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The United States, China, and the Future of the Global Order 

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NEW YORK, March 21, 2024 - Asia Society Policy Institute, in partnership with Perry World House at the University of Pennsylvania, hosts a discussion on the U.S.-China relationship and how it impacts global trends. Speakers include Kishore Mahbubani, 2023-24 Schlager visiting fellow at the University of Pennsylvania's Perry World House; and Orville Schell, Arthur Ross director of the Asia Society’s Center on U.S.-China Relations. Rorry Daniels, managing director of Asia Society Policy Institute, moderates the conversation. (1 hr., 9 min.)
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@siokkimtan2020
@siokkimtan2020 Месяц назад
I am from MELAKA, Malaysia. Since 15th century China already trade With Melaka. They never conquered us, only trade. BUT the west Portuguese, English and Dutch came with cannons to conquer us and said we belong to them. They each stayed for years.
@Liboch
@Liboch Месяц назад
Actually China has been trading with this region for thousands of years. If you are a history buff you will have to refer to the chinese records to know about this region historic past. Since Melaka was founded only in 1402, a chinese admiral, a trade envoy started to visit Melaka in 1403, a year after its establishment. Once the Europeans managed to find their way to this region, they started to invade the kingdoms. Except for Siam, all kingdoms in south east asia were conquered by the Europeans.. portuguese, spanish, dutch, french, english, american for more than 400 hundred years.
@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984
@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 Месяц назад
For centuries, not years.
@westwoodly
@westwoodly Месяц назад
Ha, ha, ha - the European "founded" Melaka and many other parts of the world. Before them, Melaka in the Malay peninsula was lost, unknown, non-existent (to who, I wonder?}
@jatinpatel1224
@jatinpatel1224 Месяц назад
@@Liboch Malay King of sanatani heritage established his capital in Malacca. CCP has colonial tendency to rewrite history. They are brutal occupiers of Tibet, Yunnan, Uighur and Inner Mongolia. King Camboj established largest hindu temple complex which stand up as historical evidence that zionist CCP does not want to talk about like colonial europeans.
@alanbgtan
@alanbgtan Месяц назад
And that is why the west are known as barbarians
@ganboonmeng5370
@ganboonmeng5370 2 месяца назад
Well I am Singaporean..and most older Singaporean with some wisdom...will tell you otherwise. ..we see America as the trouble maker😅😊
@raykong3907
@raykong3907 2 месяца назад
And Singaporean are wise enough to not tell Americans in the face, and quite frank to China about their problems, which led to an impression that US is seen as a peace maker in the region.
@samliew6610
@samliew6610 2 месяца назад
Yes, evil warmongers
@blackjackpinoko
@blackjackpinoko 2 месяца назад
Anglosphere Colonial DNA never dies.
@vinnyboy1976
@vinnyboy1976 2 месяца назад
Need to watch iron man. America is like Starks industry, need war to sell swords and shields to make money, not peace
@ankHank-fs1zr
@ankHank-fs1zr 2 месяца назад
weapon export helps their economy. that is one motive for making troubles worldwide.
@fahrrurrozi686
@fahrrurrozi686 Месяц назад
Indonesians here, the majority of Indonesians are of the view that any country that becomes a superpower country for Indonesian has no problem, as long as the country is fair and does not create chaos, unfortunately the USA does the opposite.
@user-ei3fp8yj5i
@user-ei3fp8yj5i Месяц назад
chinese here(fake). all the chinese are of the view that any country that becomes a weaken country for chinese has no problem, as long as the country is faked and pretended, unfortunately the USA does the opposite.
@macculu501
@macculu501 Месяц назад
They did support Suharto!
@jeanneng8320
@jeanneng8320 21 день назад
exactly!
@jhngfdsdfgkjnbv
@jhngfdsdfgkjnbv 9 дней назад
who create chaos in West Papua?
@atky7032
@atky7032 Месяц назад
Thanks for inviting Orville to debate with Kishore. Orville's naive viewpoints have enabled Kishore to bring out the best of his wisdom when responding to ignorance. Answering questions calm and composed. The best part: 'When 1.4 billion Chinese people decide to become prosperous, nothing can stop them.'
@thegracienetwork7847
@thegracienetwork7847 Месяц назад
Orville invited Kishore. Asia Society is Orville's territory
@ScoobieDoo-zy1rh
@ScoobieDoo-zy1rh Месяц назад
@@thegracienetwork7847 Orville = token nonasian.
@atky7032
@atky7032 Месяц назад
@@thegracienetwork7847 Seems like Kishore has made it his territory...
@bozhang1148
@bozhang1148 7 дней назад
Were Mao's time and policies also the choice of 1 billion Chinese? And it couldn't be opposed by otheres?
@yanmuikam6160
@yanmuikam6160 2 месяца назад
Hi Mr. Orville you are very wrong about Singaporeans . Many of us Singaporeans feel that USA is a bully and love to " dip it's fingers into everyone's pie" so to speak. We want to trade and lead a peaceful life and not impose our wills on others . Please mind your business and may GOD bless you !
@snowlee-ml7rr
@snowlee-ml7rr 2 месяца назад
In recent decades, Uncle Sam has devoted too much energy to dealing with the affairs of other countries thousands of miles away, but he has no solution to the problems within the United States (such as outdated infrastructure, drug problems, gun problems, racial issues, and political line issues) , medical insurance issues, etc.), the collapse of the United States will start from within.
@loveblindhate9318
@loveblindhate9318 2 месяца назад
@@snowlee-ml7rr It is...Corp/banks/fed/lobby$ > govt. = oligarchy colonization
@angelalim0502
@angelalim0502 2 месяца назад
@@snowlee-ml7rr US is trying to export these problems to the other part of the world by finding likeminded individual who will help them with it and yet, sad to say, some weak minded are still falling into their trap….
@samleong749
@samleong749 Месяц назад
US wants to rule over other countries but is blind to all the issues internal in the US itself.
@mcgaretse77
@mcgaretse77 Месяц назад
sadly... Calvin cheng also represented a large of sgeans that supported USA wholeheartedly 😂
@poohbaby233
@poohbaby233 Месяц назад
I am from Taiwan. My view is can US stop interfering TW and China. Leave us alone!
@kriswang9620
@kriswang9620 Месяц назад
no way. US will use any what it can use to prevent China. and obviously, TW is a best tool just like ukarine for RUSSIAN。 As a 新中国er, i kinda feel poor about tw
@danielchiayizhen92
@danielchiayizhen92 Месяц назад
u think u are the player... buy u re the pawn... no... u are the board. sorry... truth hurts.
@jsim5933
@jsim5933 Месяц назад
Tsai Ing-wen is like Zelensky of Ukraine being used by US in proxy wars. It will only lead to the destruction of Taiwan and deaths to Taiwanese while US is unscathed thousands of miles away. Please don't be fooled by US. See what has happened to Ukraine. 😢 And foolishly used by US to support their Military Industrial complex through huge military purchases.😮
@johnnydeng3488
@johnnydeng3488 Месяц назад
no way, Taiwan is the best place to counter China now
@khqa3763
@khqa3763 Месяц назад
taiwan problem are mainly from taiwanese , most of the taiwanese younger generation have been brainwashed by their local politician and social media that demonize china
@user-yw5wf6kz5t
@user-yw5wf6kz5t Месяц назад
As a Singaporean, I am very comfortable to trade with China. Orville, don't put your words in my mouth, and please stay away from destabilizing our regional peace. I want peace and prosperity, that is what China brings to our table.
@kmsb1one
@kmsb1one 12 дней назад
He can't help himself as a despicable ass full of hubris.
@PrimeroCanale
@PrimeroCanale Месяц назад
All of the problems expressed by Orville, will go away when the US stays out of it.
@alexhuang1734
@alexhuang1734 18 дней назад
smarty
@eng80425
@eng80425 2 месяца назад
I live in SEA and I actually am rooting for China to win and be equal to USA. USA should not be the making the decision for the world and for us any more. If required, USA should be allowed to fade... I am actually not comfortable with USA... In fact I had never comprehend why gun control is so difficult when tiktok ban can move so fast.....Strict gun control saves lives..their priorities baffles me and I cannot trust a superpower who cannot seems to figure out what is important
@aslampervez2294
@aslampervez2294 2 месяца назад
Orville can't observe usa backed genoside in Gaza but he is uncomfortable with xi jingping
@JCSY1
@JCSY1 2 месяца назад
Yes. I think most people in SEA have the same opinion. IF you follow the US, basically it means you have to live in their shadows and follow their every command to the dot. Failure to do so will result in sanctions, chaos and wars. Is this what most people really want ? I think most don't want that route. It is a BIG BULLY ideology and attitude that does not end well for others. The signs are all over the world.
