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Oscilloscope: DC & AC, Signal Tracing in Amp Circuit, RMS Output Measurement 

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In this video, we conclude the explanation of oscilloscope controls and theory with a discussion of DC traces and measurement, "Chop" setting for 2-channel display, AC "floating" on DC, and the X10 setting for Sec/Div. We will then use what we've learned to trace a signal through an amp circuit and calculate the voltage gain in each stage. Finally, we use the oscilloscope to measure the RMS output of an amplifier circuit. NOTE: Should you personally choose to perform any of these tests or measurements, please stringently observe all rules of electrical safety and proceed at your own risk.
0:00 DC, AC "Float", and the "Chop" Setting for 2-Channel Display
8:25 How the X10 Function Works with the Sec/Div Adjustment
10:03 Where's Jack ?
10:30 Signal Tracing & Voltage Gain Measurement in Amp Stages
21:14 Measuring RMS Output of Amp Circuit
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Комментарии : 457   
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
As a former math teacher, I'm embarrassed to admit that there is an error in my formula for the calculation of RMS power. The peak voltage should be corrected to RMS (i.e. multiplied by .707) prior to being squared and divided by the speaker impedance......not after :(
@NotMarkKnopfler
@NotMarkKnopfler 6 лет назад
So, about 2.25 watts RMS?
@harbselectronicslab3551
@harbselectronicslab3551 6 лет назад
Thats fine.....it makes some of us feel smarter lol.....another worthwhile video uncle Doug......I get all the young trainee's to watch these, its very helpful :)
@MrSubie2007
@MrSubie2007 6 лет назад
Should have mentioned earlier, i really have enjoy all your videos and have learned quite a bit from them. Tube/valve circuit classes/lectures were not available during my university days (1973 - 1982). Keep them coming!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Yes, Not Mark, the real value is a bit lower than my flattering portrayal of its awesome output power :)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks, Harb. I always strive to make others feel smarter :):)
@jeremiahchamberlin4499
@jeremiahchamberlin4499 Месяц назад
This is the best oscilloscope tutorial I’ve ever seen. Took me way beyond what I learned (and taught) in Community College.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Месяц назад
That's great to hear, Jeremiah. I'm glad it was helpful.
@kenwinston2245
@kenwinston2245 6 лет назад
Knowledgeable men such as yourself who are willing to take the time to share are rare, and absolutely beyond value to the rest of us . Thanks again sir. You will always have a willing and eager audience.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Ken. Thanks for your very nice comments.
@kennethgroves6552
@kennethgroves6552 Год назад
Uncle Doug is the teacher that we wish we had in school. Thank you Uncle Doug!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Год назад
Thanks so much, Ken :)
@michaelmasin1996
@michaelmasin1996 6 лет назад
I alredy know how to operate an oscilloscope, but I still watch these videos just because I love how you teach
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks, Michael. I am flattered that you would do so :)
@Cavemannspace
@Cavemannspace 6 лет назад
DITTO! Besides we have to keep an eye open for Jack.
@gt6hudson
@gt6hudson 2 года назад
Like wise, uncle Doug really explains amps so well
@d.e.c1609
@d.e.c1609 18 дней назад
Same!
@knifeswitch5973
@knifeswitch5973 4 года назад
Well Doug , I’m a 53 year old electrician who never got into electronics until watching your videos. When this covid thing broke out, I decided it was time for a new hobby. So I bought a bench scope, bench meter, a new solder station, a couple of power supplies, variac and a sig-gen. I’ve been watching your vids pretty religiously and you have taught me so much already. I really have to thank you sir. I doubt you’d ever need it but if you ever have mains or premise wiring issues, I’m all ears!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
It's quite gratifying to hear that you have put the videos to good, practical use, Mike. Congratulations on your new hobby and best of luck with all your projects.
