in the assets and levels make you feel so involved in the creative process of the games. It's the heavy metal of games, before the heavy metal scene blew up; indie, innovative, and powerful. Doom is like your favorite B-movie where the passion and creativity of a small team of artists radiates from every aspect of the production. Doom is like your favorite first album you were listening to before the band became superstars. I love that you and other creators are still talking about how you made the game, and there are still stories to tell about how this legendary series was made. From a lifelong fan, a sincere and heartfelt thank you!

The guys that built Doom including Sandy are my heroes. They are single handlingly responsible why I wanted to learn about computers. Also they helped open a new door in my head, which led me to explore the fanatic world of PC gaming. You guys will forever be Giants in my eyes. Hearing you guys open up about the development process of Doom is like hearing a story of a fantastic legend, but it's all true.

Subscribed instantly when I realized you had your own channel! Your resume reads like a best-sellers list of all of my favorite childhood games and always loved your unique style of level design (tricks and traps for example is objectively the greatest Doom map ever). Thanks for helping make the golden age of PC gaming shine a little brighter.

You guys did a fantastic job. Amazing considering the restraints and limitations at the time. A few days to write network-code from scratch is completly insane. When it comes to levels, weapons, enemies, multiplayer, graphics, sound, music, gameplay and mechanics in generel, you guys set a whole new standard. In a lot of ways, Ultimate Doom toghether with Doom 2 has never really been topped.

the fact that the og id software people are still around, and are socially active, i find that interesting and fun to know, why the fun to know part? they might be able to show modern doom modders some of the things that made the core of dooms levels (either doom 1 or 2) cause im sure there are many things that modern day doomers are doing wrong that make the og id guys cringe

Sandy. Thank you. You helped make something special, and it will always be special. You changed my life.

I just want to say how cool it is that in this day and age we can interact directly with people who contributed in a major way to our childhood - I never could have imagined it!

7:06 That was the thing I noticed on E2M7 that I found really cool, in the start of the level the lighting comes from the door and makes a band of floor brighter, it's interrupted by the pillar in the corner so there is another darker sector behind to create the illusion of shadow. That starting view made E2M7 very memorable to me (and the rest of the level, I personally love it, even though many people in the Doom community don't have it in high regard as far as I know) 8:48 I hated that secret, it was on MAP27: Monster Condo. It took me so long (and opening Doom Builder to inspect) to find this one. Whenever I play a map, I don't just rush to the next area. I make sure I clear everything from the beginning area. It was highly unlikely that playing this map I would ever avoid a lot of the starting areas and rush to the next big area (with the arrow in the wall) in less than 30 seconds. Btw,. there are some other mysterious triggers that I don't know where they were use, for example one that says "After 5 minutes, door opens and then closes". I know this one was used in Eternal Doom (A 1996 megawad, not the modern commercial game) in MAP05 where a computer monitor greets you, it says "come back to me after 5 minutes". So at least they let you know this time ;)

me: "THE DEMONS ARE DODGING MY BULLETS!" John Carmack: "No that's just my bad ai"

I remember playing doom when it came out...I was 8 or 9. I would watch my dad and brothers play it too. My neighbor was really good at it and beat the game and showed us the ending. Classic 90 stuff.

So you're telling me that *this guy* is the Sandy guy from the "Into Sandy's City" song? Woa... so cool. So informative! Especially the process to create the sprites. Really glad RU-vid recommended it

Sandy thanks so muchfor this, I love hearing all these bits about the history of a game I grew up playing! You guys literally laid the foundations for games I play and enjoy today!

So strange... This guy made his mark on most parts of my childhood. Thanks!

Thanks Sandy! You are amazing!!!

Love to your role in history, I've heard a whole bunch of people talk about your contributions over the years but its nice to hear the details from the horses mouth :) Great stuff Sandy, so cool

What I think is really cool is that your original idea for the lost souls actually ended up getting into the official Legacy of Rust expansion!

To be precise, Adrian made the clay models, while iD commissioned the latex models to Gregor Punchatz (you can find his channel on YT where he uploaded a video where he shows the Spider Mastermind's original mold here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fz2Ex-3UWZg.html ).

I didn't know Sandy Peterson had a youtube?! That is awesome.

Jusr remember this. . . The Chasm map might be one of the most hated map designs in Doom history. . . But I bet it blew everyone away back then in the 90s. 😌 Thank you guys for everything and for the greatest video game ever! 💞

Man, I feel like a groupie. Your maps were the SOUL of Doom.

I'd like to know who thought up the Archvile. There's so much to that Denon. The way it sets you on fire when it sees you, it's cackle, the way it resurrects other monsters. Definitely my favourite

I'm so glad I found this channel, I'm just eating up everything you've been talking about from D&D to game development (when I was in college I realized I wanted to be a video game designer, but that passion slowly left me after I graduated and I got into MMA - I still have those creative passions every now and then though).

Came to this channel via RU-vid recomendations... I can't believe this is Sandy Petersen! Man, your Call of Cthulhu game made me... it really entertained me for years! Congratulations you are still in the biz and kicking!

amazing behind the scenes commentary on how Doom was made.

