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Orson Welles: "You can make a wonderful film about nothing. Look at Fellini." 

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Excerpt from a 1982 interview with Orson Welles in a Parisian film school.
Orson talks about the most important things in making a film and states that "you can make a wonderful film about nothing", referring to Federico Fellini.
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@npol024
@npol024 5 месяцев назад
I've seen other clips from this interview, and Welles' intensity is in rare form here. He regretted falling in love with film because he was one of those people who could've done anything. The way he skewers (and then honors) Elia Kazan shows that all he needed was a microphone to express a clarity that most directors couldn't reach with 100 pictures.
@silvermeta2421
@silvermeta2421 2 месяца назад
i mean it's not like he wasted it playing chess or whatever
@amirrahnama8974
@amirrahnama8974 2 месяца назад
Do you know where I can watch the full interview from?
@gianni206
@gianni206 29 дней назад
What’re the first 2 important things? The camera and the edit?
@feelemotionsapp
@feelemotionsapp 28 дней назад
3. The script/story 2. The director 1. The actors and what's on screen
@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl
@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl 23 дня назад
In my opinion: 3. The script/story 2. The music/sound 1. The visual/image
@feelemotionsapp
@feelemotionsapp 23 дня назад
@@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl The director is responsible for image and sound
@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl
@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl 23 дня назад
@@feelemotionsapp The DP is responsible for the image, the sound editor and/or music composer is responsible for the sound/music. And we're talking about What makes a good movie, not Who.
@feelemotionsapp
@feelemotionsapp 23 дня назад
@@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl People make movies. And the director is responsible for everything and everyone involved. It is his vision and everything starts and ends with him.
@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl
@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl 23 дня назад
@@feelemotionsapp Umm, no it doesn't. And people making movies doesn't change the difference between what and who.
@thatllputmarzipaninyourpie3117
Recently watching Fellini for the first time and wasn't that surprised to see how much David Lynch was obviously influenced by him.
@samaraisnt
@samaraisnt Год назад
Everyone was influenced by him.
@ericjohnson9623
@ericjohnson9623 Год назад
Lynch visited Fellini in the hospital before he died; he talks about it in Room to Dream.
@peterkelnerxd7009
@peterkelnerxd7009 11 месяцев назад
Nah, Lynch doesn't understand Fellini
@thefabro30
@thefabro30 7 месяцев назад
why wouldn't he?@@peterkelnerxd7009
@njux1871
@njux1871 5 месяцев назад
@@peterkelnerxd7009 Has nothing to do with being influenced by someone.
@msa4998
@msa4998 Год назад
So that’s where Jerry and Larry got the idea! Who knew?
@antoinepetrov
@antoinepetrov Год назад
Seinfeld really does have a connection to Fellini!
@michibubu
@michibubu Год назад
Jajajajaja!
@Wapak95
@Wapak95 2 месяца назад
🤔
@monsieurgolem3392
@monsieurgolem3392 2 месяца назад
Even Hitchcock said he didnt care about the content but handling the material.
@gianni206
@gianni206 29 дней назад
What’re the first 2 important things? The camera and the edit?
@user-yourselves47
@user-yourselves47 29 дней назад
​​@@gianni206 now nobody knows the first two things because welles didn't say, i'm frustrated....
@cothinker680
@cothinker680 23 дня назад
@@user-yourselves47 image and sound
@DoctorBatmanMD
@DoctorBatmanMD 8 дней назад
The story doesn’t so much matter as the storyteller.
@rayortiz313
@rayortiz313 5 дней назад
And yet he told amazing stories by working with amazing scripts. I guess Psycho is 90 minutes of a shot of a house, right? Great filmmakers often give the worst advice.
@Rune3D
@Rune3D Год назад
And this is why I don't watch CinemaSins anymore.
@trinex3332
@trinex3332 2 месяца назад
Cinema Sins always sucked
@Wapak95
@Wapak95 2 месяца назад
🛎
@gmatsue84
@gmatsue84 Месяц назад
@@trinex3332 Yes it did. But you're telling me that still exists?
@icyjaam
@icyjaam 23 дня назад
Whats that
@batmenic365StopMotion
@batmenic365StopMotion 23 дня назад
​@icyjaam It warms my heart to read someone ask that. To think, they might be falling into obscurity. In the 2010s, CinemaSins was a youtube channel that created cynical and pedantic videos pointing out flaws in movies. This would range from "I see a crew member in the background of this shot" to the far less reasonable "the entire plot of this movie does not make sense because x plot detail was not explained". Trouble being that sometimes those plot details were explained, and the creator would either not have noticed or would claim otherwise just to pad out the video. Putting aside such film criticisms as "no lapdance in this scene," the channel had no love for film as a craft, nor any want to deconstruct it as a product. The humor was cheap, hollow, and low-brow. This would have been fine, if they hadn't been popular and shaped the conversation around movies for my high school friend group. Say what you will about video essay culture, at least it promotes discussion.