@EmbelekoBand
@EmbelekoBand 6 лет назад
Always appreciative of your shared knowledge. Didn't see Jack's new friend on this video. Miss Rusty very much. RIP
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks so much, Gil. Ollie was being demure during this production :) Yes, I miss Rusty also :(
@KP11520
@KP11520 Год назад
Now I know why so many others rave about YOUR videos. Thank you!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Год назад
Thanks, KP :)
@OIE82
@OIE82 2 года назад
I love Uncle Doug and his videos. Every time I was thinking "but what about..." he answers in the video. God bless Uncle Doug.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 года назад
Thanks, Luther.....glad to hear it :)
@thomasburnett4712
@thomasburnett4712 6 лет назад
Thank you, thank you thank you for all the practical instructional videos!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome x 3, Thomas :)
@sting1111
@sting1111 3 года назад
Fascinating stuff as always. Greetings to Uncle and Jack. You get me back into this every winter.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 года назад
Greetings, Sting. Welcome back :)
@HipocratesAG
@HipocratesAG 6 лет назад
Thank you very much uncle Doug. This educational series are awesome.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Sergio.
@papaw2937
@papaw2937 6 лет назад
Thanks for another terrific video, Uncle Doug
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Bryant.
@johnkidd1694
@johnkidd1694 Год назад
Fantastic demo. With the adding I understand now how amplification is possible.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Год назад
Thanks, John :)
@achdee55
@achdee55 6 лет назад
Thanks Uncle Doug, you are a great teacher!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Harold. Thanks !!!
@CraftAero
@CraftAero 6 лет назад
Re: AC and DC co-existing within the same conductor. I tied my brain into knots trying to follow and interpret tube amp schematics before I caught onto this principle. Finding that simple key removed the "magic" and suddenly there was light. :)) Years later, I think I still have marks from all the head scratching.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
It does seem paradoxical........but truth is often "stranger than fiction" :)
@daveb9370
@daveb9370 6 лет назад
CraftAero Same here. I was reading the tube amp books I have, but nobody came out and said it; it was assumed you knew it. Then one day a few years back I was watching Uncle Doug being coached by Rusty (RIP Rusty, we miss you) on this, and BAM! , there it was! The mystery was solved. Thank you Uncle Doug for your great videos. Love the pet cameos too!
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 3 года назад
...no brains, no headaches(?)
@ka9dad
@ka9dad 5 лет назад
I have a nice older tektronix 453 but no practical experience. Thanks for a very clear explanation amd demonstration of the basics I needed to see.
@stevenjozefik659
@stevenjozefik659 6 лет назад
Thanks Doug , This is definitely THE best scope tutorial i have ever seen .
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Wow, thanks so much, Steve :)
@dougtaylor7724
@dougtaylor7724 3 года назад
Amazing amount of information available in one video.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful, Doug :)
@AnalogOpher
@AnalogOpher 6 лет назад
Amazing tutorial. Amazing teacher.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You are too kind......Thanks, AO.
@rciancia
@rciancia 6 лет назад
Doug, this video is very much appreciated. It clearly explains what I thought I knew already. Thank you so much..
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Ron :)
@abcdefgh-sh6wr
@abcdefgh-sh6wr 5 лет назад
Simply wonderful explanation, thanks.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
Thanks, Nasir :)
@larrydering1598
@larrydering1598 4 года назад
Fantastic instructions with clear and precise information. I really enjoyed this. Thank you for your lessons.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
You're welcome, Larry. Glad it was helpful.
@aeyb701
@aeyb701 7 месяцев назад
When I came across your channel a few years ago I thought this guy must have been a teacher. Your pedagogical skill comes through. With you I simply get it. Glad you’re out there.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 месяцев назад
Thanks so much, AE :) I was a classroom math and science teacher for many years.
@MrBrymstond
@MrBrymstond 6 лет назад
Uncle Doug+ Very professional. I love the fact you go into detail for the beginners. Most would overlook most of what you do, thank you! This is a real seminar, not the average RU-vid video.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Mr. B. I appreciate your nice comments.
