Orion Cobalt CB4500.1D Amp Dyno and Unboxing

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Orion has been hitting home runs lately with the XTR and HCCA lines... but had some misses in the Ztreet and Cobalt lines... Orion revamped the Cobalt line for 2018, but removed the RMS ratings... What's up with that! In this video we will find out the truth of the CB4500.1D and find out how much power you get for $169 from Orion!
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@alphaomega8373 6 лет назад

As a fan of Orion please discontinue the Cobalt and Zstreet line or give real rating. It hurting the brand.

@troubleship6064 6 лет назад

Alpha Omega z street should have never even started

@nicholascortez728 6 лет назад

If they just list the actual RMS numbers and ditch the max I agree they would be at least respectable entry-level amps as far as the Cobalts go. But the market that they're targeting with these kind of amps doesn't really look past what the max power slapped on the front of the boxes. It's not really an excuse for them to do it cuz yeah it does damage the Branded makes people doubt whether the xrt or the hcca are actually doing the numbers they claim which every time they've been tested they meet and exceed their ratings but that's the gray area you run into with a lot of these budget hiwatt amps.

@Finga_Trappa 5 лет назад

Alpha Omega who ever was in charge of that OP just fucked it allll right the fuck up... lol Ztreet Cobalt... bologna

@treynathaniel4075 5 лет назад

I could understand a couple hundred watts off but 3k? fukin gahbage

@rhurtadorh32 5 лет назад

I just bought a orion xtr2500 i was undecided between the xtr and the hifonics bxx4000 any toughts Thanks in advance

@crazy8sdrums 6 лет назад

Thank you Ryan. This amp seems to still represent the Cobalt line pretty fairly and accurately.

@msh6865 4 года назад

The Orion Cobalt brand has always been their entry-level series. Nothing wrong with having a beginner line for those who cannot or do not want to spend more money on the HCCA or XTR series. Not everyone wants to wall off their vehicle and run 16 subs. The problem here...and with most all manufacturers these days is the MAX WATTAGE nonsense. It has actually gotten worse in recent months. If Orion had rated this amplifier 500 watts @ 4 ohms, 1000 watts @ 2 ohms and 1500 watts @ 1 ohm, people would have stood up and said THANK YOU ORION for telling the truth. No one...and I mean NO ONE buying this amp for $179 or whatever the msrp is, really expects it to produce 4500 watts. Why play this silly game Orion???

@anthonyfejeran1891 6 лет назад

For the price, it's about where it should be. For someone just getting in to car audio it would be OK. Then they learn from there like we all did. The first amp I purchased was an American legacy 2000. I had no idea what 2000 watts was suppose to do back then. Probably only squeezed out 400 tops but hey, I had bass lol. Another great video as always.

@GHOSTGHOST-jw1mi Год назад

Yup we all learn the hard way

@wal 6 лет назад

I don't like these max ratings either, but I love that Fluke clamp with remote display! I be getting one of those!!

@robsorgdrager8477 6 лет назад

BigDWiz ohhhhhhhh big d is bitting Blankenship s style!!! Dang sonyin !!! 😁

@travisjones1886 6 лет назад

BigDWiz I just saw u post u got it on Instagram lol

@wal 6 лет назад

Worth the coin to save time!

@travisjones1886 6 лет назад

BigDWiz damn right!

@robsorgdrager8477 6 лет назад

BigDWiz worth the " DIME " to save the time......I love my fluke clamp. Now that I work on Volvo it comes in very handy.

@robland6118 6 лет назад

Thanks for the video Ryan. I'm always tuned in and will support ur channel. I have been watching since ur very first videos. U hit the nail right on the head predicting what numbers and power it put out. I wasn't real impressed with the amp itself though. Rate it what it is. That's what they need to do. Doesn't even do half it's rated power. 1400 watt amp is all it is. Thanks man.

@catch22frubert 6 лет назад

Ryan Blankenship I was impressed with the efficiency, but they couldn't even bother to give the actual specs in the manual? I'm ok with it being a 1400-1500 watt amp, but having zero accurate info is very troubling. What is the average person supposed to do? Guess the RMS wattage?