@dartymcfly22
@dartymcfly22 10 месяцев назад
Orson Welles speaks the truth.
@demoncanondllyf
@demoncanondllyf Месяц назад
"Hey Jerry listen to this! That's gold Jerry! Gold!"
@Blady99
@Blady99 Год назад
Ah, the French.
@Floccinaucinihilipilificator
- ..champagne... has always been celebrated for its excellence...
@ShlickMick
@ShlickMick Год назад
MWAH... the frencsh
@viralbuthow000
@viralbuthow000 Год назад
It's vintage, dated
@DA-wg5cz
@DA-wg5cz Год назад
"Ulala where's my wine, i need wine to sleep and my old stinky cheese"
@andrewsyouniverse1870
@andrewsyouniverse1870 Год назад
I understood that reference
@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl
@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl 23 дня назад
I agree, script is the third !! Cinema is before all audiovisual, people tend to forget it. The image and the sound/music are more important than the story in my opinion. I actually write most of my stories with a lot of details that I don't write to be shown on screen or explained; the viewer can understand the story as he pleases, with just the image and sound that is provided. I shot one of my first short movies that way, and depending on the viewer I had very different perceptions and understandings of it, some that I had never imagined but made total sense, it was very interesting. Cinema should be more like that, we need to free ourselves from the old habit of storytelling that made sense when it was just oral transmitted stories or theatre, but is not necessarily mandatory for an awesome movie. Look at Pulp Fiction, for example.
@amb3rrif1c
@amb3rrif1c 7 месяцев назад
honestly id cheer if fellini was mentioned too
@annalisavajda252
@annalisavajda252 Месяц назад
He didn't say "great" he said wonderful the title misquoted him.
@finddeniro
@finddeniro 15 дней назад
Orson had A insistence passion to his work..
@scottmccurdy6493
@scottmccurdy6493 3 месяца назад
Characters and ideas are what I would say are the two most important things.
@TheRubberStudiosASMR
@TheRubberStudiosASMR Год назад
He’s right
@Ilyass3
@Ilyass3 4 месяца назад
So what was the first ?
@eyeballbilly
@eyeballbilly Месяц назад
the director, his/her voice
@hi-five4960
@hi-five4960 Год назад
What did he say the 2nd most important thing is?
@billygarcia9885
@billygarcia9885 2 месяца назад
Learn every crew member’s name
@vijethshetty4789
@vijethshetty4789 Месяц назад
And first?
@jh2245
@jh2245 5 месяцев назад
Page said that Led Zeppelin was mostly a band that wrote songs about nothing. It also worked for them. I believe that Buñuel along with his partner at the time, Salvador Dali perhaps made the first ever film about nothing, since the film was just completely taken from their dreams, their subconscious minds. No conscious ideas were even used in the story at all. An Andalusian Dog is that film of course. Honestly though, I'm not sure which film Welles is talking about regarding Fellini. To me Fellini's films often feel full of meaning and intent.
@gabrielegagliardi3956
@gabrielegagliardi3956 3 месяца назад
Led Zeppelin directly stole the songs, they didn't even write them
@jh2245
@jh2245 3 месяца назад
@@gabrielegagliardi3956 Go back to school.
@gabrielegagliardi3956
@gabrielegagliardi3956 3 месяца назад
@@jh2245I touched your heroes and now you are butthurt, led Zeppelin are for boomers, we are in2024, upgrade.
@jh2245
@jh2245 3 месяца назад
@@gabrielegagliardi3956 Lol, you're pathetic. Get some sleep, you need to get to school, badly!
@stefano4170
@stefano4170 2 месяца назад
​@@gabrielegagliardi3956 esagerato. Perlomeno avevano un sound nuovo,che nel rock è praticamente l'unica cosa che conta
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ Год назад
If story is the third most important thing, what are second and first?
@Studentofgosset
@Studentofgosset Год назад
Fear and surprise.
@afkmike8725
@afkmike8725 Год назад
I'd guess that he would say directing and acting. But I disagree.
@Meninx87
@Meninx87 Год назад
Money and money
@dystopian_1
@dystopian_1 Год назад
Imagination and money
@bugzyhardrada3168
@bugzyhardrada3168 Год назад
direction and meaning/depth
@KlausSgroi
@KlausSgroi Месяц назад
If script is the third, what are the first and the second most important?