@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane
@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane 2 месяца назад
Westerners have nothing but contempt for SE Asians.
@singularityagi5562
@singularityagi5562 2 месяца назад
Cannot agree more with you!!
@maxdc988
@maxdc988 2 месяца назад
The White elite needs the gun to protect themselves against the Black and Brown people in case there is a riot or anarchy. They have been fearing that dreadful "revenge" scenario since birth. 😁
@guyzer7006
@guyzer7006 2 месяца назад
I’m amazed …who has military bases surrounding China…who is the aggressor..Orville is so out of touch..anyway Kishore has this covered!!
@stevenkwan5589
@stevenkwan5589 Месяц назад
USA could not always good but they do the right thing to contain China and North Korea after end of WW2 ! USA projected ahead of time what communism is about and cannot be trusted! Their 1st/2nd island chain is to contain China and is right that this is in place when u see what China is doing under Xi Jinping! Having USA intervene in this east part of the world is correct cos never let communism dictate this part of the world ! I rather have USA involved against China …simple
@RaymondLi604
@RaymondLi604 Месяц назад
STEM + geographic deficiency 💊
@westwoodly
@westwoodly Месяц назад
He has to be careful not to antagonise America too. Listen to how he lavished admiration of America. Listen to how he praised the American president whom many Americans are not even so generous. Unlike the American guest, he literally condemned the Chinese President. Now that is not tact, not diplomacy of learned professors.
@alanbgtan
@alanbgtan Месяц назад
I have the same thought too. And Kishore preferred Biden over Trump will put Kishore in bad light as Trump did not like Kevin Rudd, the Australian rep to US too.
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Месяц назад
Do you know that the Chinese can only build the Tiananmen Square Massacre Memorial in the United States? Because it is illegal to commemorate the Tiananmen Square massacre in China, and you will be arrested and imprisoned.
@ktleung2419
@ktleung2419 Месяц назад
Orville' couldn't let go of the American exceptionalism. He was naïve on world politics thinking that America means the world. Good on Kishore giving him a lecture.
@bpeng2000
@bpeng2000 Месяц назад
You actually got the point. From the American' perspective, the US is the world, ASEAN is its backyard, and China is threatening its "world order".
@44bett
@44bett 8 дней назад
So true
@guytruth5598
@guytruth5598 Месяц назад
Kisore is the most sane, just,righteous without bias,partial and an intelligent brave speaker of all times.
@user-ly7rp4il7m
@user-ly7rp4il7m Месяц назад
We are so proud of Kishore Mahbuhani not only as Singaporeans, but as world citizens.
@alanbgtan
@alanbgtan Месяц назад
I am so proud of Singapore who has produced Kishore and Mr Chew of TikTok CEO.
@mcgaretse77
@mcgaretse77 Месяц назад
too bad... we SG still have a large numbers like Calvin cheng + Bihari... who are anti-china and muslim ...😂
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Месяц назад
Kishore say other countries not now dominated by superpowers.... unless that superpower is China or Russia
@limayanon
@limayanon Месяц назад
He is talking like a dick
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Месяц назад
I am a Singaporean and I am not proud of this person. Please don’t speak for all Singaporeans.
@bauyeung88
@bauyeung88 Месяц назад
As a HKer, I’m very happy seeing my country China stands up to challenge the Win/Lose strategy initiated by US. Btw, I’m proud to be a Chinese.
@tayan6041
@tayan6041 Месяц назад
You are not really a HKer.
@user-vf4hj3np8e
@user-vf4hj3np8e Месяц назад
@@tayan6041well it's none of your business, right? that's what you think a HKer should be....
@curtiswong7280
@curtiswong7280 Месяц назад
@@tayan6041 I'm a HKer too and I agree with him
@Howaretheygonnaknow
@Howaretheygonnaknow Месяц назад
Sorry to say, you are not HKer but a Xianggangren. HKers don’t think like you.
@Howaretheygonnaknow
@Howaretheygonnaknow Месяц назад
⁠@@user-vf4hj3np8eit’s none of your business neither. Stay away from RU-vid.
@SH-np8hz
@SH-np8hz Месяц назад
I am a proud S’porean. Great respect to Mr. Kishore. Next time pls invite someone who is competent or on par with Mr Kishore. Don’t waste his time. Mr. Kishore was calm and took the stage very well. Love his analogy of BOAT. Lastly, I have no problem dealing with China or any country.
@mojazzz284
@mojazzz284 Месяц назад
Schnell, a China expert without having any clue about China
@hughkee
@hughkee 8 минут назад
as a chinese, i'd love american gov got more experts like schnell, and tat gonna MAGA🤣🤣
@lvjinbin28
@lvjinbin28 2 месяца назад
Americans talk about issues in China or around China, do you see Chinese talk about Black Lives Matter, Cuba, Mexico?
@SometimesIamNot
@SometimesIamNot 2 месяца назад
China is too busy , but not at competing USA
@mervynhing
@mervynhing 2 месяца назад
ALL the time
@snowlee-ml7rr
@snowlee-ml7rr 2 месяца назад
In recent decades, Uncle Sam has devoted too much energy to dealing with the affairs of other countries thousands of miles away, but it has no solution to the problems within the United States (such as outdated infrastructure, drug problems, gun problems, racial issues, and political line issues, medical insurance issues, etc.), the collapse of the United States will start from within.
@deanzaZZR
@deanzaZZR 2 месяца назад
@@mervynhingIn the news yes, In the FM's press conference, no.
@lvjinbin28
@lvjinbin28 2 месяца назад
@@snowlee-ml7rr Because it is the United States that is pushing those issues to be greater, like sending congressmen to stand with Hong Kong rioters, funding overseas Uyghur jihadists, arming Taiwanese separatists, encouraging the Philippines to confront China, and blocking the free trade area between China, Japan and South Korea. It's all Pivot to Asia containment. This is why the United States keeps talking about China, and the United States blames China for its wolf warrior diplomacy. Americans feels angry when they failed to bully China. The way the United States wants to maintain its hegemony is to trip up its opponents. It's the equivalent of putting nails in Bolt's shoes. But China still hasn't interfereed in foreign internal affairs on other nations, China does not fund Black Lives Matter, Proud Boys, does not station troops in Cuba, does not encourage Venezuela to threaten the United States, and does not regime-change Mexico to be an anti-American regime. If the United States can take advantage of China's shortcomings, China will try to improve it. be better yourself to surpass rival.
@gingermintrose
@gingermintrose 2 месяца назад
Mr.Schell exhibits Western-biased narratives about China but is not apt to debate Mr. Muhabani. Thank you, Mr. Muhabani, for your cogent and realistic analysis outside Western media.
@SingaporeMJ
@SingaporeMJ 2 месяца назад
Im seeing as an Asian biased narratives from Mr Muhabani.. He has a myopic view on China i guess.. i find Mr Schell has legit reasons to question China intentions.. Like covid/their wolf warrior tactics/debt trapping/disregarding some International laws and norms! Its too costly to trust China with its expansionistic behaviour..!!
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Месяц назад
Absolutely good job USA USA USA 🇺🇲
@loktom4068
@loktom4068 Месяц назад
One is a very wise and peace loving man, while the other is on second hand oxymoron.
@thegracienetwork7847
@thegracienetwork7847 Месяц назад
Your insecure bias against USA makes you sound small and silly
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Месяц назад
Muhabani analysis is based outside western media but well inside CCP state media
@VictorACYang
@VictorACYang Месяц назад
If possible,I’d like Dr. Kishore to be the Secretary General of the UN. Perfect fit!
@44bett
@44bett 8 дней назад
AGREE
@Jason-gs7qn
@Jason-gs7qn Месяц назад
看了大家的评论,作为中国人,非常感谢大家对中国的理解和支持。
@snwoody001
@snwoody001 Месяц назад
天下苦美久矣!