@travisjones1886 6 лет назад

Ryan Blankenship what about the ignite amps on amazon? Feelings on them?? 70 bucks and three fuses I can’t tell which ones

@thenotoriousrvh6091 6 лет назад

I've said it many times before. I like to call the max pwr number the ILS power "If Lightening Struck" it. 😂 Another good test 👍

@WeSRT4 6 лет назад

Cyber Trucker Road Show This looks more like what we call ILS2 ratings. If lightning strikes twice.

@crazy8sdrums 6 лет назад

Orion used to make their stuff here in Phoenix. They even had a street named after them in Tempe. I lived in a home not even a mile from there. They have since offshored everything, which is truly unfortunate. :/

@alphaomega8373 6 лет назад

had to or the 2500.1 would be 700 bucks instead of 330.

@volleyballjerry 2 года назад

@@alphaomega8373 - I would have paid the extra money for American made since it meant impeccable quality. You get what you pay for. Products from China are hit or miss and most car audio amplifiers are junk.

@brandonadams120 Год назад

Love your videos always well explained

@jorgem50 6 лет назад

1400rms @1ohm for $169 is not that bad.

@mattarnold3847 4 года назад

Was thinking the same but bothers me when they over rate shit the cobalt line is just covered in lies and BS

@docgray5004 3 года назад

Orion is usually rated better. As someone else mentioned it's bad for the brand to overrate so drastically. That's why I'm here. I'm no longer interested in buying an amp without seeing a dyno.

@overpricedsundown 3 года назад

@@docgray5004 facts i dont trust words on a piece of paper anymore

@volleyballjerry 2 года назад

@@docgray5004 If you have the money go with the HCCA series. Expensive but worth it. [I have two]. The XTR series should also be decent and do not go by some of the negative reviews on Amazon. Most of the one star ratings are from obsessive bassheads and I can tell they almost certainly made installation mistakes. "This amp will not drive a pair of 2-ohm 12" subs in parallel". Well, guess what? A pair of 2-ohms speakers in parallel is an overall impedance of *1* ohm! I mean how freaking loud does it really need to be? This amp *will* drive 1 ohm fine. But you just would not get 4500 watts out of it. If you need that get more amps and more subs. I mean, really!

@gilmartorres5718 Месяц назад

you're right

@evilmonstertruck 6 лет назад

Thanks for these Ryan. Your doing a great service

@jerroldallen5927 6 лет назад

I’d get a fosgate prime 1200 before I would even look at that amp, keep up the good work and keep us informed

@bearxbunny1835 4 года назад

I absolutely love Rockford amps, not a real big fan of their subs but the amps (especially the power series) are legendary, and that's putting it lightly

@bearxbunny1835 4 года назад

@um me You have obviously NEVER owned a RF amp cuz you would never say that if you did

@bearxbunny1835 4 года назад

@um me Did we have a convo that I don't remember having??? Cuz I said not a damn thing about Orion amp...... You said "fosbreak huh" insinuating that Rockford products break quick (which that couldn't possibly be further from the truth) but I said nothing about Orion

@paulcherry1520 2 года назад

I have a Rockford p1000pd from 2002 and that bitch is still slamming

@volleyballjerry 2 года назад

Rockford Fosgate is now at the top of my list and Orion and Soundstream have dropped down several notches overall in terms of the brand. Thirty years ago, it did not matter which Orion or Soundstream amp you were installing. All of them were incredibly good. Now you have to really research because some of their product lines absolutely suck. Rockford Fosgate has three lines (Prime, Power, and Punch) and all of them are very good. Pioneer has always been mid-market for the last four decades but they remain consistent and their equipment has been steady. Great value but NOT junk. Check out Audio Control. Finally after three decades they are doing amplifiers and they are pulling no punches. Finally, if it is available at Walmart, you can expect cheap but not necessarily that good without verifying. This channel is a huge help to assist making decisions.

@tatert.v.9908 6 лет назад

Hey Ryan was wondering if u could get ahold of any kenwood and alpine amps just interested to see if either companys meetnor exceed their ratings. Thanks man

@billythomas9434 6 лет назад

Wow it amazes me that a company like Orion is doing something like that like you said that’s boss audio level shit.... crazy man

@justanotherguitarplayer9767 6 лет назад

Where do they get the "4500 watts" from, when it only does 1/3 of the power it says... I don't get why all companies can't just be honest with their ratings instead of overinflating numbers and making shit up.. Thanks for the vids man, they're always good to watch 👍

@timgermanyjr 6 лет назад

bassAce because they have customers online who are looking at pyramid and boss amps that say 4000 on the box. If they rate them properly they won't sell.