@alanstahl594
@alanstahl594 5 лет назад
Uncle Doug is a friggin genius !!! I just can't get enough ! These videos are off the hook ! SUPER WOW and many thanx!!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
Wow......Thanks so much, Alan :)
@carvingbone
@carvingbone 6 лет назад
Awesome stuff as always! Yes please more videos about uses and trouble shooting on amps like this! I just scored a similar analog oscilloscope to my tool kit, yay!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks, CB. We will :)
@Steve_Just_Steve
@Steve_Just_Steve 5 лет назад
Excellent! Learned a TON! Thank you
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
That's good to hear, Steve :)
@midmodaudio6576
@midmodaudio6576 2 года назад
Thank you for that very detailed explanation and demonstration.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 года назад
You're welcome, MMA. Glad you liked it :)
@GL64
@GL64 6 лет назад
Yes!!!! That was great. Thank you for doing it! More scope vids please!!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, GL. They're on the way :)
@SDsailor7
@SDsailor7 5 лет назад
I second that!
@jeremywatson3882
@jeremywatson3882 Год назад
Brilliant! So informative
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Год назад
Thanks, Jeremy :)
@elmakednos
@elmakednos 6 лет назад
I like old style cro. I have also the same tech.I also love the frequency generator.You made a perfect combination of the limiter and the isolation transformer.I have enjoyed it and learned something usefull.
@skycarl
@skycarl 6 лет назад
Thanks Doug,,, once again excellent video on this subject.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Carl :)
@tonyrink9999
@tonyrink9999 4 года назад
Great video. Learned a lot. Thanks for sharing.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@cepwin
@cepwin 5 лет назад
Thank you Doug! Thanks to your videos I was able to get an old Leader 3100a I bought off ebay up and running. Love your cat...beautiful kitty!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
That's great news, Cep. You're quite welcome :) Jack says, "Thanks".
@TheOpenAirGarage
@TheOpenAirGarage 6 лет назад
Another great video. Thanks for sharing this with us.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, T.
@isoguy.
@isoguy. 6 лет назад
Awsome video, again clearly explained, thankyou for sharing
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, IG. Thanks !!!
@pb7379-j2k
@pb7379-j2k 4 года назад
Fabulously instructive video. RU-vid exposes these to me in mysterious order, but I'm glad I finally got to this one! Thank you so much
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
It's our pleasure, Paul :)
@brianfletcher9774
@brianfletcher9774 3 года назад
I LOVE your kitties ! Puts a smile on my face when you feature them in your videos. I have a cat myself, his name is Thunder.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 года назад
Thanks so much, Brian, from all of us :)
@Guitar5986
@Guitar5986 8 месяцев назад
These have been incredibly helpful thank you!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 месяцев назад
Glad to hear it, G :)
@DaveHilts
@DaveHilts 6 лет назад
another great one! thanks UD!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Dave :)
@diegovilanova1
@diegovilanova1 5 лет назад
Great video, thanks for sharing!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
You're welcome, Diego.
@c_b5060
@c_b5060 2 года назад
I learned something new today. Thanks!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 года назад
Glad to hear it, CB :)
@Valerifon1
@Valerifon1 6 лет назад
I thoroughly enjoyed this video! It was just what I needed! I have a couple of scopes but my use of them is very basic. Many thanks to Uncle Doug and to the generous subscriber who donated the amplifier utilized in the making of this video. Using an oscilloscope and tracing a signal for grounding errors and failed components are what I need to see the most. I'm glad to have found this channel and this video - thank you very much Uncle Doug! I've subbed your channel and will become a Patron very soon! All the best - Luther
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Luther. Best of luck with your scope education.
@repairitdontreplaceit
@repairitdontreplaceit 6 лет назад
as always great info for old timers and new tube guys , thank you sir
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, R & R :)
@edwardtaylor1000
@edwardtaylor1000 6 лет назад
Great video again looking forward to the amp restore and some more of your guitar playing
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks, Ed. I'm going to let Jack and Ollie perform the sound check duties for the Trusound video :)
@lacorrida
@lacorrida 5 лет назад
Best to teacher ever ,master Doug...