@tsunshinegal9102
@tsunshinegal9102 Месяц назад
我是来自新加坡🇸🇬,可是祖先来自中国 🇨🇳。 世界和平,世界不要战争就好。
@user-tj2nm3db3e
@user-tj2nm3db3e Месяц назад
@@tsunshinegal9102中国人也不喜欢战争,可是美国到处煽风点火!
@davidwoon6402
@davidwoon6402 Месяц назад
Be my guest 💓🇨🇳 💓
@miroperinich2495
@miroperinich2495 12 дней назад
不支持中国。 至少可以说,你们的文明对我来说很奇怪。 我不相信你的美丽故事,因为不可能。
@jasmineloi7345
@jasmineloi7345 2 месяца назад
As a Singaporean, I am so proud of my country and so proud of Kishore Mahbubani.
@troutstalker7855
@troutstalker7855 2 месяца назад
I'm not Singaporean, but, I think SG is a wonderful country as a whole and kishore has demonstrated once again what a pro and an amateur looks like.
@greentea8852
@greentea8852 2 месяца назад
Singapore has a lot of brilliant people. My favourite politician and leader is Mr. Lee Kuan Yew.
@kongkong1364
@kongkong1364 Месяц назад
be warned, usa has increasing influence on sg gov
@ggc7318
@ggc7318 Месяц назад
Sorry, Kishore is the biggest smiling snake. The USA and the West are not perfect , but China ?
@parnamsaini4751
@parnamsaini4751 Месяц назад
Really??
@anandachong
@anandachong Месяц назад
that american guy answered none of the questions raised to him but instead keeps demonizing China and tried to push Kishore to a corner of which Kishore was able to retort so well and eloquently.
@angusmckenzie9622
@angusmckenzie9622 Месяц назад
@anandachong "that american guy answered none of t..." You didn't watch this video, did you. "push Kishore into a corner" ? One question about Chinese aggression which Muhbubani avoided by passing China's "difficulties" with India, Japan, Vietnam as difficulties. In his vanilla, benign portrayal of CCP China, Mahbubani overlooks the pacifying influence of the 7th Fleet.
@yaucharles91
@yaucharles91 Месяц назад
​@@angusmckenzie9622 Kishore did mention great power have their own interest! The point he stress is that we need to standup to China and also live with China. He also state it is normal to have dispute anong countries. Do not have a "snap view" on China. Look at broader pictures. China have dispute but did not result into a war.
@angusmckenzie9622
@angusmckenzie9622 Месяц назад
@yaucharles "K ishore did mention great power..." That illustrates, perfectly, the weakness in Mahbubani's position on China. In 1950 China invaded South Korea and Tibet. 1962, invaded India. 1979 invaded Vietnam. All that restrains CCP from war against its neighbours is the US 7th Fleet. Don't be fooled by Mahbubani's avuncular musings, he's out of touch.
@budawang77
@budawang77 Месяц назад
Hardly. The "American guy" (it would be polite of you to use his name) asked some good questions of Kishore who was also quite good at avoiding answering some of them.
@alanbgtan
@alanbgtan Месяц назад
And I was surprised that Rorry did not ask Orville that either and brush it off
@jameshack485
@jameshack485 Месяц назад
Orville Schell is completely condescending when he speaks of China and Asia overall. He thinks with a 20th century mindset and is ill prepared for dealing with China in the 21st century. He is a caricature of the hot-headed American who acts before he thinks. A complete neocon who is overly confident of America's capabilities because our last wars have been victories against Iraq and Afghanistan. He should review America's massive failures in Asia during the Vietnam and Korean conflicts. I'm heartened to hear diplomats like Mr. Mahbubani who are much calmer and thoughtful in their speech. China is on the rise and there's not much America or the West can do about it.
@hue4281
@hue4281 Месяц назад
Very impressed with Mahbubani's character, intelligence and speech. A great person and definitely would be a great leader of the world if there's a choice.
@NZkiwihaisun
@NZkiwihaisun 2 месяца назад
Orville just keeps accusing Kishore with west ignorance. He have not answered any question effectively yet. How he can be selected to have a debate with Kishore. He likes high school study pretending he knows something….
@cirakchitocaldino7398
@cirakchitocaldino7398 2 месяца назад
Apa yang disampaikan Orville sangat tidak bermutu; ia memegang teguh pandangan tahun 1980-2010...., yang mana sudah tidak relevan dengan situasi dan kondisi geopolitik saat ini. Saran; undang pembicara yang lebih cerdas dan menguasai kondisi terkini....
@Aransa-Khan
@Aransa-Khan 2 месяца назад
You are right. That Orville is like a high school kid.
@monipenny408
@monipenny408 2 месяца назад
U$ is practically a terror state, currently funding and backing Gaza ge no. This is all unfolding now, today!!!
@dut5766
@dut5766 2 месяца назад
Lol
@troutstalker7855
@troutstalker7855 2 месяца назад
ither he is very navie or thinks the rest of us are stupid. Why do I need to listen to him? He is simply parroting what the US government is saying, for that I can watch CNN.
@user-fu5ng2qi2d
@user-fu5ng2qi2d 2 месяца назад
One is a intellect and the other is lost in space....floats from one anti China point to the next but does not have a comprehensive logical argument... It's really not fair to put this guy in the same room with a intellect.
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Месяц назад
Exactly and Kishore is pro-china. You're on your side and we are on ours 🇺🇲
@Lonelyheart1776
@Lonelyheart1776 Месяц назад
Can’t agree more with your assessment. We know who is the intellect and who is the lost guy. 😂😂😂
@Queen731.
@Queen731. Месяц назад
It is fair because he calls himself a China expert.
@gust5992
@gust5992 Месяц назад
@@Queen731. 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@user-tr5vs9gm4r
@user-tr5vs9gm4r Месяц назад
He is just repeating what he read from Western medias. Can't blame him on feeding his brain on it
@houm7571
@houm7571 Месяц назад
This dude isn't even on kishore's level. He not only systematically dismantled him but also schooled him on every single issue. Hands down sir.
@lasercladjoe
@lasercladjoe Месяц назад
LONG LONG LIVE KISHORE MAHBUBANI 🙏🙏🙏
@MKhan-sd7hu
@MKhan-sd7hu 2 месяца назад
No doubt Sir Kishore is a master-class.
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Месяц назад
Wumao
@robertcwchin5872
@robertcwchin5872 Месяц назад
​@@TacticalMayois a sour grape
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Месяц назад
@@robertcwchin5872 wait till you see what we do.
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Месяц назад
@@robertcwchin5872 wait till you see what sour grape brings you.
@robertcwchin5872
@robertcwchin5872 Месяц назад
@@TacticalMayo I wonder. Are you an agent?
@kamwong8118
@kamwong8118 Месяц назад
The scholarship and patience of Kishore put to shame the folly and bias of Orville.
@VChong1991
@VChong1991 Месяц назад
Orville alreaddy made up his mind to bash China the moment he sat his pale ass down on that chair.
@tvc3mye
@tvc3mye Месяц назад
Is there any evidence to support your view then?
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Месяц назад
In the eyes of Indonesians and Malaysians, Singapore is a Chinese colony. If Singapore and China get too close
@sxyline4807
@sxyline4807 Месяц назад
@@sam123sderok, you can minus another 20 % of that India in that calculation and how much % is that? US math is any good these days? 😅
@meganfoxbf
@meganfoxbf Месяц назад
a famous china lackey
@RSydneyChan
@RSydneyChan Месяц назад
It seems to me that this other guy does not know much about China. He kept mentioned about the Tiananmen massacre when everyone knows that there is no massacre in Tiananmen Square and that that was a failed Color Revolution started by the US.
@ZoroasterIII
@ZoroasterIII 10 дней назад
The colour revolutions only started in 2005. Yes, there was a massacre. Fucking Chinese bot.
@bemmychan1518
@bemmychan1518 8 дней назад
This old "China Expert" learns about China through his mainstream newspapers! He has no idea what the Chinese and the world today really see the US! 😂😂😂😂
@osmanjerry3272
@osmanjerry3272 7 дней назад
Orville is few westerners that have good sense on China issue, that can be seen from many of his forums. I am of the view that Orville is over obsessed with his opposition stance in a debate that blurs his head in steadfastly pursuit of issues clearly rebutted. It’s unfortunate.