@randomtube8226 6 лет назад

I guess that there are more people who dont care then do. Clueless people think that they are getting a good deal. When in reality they are getting ripped off. They target the clueless people to make more sales. I dont know how. Because lying never gets anyone anywere. Once the clueless people learn the truth. They will lose faith in the company. That will come back and hurt them in the long run.

@timgermanyjr 6 лет назад

Random Tube most of the people buying these amps will never know.the difference. Other like us become aware and then avoid certain amps. No biggie. And 150 bucks for a 1400 watt amp isn't exactly getting ripped off. It might mean noobs clip the hell out of their sub and blow em.

@davef.566 5 лет назад

They get that 4500 rating from 20 volt input to 10% thd lol

@shawnconnolly5525 6 лет назад

I bought a $150 dollar fleemarket SPL 4,500 watt amp and it had my 4 sundown audios flexing my windshield and roof of the car - I could even see my shirt move while I was outside the car next to the window 💯

@travisj.1938 5 лет назад

Came with a sticker! STOP the Test! No further info needed, Def a budget gem.

@01hondascott 4 года назад

i am putting together my first system and i went with a cobalt cb 1500.1D with a max power rating of 3000 watts lol, now i know it ain't getting near that but here's the thing, i picked up a orion xtr 122d that has a rating of 600 watts rms so i figure although it will never see 3000 it should be able to put out at least 600 watts right? its got 3 - 40 amp fuses. i'm dying to get it hooked up and see if i made the right choices in purchasing, do you think it will be enough to shake my ford escape a little bit?

@yorche398 Год назад

what’s a good amp i have this amp little older looking for something loader i have kicker 10 c10 on my truck right now.i have some 12 inch JL subs i wanna install,

@mallorycainjr.1921 4 года назад

How is the cobalt 4 channel amplifier? Need something to power morel components and kicker KS 6x9

@vapestar3705 2 года назад

I wanna know if you ran a couple 4ohm dvc 10s wired down and ran it 1 ohm would this amp get hot????that's all i wanna know cause for the price right now there 130 bucks so for anything over 900 watts 1ohm stable this is decent.donr get me wrong i would hide it i wouldn't want anyone seeing it lol the looks honestly remind me of an old power acoustic amp i had awhile back.i just need a 1ohm stable amp that will put out at least 900 watts rms that won't get hot and fry so any advice on other brands or this amp would be greatly appreciated.thanks ahead of time

@tatert.v.9908 6 лет назад

Another great test!! Im currently getting geared up for my new build and I have 2 of the 15 in hcca spl subs and i also have 2 soundqubed 4.5 k to strap together to try in move these beasts so we will see what happens worse case scenario i have to take out my 3rd soundqubed 4.5 k that i have pushing my two 18 in zcons and go with all 3 but we will see.....Thanks again for the great Dyno!!!!

@catch22frubert 6 лет назад

Tater T.V. That should be impressive. Good luck with the build!

@tatert.v.9908 6 лет назад

Thanks brother appreciate it and if u get a chance u can swing by my channel amd check out some of my builds, my progress and unboxings bro.

@catch22frubert 6 лет назад

Tater T.V. How do you like your Zcons? I don't think I've heard any SSA subs in person. I'm only running a single Xtr 2500 right now, but I'm planning on building a lithium titanate or LiFePO4 battery soon so I can at least strap 2 together. 2 SQ 4500's strapped will be awesome.

@tatert.v.9908 6 лет назад

I love my zcons, as they break in they are getting better and better, sounds like you you are getting yourself set up in the right direction , do u have any videos of ur setup?

@catch22frubert 6 лет назад

Tater T.V. Not yet. I wasn't planning on taking video until I had at least 5k watts. 2500 watts on two twelves in an SUV didn't seem impressive enough to video lol. I just got back into car audio last year. Got a Skar RP-2k, a 300 amp alternator and 200ah of agm's to start. Just upgraded to the Xtr 2500 a couple months ago. Still on the same American Bass XR 12's for now. Next, I'll build the lithium battery. After that, I'll be comfortable running big wattage and more subwoofers.

@godzillasballs 6 лет назад

Good power. Please do a test with two (2) amps strapped. Never seen it before. Thanks.

@ramonleal7886 2 года назад

The newer models say cbt4500.1d. Do anybody know if they perform the same? Same efficiency?