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
You are too kind, Mathieu. Thanks !!!
@max79444
@max79444 3 года назад
Doug, you have an absolute fantastic bed side manner as we say in the UK. !
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 года назад
Thanks, Bryan......I guess ;)
@CesarVitell
@CesarVitell 10 месяцев назад
I never post a comment all this years, I follow you since the beginning and see all yours videos. Your a true Maestro. i just want to say one thing and i just want to Thank you for all I have learned from you Oncle Doug. Thank You.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for your kind words, Cesar.
@sidarris
@sidarris 4 года назад
Outstanding videos. Can't compliment you enough :) You are a legend Doug. All the very best from Ayrshire, Scotland :)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
Wow.....thanks so much, Alf. Likewise on the good wishes :)
@utubehound69
@utubehound69 6 лет назад
I always used my tongue to test the 9V's. Thanks Uncle Doug for most the enjoyable educational episodes ever caught on video they are Gold. I do appreciate them & you I always learn something. Excellent teaching.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, W4. Thanks !!!
@joemcgraw5529
@joemcgraw5529 4 года назад
your detail in explaining and using it with therory calculations is very informative ,I learned alot about the ossiloscope and how to adjust it for signal tracing ,thank you so much Doug your a Great teacher!!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
Thanks so much, Joe.
@icemanplaysguitar
@icemanplaysguitar 6 лет назад
Thanks Uncle Doug! This series has really helped me to utilise my Tektronix TAS 465 in a safer and more useful way. I was unaware of the potential hazards without the use of an isolation transformer, which will be my next purchase. In my opinion, your videos are the most clear & succinct explanations on these interesting topics available on the net. Looking forward to future episodes! Patreoned!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Ice. Thanks for your nice comments.
@danielcgomez
@danielcgomez 5 лет назад
VERY informative video Uncle Doug. since I got my cheap scope on Amazon, I've been signal tracing my amps, and having loads of fun!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
Thanks, Daniel. That's great news. Keep up the good work :)
@old64goat
@old64goat 6 лет назад
Great video and information!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks, OG :)
@JayanthookDass
@JayanthookDass 5 лет назад
Thank you very much for this video, so well explained. I'll definitely wait for your forthcoming videos. Regards!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
You're welcome, Jay. I hope you know, we have already posted over 200 videos for you to watch while waiting for our next new one :)
@gregpeirce6121
@gregpeirce6121 10 месяцев назад
Hi, thanks for the video, very helpful, from UK.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 месяцев назад
You're welcome, Greg :)
@philipdonovan6510
@philipdonovan6510 2 года назад
Once again, thank you for the clear/informative video's. For Christmas i'm getting a Siglent 4 channel 100 Mhz scope and I just won bids at work (Zoll Medical - Leader sig gen, Fluke DMM and a 10A/20V power supply) so, I'll have a fairly well rounded home lab bench in a few weeks. Having successfully build and gig with 2 tube amps, it will be nice to finally "see" more deeply into what is going on in each gain/transformer stage of subsequent builds, mods, and some day designs. Thank you!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 года назад
Congratulations on a fine acquisition, Phil. We hope it serves you well for many years.
@cowasakiElectronics
@cowasakiElectronics 4 года назад
Doug. I wish you had been my electronics lecturer! There were so many things that I didn't understand that It took me years to realise. This is probably, no definitely, the best simple introduction to a scope. Again it took me years to work most of this out.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
Thanks so much, Darren. We're glad the video was helpful.
@brd400
@brd400 6 лет назад
Thanks uncle Doug I like the way you explained it it makes so much sense and it's very fascinating ... I have a basic understanding of electronics and I completely followed what you said and learned a lot thank you
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Brd. I'm glad the video was easy to follow :)
@MrUbiquitousTech
@MrUbiquitousTech 5 лет назад
Good information there, thanks for sharing!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
You're welcome, SL :) I love the screen name.