@TheFantomRogue
@TheFantomRogue Месяц назад
Kishmore is a LIVING LEGEND!!!!!!!
@wangchienlooi1288
@wangchienlooi1288 2 месяца назад
I am so very impressed that KISHORE is so comprehensive, consistent and clear in his thoughts on CHINA. He has articulated his answers simply and persuasively and has DEFINITELY left his mark on the INTERNATIONAL scene as arguably one of the BEST ASIAN thinkers spanning the 20th & 21st century!!!! He has done Spore PROUD.
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Месяц назад
A large number of Chinese people smuggle into the United States. Have you ever seen Americans smuggling into China? The Chinese are engaging in fraud in Myanmar, the Philippines, and Cambodia. Have you ever seen Westerners engaging in fraud in these countries? China is reclaiming reefs and building islands off the coast of the Philippines. Have you ever seen Westerners reclaiming reefs and building islands in the South China Sea?
@michaelloo8985
@michaelloo8985 2 месяца назад
Kishore is excellent.. can't say much about Orville who went off his supposed talk but just attacked venomously at Kishore for his rational and insightful views. Kishore is calm, elegant, composed and as usual brilliant in his reponse. Well done, Kishore
@steveyeung4797
@steveyeung4797 Месяц назад
"Orville who went off his supposed talk but just attacked venomously"
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Месяц назад
​@@steveyeung4797just remember either the United States wins or everyone will lose.
@ytfanlingeric
@ytfanlingeric Месяц назад
Orville is so anti-China that he did not show much professionalism.
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Месяц назад
A large number of Chinese people smuggle into the United States. Have you ever seen Americans smuggling into China? The Chinese are engaging in fraud in Myanmar, the Philippines, and Cambodia. Have you ever seen Westerners engaging in fraud in these countries? China is reclaiming reefs and building islands off the coast of the Philippines. Have you ever seen Westerners reclaiming reefs and building islands in the South China Sea?
@alvinchua9436
@alvinchua9436 Месяц назад
Not sure how Orville can be a China Expert when he only represented 12% of the population and has no Geopolitical view of what is happening outside US. He is so self-centred and unprepared. Like what someone mentioned here, he has no stand to what he is saying. I do hope that he knows where Singapore is on the map as 80% of the Americans don't even know where Singapore is. Asians are definitely not more comfortable with US. In fact, Asians are the true believer of free trade and fair competiton.
@chrisseanbala
@chrisseanbala Месяц назад
As a Singaporean and Asian I am proud that Kishore is providing a much more balanced perspective to this matter than the so called China expert who seems to be so clueless.
@dypk.2all
@dypk.2all 2 месяца назад
Why doesn't Shnell talk about Okinawa, Chagos, Gracia Diego, Hawaii? Why the US comes all the way to South East Asia to tell Asean what they should or should not do? China is the largest exporter to the world. So isn't it China's interest to safeguard the waters in the South China Sea. Why has the Us poking its nose into the affairs of countries in the Far East?
@greentea8852
@greentea8852 2 месяца назад
To keep their hegemon. No country is allowed to surpass usa.
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Месяц назад
​@@greentea8852and they will not.
@greentea8852
@greentea8852 Месяц назад
@@TacticalMayoYes, they will not be able to keep their hegemony.
@Cheesecake99YearsAgo
@Cheesecake99YearsAgo Месяц назад
​@@TacticalMayoit is a gradual process through dedollarisation Welcome to the new world 😅
@sheavelte2917
@sheavelte2917 Месяц назад
​​@@TacticalMayoThe US play dirty game to keep his hegemony, but soon China will surpass the US without doubt.
@LanceyOwen
@LanceyOwen Месяц назад
The Orville guy is just a typical Anglo-Saxon "media" on China. Kishore is the only adult on the stage and he handled Orville beautifully.
@user-qq7qr2uf3z
@user-qq7qr2uf3z Месяц назад
Bro you get the point 😂
@user-if1ur5td1x
@user-if1ur5td1x Месяц назад
Lots of these old white Bois are scared as shit...
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Месяц назад
Where do Anglo-saxons come from? Kishore uses that 'racist' term. Maybe by CCP standards he did well. He wouldn't convience anyone else. The only slightly vieled threats that china, no longer the mouse - if ever it was - is now an elephant and needs more room. Make room or get rolled over. Threat threat facing American allies and non-allies a like.
@orangekeita
@orangekeita Месяц назад
Anglo saxon is no racisium. You can call me an Asian. I wont be offended. So whats your problem here?😂 Is it not true that the five eyes are Anglo-Saxon run countries?​@@Andy-P
@orangekeita
@orangekeita Месяц назад
I would say the host was doing fairly good job too. She's giving opportunities to both sides to ask and answer questions and no rude interuptions which you have often seen in this type of dialogue. I only hope it could be longer😂.
@vamoua4036
@vamoua4036 Месяц назад
I believe that Xi is just one of the most patriotic person for his people for serving his country tirelessly since he was 18. All that he wants to do is to better his people but nothing is perfect and some people do get stepped on in the process, basically competitors.
@mrblueyish
@mrblueyish Месяц назад
Agreed with Mr. Mahbubani on most things, with a few exceptions including in particular his diplomatic praise of the US (especially of Biden being a "careful, sensitive president" - that's absurd). -A fellow Singaporean
@haniahannslew4108
@haniahannslew4108 Месяц назад
Exactly. I almost vomited when Kishmore praised Biden.
@nofakenews2041
@nofakenews2041 Месяц назад
He just being polite
@spadeysay6846
@spadeysay6846 Месяц назад
As usual, his diplomatic language. But you can sense the sarcasm.
@sstone123
@sstone123 Месяц назад
He was just doing it for polite.
@kpewliu4348
@kpewliu4348 Месяц назад
Khishor is truly an excellent diplomat. He's able to tell the Americans: "South East Asians are not stupid, you fool", in a very polite acceptable way
@edc4052
@edc4052 Месяц назад
He is a CCP apologist.
@popcorn6931
@popcorn6931 Месяц назад
He indirectly admitted that most south East Asian are blind to its neighbors’ interest when it comes to China territorial expansions…. Almost fully aligned with Sno-Russian interest more so than the west
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Месяц назад
Kishore is mouth piece of the CCP
@gabrielchong1322
@gabrielchong1322 Месяц назад
You fot that right@@Andy-P
@edc4052
@edc4052 Месяц назад
@@Andy-P Can I give you 20 thumbs up?
@kaimingraymondchoi9909
@kaimingraymondchoi9909 Месяц назад
Always a great applause to Kishore. He speaks for 88% of the world population.
@simonlai7377
@simonlai7377 Месяц назад
More than that, my friend.
@priyanshshrivastava9013
@priyanshshrivastava9013 Месяц назад
All except g7
@KiriAatam
@KiriAatam Месяц назад
No, doesn't. The Chinese may like him as his views are bent towards them. Educated Indians don't regard him well. He is thought of to be a Chinese puppet and don't know much about India but pretends to be an expert on Indian affairs.
@Howaretheygonnaknow
@Howaretheygonnaknow Месяц назад
Kishore’s opinion is extremely biased, and I strongly advise him to relinquish his Singapore passport and move to the ideal country he promotes. Meanwhile, he portrays the US as a reluctant loser, desperately fighting to maintain its status, which just makes me want to laugh out loud, especially considering that the platform of RU-vid, where he is active, was invented in the US. In short, this guy is nothing but a traitor to the free world.
@PanLi-of7ru
@PanLi-of7ru Месяц назад
@@Howaretheygonnaknow Isn’t the United States a reluctant loser? In 2016, the United States tried to launch a war against China in the South China Sea, but China accurately reported the location of its aircraft carrier and the United States was forced to flee. Since 2018, the United States has launched a trade war and a technology war in an attempt to prevent China's development. However, China is still the largest trading partner of more than 100 countries today, and China has already made 7nm chips. What other means can the United States use? Isn’t America just a reluctant loser? What's more, the "free world" you mentioned refers to the one that bans tictok? Really funny.