@Kirkwood84 6 лет назад

Still waiting on the Audiopipe apcl-18001d Dyno, But wouldn't waste my money on that Orion but the XTR amps are another story

@ar501dboy3 3 года назад

Can you dyno the Crunch PZ50201D? Nobody's done anything on this line

@GYPIE11 6 лет назад

Ryan can u test a Synergy Audio EFA 1K see if they good/not or do more than rated?

@dariocamacho9871 5 лет назад

One thing I noticed when Orion tests there OWN amps they do double or triple power and ground inputs that's when these amps make the most of there power

@Rovin6 6 лет назад

name of song played during testing ?

@kennethbynumiii9083 6 лет назад

Should test out one of these they're only a $159 Power Acoustik CB1-8000D 8000 Watt Mono Class D

@melbahouse5743 6 лет назад

have you ever heard of Addictive Audio, a place in Springfield IL sells this brand, and says it is one of the best budget amps around. Can you get one to test so we see for ourselves?

@mikeraskin7319 6 лет назад

I love that the box show cea and iasca logos on it, giving the impression that the numbers are legitimate. Terribly misleading and I'm really disappointed that Orion would apply such a practice. It does do pretty good on power though.

@wwmclawhorn1 5 лет назад

Wanted to see if you could give us an amp dyno of the cobalt 3500 strapped!! Please! Also I am wondering if someone can give me some advice please? Im looking into either strapping the cobalt 3500.1 or getting the audiopipe apmi 2000. Maybe even strapping that as well. Im gonna be running 2 Rockville K9 12’s D4. Im currently running 2 Sundown E12V3’s. Any suggestions on my setup would be awesome and thanks in advance to any who can respond!

@edrickmendez1729 6 лет назад

Hey Ryan try to get the Audiopipe APDLI Series in a future testing!

@robertosantiagomp 4 года назад

could it be an acronim to say 4 ohm at 500. 4500

@adriant815 6 лет назад

Nice video, it’s kind of a shame Orion puts out this stuff, but I understand for someone looking to get started it’s “alright”. Keep up the vids got my like👍🏽

@catch22frubert 6 лет назад

Adrian Turrubiates I think Orion needs to be more honest about the Cobalt line. Also, completely ditch the Zstreet line. Those are terrible amps and definitely degrade the brand. Cobalt amps wouldn't be bad if they were more honest.

@fishboyjames5232 6 лет назад

Can I request u do the boss r3400d it's under a hundred dollars and says 3400 wats max no rms ratings but has 3 40 amp fuse

@jeffbarton3353 6 лет назад

I had the 2500w version of this amp. It wasnt bad for its size but old 2500d said 5kmax instead of 2500max and had 20 amps less fusing so if you buy the old 2500d model online and get the new one instead....Theyre going to have this problem until the old version is sold out so heads up that.

@hardeepsingh-is1pn Год назад

What difference between Orion cobalt Cb4500.1 Orion cobalt Cbt4500.1

@rodgermasinde3696 4 года назад

Can you do amp dynamo on Bassface db1.4 ;6000w 1ohm

@fatality_don7813 2 года назад

Would you recommend two of these amps running two 15 vxf skars ?

@bigblank69 2 года назад

Probably not unless they are extremely cheap

@kooltechno5108 6 лет назад

the numbers is to just attract more buyers good thing we have u an big d wiz to run dyno for tru rms great job keep it up I have two mini amplifiers I would love u to dyno they r TDA 8954th 420/420 class d an the IRS 2092S 500WATT mono

@shawngriffin2368 5 лет назад

I love reading all the comments....most of us watching these videos are true bass heads. I'm not sure if everyone knows this, but most of the consumers who buy amps and speakers just want sound and a little boom. That is why companies make this stuff. Also everybody who talks trash about people buying cheap crap need to stop it. You would think everyone drops thousands in the trunk the way people talk trash...lol

@troubleship6064 6 лет назад

The crazy thing is, I bought two of the 2500.1dz. No sticker but a damn cobalt comes with one

@Nico-jk4sb 5 лет назад

Trouble Ship i have 2 12’s on this cobalt 4500.1 n my shit bangs, getting 15’s soon thinking about running 1 of these to each sub

@ancientalien815 5 лет назад

I have a old kicker zx2500.1 that's been a great amp. I've ran it at 1 ohm for the last 7 years and never had a problem. Would love to see what numbers it's putting out.