@giucas18
@giucas18 Месяц назад
I was wondering the same thing
@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl
@AltanirvesTeokwitlaoselotl 23 дня назад
Image and music/sound. Cinema is an audiovisual art.
@JoeLabite
@JoeLabite 37 минут назад
Sex and drugs
@williamgrosse_music
@williamgrosse_music 28 дней назад
Where can I find this whole interview??
@HowlGough
@HowlGough Год назад
He's not wrong
@NoOne-tg9tk
@NoOne-tg9tk Год назад
So Fellini succeed in making a Film about Nothing...(Flaubert wanted to write a novel about Nothing)
@gregorsamsa2271
@gregorsamsa2271 10 месяцев назад
It's kinda the same with Seinfeld..only in a show sitcom format..
@finnkdy
@finnkdy 2 месяца назад
Beckett done it twee keer.
@markdavidsaringan3188
@markdavidsaringan3188 Год назад
Is the fellini film welles is referring to, 8 1/2?
@Arjmm
@Arjmm 3 месяца назад
I think he is referring to his every film
@Vsko478
@Vsko478 26 дней назад
@ashwinkuruvilla7060
@ashwinkuruvilla7060 4 месяца назад
Ironically Fellini remains to be the most nominated Oscar writer Lmao!
@rustincohle2135
@rustincohle2135 2 месяца назад
That's not true. Woody Allen has twice as many Oscar nominations for writing than Fellini does.
@beckoning-chasm
@beckoning-chasm Год назад
John Huston, Orson Welles and...Peter Bogdanovich?
@Fordham1969
@Fordham1969 Год назад
Bogdanovich and Welles were great friends and also collaborators.
@beckoning-chasm
@beckoning-chasm Год назад
@@Fordham1969 I knew that, I just wasn't sure who that was in the rightmost part.
@Fordham1969
@Fordham1969 Год назад
@@beckoning-chasm Oh ok, that's funny I took your comment a completely different way than you intended. I thought you were slyly implying that Bogdanovich didn't deserve to be in the frame with the two other giants.
@beckoning-chasm
@beckoning-chasm Год назад
@@Fordham1969 No, nothing like that at all. I just didn't know who it was. It kind of looks like Willem Dafoe but I knew it couldn't be, so I guessed. No offense taken, bro.
@roachdoggjr1940
@roachdoggjr1940 Год назад
Too bad we never got to see Seinfeld: The Motion Picture.
@user-kx1rd3hz5k
@user-kx1rd3hz5k 2 месяца назад
Antonionni was synonymous with nothing. The famous image of the body in Blow Up disintegrates as he enlarges it.
@गुरुगोरखनाथ
@गुरुगोरखनाथ 28 дней назад
All the 10-time Oscar winners in the comments section are in agreement with Welles here. It's great to see all geniuses agree with each other.
@RedCatHabitat
@RedCatHabitat Месяц назад
i bet somebody clever could extract that phantom shadow overlay/glitch and recombine it with the true image and restore some of the image quality, maybe with ai.
@Funkywallot
@Funkywallot Год назад
My honest opinion after watching Citizen Cane : Masterfull cinematography but surprising little substance. Consistently ranked as one of the greatest films ever made , I have no idea why really. But, he gave this speech 1982, at a time when all filmaking took a turn for the worse in all the world at the same time. So I guess he´s right. He´s furious about the fast approaching commercialisation in the film industry wich really took of in the 80´s
@FirstPlace97
@FirstPlace97 Год назад
Not at all. I was having a conversation with someone who thought that Everything Everywhere All At Once was an "unbelievable" script. That's how I've always felt about Citizen Kane. It's disingenuous for people to only praise the look of Kane. Every aspect of that film is masterful. Perhaps the greatest cast ever put to film, and maybe the greatest screenplay. Roger Ebert put it best by saying "on the surface, it's as fun as any film ever made; its depths surpass understanding."
@Funkywallot
@Funkywallot Год назад
@@FirstPlace97 I guess i have to re-watch it. It was more then 25 years ago (in my twenties) maybe I was not mature enough
@johncopple6479
@johncopple6479 Год назад
I do not disagree with your opinion! On this film . Thx .
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 11 месяцев назад
lacks substance? it is about a man who wants everything and loses his soul trying to attain it
@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044
@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 11 месяцев назад
You must a profoundly shallow person to watch "Citizen Kane" and find no substance. That's so laughable, I hope you're joking.