@twq318
@twq318 Месяц назад
Kishore has so much depth & vast knowledge about China. Why did the US send some Dumb Shallow Propagandist for this intellectual conversation - it's a waste of his time.
@laowantongchau
@laowantongchau Месяц назад
It was an insult to professor Kishore.
@sammytsang7479
@sammytsang7479 Месяц назад
Orville getting schooled but doesn't know it. Everyone in that room does 😂
@dontaskmewhy100
@dontaskmewhy100 Месяц назад
China never tell any other country not to deal with USA Who is wolf warrior?
@blahblah-yx7bl
@blahblah-yx7bl Месяц назад
usa is like the bully in the kindergarden.. i mean the level of the politic in the usa is so low....
@timmyg44
@timmyg44 Месяц назад
Details matter! America is not about to attack Mexico with Chinese technology.
@user-ei3fp8yj5i
@user-ei3fp8yj5i Месяц назад
china should hands off Taiwan. stop faking like the wolf in the Little Red Riding Hood.
@TheTruth-88
@TheTruth-88 2 месяца назад
Uncle Kishore always amazed me.. wise man talking.. full of knowledge, no BS, straight forward, and very informative. Every young people need to listen to him. The white old guy definitely full of BS, full of hypocrisy.
@Western_Decline
@Western_Decline 2 месяца назад
@@rr-rickycry harder. West is in decline due to its intellectually inferior population
@Djursnerable
@Djursnerable 2 месяца назад
Ah a racist bot.
@joy1ess
@joy1ess 2 месяца назад
harvard graduate. he’s no joke 😌
@wilsonlee8904
@wilsonlee8904 2 месяца назад
Spot on !
@vbch1396
@vbch1396 2 месяца назад
​@@rr-rickyI fully agree with Kishores viewpoints. Frankly speaking many world conflicts are caused by the US involvement. Without the US involvement, most conflicts could be resolved by the parties involved.
@bobl9117
@bobl9117 Месяц назад
It is stunning how little Orville Schell had to say beyond judging China with ideology and how little self reflection on the US policy toward China. As a liberal writer who is supposed to know China better, he was completely destroyed by Kishore.
@walking_luggage8105
@walking_luggage8105 Месяц назад
Mr. Orville, please sort out your facts. The so-called Senkaku island is actually called the Diaoyu island, and it belongs to the Republic of China (AKA Taiwan), but it is occupied illegally by Japan.
@tianlin4027
@tianlin4027 Месяц назад
Orville: Of what nation are you a citizen? Kishore: Singapore. Orville: Are you a citizen of another nation? Kishore: No professor. Orville: Have you applied a Chinese citizenship? Kishore: Professor, I served my nation, Singapore. No, I did not. Orville: Do you have a Singapore passport? Kishore: Yes, professor. I served in Singapore government for more than 30 years. Orville: Do you have any passports from other countries? Kishore: No, professor.
@themarksong
@themarksong Месяц назад
😂🤣😂
@eulescholz8530
@eulescholz8530 Месяц назад
Is this a persiflage of the us senat grilling tik tok Ceo???
@MeiinUK
@MeiinUK Месяц назад
"Are you a citizen of Singapore?" "Yes, yes, I am." "Are you aware that you are not supposed to serve another country, if you served for Singapore ? Cos your army background should mean that you are tied to Singapore's civil service tier only." "But Singapore has no more room to live in and to stay. What am I supposed to do ?" "Should you not have thought about that before you applied ?" "Isn't Singapore using Common Law from the UK?" "Are you trying to force indirectly changes to the constitution of the British Common Law system, in order to advance your own self interests here ? Indirectly forcing Britain to be damaged ? " "But we have now globalised, and those old things, and constitutions are changed. I am loyal to my country." "Did you send out the memo? If you are loyal to your country, then why do you work for your enemy ? " "You implied that the are chinese first as a race, before you are an actual citizen of a nation ?" "Are you trying to find the gaps in the missing translation, and therefore get as much coverages as you could. And want ?" "Are you implying that there has been no changed since the first and second world war, and that we are still living in an actual wartime zone ?? "
@watchitontube
@watchitontube Месяц назад
Yes, this represents the mentality of the US. Stupid and sad.
@localgai9182
@localgai9182 Месяц назад
@marcs5117
@marcs5117 2 месяца назад
Im comfortable with Chinas rise…from the Philippines
@petervote7914
@petervote7914 2 месяца назад
There is a rumor going around that U.S. would allow Marcos to access the stolen money and assets that Marcos' father stashed in U.S. if Marcos follows the anti China line. What are the pinoys' views on this?
@aloyd6157
@aloyd6157 2 месяца назад
of course, everyone knows.
@danielng4454
@danielng4454 2 месяца назад
Sensible bro 😊
@n23404
@n23404 2 месяца назад
You sure China gonna eat the baby eggs you guys eat at 12 days old eggs 😂😂😂
@kevinwu8751
@kevinwu8751 2 месяца назад
​@@n23404But America is actually really weak. Become a paper tiger. While boasting that they are the most powerful country in the world, they can't solve the drug problem that even the smallest country in the world can solve, and they can only blame others.😂😂😂
@VL-inquisitor
@VL-inquisitor Месяц назад
But the 'Nine Dash Line' was not created by China, it (or the original 11 Dash Line) was actually created by the Repubic of Taiwan under the KMT government. In the post WWII period, this was widely accepted by other states including the USA. China has merely redefined it as the 'Nine Dash Line' in view of changing geopolitics. Again it is the changing dynamics in this playing field that see countries like the USA and the Phillippines raising opposing claims to China's Nine Dash Line. ASEAN countries have been working on a code of conduct on resolving territorial disputes, but outside forces have been meddling this co-operative and peaceful migration.
@Drkennethkin
@Drkennethkin Месяц назад
Absolutely correct that the nine dash line was created by the Republic of China (now Taiwan government ) after WWII.
@alexeyzayko3464
@alexeyzayko3464 21 день назад
I'm from Russia. Mr. Mahbubani please accept my deep respect. We have good diplomats but you outperform them evidently.
@wyphonema4024
@wyphonema4024 Месяц назад
I am from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Since 15th century China already trade With Melaka. They never conquered us, only trade. BUT the west Portuguese, English and Dutch came with cannons to conquer us and said we belong to them. They each stayed for years.
@wooyyeah
@wooyyeah Месяц назад
I'm from the US, but my parents are from Singapore, the western colonial powers didn't conquer us for years, they did so for Centuries! Hundreds of years! They even fought each other to conquer us.
@ShailendraSINGH-jk2ev
@ShailendraSINGH-jk2ev Месяц назад
KARMA IS A B ITCH
@ShailendraSINGH-jk2ev
@ShailendraSINGH-jk2ev Месяц назад
THEY DESTROYED WORLD WITH GUNS VALLENTINES AND PLASTIC YOUNGSTERS@@wooyyeah
@jrpark05
@jrpark05 Месяц назад
BOT POST
@try_dc6366
@try_dc6366 Месяц назад
Chinese Bots activated in comments to enforce Chinese narrative.
@nizicike759
@nizicike759 2 месяца назад
Kishore is treasure that for mankind
@ninersnation3298
@ninersnation3298 2 месяца назад
i wish the chinese have superb english speaking trash talkers like kishore, vijay prasard or john mearsheimer.
@donkeykong8792
@donkeykong8792 2 месяца назад
​@@ninersnation3298Chinese don't speak good English in general😂, the only scholar I can think of who can deliver his message properly in English is 李世默
@ninersnation3298
@ninersnation3298 2 месяца назад
@@donkeykong8792 THERE IS ABSOLUTELY ZERO!! Chinese can't just take bll shtt everytime from the west, both from western media or western politicians. The only chinese diplomats that fire back the bull s that i could think of are: yang jiechi in the alaska summitt and hua chunying's on her X account. I'm like we need to fire back garbage back. we can't take blows every time. we need good english speaking chinese to defend ourselves. we can't rely on people like jeffrey saks or john mearsheimer to defend us every time. We need to fight back ourselves!!!
@russellfloyd2732
@russellfloyd2732 Месяц назад
Maybe ccp
@joellis5915
@joellis5915 Месяц назад
@@ninersnation3298 All the names you mentioned are the top scholars speaking justification and truth. Trash is within yourselves as a trash person.