@bradmeek Год назад

The ZX near specified a 1 ohm rating cuz kicker didn't want to cover it but the ZX series monoblocks all did 1 ohm

@senkofam 2 года назад

This amp is still gonna pound for the price its reasonable. I bet if you put 2 12inch speakers rated to 4500 watts max this amp will beat the crap outta them almost every brand lies about there ratings. Almost not all... U get what you pay for. I just bought this for 130 thats pretty cheap and im pretty sure it will handle my apline type r just fine.

@romans116notw Год назад

Btw, when can we expect some new videos??

@ancientalien815 5 лет назад

Pretty efficient!

@sammus1412 6 лет назад

The thing with Orion is, the "max music power" rating, is always 4x the RMS rating of the product. My XTR Pro subs are 1250rms and "5000w max music power"

@volleyballjerry 2 года назад

Yup! The "max music power" rating is marketing crap designed to appeal to the teenage and uneducated buyers. I mean look - they print the word "Loud" on the box. Really? You mean there are folks that don't know that amplifiers are there to make the music louder? Their target market is not after impeccable sound quality. Their target market is someone with a pair of cheap 12" subs who is trying to date some high school sophomore girl who could not tell the difference between Mozart and an elephant farting. These buyers do not have anywhere close to the cash required for a high end quality sound system that would typically have Alpine, Rockford Fosgate, Audio Control, or even the Orion HCCA series amplifiers driving their speakers. But, again, Walmart shoppers really should not be putting a $2000 sound system into a 1997 Ford F-150 (hail and rust damage included for free) truck that is worth $1000. You will never see this amp installed in a BMW or an Audi.

@trucavalier 6 лет назад

Budget gem for sure. $169 for 1500 dynamic 20 years ago hahaha.

@celestemccoy5476 6 лет назад

They are just trying to make money like everyone else. People don't always have the money to spend on expensive brands of amplifiers. That's why Boss and Power Acoustik have made it this long. Expect other companies to eventually do the same or run under a different name and do it. But these companies have to sell to make money and I can't afford $300+ on every amp I buy. Thank you Ryan for showing the alternatives to choose from. Anyway if I spend $160 on an amplifier I don't expect 4500 watts or even half that amount.

@dietrichwilliams2913 6 лет назад

not bad at all!, so what does my cb3500.1d put out then?, i guess ill keep it in the box, that it came in!, or use in my second car!, massive audio drago 5k, here i come!!!

@geoell1904 5 лет назад

Always remember, as a general rule, to cut max watts in half. Then +/- 200 watts, lol. I'm always happy about my products. But yes, some other companies, fosgate... are rated, or even under rated. I bought 2 of these cobalt amps on sale for 90 each, and paired it with 2 1522 xfl's, 1 ohm each at 1200 watts (rms) each speaker. Speakers are rated 1k watts rms, but im having no prroblems. If it smells when i crank the thing, i turn it down to cool off. Rocks like hell!!! Yet I can still get stronger subs and still have the power to push the new subs without buying new amps.

@joeyholthusen6495 6 лет назад

What's better Cobalt vs Hot set up by Orion? Lol

@jonathanrampersad5655 6 лет назад

So I did some digging and a guy who owns "MD audio "now owns orion says they owned another" big" name ,turns out it pyramid and lanzar pro . Basically pyramid and lanzar are cheapening out the budget line in Orion with these max power ratings even on speakers. Hopefully the xtr, hcca hold on.

@audiophile6475 6 лет назад

Jonathan Rampersad Lanzar Pro isn't the same as regular lanzar and Lanzar Pro makes the OptiDrive for lanzar so they aren't cheaping out but I agree these entry level amps aren't helping the brand. It's like what Epsilon did to SS and PPI after they had real strong relaunches and were using primarily in-house design's on there amps till about 2012 when Epsilon began their meddling to make the brands "more" profitable. Also Pyramid is owned by SoundsAround.

@edwardhorton5467 6 лет назад

Why would such a good brand ruin themselves on the budget line?

@herbyverstink 6 лет назад

$ $ $ $uckers

@holytaco904 6 лет назад

Probably are not sold through the same retail channels as the XTR and HCCA. This is made for online and flea market sales to sell them something with an Orion badge.