@peter5.056
@peter5.056 Месяц назад
I'm craving Grey Poupon and caviar on blinis, with Paul Masson wine.
@brucesewe6431
@brucesewe6431 Год назад
Where can i get the rest of the interview
@antoinepetrov
@antoinepetrov Год назад
Here it is: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jKlI8zNl_xk.html
@guitarista67
@guitarista67 Год назад
Try looking up @ghost ramen's ass.
@joanmjames2495
@joanmjames2495 Месяц назад
Or look at Pulp Fiction.
@bolshevi3187
@bolshevi3187 3 месяца назад
What exactly about Fellini is Welles referring to?
@saba3653
@saba3653 2 месяца назад
I think 8 1/2, which is about a director lacking of inspiration for a film (but it turns out to be a powerful work of art about the beauty of life!)
@burnacco
@burnacco 3 месяца назад
Seinfeld's inspiration
@pannkaz
@pannkaz 16 дней назад
Who is this guy?
@AceLM92
@AceLM92 Год назад
Another example of a movie about nothing, the big lebowski. Yeah that's probably a stupid example to some, but it's still great LOL
@vanderlei1765
@vanderlei1765 Год назад
It's a great film but hardly about nothing, the story structure is the standard as are the story beats. It plays with that fact and people's expectations of a plot while toying with the idea of it being about nothing but if you watch a Felini or a Godard, you'll see the difference.
@AceLM92
@AceLM92 Год назад
@@curiositytax9360 thanks for reminding me that I need to watch that
@himalayantongue
@himalayantongue Год назад
@@curiositytax9360 I love The Long Goodbye and I agree it's a better movie, but Lebowski ripping it off? I don't see it. Influenced by it in some ways, sure, but rip off is a bit much.
@himalayantongue
@himalayantongue Год назад
@@curiositytax9360 Yeah I see what you're saying, I'm sure it does owe its existence to it. That's how cinema is, a long trail of directors influencing and building upon each other. And PTA certainly owes a lot to Altman. Anyway, yeah, TLG is amazing, I love it to death. Glad to hear you do too. The theme plays in my head often. And I think it has actually exploded in popularity over the past few years. I noticed it on Letterboxd. I'm pretty sure it has orders of magnitude more people now that have it listed as one of their favorites than there were a few years back.
@AceLM92
@AceLM92 Год назад
@@curiositytax9360 I like movies from that era, especially film noir, so it won't be much of an adjustment for me, but thanks for the heads up
@Rayoscope
@Rayoscope 2 месяца назад
Look at Fellini? Look at Seinfeld!
@PrettyAntoine
@PrettyAntoine Год назад
Euphoria
@finddeniro
@finddeniro Месяц назад
Orson' s ..stage training and attitude....an insistence.. Took him Far..
@mitchellalexander9162
@mitchellalexander9162 Год назад
Orson Welles: It's a Film about nothing! How do we know when its over? The Uncultured: I do. *doesn't watch*
@NoOne-tg9tk
@NoOne-tg9tk Год назад
Is he criticizing Fellini or praising him?...I am confused
@dropkick45
@dropkick45 Год назад
definitely praising
@sameerahmed-gx8js
@sameerahmed-gx8js Год назад
Hollywood film in that particular era depends on traditional storytelling (act- act-2 act-3)..... filmmaker like jean luc godard or fellini film doesn't rely on traditional narrative....they made masterpiece about dream, imagination,satire without proper storytelling structure...
@NoOne-tg9tk
@NoOne-tg9tk Год назад
@@sameerahmed-gx8js yes...they broke the rules and made something new... very similer to what Joyce or other modernist maestros did in Literature
@Hritik9000
@Hritik9000 Год назад
no one can make films like Fellini, they are milestones.
@edmundironside9435
@edmundironside9435 Год назад
Well he did call it a 'great' film, so I would say he is praising him.
@TungstenViper
@TungstenViper Год назад
Low concept movies
@wilfordbrimleypranks
@wilfordbrimleypranks Год назад
Look at seinfeld
@heric_
@heric_ Год назад
You're right but Seinfeld is not good, at all. It succeeded just because at that time there was nothing else which was interesting.
@wilfordbrimleypranks
@wilfordbrimleypranks Год назад
@@heric_ wrong
@rustincohle2135
@rustincohle2135 2 месяца назад
@@heric_ _"You're right but Seinfeld is not good, at all."_ Then why is it consistently ranked amongst the top TV shows of all? _"It succeeded just because at that time there was nothing else which was interesting."_ Then why is it still popular more than 25 years after it's been off the air?