@toms4123
@toms4123 4 года назад
Thank you so much, great lesson
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
It was our pleasure, Tom.
@colinhepburn2818
@colinhepburn2818 6 лет назад
As allways another helpfully vid doug thank you
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
You're welcome, Colin.
@gahlanaventis
@gahlanaventis 5 лет назад
thanks man so much for your time and valuable info really much appreciated
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
You're welcome, Gahlen :)
@Earthstein
@Earthstein 7 месяцев назад
Superb Uncle Doug. Thank you. I still miss Rusty.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 месяцев назад
Thanks. So do we.
@PandemoniumMeltDown
@PandemoniumMeltDown 3 года назад
Well that was a lot of fun from a simple circuit in very capable hands :) Everybody makes mistakes, the important part is to notice and gracefully correct them; making you, sir, a gentleman and a scholar.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 года назад
Thanks so much, PM :)
@murfbass
@murfbass 5 лет назад
You're the best Uncle Doug
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
Thanks, MB :)
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 3 года назад
...and he really knows his stuff-too...(!)
@horsthartung4682
@horsthartung4682 3 года назад
Excellent video.....I bought a Sencore SC61 Oscilloscope and a Tenma 72-455A Signal generator like yours and followed everything you said on this video...I'm soon going to be one of your patrons cause I love your videos and the way you teach....I also like Mr Carlson's Lab videos but there soooo long and a lot of stuff he says goes over my head.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 года назад
Thanks, Horst. I'm really glad to hear that the videos were helpful. Best of luck with your projects.
@DennisMurphey
@DennisMurphey 3 года назад
OUTSTANDING, you range of topics is just awesome. I had a scope and signal generator and sold them because i had no idea how to use them properly. Had i seen this video i would certainly keep them to check these homemade Amps. I had not idea how much fun amps can be. Well I will keep looking for bargains. maybe i can get another set of gear. This was great no part 2, Thank You Doug . You may not appreciate that your videos even older ones are helping a whole of folks figure stuff out. I expect even after we are all gone these video will be watched and education even more people. What a great act to do for education. D
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 года назад
Thanks so much, Dennis. It's great to know that the videos are helpful.
@DennisMurphey
@DennisMurphey 3 года назад
Check your PayPal. Small token of appreciation. Go get an ice cream in your Hot Rod on me. D
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 года назад
@@DennisMurphey Wow.....thanks again, Dennis. Our best to you and yours.
@hunt555fish
@hunt555fish 29 дней назад
Great video.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 29 дней назад
Thanks, Hunt :)
@romusromulus
@romusromulus Год назад
Uncle Doug,how did I ended up here? I was trying to understand how AC is measured by 10x probes. Usually I'm here for amps, this is a bonus info video.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Год назад
I'm glad it was informative, Sahin.
@alfonsoincorvaia2595
@alfonsoincorvaia2595 3 года назад
Jack is so cool!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 года назад
He agrees, Alfonso, and says, "Thanks" ;)
@rjprivate
@rjprivate 3 года назад
Thank you for another great lesson uncle Doug. I will have a look if you made more of these scope videos. Never used one but I'm at the point I should. It would be great to see how to find problems in tube amps with it. Jack is an awesome cat, great to see him in your videos. I would sure hire him for amp sniff tests
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 года назад
You're welcome, RJ. Glad the videos are helpful.
@rheidtech
@rheidtech 6 лет назад
Love it uncle doug!. 🤙🐱
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks, RH :) It's good to hear from you :)
@sting1111
@sting1111 7 месяцев назад
Greetings uncle D! Signal tracing has always been my favorite topic of your videos. Its always good to revisit your award -winning videos. They also offer hi level entertainment and make this subject fun and rewarding when we apply your techniques and solve problems. I want to thank you again.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 месяцев назад
You're quite welcome, Mr. K. Thanks for the nice comments :)
@JoseVazquez-qu3yd
@JoseVazquez-qu3yd 4 месяца назад
Learning one step at a time
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 месяца назад
Always the best way :)
@jorgemellooliveira9611
@jorgemellooliveira9611 6 лет назад
informações importante obrigado um abraço Sul do Brasil
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks, Jorge. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@davecheney8501
@davecheney8501 5 лет назад
Love your videos and of course Jack🐱😁
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
Thanks, Dave.
