Orochi v2 vs. G Pro X Superlight vs. Viper Ultimate - My Top Pick and Why 

Sorry, I misspoke in the video. The Viper ultimate does in fact have a DPI button on the bottom of the mouse. I had a mild stroke before filming that clip in the video apparently lol. It does have a RGB indicator as well, so you DO NOT need synapse to change the DPI steps. However, you will need razer synapse to unbind the right side buttons on the mouse - after which you can than uninstall Razer Synapse and be done with it.

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Side Button broke on my Logitech G Pro Wireless. I'm not even going to send it in for repair, I just bought the Orochi V2.

Thanks for that! I've got one coming. I have always liked the g305 size and wished there was something with better feet/weight/side curves, and here it is.

Real talk man, you are underrated as shit, probably my new favorite reviewer, also bought an orochi v2 and can’t wait for it to come in on Saturday!

been rockin the orachi v2 for a year, first wireless mouse ive ever had and i love it.

I am super excited to get my orochi V2! I have noticed we have a lot of the same preferences in mouse and mousepads - but it's getting a little crazy buying 1-2 mouse and mousepads every month now... 😂

bro, you have to be the new rising mouse review! your content is so top tier, it feels like the younger version of rocket jump ninja! and the gameplay footage is highly needed for reviews like this and not many reviewers are actually doing it. i would love if you had a mouse cam for the gameplay footage too! good stuff and subbed!

I'm convinced. I've been using an office mouse for gaming and I've been wanting an upgrade. Good comparison

You deserve way more than 1.2k subs. They're good gaming peripheral reviews/comparisons

nice review just ordered Orochi v2, i think im gonna like it a lot

was about to get GPW SL but this video convinced me to get this egg boi

Phenomenal gameplay clips. Can’t wait for your Skypad review!

This video changed my negative opinion on the Orochi. Maybe I'll buy one.

Should have my orochi v2 soon. Cant wait!

As a fingertip mouse user Id recommend the Orichi as you have a tonne of space at the end to move it forward and backwards. Feels really natural and personally perform better when I have a smaller mouse

This is perfect for me as I'm trying to decide between my GPX and Orochi V2 :) thanks a lot.

Your aim is like a freaking lazer! 👍👌🙌

When you talked about the verticality movement of moue in hand, I'm the same way. Anything longer than a g305 usually isn't going to work out.

As someone who has put in the hours with both mice I can say without a doubt it’s hard to pick between the 2. My switches in the GPX feel amazing. I actually took out the omrons and replaced with the Kailh 4.0 and it’s crazy good. One thing I did notice was the Orochi doesn’t have the same grip as the GPX. The GPX sticks to my hand and the orochi feels very slippery. They both are good mice. If the orochi had grips like the GPX I would go for it. Also, my wireless dongle for the orochi actually came apart when taking it out of my pc. I never had any issues with my GPX it is a solid mouse.

Bro... I can't believe I haven't been subbed this whole time, been watching since you posted the Quartz RVU review on Reddit. Keep the banger vids coming!

My new favorite mouse reviewer. I think the same with my GPX. Expensive mouse, but has problems a $150 mouse shouldn't. The size is also way to big for me. Definitely getting the Orochi v2!

I remember seeing this mouse on Reddit a couple of weeks ago and really liking it, then people were telling me “Oh no it’s fake, it’s just a concept art” LMFAO I ended up buying a razer viper ultimate a week and a half ago... 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

great review! just ordered the orochi since i have smaller hands

How large are you hands? The orochi looks pretty small, worried about it causing cramps after longer periods of use for larger hands

Awesome man. Lovin that mouse bro. I hadn't convinced myself to get one yet but after watching your vid I kinda want one now. Congrates on reaching that over 1000 sub. Peace out man.

If you had to pick between the Logitech G Pro X Superlight and the Razer Viper Ultimate, which one would you pick?

got the same one ! this mouse is realy great for finger tipp ! i got a big hand too but this mouse feels so good in the hand !

Hey man, the orochi v2 is now available for $45 and the viper ultimate is available for $90. I’m a palm gripper and I really don’t know which to get. Is the orochi too small for palm grip? I have pretty average sized hands. Is the viper ultimate (with charging stand) worth buying for literally twice the price? Which would you recommend overall?

Great video! I just got my orochi v2 today and wow, what a fingertip mouse it is.

3:51 That's a crazy amount of button side to side play lol

Great review! How’s the white colour holding up on the Orochi?