@jasonneal 4 года назад

At least post real numbers, I’m sure more people would buy it out of honesty and for a low budget amp.

@jasonneal 4 года назад

um me I just picked up two of the XTR 1500.2 for mids/highs and a XTR 2500.1 for subs and I couldn’t be happier. Way more power than I expected. Amps run cool and super clean. You might want to check out the XTR and the HCCA dyno results from BIG D Wiz. They are no joke

@jasonneal 4 года назад

um me yeah, Orion has changed hands a few times since the 90’s and it seemed they were just overpriced for what you got. They have done a 180 on the XTR and the HCCA line. The cobalt came up a little and the Z street is just embarrassing. But those are made in China and are just entry level stuff. The XTR and HCCA I believe is Korean made and have been putting down some impressive numbers. Totally underrated and good prices.

@alejandrovillar6299 5 лет назад

Can you test a Kenwood 9052d please

@catch22frubert 6 лет назад

This amp really surprised me with the 80 percent efficiency. I wish Orion was more honest about the rms watts though. At least put it in the manual. 1500 Rms@14.4 isn't bad at all. Not eath shattering, but not terrible. Good video!

@davidjames4887 6 лет назад

4om numbers not bad over 500 near 6 at 169 dollars beats boss 4000d

@caseytbss 6 лет назад

Yeah, they would maybe even sell more amplifiers if they put real big on there that its a guaranteed 1500 watts RMS and just said compare to other brands 4500 watt amps. There is something to be said for telling the truth on this shit

@audiophile6475 6 лет назад

Casey Cross the guys buying a 4500 watt amp for 160 don't really care if it makes rated cause "it says 4500 on the box"

@caseytbss 6 лет назад

audiophile thats why i said promote the truth and put compare to other brands 4500 watt amplifiers. They can still put 4500 watts on the box but just put compare to. I dont think the cobalt line is aimed at selling in the US market ..... but maybe they think this is what we like?

@audiophile6475 6 лет назад

Casey Cross it's not made for us It's made for the 16 year old that "wants dat bass yo!"

@bradlwykfulbright 6 лет назад

Remember the West Coast Customs line of amplifiers sonicelextronic.com used to sell? I have the 1600.4. Says it does 800 x2 bridged at 4 ohms. Paid 99 for it when they had them on sale a few years ago. It's running my 750wrms audiopipe TXXBE(extended foam surround) 26 pound dual 4 ohm subwoofer. Wondering if I am really getting 800 watts to each coil ;) the dual 40 amp fuses on amp says no lol. It's loud in my truck, yes. Pants-o-meter says around 300 to each coil, maybe.

@JoseRoberto-bt8nl 6 лет назад

I just ordered a XTR 2500.1Dz amp, it should be here this Tuesday, how does the amp do on the lows, and what is bad about the bass knob?

@catch22frubert 6 лет назад

Jose Roberto I own a Xtr 2500dz as well. It has a ton of power, 2972 watts @ 1 ohm @12.6v on my bithsheet. You won't be dissapointed. Bass knob is kinda cheap, but it works fine.

@therealDerrickPetty 6 лет назад

Yea the bass nob it's cheap but it works. And mine was 2950 at 12.6v

@catch22frubert 6 лет назад

To'Morrow White 2950-2975 @ 12.6v seems to be very normal for the Xtr 2500.1dz from what I've seen. I don't think I've seen a birthsheet under 2900 for this model.

@jamesmcnugget2564 6 лет назад

I have had mine since February an it still impresses me 2nd sub at 1500 watts I've blown...birth sheet says 2984

@drunkenbass6128 6 лет назад

Doesn't the skar rp 1500.1 do even more power though? lol

@alrightalrightalright- 5 лет назад

Place sell these cobalts and zstreets riding on the coat tails of the xtr n hcca , cause I just saw ta 8000 zstreets for $400

@evanfield8361 5 лет назад

damn I was only two watts off from my guess of the dynamic 1ohm test.

@generalkickass6385 6 лет назад

I like Orion but even the original Orion amplifiers made in USA never did there rms power accept the extreme1200 my opinion

@robsorgdrager8477 6 лет назад

Test music starts...rob dances like a robot ......😳

@DaniCamp67 6 лет назад

Looks like these are built for those bandpass boxes. Of which i am not a fan....for almost 175 i guess is not bad

@onestophobbyspot9350 5 лет назад

anyone have any info on the XTR line of subwoofers?