@PrinceWesterburg
@PrinceWesterburg 4 года назад
Thanks every so much for this - I've heard people say you can blow yourself up with oscilloscpes on amps but the same people will tell all sorts of old wives tales about valve amps! Thanks for explaining the sea of controls, fairly simple really. Much obliged Doug!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
It's our pleasure, Prince. Don't let the lunatic fringe (we all know you're out there) interfere with your appreciation of vintage amps and oscilloscopes ;)
@Delatsch
@Delatsch 6 лет назад
I used to hate Thursdays, but it's rapidly becoming the best day of the week.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
I generally post videos randomly, the moment I complete them, D; but I guess that Thursdays have been coincidentally picked several times now.
@willykanos1044
@willykanos1044 6 лет назад
Thank you, Uncle Doug. I needed this to trace the signal in my Princeton Clone. Now I know how to do it. You are a good teacher. Jim
@willykanos1044
@willykanos1044 6 лет назад
Here's what I did: I set the signal generator to make a 1khz signal into a dummy load. Measuring the output of the SG on the oscilloscope I found it was putting out 0.5 volts +/-. The signal passes throught the 12AX7 preamp and the signal at the grid of the 6V6 read just 4V +/-. 4V x .707=2.93. 2.93 x 2.93 = 7.99. 7.99 divided by 8 ohms gives just one watt. That's with amp volume at about 40%. Breakup starts at 5.2 V +/- for 3.38 Watts. I measure the output of the audio transformer at the speaker - same settings - and got 0.6 V +/-. 0.6 V squared is 0.36 which, divided by 8 ohms gives a power at the speaker of 0.045 watts. That explains low audio output. Does it also indicate a bad output transformer?
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
The signal from the output transformer at max volume before distortion should be much higher than this, as you already know, Willy. Have you checked the DC resistance of the primary and secondary of the OPT, or attempted to measure its winding ratio ? How about a possible short in the voice coil of the speaker ?
@willykanos1044
@willykanos1044 6 лет назад
I will check DC resistance of both sides of OPT and check back.
@willykanos1044
@willykanos1044 6 лет назад
DC resistance - primary - common to 5K connection: 494 ohms. Secondary - common to 8 ohm connection 1.3 ohms.
@willykanos1044
@willykanos1044 6 лет назад
Resistance across speaker connections: 6.4 ohms.
@johntempleton6368
@johntempleton6368 6 лет назад
That was a good one. When you overlay the output and input from V1 you can see the amplification and signal inversion. Just like school. I also love to hear the sound of the tubes singing, but never really understood where the vibration to create sound comes from.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
I forgot to mention the phase inversion at each stage of amplification. There is a faint, very high-pitched "whistle" from the circuit, particularly with the volume turned way up.......I always thought I was the only one who heard it :):)
@Sonikbytes
@Sonikbytes 6 лет назад
love this video and how you put everything together to make it safe for beginners like me when dealing this type of circuits. my request is to show how tube tester works. Have a couple of Ampex 620 laying around that need rebult
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks, SB. The oscilloscope is demanding enough for now :) All tube testers are different, but I guess it might be worth explaining the basic principles upon which they function.
@stevenjozefik659
@stevenjozefik659 6 лет назад
Good Idea , Mine takes the plate voltage from mains potential .. Im in Australia , so I use a 110 volt stepdown tx to isolate , however , if i was in the states , i would be onto Doug's iso ps videos straight away .
@juliuscaesarrimando142
@juliuscaesarrimando142 4 года назад
Subscribed Sir...very informative. Thank you Sir.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
Thanks and welcome to our channel, Julius.