@katsuquiet97
@katsuquiet97 Год назад
look at seindfeld a show about nothing
@GodsLonelyMan76
@GodsLonelyMan76 Год назад
Well THERE is a show about nothing!
@pawepluta4883
@pawepluta4883 2 месяца назад
The author of "Citizen Kane" definitely knows the subject of films about nothing :-)
@italialibera2102
@italialibera2102 Месяц назад
Fellini and de sica were very beloved by awards Academy
@user-kx1rd3hz5k
@user-kx1rd3hz5k 2 месяца назад
The most nothing director? Melville although there's misogyny suicide betrayal there's ultimately a sense of futility. The critics loathed his nihilism his formal formalization of his nulity Delon plays the same character Jeff either as hit man or Cop in Le Samaurai and Un Flic but it's all impersonal they are types archetypes molded by the exterior coding of the institutions of crime. No private life. The individual disappears in a Zen nothingness. His films always have that feeling of cool distance indifference. Like the blue tint of the photography in Un Flic 1973
@gianni206
@gianni206 29 дней назад
What’re the first 2 important things? The camera and the edit?
@namenotavailable7365
@namenotavailable7365 Год назад
Orson sounds a little tipsy.
@BookClubDisaster
@BookClubDisaster Год назад
Shocker.
@decespugliatorenucleare3780
@@BookClubDisaster would've been surprised to hear him sober
@viralbuthow000
@viralbuthow000 Год назад
MUAHHHAHAHAHA the French
@geert574
@geert574 Месяц назад
Every Altman film is about nothing
@user-ld7lp5oy1i
@user-ld7lp5oy1i 29 дней назад
"Look at Seinfeld" *Bass line intensifies*
@unindovinomidisse1462
@unindovinomidisse1462 4 месяца назад
one could do a film about nothing. the other was a nothing, movie wise. there’s a difference there but probably his ego was too big and his brain too small, to notice it.
@rmd9746
@rmd9746 2 месяца назад
Although fellini entertained with nothing, since he used it to tell about aestheticism, beauty of life and dreams, instead the french bored with their rather dull dialogues about love that made no sense.
@trickydick6152
@trickydick6152 10 месяцев назад
Uh?
@vengeancegauloise6049
@vengeancegauloise6049 Год назад
Sad to think how far French cinema has fallen since Orson gave this speech. We went from the likes of Louis Malle, Truffaut, Godard, to producing the absolute height of mediocrity. The industry in France is completely choked by the worst kind of nepotistic communist dullards. The pearls are almost nonexistent.
@antoinepetrov
@antoinepetrov Год назад
That's true. Even so, in my opinion, "l'état français" will always be the land of auteurs - Haneke, Noé, Denis, Sciamma, etc. I am still hopeful that French cinema will have another Renaissance.
@vengeancegauloise6049
@vengeancegauloise6049 Год назад
@@antoinepetrov i believe so too, and it's true there are some genuine creative voices in spite of the constraints. As a French film school drop out I'm a bit more cynical, you'll have to forgive me for that
@ghostramen3768
@ghostramen3768 Год назад
"Literature is not good because I only know 3 books" good to know
@vengeancegauloise6049
@vengeancegauloise6049 Год назад
@@ghostramen3768 "i have no reading comprehension" fascinating
@matheusvillela9150
@matheusvillela9150 Год назад
Godard was a communist
@yoshimitsu1977
@yoshimitsu1977 Месяц назад
But you need to be Fellini to be a movie about nothing
@Barbapippo
@Barbapippo 5 месяцев назад
Nothing?! Dear Orson, this time you were spectacularly wrong....
@plaidchuck
@plaidchuck Год назад
Disagree. Never a good movie from a bad script.
@chillimayo2661
@chillimayo2661 Год назад
He can't hear you he's dead
@vanderlei1765
@vanderlei1765 Год назад
He's not talking about bad scripts, he's saying that you can make a good movie based on a plot of a man staring at a window. Also, watch Drive. Bad script, great movie.
Год назад
How do you know a script is bad? You can't read it! As part of the audience, you only get the "processed" part of the script: the lines are being said by an actor and the scenes are being executed by a director. And those two things can make a terrible script look like a masterpiece.
@BloodoperaBlackvomit
@BloodoperaBlackvomit Год назад
What is a bad script? Filmmaking is fluid. Unless you are Tarantino.
@Mr.Goodkat
@Mr.Goodkat Год назад
@ I'm not sure I'd go as far as a masterpiece since a masterpiece would need great everything to qualify, including dialogue which is an integral part to a script so it'd need to be good too.
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