@ashwindaftary4561
@ashwindaftary4561 Месяц назад
The questions raised by the US expert on Geopolitics very much wonderfully answered by Mr. Kishore of Asean countries.
@user-db6iy7lm1v
@user-db6iy7lm1v 2 месяца назад
Prof. Kishore brilliant answers and rebuttal.
@rr-ricky
@rr-ricky 2 месяца назад
kishore is a a joke. ASEAN tolerates china because of its size and economic power. but ASEAN knows of chinese agenda of dominating the region. ASEAN likes the US because of its ideals and needs its military to combat a bully dhina. kishore always plays to his pro-china narrative.
@Western_Decline
@Western_Decline 2 месяца назад
The gap in IQ and knowledge of history between Kishore and this Whit-e creature is astounding.
@WilliamBenedict
@WilliamBenedict 2 месяца назад
Mr. Kishore Mahbubani is very learned and speaks a lot of common sense. Thank you.
@parnamsaini4751
@parnamsaini4751 Месяц назад
Is it?
@tvc3mye
@tvc3mye Месяц назад
Is it not? Provide the context then
@kevinlin4895
@kevinlin4895 Месяц назад
Oh man, what a beatdown. Schell comes in like a trash talking rookie who disrespectingly ignores the customary glove bump and starts throwing a flurry of jabs based on the usual US propaganda narrative. Kishore just calmly and effortlessly brush aside all those attacks and lands some monstrous hits.. "only one country that passes judgement on other's form of government".. a beautiful and glorious smackdown. Wolf warrior diplomacy is basically China taking off the kids gloves and stop taking sh!t from the US. He has the galls of accusing China of aggression?!? China is not the one who goes around instigating coups, fomenting unrest, carrying out assassinations, and outright overthrowing sovereign governments that refuse to kowtow to US hegemony. And they never talk about the reason why China is resorting to the strategy in the South China Seas is because the US has gone on record talking about the strategy of militarizing the island chains and cutting off China's trade routes. "Perception of US containment?" Please.. what the US is doing right now with CHIPs and forming anti-China alliances like quad and aukus is nothing short of perpetrating a cold war
@yclee9012
@yclee9012 Месяц назад
The United States is too young a country to understand how human civilization works
@peacesoup1008
@peacesoup1008 2 месяца назад
Great push back, Kishore! And backed with truth, not insinuations and propaganda 👏👍
@user-wi7it2mx6z
@user-wi7it2mx6z Месяц назад
Certainly, Kishore is skilled at hiding his propaganda under the veil of knowledge and the ability to articulate that knowledge. He is skilled at being SUBTLE. And that's dangerous.
@tsunshinegal9102
@tsunshinegal9102 Месяц назад
@@user-wi7it2mx6z: what propaganda? While USA interferes in other nations … China is building bridges over land, over mountains 🏔️, across seas & underneath waters too, improving their infrastructure, transportation, tele communications etc. I think 🤔 if America 🇺🇸 starts to care & build their own nation & infrastructure- it would be good. Eg Baltimore bridge needs strong anchor ⚓️ & repair ! Care about your own backyard than interfering in other peoples backyard.
@ptan4120
@ptan4120 2 месяца назад
Kishore is a gem of mankind and a beacon of humanity.
@mervynhing
@mervynhing 2 месяца назад
pathetic level of stupidity in this comment despite Mahbubani's exposed nonsense over the past decade. How do you do it?
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo 2 месяца назад
Kishore is a wumao CCP shill.
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo 2 месяца назад
​@@mervynhingyes they should have never wasted their time bringing Kishore on the show knowing that he's a CCP shill.
@nizicike759
@nizicike759 2 месяца назад
​@@mervynhing only pathetic here is you ,don't be shame and admit it
@Youevilpeoplewillpay
@Youevilpeoplewillpay 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@user-bm5tc4bb8v
@user-bm5tc4bb8v Месяц назад
Without the United States, our earth would be peaceful for a long time.
@haniahannslew4108
@haniahannslew4108 Месяц назад
💯 Correct 👍
@yjia7396
@yjia7396 Месяц назад
Mr Kishore Mahbubani's level is much more higher than Mr. Orville Schell's.
@dryeoh2023
@dryeoh2023 2 месяца назад
Kishore has my highest respect for being direct and impartial.
@user-wi7it2mx6z
@user-wi7it2mx6z Месяц назад
On the contrary, Kishore EVADED answers to some CHALLENGING questions. He seems to have a personal agenda that is aligned with China's. Kishore seems to be a China PROPAGANDIST. He hails China's economic success while IGNORING the PROCESS of China's achieving such success. He does not acknowledge the RESPONSIBILITY that should go with China's BULLYING actions and other MISBEHAVIOR.
@tsunshinegal9102
@tsunshinegal9102 Месяц назад
@@user-wi7it2mx6z: 😂aren’t you biased ? Your world 🌍 map 🗺️ has America in the center ???
@jeanhuynh8548
@jeanhuynh8548 2 месяца назад
Kishore was outstanding!
@zafarm6101
@zafarm6101 Месяц назад
Feels like this day a very polite and patient Headmaster (Mahbubani ) had to look after a rude and impolte brat for long hours.
@44bett
@44bett 8 дней назад
Well said.
@Michael-nt5rp
@Michael-nt5rp Месяц назад
Professor Mahbubani is someone who combines the intellect of the West and the wisdom of the East! 🙏👏
@Sy-wm9wq
@Sy-wm9wq 2 месяца назад
the world need more people like Kishore, listening to him can prevent war.
@edwardlim7253
@edwardlim7253 Месяц назад
Agree.. unfortunately if one "exceptional" country, U.S., does not listen.. there's nothing the rest of the 160 or so countries can do.. sigh..
@lagrangewei
@lagrangewei Месяц назад
Kishore having serve on the UN security council knows how the real world works. these scholar-journalist only know paper theory.
@westwoodly
@westwoodly Месяц назад
Why aren't more world organisations or contentious countries tap on his wisdom?
@parnamsaini4751
@parnamsaini4751 Месяц назад
@@westwoodlywisdom.. really??
@davidwoon6402
@davidwoon6402 Месяц назад
Not forgetting. And Prof Jeffrey Sachs too. One of the last few Godly Americans. 🙏
@briancousins3101
@briancousins3101 Месяц назад
Orville says "we know what happened in Hong Kong". He either does not know, or feigns ignorance, about the treaty with the British and the HK activities of the US Congress-funded NED & CIA.
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Месяц назад
When did he say that? I cannot recall any reference to HK
@rap3208
@rap3208 Месяц назад
My initial thought when I heard that was , "Go ahead tell us what happened in Hongkong" to see how out of touch or uninformed he was.
@MrAbklee
@MrAbklee Месяц назад
What happen was a lucky thing that China able to overcome the chaos that US/UK created in HK
@paytonmcdermott9111
@paytonmcdermott9111 Месяц назад
He probably thinks that stuff was good because the cia was spreading "democracy". Cultural imperialism is taken for granted in the US. Supremacy is baked into a lot of western ideologist thinking
@andycheng5639
@andycheng5639 Месяц назад
It is shocking to see that Orville is being a "China expert" for decades but yet he doesn't seem to know China at all.
@wolftotem2367
@wolftotem2367 Месяц назад
Sorry but Mr orville sounds like the dear old gobbling turkey that we used to keep in our backyard..😂
@TomW-ks3gp
@TomW-ks3gp Месяц назад
The host is great, Mz. Daniels. Mr. Mahbubani performed well. Orville Schell didn’t do his job. He didn’t use the chance to explain the standing, analyze the opponent, or the practical approach. He remained aggressive but unfortunately nothing more than a unprepared journalist. If USA relied on these kind of scholars for decision making, they need to rebuild the org and re-consider the decisions.
@mkang666
@mkang666 Месяц назад
Seeing how this American speaks make me understand why the US is declining. Blinded by arrogance and I am quite sure what is in their mind. If America goes down, make sure all others go along.
@limayanon
@limayanon Месяц назад
your mind is twisted
@user-tr5vs9gm4r
@user-tr5vs9gm4r Месяц назад
@@limayanon America is twisted. America has no power on its own population so it needs to dominate foreign population instead
@sebastianbarthez
@sebastianbarthez Месяц назад
​@@limayanonI bet the twisted mind is yours not his.