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 6 лет назад
“10 minutes of theory, and 16 minutes of hands on...” Don’t forget the minute spent looking for Jack! 😻
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Yes, and it was a minute well spent :)
@simonkormendy849
@simonkormendy849 2 года назад
I've got two dual-channel Oscilloscopes in my collection of test equipment, one is a solid-state 20Mhz DSE Q-1804 I bought back in the late 90's, the other is an old Telequipment D33R 15Mhz Tube Oscilloscope that needs a new CRT and some restoration work done on it, they really are useful pieces of test equipment to have, once you know how to use them properly, having the ability to see how a circuit is actually behaving is like the difference between working blind and working with 20/20 vision.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 года назад
That's a good analogy, Simon. Being able to see wave forms and "noise" eliminates the majority of guesswork involved in electronic repair.
@arthurrae7904
@arthurrae7904 4 года назад
I appreciate your methodical approach to introducing us to a CRO. I particularly appreciated you saying things like BNC Connector, in a manner which could be understood. I am working with model trains and considering purchasing an Oscilloscope. I am hoping that such a device could record a sequence of events, and allow me to play them back. For example, a Capacitor Discharge Unit (CDU) charges a large value Capacitor (I'm using 10,000uF, 63Volts), by directing a supply voltage of 16VAC through a Non-polar 220uF 50Volt Capacitor, thence splitting the flow to two diodes pointing in opposite polarity, which charge the big capacitor. I wish that I could include the schematic, but you can probably get the idea. After a couple of seconds, the big capacitor is changed to about 44VDC, and is ready to supply that jolt of power to a Solenoid, to change points. I would like to be able to record that couple of seconds, and play it back in slow motion. I am hoping that an Oscilloscope could do that for me. Thank you for an interesting presentation. I hope that you, or one of your subscribers might respond to this entry, Arthur
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
I don't own a digital oscilloscope, Arthur, but some models may be able to record and playback. You'll have to check on Ebay or the internet in general. Good luck. Thanks !!
@ImTheReal
@ImTheReal 6 лет назад
Awesome! No more scared about Oscilloscope. Great teacher, really easily to understand. I was wondering here... If you start to talk about space travel using these old amps, probably we'll learn some cool things. XD
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks, Nuno :)
@williamdaniels8128
@williamdaniels8128 6 месяцев назад
Enjoyed your teaching active passive termonology also love bld race engines trying to apply this wave form todiesel injector trim scan great teacher
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 месяцев назад
Thanks, William :)
@AdmiralQuality
@AdmiralQuality 6 лет назад
The clipping point is also dependent on the strength of the input signal. Electric guitars don't output anything near +/- 2V, so that's why it went into clipping at such a low volume as the signal generator is overdriving the input compared to what it was designed for. Another great video, Doug, thanks again!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
That's a good point, AQ. I thought my input signal was +/- 1V, but you may be right about it overdriving the circuit. You're welcome.
@zaraak323i
@zaraak323i 6 лет назад
I've always operated under the impression that typical guitar signals are 300mV pk-pk and line-level signals are 1V pk-pk. This is something that I think I picked up from Craig Anderton's book.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
I tested a pair of humbucker pickups several years ago (both activated) and got a 0.7V output. To me, 1V is a close approximation that allows for easy numerical comparison.
@johnwrench4speed
@johnwrench4speed 6 лет назад
Thanks for the video. They are very informative and enjoyable. I am very familiar with the use and application of multi-channel DSOs (e.g., Snap On: Vantage, Vantage Pro, Modis, and Verus; and PicoScope) in connection with automotive diagnostics (injectors, ignition coils, fuel pumps, cam/crank sensors, in cylinder pressure diagnosis, et al.). The Snap On offerings evolved to be very good. However, the industry standard, in my opinion, has become the PicoScope because of its many capabilities. It is my understanding PicoScope makes a full line of DSOs. I don't know if these would be suitable for tube amplifier diagnostics, i.e., overkill, but having experience with their automotive version, it seems they would be a very useful tool. Cheers.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks for the interesting input, JW. I have no familiarity with PicoScope but I'm sure there are sites and videos that do. Best of luck.
