On the question of victimhood, I don't think westerners can or will ever understand the amount of humiliation European and Japanese invasion casted on the chinese as a civilization. If you don't know their history, their very long most time much longer than most western history, you'll never understand why chinese of this generation still feels that victimhood. "Chinese and dogs not allowed", those were on sign posts in the concessional areas invaded by the west. that's the kind of memory that motivates Chinese, and unless you have been so humiliated to the core as a civilization, you can't understand living with it.
On the question of victimhood, are Chinese the victims or rather the AGRESSOR in Tibet? Are Chinese the victims or the AGGRESSORS in Xinjiang? How about out on those artificial islands Chinese promised the world would NEVER have weapons on...was that yet another Chinese LIE?? Of course it was! China's chauvenism is REAL, and Chinese STUPIDITY is driving all other nations together to COUNTER Chairman Winnie the Pooh...I mean, Xi's, AGGRESSION!
@@junkscience6397 tibet has been part of Chinese territory since qing dynasty for 3 centuries. Was it invasion at the beginning? Of course. But you see, there has never been a sign of “tibetians and dogs not alowed” and Tibetians has always been treated as a member of Chinese family not as some kind of second class colonialized animals. Too many Westerners cannot even introspect for the colonialism for even one moment.
@@junkscience6397 from a fake Yankee's perspective, your genuine observations are certainly compelling! What did the USA do to her neighbors under the Monroe doctrine? What did the US do in Grenada, Panama, Iraque...? Or well, you are reaping benefit as a fake Yankee, so of course you are blabbing out of your assh*** 😁🤪🤣
Victimization is a handy tool for the ruling party/group. China is not the only one using it. 100 years ago, Japan used the same tool to mobilise the whole country to fight two critical wars to establish their international place then.
I am commissioned to translate this book inot traditional Chinese version. God. You just do not know how stunned I am upon finding so many factual mistakes in this so called "academical" book. I translate it from the Word file that literary agent offered. Hopefully those mistakes are corrected when the real books are published.
One interesting thing about Mr. Schell is that: He pronounces Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping almost correctly every time. But he never pronounces "Jiang Jieshi" correctly. It's always as Chiang Kai-shek, and he stresses "k" specifically, when it's actually not in the Chinese pronunciation at all. My point is: it's telling me he didn't (get to) speak this name with people in mainland very much.
i agree completely with one of my fellow bloggers ,why can,t Chinese scholars discuss China? instead of these gentlemen my suspicion is to Disrespect the Chinese leadership and the Chinese culture!!!
It doesn't matter. The world will remember it as Mao's Suit, not the other way around. Just like they remember Tofu and Go is, but never heard of Doufu and Weiqi.
Because It is much easier for Westerners to understand what a Westerner (extremely well informed and knowledgeable because what he is saying is absolutely true) can say about China than what a Chinese can say. Being a westerner, Orville Schell understands what Westerners have trouble with and it is therefore much easier for Westerners to understand someone with the same cultural base. If you want to listen to Chinese scholars then do so, the internet can probably provide this to you. Plus, RU-vid is not allowed in China...
the cultural revolution was not constructive, this guy has lost his mind. but mao did make today's china possible: very prosaically, he began educating every chinese, and bringing some health care and a sense of active participation to every chinese, a marvel for 90% of the nation. the great leap forward was a miscalculation, brought on by threats from the usa of nuclear devastation. mao suddenly realized that a giant national militia was powerless against and enemy whose goal was to exterminate the great cities of china. he tried, and failed, to bring technology quickly to bloom. many people died, as a result of diverting farm labor to resource production- 8,000,000 is the chinese estimate. i give him a free pass for that, he had a good reason. the cultural revolution was not well founded, and quickly out of control. the lashing out of a weak old man who didn't like the way things were going. the chinese are well aware of these matters, and still revere him for what he achieved. he was the giant of his time, warts and all.
mao was afraid of corruption and he thought deng xiaoping would bring that. deng did bring that (guess who owns those naional banks), but he also brought other things like the economic reform. i think mao failed to realize that corruption is not a product of capitalism, but a product of human nature. to mao's credit, deng's policies made this state capitalism which could be very brutal if out of control. to deng's credit, now china is more wealthy with its markets opened up.