@limayanon
@limayanon Месяц назад
@@sebastianbarthez maybe it is yours read it again
@kmsb1one
@kmsb1one Месяц назад
@mkang666 Dead on! @lim-sh..t hahaha, just stay in your delusional space with the unkempt finger wagging Orville (popcorn) boy.
@seeker2118
@seeker2118 2 месяца назад
Kishore Mabubani is one of the best most insightful geopolitical realist analyst. He has been predicting most of the events unfolding today.
@TheVafa95
@TheVafa95 Месяц назад
Yes, but he gives a partial explanation. A realist, yes, but what about a visionary?
@seeker2118
@seeker2118 Месяц назад
@@TheVafa95 Well I have read all his books written I think since before 2016 and listened to a few of his lectures and most of what he stated are unfolding just as he stated them. Also many of the suggestions he made would have solved many of the issues today that he identified. So I also agree he is also one of the best modern day visionary.
@TheVafa95
@TheVafa95 Месяц назад
@@seeker2118what is his vision for the future? Has he expanded on his analogy of the boat?
@TheVafa95
@TheVafa95 Месяц назад
@@seeker2118 Seeker is a meaningful name you have chosen. These days many children know that through cooperation one can achieve more than through competition and fighting is bad.. Visionary is someone who knows where humanity "has to be going" like Confucius who 2,500 years ago said that, When the perfect order prevails, the world is like a home shared by all. Virtuous and capable people are elected to public offices; trust and peace are the maxims of living among the people..." The closest thing Kishore has said is that we are all on one ship and the ship has no captain. I have not heard him to say, what steps humanity has to take, to have a world governing system to avoid wars and bloodshed. And to guide humanity out of collective danger it is facing. If he has written anything expanding on the analogy of ship, please share it.
@seeker2118
@seeker2118 Месяц назад
@@TheVafa95 The analogy he shared about the planet being a ship and we being all passengers in different cabins is from his book, I think "The Great convergence" where he goes deeper into the great dilemmas humanity now face. The idea of putting our differences aside and ignoring our selfish tendencies as if we don't learn to work together we will end together. His other titles: "Has China Won" and the very short but profound and in my opinion prophetic "Has the West Lost it" are extremely good as they basically predicted the issues that we face today and his suggestions on how these issues could have been avoided. His books will be more interesting for people from the global south as we are better able to relate, but more difficult to accept by Westerners who hold on to a sense of entitlement and superiority.
@qianhao-mw4le
@qianhao-mw4le Месяц назад
peace comes from understanding, but not bulling,US should know this!
@gnkira
@gnkira Месяц назад
well said prof. kishore, wishing from malaysia !
@randallwong5561
@randallwong5561 Месяц назад
If u listen to Orville, he himself gives the game away. He says the concern is about China's hegemonic intentions, when what he really means is that he is concerned about the US losing hegemonic position.
@kmsb1one
@kmsb1one Месяц назад
Spot on!
@MiaoZ99
@MiaoZ99 Месяц назад
Exactly
@seeyian
@seeyian Месяц назад
Simple what ever Orville said about China just replace it by America his statement is 100% trues.
@yaphonghor4409
@yaphonghor4409 Месяц назад
He is defending US imperialism and America's right to subjugate other smaller nation in this world!!!
@rinizhang6031
@rinizhang6031 Месяц назад
As Singaporean , we are proud to have many leaders like Mr. Kishore. As for the west, the quality of the leader is so behind. Totally agreed with Mr Kishore.
@lukecheuk
@lukecheuk Месяц назад
Likewise the "quality" of their "scholars" is on full display with this Orville character, with his emotion infused, catchphrase-laden jibber jabber, words like "wolf warrior" as newly christened by their so called "think"tanks...
@sydlilivale
@sydlilivale Месяц назад
Exactly! Really don't think students from the world should go to american universities and try to learn some knowledge from Orville kind of people. He is one of the representatives of american jokes.
@geoff9858
@geoff9858 Месяц назад
​@@lukecheukI agree with you, the quality has deteriorated the last few decades.
@samuelli3627
@samuelli3627 Месяц назад
As a fellow Singaporean, I strongly disagree with this view, in fact, I am ashamed to have garbage like Kishore or George Yeo who are so shallow, so shortsighted, so stupid
@astroboy-mz9ne
@astroboy-mz9ne Месяц назад
Mr. Orville Schell so stupid and arrogant. In my point of view, he seems so naive what happening to our planet, left and right like a killing field. Question, USA done all this horrible evils. God please bless us our wonderful planet for peace.
@huima8417
@huima8417 Месяц назад
It is annoying that Mr. Schell didn't deliver his opening remarks; didn't respond the moderator's questions: He is not following the rules of this conversation.
@1208rabbit
@1208rabbit Месяц назад
He said condescendingly: We never treat others condescendingly. Only we are qualified to ask questions, and we can freely decide whether to answer questions because I am a noble American.
@jw2994
@jw2994 10 дней назад
That's US way, either my rules or highway
@jasonchan9812
@jasonchan9812 Месяц назад
Heartfelt applauses for Professor Kishore Mahbubani 💯💯💯👍👍👍
@hansweissmann_xviii6754
@hansweissmann_xviii6754 2 месяца назад
Just one question for Orville: name me a third nation other than Canada and Murica that abducted a top-level manager of a company without any charges. Murica did it to the French Alstom! Canada did it to Huawei! What do those actions say about Canada and Murica?!
@blang7017
@blang7017 2 месяца назад
❤❤❤❤
@samliew6610
@samliew6610 2 месяца назад
Good questions 👍🏻
@joelturley4847
@joelturley4847 2 месяца назад
Huawei is a criminal organization
@donkeykong8792
@donkeykong8792 2 месяца назад
National security!
@hansweissmann_xviii6754
@hansweissmann_xviii6754 2 месяца назад
@@donkeykong87921 hour ago National security! THIRD NATION!!! English is your second language?
@waynezw
@waynezw Месяц назад
Respect to Singapore for having a diplomat and scholar like Kishore! A country with meritocracy has shown the world what’s possible when the leaders are decent and capable.
@selenium-es7hl
@selenium-es7hl Месяц назад
I kinda wanted the US to be a meritocracy.
@shanmugaretnam9868
@shanmugaretnam9868 Месяц назад
Thank you , they broke the mould which Kishore Mahubhani was made from , similar craftsman who created Lee Kuan Yew : )
@zeniehudson7098
@zeniehudson7098 Месяц назад
Such governance in Singapore and Malaysia, are influenced by The British ! Not China .not CCP! In China you are not allowed to own any land ! Not even your soul !!
@Wilson24678
@Wilson24678 Месяц назад
@@selenium-es7hl Then how those "nobles" maintain their privilege?
@tayan6041
@tayan6041 Месяц назад
It’s a shame to Singaporan
@ciarankelly4338
@ciarankelly4338 Месяц назад
Enjoy listening to Mr Kishore and his calm,clear demeanour,as for Mr. Schell he claims to be a expert on China,he comes across as a China critic but respect both gentlemen point of view and worked in Asia for twelve years and so glad that I did as I had a blurred view of Asia and thankfully I have a balanced view now. Greetings from Ireland!
@miroperinich2495
@miroperinich2495 12 дней назад
And you are Chinese from Ireland.
@erickylaw
@erickylaw Месяц назад
Does this guy know what happened to HK in 2019-2020? That is color revolution created by the USA.
@supermelville7838
@supermelville7838 Месяц назад
Professor Mahbubani won this debate.
@fffwe3876
@fffwe3876 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@thegracienetwork7847
@thegracienetwork7847 Месяц назад
Kishore was angry at the end because Orville told him over and over again: China is on the wrong path
@meheretnardos1894
@meheretnardos1894 Месяц назад
Definitely
@user-xv3bl7jz7t
@user-xv3bl7jz7t Месяц назад
Orville was stupid. anyone with smarts would have clearly won over this Kishore guy.
@shineluvslambiel
@shineluvslambiel Месяц назад
@@user-xv3bl7jz7tyeah ok 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@blackphoenix114
@blackphoenix114 Месяц назад
A good conversation between an Adult and a toddler.