@andersf324
@andersf324 6 лет назад
As far as output transformers, when I have instructed fellow musicians in the past on the concept, and they are staring at me like I am an alien with three eyes and green hair, the analogy of an electronic gear box seems to make the light bulbs come on. The conversion from horse power to torque with a gear ratio to climb a steep hill (and the speaker transducer is a mighty steep hill for the poor power tube) does provide a tactile concept for them. Great video as always, Uncle Doug!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
An excellent comparison, Anders, and one to which all automobile enthusiasts can relate. Thanks !!!
@andersf324
@andersf324 6 лет назад
And, as always, we are bound to the irrefutable laws of thermodynamics for conservation of energy. As one parameter comes up, the other one goes down, but the amount of work is still the same. All other variances are in either friction or flux core heating thermal losses depending on the system... Don't get me started on the free energy cooks... Hehe
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Right you are, Anders :)
@rbmwiv
@rbmwiv 5 лет назад
Love my tektronix 2232. Owned it first and after learning on the old-school I have a 200 MHz DSO that I use most of the time. But I love how the buttons click. The DSO is not the same. Wish that the modern ones had detents for the knobs.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
Thanks for the input, AT.
@charlesberquist985
@charlesberquist985 Год назад
WOW Thanks I was just about to scope plate voltage This is so much better and safe r
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Год назад
If you ever apply a scope probe to a signal circuit, apply it AFTER the coupling cap, to eliminate the HVDC.
@HitchHiker4Freedom
@HitchHiker4Freedom 6 лет назад
Another great tutorial Uncle Doug. Jack is a black ninja cat so his skills shine better under the cover of darkness. 😁 Thanks for your time.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
Thanks, CC. Indeed, he is one stealthy guy.
@robertphelps41
@robertphelps41 6 лет назад
Lo'der UD ! I smell an Honorary Diploma in "Ampology" coming soon ! Your dulcet tones and ageless wit and humor continue to both impress and educate. I'm only hoping you'll give my Vox clone design a look when it's ready and help me source the difficult bits like Diodes from Mullard for full wave bridge rectification. But in the mean time I will share with my friends and enjoy and wait for the video delights yet to appear. Robert aka jj Thanks ever so......
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
I can tell that you're an honor graduate in the making, Robert. You're welcome. Thanks for watching :)
@peetena1481
@peetena1481 5 лет назад
I eagerly await each and every performance by the great Jack (hairy) Catdini, master of illusion, escape and international cat of mystery.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
As Jack's fame increases exponentially, Peete, it becomes apparent that soon I will be working for him.....rather than the other way around :)
@Slugg-O
@Slugg-O 6 лет назад
Yippie! I got a front row seat today
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 6 лет назад
Pass the popcorn...
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 лет назад
I saw you sneaking in the EXIT, Randy :)
@Slugg-O
@Slugg-O 6 лет назад
Busted.
@davecooper5951
@davecooper5951 4 года назад
Great videos Doug. I can now switch on my Tektronix T912 without trepidation ! Incidentally, I'm told my 'scope has a storage function - not sure how to use this yet. Another video perhaps ?
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 года назад
Thanks, Dave. I'm glad the videos were helpful. The majority of analog scopes, like mine, don't have a storage function, so it's not feasible for me to demonstrate it. Hopefully you can find technical assistance on the internet. Good luck.
@alexabadi7458
@alexabadi7458 5 лет назад
Great teaching video, I love scopes, I have 3 of them ! :o)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 лет назад
Thanks, Alex.
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 3 года назад
...well, if ya LOVE scopes so much- then why don't ya MARRY one?!!
@alexabadi7458
@alexabadi7458 3 года назад
@@daleburrell6273 Because my wife already screen at me...
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 3 года назад
@@alexabadi7458 ...too bad you're not a Mormon-(?)
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