@rhurtadorh32 4 года назад

I know there amps are bad ass that xtr 2500 is a monster i have one

@romans116notw Год назад

It’s a good 1500 watt amp. I can run my 2 Soundqubed hds208’s on this amp.

@chrisjones6165 6 лет назад

I'd take my apmi 2000 all day 2nd coming soon to strap em!!!!

@s.o.s.exploration2412 Год назад

Should put a Kagillion Watts on the box! Yeah! 👍

@trollslayer8260 5 лет назад

I think that there are people out there that buy stereo equipment simply for the social status of saying they have a system and really never research what they are buying they just see the name Orion and a high wattage number and they buy it. Also there are people who know better but they aren't making good money and and aren't patient enough to save up to get the xtra or hcca line. These amps are for them.

@bassinmycar Год назад

Holy hell 174amps @1ohms my 140a alternator wouldnt stand a chance, guess ill have to settle with the Jensen XDA91RB

@brentb5303 6 лет назад

I am as annoyed as anyone about the bs max power raitings. However, someone looking at this as an option probably has little knowledge about amps. If they market it at this price point as a 1,500 watt amp and some kid is looking at other budget amps with big numbers listed and printed on the box which amp will they choose? I have to figure thats what the marketing department was thinking when they pulled 4,500 out of thin air. Luckily we have a couple guys here on RU-vid that set the record straight. They are honest about how they got the amp and don't make shill videos. Thanks Ryan and Big d. I'm sure you've saved alot of people from making a bad purchase.

@treynathaniel4075 5 лет назад

Problem is ALL the good amps had like a 20 year lapse. From the 80's to the 90's shit was boomin then it died off, come back around to the 2010's all of them sold out to shit companies. Granted if you can get Korean made they still beat the shit out of chinesseium

@eliasibguzman5987 6 лет назад

can i send my db drive a7 2000.1 so u can test

@logiticalresponse9574 2 года назад

Max power equation: RMS × RCA(# IN/OUT ports) = MAX POWER . this equation is whats (not) known as a variable equation. Which means , different models , brand name's and wattage classes will not use the same equation. For example a , Boss 3 jiggawatt amp rms equation is RMS × DOESNT MATTER = _jiggawatt @ - 45 ohms × 4 monoblock class z

@donnygeorge9995 2 года назад

I was curious after watching, one simple thing why do you not show the amp, amp wired to the dyno and dynamic running at the same time. You know a simple play it all together proof. So you can assure any disbelievers of your testing.

@Catholic1391 4 года назад

Have you test this one. ORION HCCA HCCA3000.1DSPLX, Class D Amplifier 3000 WATTS RMS 01 OHM

@bigblank69 4 года назад

No but BigDWiz did

@jasonneal 4 года назад

I’m surprised Orion wouldn’t just post the actual RMS numbers. There has to be a reason like this some other company is building these amps and just paying Orion to use their name

@nitroman365 6 лет назад

Anyone know of authorized online retailers for Orion?

@shawnconnolly5525 6 лет назад

nitroman365 Ebay 🤣😂🤣 seriously

@robsorgdrager8477 6 лет назад

The way things are going in our country you'd think companies would be honest about there product. Don't they get that brand loyalty is important for return business?

@Supercharged1976 6 лет назад

It's for sure not a budget amp at $300 but any chance you could get your hands on one of the new Crescendo S1-1500.1's? Thinking about dropping the dough on one just concerned when they crunch amps down to 7"x7 1/2" that it's not gonna end well. lol

@sdkenclosures2892 5 лет назад

Looks to be 60% efficient at 177a at 14.4v. 1500w

@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS 4 года назад

This is Orion's bust line! Fake ratings is a bust IMO Only way I could respect max-power is if the rating is Dynamic maybe... Thanks for the videos keeping us informed!

@RobHTech 3 года назад

not only that, but they also have only a 2 month warranty. The closest approved Orion shop is in Pitt, which I sure as hell am not going to drive 10 hours to get my crap installed just to get my warranty to be a yr., esp. when I am already educated and trained to install the damn thing properly my mother ducking self.

@BrandonAdams-lx2ez Год назад

I'm tossed between this amp and the vfl audio st 4500.1

@bigblank69 Год назад

I like the VFL better, but the best deal is the VFL 5500.1, same board as the original Wolfram 2400.1d and JP23

@adaboy4z 4 года назад

I see a New Orion Cobalt 3500 version with sony 6x9s on Let Go for $75....