@patriceesela5000
@patriceesela5000 Месяц назад
😅😅😅
@sydlilivale
@sydlilivale Месяц назад
A conversation between a wise person and a mentally challenged clown.
@andrewfu9363
@andrewfu9363 Месяц назад
exactly
@SYL7Tube
@SYL7Tube Месяц назад
Totally, I can see the reaction of Mr Kishore's face after the toddler has provided his typical Western comments. 😂
@slkoay2969
@slkoay2969 Месяц назад
Truth!
@iamthemedici
@iamthemedici Месяц назад
The level of ignorance of the two Americans made me jaw drops many times
@jw7518
@jw7518 Месяц назад
Kishore is a very educated, wisdom and respectable man! I have to say this one more time.
@qingzhou9983
@qingzhou9983 2 месяца назад
Professor Schell's view on Taiwan is dangerously WRONG. The one who really changed the Peaceful Status Quo, is NOT Xi, IS Taiwan with its independence movement. The base for Kissinger's compromise was rested on Both sides of Taiwan Straits recognized there is Only One China (and Taiwan is Part of China). They only disagree on which one is the legitimate China, PRC or ROC. So silent on Taiwan Independent movement while blaming PRC is Factorially wrong and will lead to war because Taiwan with US support will move to independence and PRC will have no choice but to start a unification War.
@gurubesar8
@gurubesar8 2 месяца назад
You give too much credit for the idiot Orville. He is not a professor and at most he has the level of knowledge of a high school graduate. This tells you the quality of the people at Arthur Ross; Asia Society’s Center on U.S.-China Relations with has a director like this idiot. No world knowledge whatsoever except his own bubble.
@loveblindhate9318
@loveblindhate9318 2 месяца назад
Is Zhou your last name? Pre 1972 KMT Taiwan ROC was UN recognized One China and had a seat in the UN, China didn't. Guess who took Taiwan out and put China in as owner of One China? The DPP are funded by NED and most of their high ranking members have Japanese blood - leftover from WWII. And many of these high ranking member parents served Japanese imperialism....
@psfpower
@psfpower Месяц назад
This, I have to agree with you, those are the facts. It needs to be clarified. But Orville is only a "China expert", he shouldn't know anything about Taiwan.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@JamilAgrami-jh2zz
@JamilAgrami-jh2zz Месяц назад
The more I listen to t his discussion, the more I am convinced that Orville is completely lost in space. Thanks to Dr Kushiro for making the discussion worth watching.
@kmsb1one
@kmsb1one Месяц назад
Not lost, just an indignant curmudgeon peddling anti-China hate. I like the way Kishore finally couldn't hold it in despite his immense diplomatic civility and laughs at the idiot.
@kttec4485
@kttec4485 Месяц назад
So proud of KISHORE. Very wisdom, well analysed and explanation. Applause to you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@ankita33778
@ankita33778 Месяц назад
Kishore you rock
@kenwong4182
@kenwong4182 Месяц назад
How can Orville, with so little understanding about China or the Chinese, be an expert in US - China relations. Only in America, you can always talk yourself into a position with or without knowledge on the subject.
@john8789
@john8789 Месяц назад
I guess this is part of US democracy. As long as your ideology is right, everything else is less of importance.
@watchitontube
@watchitontube Месяц назад
Yes, "Only in America, you can always talk yourself into a position with or without knowledge on the subject." and there are so many of them .
@zenastronomy
@zenastronomy Месяц назад
ideology over meritocracy
@user-hb3gx1zp6m
@user-hb3gx1zp6m Месяц назад
@@watchitontube 是的,当年麦卡锡的“爱国者法案”赶走了一切对中国了解的学者,现在这些所谓的“中国专家”没有一个中国人,没有一个在中国有十年以上的生活经历。所以很多时候他们给政府的报告在我们中国人看来是十分愚蠢以及可笑的。当然,如果你的敌人足够愚蠢,那么我们最好做好一切他崩溃的准备
@MM-sr6fw
@MM-sr6fw Месяц назад
Orville it seems is a paid China “expert” funded by a U.S. bill(300-500 million per year budget) to write and spread lies about China.
@chatreal7396
@chatreal7396 Месяц назад
BRAVO to Kishore provided intellectual views n great knowledge.
@pauloyih1
@pauloyih1 Месяц назад
Dr. Mahbubani, Thank you for your vision and your grasp of the world ----
@RohankrishnaB
@RohankrishnaB 2 месяца назад
I am happy to see Asian superpowers! Its always good to have a counterbalance to western narrative on global issues
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Месяц назад
There will only be one superpower and that is the United States of America 🇺🇲
@rameshpudhucode6862
@rameshpudhucode6862 Месяц назад
Rohan, don’t forget Arunachal Pradesh claim by china
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Месяц назад
A large number of Chinese people smuggle into the United States. Have you ever seen Americans smuggling into China? The Chinese are engaging in fraud in Myanmar, the Philippines, and Cambodia. Have you ever seen Westerners engaging in fraud in these countries? China is reclaiming reefs and building islands off the coast of the Philippines. Have you ever seen Westerners reclaiming reefs and building islands in the South China Sea?
@tvc3mye
@tvc3mye Месяц назад
It was the fault of the British colonial government. Neither India nor China should be blamed.
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Месяц назад
The first foreign bus workers strike in Singapore was initiated by the Chinese中國人. Most of the fraudsters in Myanmar, the Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Singapore, and Malaysia are from China. Then you told me that China is a friendly country. Do you have cognitive impairment?
@Ayangku2022
@Ayangku2022 2 месяца назад
Standing ovation for Sir Kishore Mahbubani! SE Asians are certainly not stupid 😅
@erenyeagerist7681
@erenyeagerist7681 2 месяца назад
Except for Philippines
@ggc7318
@ggc7318 2 месяца назад
These SEA countries are only skillful at sitting on the fence and see which country benefits them. Since China is closer and getting stronger, they would lean towards China.
@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984
@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 Месяц назад
​@@erenyeagerist7681That's because BongBong promised a lot and then did a 180°, because he couldn't give up on his father's bank account. 😂
@junjiechen7461
@junjiechen7461 Месяц назад
​@@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984Marcos Sr died & Marcos Junior (current Philippines president) takes over. When US court asked Marcos Jr to appear in court, somebody helped Marcos to return to Philippines, without appearing in court. Hence, US court issued a contempt order of US$353 million. how much is Marcos Senior's estate In Oct 2012, a US Court of Appeals upheld the judgment against Marcos for violating an injunction that barred Marcos Jr to dissipate the assets of the estate. USA has frozen US$2 billion. Marcos Jr is selfish. For his own interest, he damages Philippines’ economy by losing trade with China. He put his country at risk in a China-USA war where Philippines will become a ruin like Ukraine. They let the US bribe money fill their bellies and exchange of hell.
@whoami8247
@whoami8247 Месяц назад
Very stupid😂 they day USA takes it army back, the next day china would conquer them😂
@shendiyoung4044
@shendiyoung4044 Месяц назад
Kishore is lecturing Orville ! What a wisdom man !
@MAR-lt7xo
@MAR-lt7xo Месяц назад
Happy and glad to hear the deep wisdom based views of Kishore as mind opening and concerned diplomat from Singapore.
@alvinchua9436
@alvinchua9436 Месяц назад
Whenever Mr Kishore Mahbubani laughed, I find it so funny. Respect to him that he tried his best to answer to "silly" questions again and again so patiently. A true gentlemen.
@nananahaha115
@nananahaha115 Месяц назад
Orville: balabala... Kishore: funny
@nongfusq
@nongfusq Месяц назад
I feel sorry for Orville. If the policymakers in the US are all at this level, then good luck to the US 😅...
@52cb
@52cb Месяц назад
I can assure you, the U.S. policymakers are worse. And USA, as a historical project, is dying.
@asj685
@asj685 Месяц назад
No 'ifs'...US politicians are no better, but worse than this so - called china expert. Did you see how the singaporean Tiktok ceo was grilled by american politicians?
@VicCave
@VicCave Месяц назад
They are…and worse
@thegracienetwork7847
@thegracienetwork7847 Месяц назад
USA has done pretty well so far. Still far ahead of China and will stay there. Xi messed up China economy
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Месяц назад
China's plans of fooling the world have ended. As Orville eluded. Policy to China is therefore changed.
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