Mine is arriving today and I'm so stoked. I used to love the g305, but that mouse has needed a refresh for years. Should be a bit of an adjustment period after maining the outset ax for a while now, but I'm excited to try this little thing out.

Superb review !!! Very true and real and highly informative (especially the tactile roughing to prove the build quality) I actually was looking for the best wireless full body mouse (buttons and body made from the same continuous pieces) and at the point where Orochi seemed to be the one ;) Logitech was always my go to but know (more agressively than ever) I am looking out for everything out there that actually earns my respect and money (mice and practically any other product really), Soooo ... I guess until Logitech realises that unibody is the only way to go for any kind of user that appreciates a clean product with zero - minimal maintenance I'll have to go with something like Razer Orochi v2 or better. No more seams on top of the mouse good only for ramping up dust, pet fur and dead skin and nothing else really as all design there is lost when in use beneath the hand ... please !!! In fact, I would applaud any true real design (form + function + structure) where the unibody top goes over the bottom part of the mouse is also a unibody with just the receised sensor opening showing + a floating scroll wheel = completely spill-proof + dust-proof ultra minimalistic approach (all LED usefull info like DPI, battery and more could be placed underneath the top cover behind translucent areas and ONLY THEESE LEDS COULD MAYBE, MAYBE BE LIGHTLY TOYED WITH AS RGB "personalisation" = usefull led that could accomodate some animation and color to a tiny extent and no SHOW LIGHTS)

Got the purple custom coming in 2 days.. first razer product and I'm honestly extremely excited. They've always struck me as a low quality option in the past having experimented with glorious d and d-, then logitech g305 then gpw, and then finally an Xm1r, so I'm super excited to see so many people talk the orochi up like it has been.

im not sure what to buy. my hands are 18x10 and i fingertip grip. The mice i've tried and liked are ul2,hati s and xm1. Im now choosing between mz1 or orochiv2 which one do u think i should get?

Is there anything like the G Pro X Superlight with USB-C? - I cannot bring myself to buy a MicroUSB mouse in 2022!

Great review, as always! Waiting for black orochi. Do white and black coating have the same grip?

Bro pls answer, i sell my pulsar x2, gpx dav3, and back again to orochi v2 , Finally i know issue dpi deviation orochi +- 150dpi . I know u use tiger ice skate for orochi, This tiger arc skate better than stock ? If yes , i wanna buy . Thx so much

Does this come with a USB extension cable? Didn't see it when I saw an unboxing of Orochi V2. If it doesn't, what extension cable would you recommend to bring USB transceiver closer to mousepad?

One thing I will contest as an Orochi user, is that this mouse has a terrible coating and lacks grip. You seem to love it, and that's great, but I find that my hand slips off this thing as though I was trying to climb a dirty chalkboard. This was easily fixed with bt.l grip tape, but in no world do I think that the Orochi beats out superior coatings like the ones found on the Superlight and the XM1. Once again, maybe this is a personal preference thing, or is good for people with certain hand types?? but seriously, I've never used a mouse that had a more slippery surface. Otherwise, yes, I agree that this is a fantastic budget wireless mouse, and I can't wait to see how it holds up over time. I'm always a little nervous about buttons that are attached to the shell (especially a removable shell), but so far so good.

i love the mouse ive owned about 7 now trying to find a mouse i liked this one by far is the best ive ever had

Should I buy Orochi v2 or Death Adder V2 x hyperspeed?

Hey friend, nice video. I ordered the orochi v2, but im a bit worried it will be too smal for my 21cm hands, similar to yours, i was thinking about orochi v2 or logitech g pro superlight, do you think i made a good choice for a fingertip grip user? Im worried that my fingers will stay too much close to each other since it's a really small mouse :/. But i trusted your review and i ordered ahaha. My current mouse is Razer Viper normal version, but i was tempted

Orochi should be good for minecraft too, with the additional weight and the perfect shape for fingertip, if I ever need a new mouse, this will be my top pick. Plus, it should be better built and balanced than a g305...

Is it your main over all mices including wired? If not which is your go to?

I've tried all and for my specific grip Viper Ultimate is my end game

Do you have the dongle far away from the mouse (orochi v2)? Because as far as I know there is no extension cable for the dongle included so I have to plug it directly into my PC which is under my desk. So there's a significant range between the dongle and the mouse compared to some wireless mice I had in the past where I had the dongle right next to my mouse with the extension cable. Is the range gonna be a problem?