This about Chinese mentality against hundred-year of humiliation was reasoned, based on no Chinese 3000 years of history. So wrong: The P R China established in 1949. But it is R China who overthrown the Great Qing Empire in 1911. Before, China was concurred and occupied by Manchurian since 1640. It was like Roman Empire concurred and ruled Europe, but no country now can claim that it owns while Europe. In Great Song Empire of China 1000 years ago, it had greatest inventions and GDP among the world. China then only had the land of now 6 provinces. A present country cannot pick up an old period of imperial territory as its own. This is just the same, applies all countries who established after WWII, 2/3 of them in the modern world.
The illusion of China being ruled by technocrats is totally wrong. Yes, they were educated as technicians and engineers. But once they joined the force, they must show loyalties to the party by doing what the party leader asks, no matter what science and technology says. The worse part is that since they were raised as scientists and engineers, they tend to treat PEOPLE as mechanical components first. We are just a part to be assembled into a car! We are expendable as individuals. That is the root problem of China's politics now.
Mao is not revolutionary. Mao finally went back to the old ways all reforming emperors did, as what the author said. The difference is that Mao did not have his own blood as HIS HEIR. The old emperors went back to the old ways, because they needed to hand the regime down to their own heirs. So they would somehow "reserve" something for the successors. Mao thought about this too. That's why he sent his only sane son to Korea war to "exercise", as what Kims did in Korea, and what Jiang Jieshi did in Taiwan. What went wrong was that the only successor was killed by the US bomber. That left Mao no his trustworthy heir, which was a huge impact to his views. One of the results were that he didn't have to worry about what China will become after his death. China became an "experiment field" of his. That's why we would have so many political activities starting in the late 1950's, exactly when Mao realised he had no heir of his own blood at all. This was not entirely disaster, or we would become another Korea ruled by Kim.
China is more "Democratic" than any other nations in the world. i got Shingles in China when visited, it only cost me chinese 4 dollars (less than $1.00) stayed in clinic bed for 4 hours with medicines, shots, and cleaning pads with an US passport. Orville Schell married a Chinese women and Bashing China for last 30 years while still in Berkeley until now, it didn't work at all. China has the most effective system and policy on top of the world, just evidenced how powerful the China is now, and how much China serves the whole world of Prosperous. Pl RU-vid the following videos that Taiwanese people asking the world to know with English sub-title. They already sue Taiwan President Tsai Ing Wen of PH.D fraud, now Taiwanese people intended impeach Tsai. a. How Tsai Ing Wen rigged 2020 Taiwan’s President election 蔡英文選舉做票 b. sai Ing-Wen rigged Taiwan’s election 蔡英文選舉做票 c. Americans! People of R.O.C. Needs Your Voice! 2020 Presidential Election Fraud d. 全球首映 5 蔡英文論文Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen Fraud "TThesisGate" Worldwide Premiere 5 e. 芝加哥拒絕假博士後續篇19,播放部份"蔡英文做票必須下台"的視頻，另外6個有關假博士、假論文、假總統的白宮請願連署(Chicago Taiwan Communities Asking Taiwan President to be impeached for election fraud) f. Jason Lee question Taiwan President's legitimacy 質疑總統選舉造假(Part 1 of 3)：從2004年說起/ How does DPP rig Taiwan Elections g. An open Letter to Secretary Mike Pompeo 致美國國務卿蓬佩奧公開信｜from Wang Ping-Chung. h. Taiwan's Criminal Investigation Bureau threatened to prosecute Jason Lee for posting election fraud videos i. @t