Thanks for all your hard work Sandy. I play the original Doom to this day, which is a true testament to how good the design is...it's timeless. If I could rewind to 1993 and imagine that one day I could thank one of the developers via the internet, it would blow my mind.

Fascinating stuff Sandy. Thanks for sharing.

Sandy, WHEN will you be blessing us with new maps? Even just one would be awesome!

This is Fascinating! Thanks for sharing!!

Thank you Sandy Petersen

My Tech Ed class in high school might as well have been Doom Deathmatch 101. Great memories!

Nothing can possibly top Romero's story about the Icon of Sin.

Hey, Sandy, I just want to say thank you for being part of the team that created this franchise. My dad introduced me to Doom when i was 3 years old and taught me for to play. i have wonderful memories of us taking turns on the pc everytime when either us us died or pass to the next level. We still play the game and nevere stopped. i'm 25 now and i play doom almost on a daily basis the same with my dad. there is a wholesome irony that i know teach him how to play it on the switch. it never gets old for us.

Awesome story man, I'm glad doom 1 and doom 2 were created by you guys.

Decino did an amazing job with his doom sounds RU-vid video showing that the Mancubus came from stock pig sound effects. Sadly though a lot of sounds from Doom 1 and 2 are still unknown or missing, which makes it hard for the HD sound mod guy to find them.

It's really cool how you make these videos for the fans. Thank you Sandy!!

Really awesome stuff you put out Sandy. You might just be the last guy open to talking about the development of Doom, the death threats are definitely something I've never heard from anyone else lol.

I love those tiny (fun) facts and postmortem stories about games I love - especially Doom. I can't get enough of this stuff.. Thank you Sandy!

This is great! Thank you Uncle Sandy! Please share more Doom developer stories.

To us in Australia we thought it sounded like the Mancubus was saying “Undie Bum”. Undies is slang for jocks (underwear) so undie and bum went well together.

Love how the networking part came about

This is so great! Doom2 is the only game for me. I can’t imagine how good it could have been if the team had more time. It’s an honor to have found this channel

I can never get tired of hearing about D00M

Hey Sandy! Big fan, Love hearing your stories and learning more background about my favorite game.

You guys are legendary. I really appreciated how simple yet complex your levels were

man i love hearing people who worked on classics just talk about it like this. it's so fascinating to learn about. thanks for the video dude, i really enjoyed it

Hi Sandy I learned about you from Civvie-11's series about Doom and I just wanted to say how you seem like the most down to earth guy out of that original Id group. Without knowing I've been a fan of yours for years and it's a delight to hear your stories!

This was just fantastic! Thank you for sharing this nostalgic gold. :-)

These kind of stories are invaluable to understand how video games are *actually* made. Thank you for sharing. I subed in hopes that you do more talks like this.

I just want to say thanks, DooM is one of my favourite games - it's had such a massive impact on me and I still enjoy playing it all these years later.

So much fun to hear from peeps that basically locked me into videos games when I was a young lad :D

You were part of the doom team? You are an instant hero to me. Thank you so much for getting me through college :) Absolutely loved it then and love it equally now.

Omg this is awesome, so cool to know you have a channel where you share this info!

It sounds like you were really good to work alongside, Sandy. I'm glad I found your channel!

Thanks for what you guys at Id did especially in those early days. Doom was an epic part of my childhood.

12:00 So glad you guys got Deathmatch in and working well by the time it released! Doom was a true pioneer in international multiplayer gaming!

Oh man what a treat! Someday when I'm retired and old I will still remember DOOM - retirement homes are in for a shock in 15-20 years :D I still remember playing coop with a school buddy and little brother, one of them fired a rocket at an imp but I got it first with a shotgun blast. Rocket flew right over the imp and blew my face to ribbons! We all went into a massive laughing fit - legendary games by legendary people.

This video is GOLD. Nothing can top DOOM/DOOM2. No other game has left a deeper impression on me than DOOM/DOOM2 which are truly masterpieces. This video got my blood pumping so hard.

I actually like The Chasm, fond memories of playing Doom 2, thank you Sandy Petersen

Sandy, would you want to appear in an upcoming FPS documentary? Romero and Tom Hall are on board so far. Would be nice to have you as well!!! I noticed memories are starting to fade for most of you id guys, time happens to us all, this is the perfect time for all of you tell the story in the best FPS documentary to date!!!

I knew Sandy worked on DOOM, but I had no idea he made so much other stuff! And was on youtube! This man made so much of my childhood!

I always heard the mancubus chanting ”on your mind!” when it launched the fireball attack

Would love to see more videos of you breaking down the maps you made!

doom was released the same year as me. i used to always play it at my grandparents house doom 95 windows 95 keyboard control only with ....no speakers. i never knew what the monsters sounded like until 10 years later :) . even now im playing a modded version of doom and i always say that. you make a game easy to mod. it'll stay alive for years to come.

You made the Pain Elemental? You bastard!!

Decino did a really good look into Doom's sounds if your interested. Mancubus is clearly a pig slowed down.

You're a really talented designer - props for having your influence shape cult classics.

That Chasm gameplay was fun to watch, lots of dying and I noticed some triggered shaking, which is funny.