Hey. I really wanted a new mouse for a while. My hand size is 16.5cm in length and 9,4cm in width and I'm a right handed user. I was thinking about buying either the g pro x superlight or the viper ultimate. At first I wanted the viper mini for its size but I really want a wireless mouse. I'm worried that the gpx superlight or the viper ultimate isn't a good fit for my hands. Would it be an ok fit or should I go for the Orochi v2? The Orochi may be a better fit but I like the viper ultimate and the gpx more. Which one would be the best for me overall? Would the viper ultimate or the gpx superlight be an ok fit for my hands?

I have a Cobra M711 from Redragon and I am undecided as to which one, I am between the Razer Viper Ultimate, Razer Orochi V2 and the Deathadder V2 Pro wireless, which one will be better for me? Remembering that I have a small hand and use the claw grip

Im concerned about the orochi'd size.. Some people say that it feels better than a 305 .. And a viper.. Etc.. What do u think about it ? Also..between the viper and the orochi sensor.. Which one performs better.. I mean.. My viper is nice.. But im not sure about the orochi.. Thx

So I've been saving for a while now and was about to pull the trigger on the gpx *glad I didn't after seeing this video,* when I couldn't get the new finalmeme as well as a new pad or mat. Would you have any recommendations for a pad/mat as well?

What do you think is the better choice between them if they have the same price?

Lets say the Orochi V2 and the Pwnage symm 2 is the same price. Which one would you go for?

any cramps / discomfort on the long term with the orochi ? And also, since they do not provide a dongle, did you find a way to plug it closely ?

Hey so just wondering I had a glorious model o- and switched to g pro x superlight because whether it be the weight distribution or the sides being smaller I had a hard time using fingertip grip with the o- especially when moving around really fast (I have pretty fat fingers). With the g pro x superlight being bigger and with better weight distribution this isnt a problem at all and I dont feel my fingers and thumb slipping from the side at all. Using fingertip grip on both does the orochi v2 have as much grip as the superlight and are the sides similar in size to the superlight in terms of supporting a chubbier thumb for fingertip grip. My hand is overall small to medium so the orochi v2 length is probably more ideal anyway just need to know if I can grip it especially when playing fast paced, Thank you! Sorry for the long comment.

Bro great review as always! I think you should also give the Cooler Master M720 a look. Super lightweight around 50gs and most ergonomic mouse I've ever used haha

Nice review. Do you know of any mice/mouse you've tested thats similar to the Intellimouse 1.1SE?

I'm a finger tip gripper, my white Orochi is in the mail, it will be replacing my model O wireless, which has some serious qc issues.

hey I’m looking for a super premium mouse and I have my eyes on the viper ultimate and g pro super light which one should I get?

awesome my only regret was not ordering in white.

Can you drag click on the orochi v2?

Great video. You sold me on Orochi v2. Will see how it feels with AAA lithium

Nice review, but actually I have the g pro X and I have to say that the sensor is a little bad configured. When I play rythm games like OSU! my hand is always going down, off table. I hadnt this issue with other mice. Edit : I really like the way you review your products. +1 sub 😉

What sens / dpi for apex do you use? Tips for improving aim besides playing more

¿What are the specs that u consider pros and cons over to each other (GPX vs Orochi v2) ? I already have a viper mini, but nowaday im playing in low sens and the cable is being a trouble, so i want switch to a wireless mouse, so i'm so doubtful which to get. Considering that in my country i gotta spend $93 usd for the Orochi v2 and $125 for the GPX.

Great comparison/review as always! :) The new keycaps look amazing btw

do you recommend the orochi v2 with someone who uses finger trip grip and a handsize of 18cm,8.5cm?

Thanks for the video mate. I could not understand you sometimes because I know very little English. I wonder what is the best in your eyes? I like logitech more. I don't understand 60 g when the battery is inserted?

my orochi ive only had for around 2 months and it already wont turn on ive tried new batteries as well as AAA batteries it just wont even show light on the dpi button

Fresh the human aimbot! My skypad XL comes in tomorrow, can’t wait. Orochi v2 should hopefully be here this week too!

Thanks for the video. I'm in the process of searching for a new mouse at last. I'm using some hybrid between finger grip and pincer claw (back side of the mouse goes into the knuckle under the pinky) with the mouse rotated counter clockwise a bit. Hand size is 18.1/10.2. RVU fast test felt OK in a store. Can't test the orochi yet though. What do you think would be better option for me? Btw, subscribed :)

my bad for wondering but what mouse feet are you using on the superlight? is it the tiger arc 2?