@mariohacker7790 5 лет назад

I find this fairly bizarre to an extent... I had the CB3500.1D for a while on the box it gave "MAX", "RMS" and "CEA" rated power... And clamp testing showed it did right about the CEA rated power in real world application... Shame such a well known company such as Orion has such inconsistent equipment and manufacturing

@gavinmcclure8047 4 года назад

Better than the American bass VFL 4800 I paid more for.......I bet it does about the same.....and it claims 2400 rms at one ohm.....I don't believe it with a 120 fuse called for externally.

@ernestodeluca2138 6 лет назад

Can you test TEC gladiator 3k classD?

@ernestodeluca2138 6 лет назад

Ryan Blankenship in Italy is very famous this brand!i have this amp ad it's very good. TEC audio gladiator 3k! If you can taste it 😁

@ernestodeluca2138 6 лет назад

Ryan Blankenship ok thank you so much

@billyjameson1351 3 года назад

Agreed 👍

@the666bud 6 лет назад

I was an Orion fan until early 2000 like most of the old school companies it's just a name they use nowadays not the quality... it's sad to see this happening to all the good old companies that we knew back in the 80s or 90s there's a few companies still going strong today like Fosgate.. me personally I was a u.s. amps fan all the way before RE audio bought them and killed the name

@volleyballjerry 2 года назад

Every time I see those Bell and Howell sunglasses on these stupid T.V. ads "from Bell and Howell - a name you can trust!". Do these managers and marketing directors think the public is that stupid? Maybe P.T. Barnum was right when he said "there's a sucker born every minute".

@randomtube8226 6 лет назад

I honestly don't have a problem with the amplifier itself. But I do have a big problem with them lying on the box. Lying is whats going to hurt the company.

@cobe1mllc Год назад

If I could take my 109 back from power acoustics amp and get the cobalt I was a sucker 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

@alrightalrightalright- 5 лет назад

I've never heard anybody trip over a bass knob like my guy hear

@Pinion512 3 года назад

Agree. If it does what it should do, there should be no problem. He's just looking to make some drama. over. nothing.

@cheddarshredder6572 3 года назад

Lol "here"

@mac4782 6 лет назад

The Orion brand doesn't carry the weight it used too.

@wadehensley5005 6 лет назад

This looks exactly like the new ZTREET ZT8000.1. The RMS ratings are much closer than the previous generation amp that BigD tested. Why haven't these companies learned?!?!?!!;

@74keefg63 Год назад

I thought the box was empty how easy he was flipping and moving it around 🤣😂🤣

@bigblank69 Год назад

It actually was... great thing about non linear editing lol

@74keefg63 Год назад

@@bigblank69 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@omarrivera174 6 лет назад

Please test the crunch gtr 3000.1

@omarrivera174 6 лет назад

Thanks anyway

@MrSgtskip 6 лет назад

Well.... for kids coming in, they have to start somewhere...….. WE DID...!!!!

@catch22frubert 6 лет назад

Steven Patterson I know I took whatever I could get my hands on at first. I was extremely lucky that my uncle was into car audio before I was. My first equipment was an Mtx Blue Thunder setup that was basically gifted to me. I didn't know much back then.

@popwarhomie 6 лет назад

My first amp did over rated RMS power.

@allenpaul7 6 лет назад

Steven Patterson not me I always had the best and always will I will never recommend this piece of shit to anyone

@Choralone422 6 лет назад

Personally I still call it a bust since there are no RMS ratings provided anywhere. Sure it's not a bad amp, but I don't believe in rewarding companies that try to be shady with my $$$ period. If they would have stated it was 1500 watts at 1 ohm and stuck with that I'd say it's a gem.

@volleyballjerry 2 года назад

As soon as I see "Loud" printed on the side of the box with NO RMS RATING, I would not even bother considering it. Remember a junior in high school with his first (*very* used) vehicle that he scraped $800 to buy from working at McDonald's is going to drool when he sees *4500* *WATTS* and *LOUD* on the box all for under $200.00. As he stated in the video - maybe this is a market that will make them money. Fool enough high schoolers who simply do not have the money for a *real* audio system (or do not know any better) and just sell a lot of them. Made in China - you can pretty much make a buck selling any type of junk if you sell enough of it.