I also play apex legends and your review provided me a great understanding to each of those mouse.. Good review!~ Keep it up!!

what is your keyboard and keykaps looks so clean ?

I got this mouse recently switching from the pulsefire haste and I must say it's a nice mouse - but I still have to get used to it gonna give it about 2 weeks before giving it an honest impression

Do you think wireless has a big impact on performance? Loving the np01s but I can't help but want to try pro superlight. Orochi was sadly too small for my claw.

I'm a mercury Razer Viper Ultimate user and am thinking of getting the Orochi v2 to main. It's been a good run Viper.

Would this be good for me? My hand is 18.5cm x 9cm and i play fingertip

So, For a 6inch / around 16 cm hand, which one would be best for me?

Hello. I don't know your language, so I use a translator. please tell me, after a little experience using these mice, which one would you keep for yourself ??? thanks for the answer.

Is a lithium rechargeable AAA battery the same weight as a non-rechargeable energizer ultimate lithium AAA?

Any plans to compare the orochi v2 to the hati s wireless?

The only downside right now is that the orochi v2 is not on amazon and razer take literally two weeks to ship anything... Mine was ordered last week and should be here by Friday. I have a g pro and I have the same issue where I feel the mouse is too large in the back to fingertip how I want to, so hopefully the orochi will be a better shape for me. For reference I have 21cm by 10.5cm hands.. Will update this comment after I play with the mouse for a few days. But dope comparison man, I also feel like it's direct competition to the G pro and ultimate, but a lot of other reviewers are stuck at pinning it against the g305. So obviously it won't beat the 305 in price but it's got a different shape, it's much lower weight and the size is a big factor for most people

Man this was the perfect roundup! Thanks for the detailed comparison. Any word on if the black version will be available on Amazon? The Razer store is a hell of a lot more expensive in my region.

great job ! keep going bro !

i bought a superlight and it came yesterday so its a bad mouse?

I got the standard black version, LOVE it thus far. Other than a wireless MM720, this should be my new main over the GPXS, RVU, DA V2 Pro etc. Good video.

how much is that mousepad you got there 👀

What's your hand width? My hand is 20 x 11cm and the Superlight is about the smallest I can go when it comes to mice, mostly due to grip width. I enjoy using the mouse and don't feel any pain while using it but I'm definitely interested in the Orochi v2 since I use fingertip grip. Great video btw

I think I'll get mine on wednesday or so, excited!

I have all 3 mice and the orochi could of been end game but my accuracy dropped in aim labs (flicking scenarios) and I couldn't figure out what was off with the mouse. I finally Did a dpi deviation test and found the orochi's true dpi to be around 870-890 when set to 800dpi. Changed dpi to 700 to counter the inaccuracy, but the sense still feels off compared to other mice. This has nothing to do with sensor position, but a huge error in dpi deviation.

I just picked up a black one and I love it. Im returning the Viper Mini I picked up last week to replace my old g203 (gpro gaming mouse). I guess once you go egg, you can't go back

where the clips using the skypad?? nad what is your cm 360

Oooo What skates do u have there on the gpx?

Hi bro!...ur Superlight use Tiger ICE feets?....ICE or Arc2?...who is better for Superlight?

I've been meaning to ask Fresh, would like to know your Apex Legends settings! Video, Gameplay, Audio and mouse sense....would be a great vid for you to make mate! Also your computer Rig you play on! Season 9 just started...keep hyped!

I used rocket jump ninjas hand size search this mouse came up as the lowest latency for 18x10 cm for fingertip looks good I can’t seem to be consistent with the g pro super light

The G PRO X Superlight removed the DPI button for a reason, and that reason is to reduce weight on the mouse-they made gaps on the scroll wheel, removed the RGB feature, and last but not least the DPI button. In my opinion, the built quality on the G PRO X Superlight is actually pretty good. You showed the side flex of the mouse buttons here on this video, but who does that while your gaming, so of course you would judge its built quality terrible. The side buttons could be personal preference-some people like it, but I think most people like the side buttons, for me personally. I have been enjoying the G PRO X Superlight because of the weight, and its shape. Another thing that I want to point out is that I have no issues on using a software to change the sensitivity, since you only use one sensitivity of your preference.

Glad the accidental RMB clicks on the bottom-right were fixed. Kind of concerned me for anyone playing aggressive claw. Now it's getting hard for me to find any flaws in this mouse. . . . I guess all I got to do is try to see if the shape is for me (coming from o-).