Osee GoStream Deck: Review and Demonstration (HDMI switcher & stream encoder) 

I believe I did explain and show that in the video (preview of key / taking it to air). To clarify for you, the BKGD button stayed permanently lit, regardless of how I pressed it; that was my only puzzlement.

Great review . Everything you need to know was mentioned. Thank you

@@TubeShooterMag Sorry for the lack of clarity on my side, I'll give more details. At 11 minutes, you say "Background - BKGD - doesn't seem to do anything, I've not worked out what that one does at all. However these (showing the left key buttons) are to do with keying." Here, Background cannot be untied from the transition unless you at least tie a key or dsk to the transition, since you cannot transition if nothing is selected. And starting at 27 minutes, you say this functionnality is weird : "You can if - you want to - turn it off, weirdly by turning the button on, turns it off on the preview so that when you then cut it's not on screen anymore. It's a bit weird, it sort of turns into an on/off button the other way around when you've taken it to air." You did explain what it does, but I thought it would be a valuable feedback to say that it is not weird but intended functionnality, as this is how keying and tying works, as you can find it on the Atem Mini (in the software control), Atem television studios (as physical buttons : BKGD, KEY-1 to 4 and DSK 1-2 TIE), and other brands, like Barco switchers. This functionnality is one I find the most useful on switchers as physical buttons, hence why I've been most interested in your review of these buttons, but since it seemed to me that it was a bit confusing, I wanted to add the information I could give in case it could help you or a potential viewer with little experience with video switchers.

Cheers for the clarification; I see what you mean. It is still weird that "on" (lit) becomes "off" and vice versa; it's inconsistent.

Not really, as this is not the role of these buttons. The above "On air" buttons do represent the live state of the layers when they are lit in red, and the off state when they are not (and pressing those would indeed toggle this state instantly). But where the preview row has buttons lit in green, Upstream Keys and Downstream Keys have no preview state, other than being show on the preview feed; they just have a transition binding button, which is just that, a binding button, representing the state of the binding to the transition. When lit, the corresponding layer is bound to the transition, and will change state, whereas when not lit, it would just not transition and the layer would stay in the same state (reperesented by the "on air" button being or not being lit in red), so these are two separate roles and this cannot be compared in the way you do. Some manufacturers choose the yellow light to represent transition states, where it is white on this model, but it works in the same way. Bigger and profesionnal video switchers all work in this way, which is the standard, and while is might seem confusing since there is no green light for the preview like the background layers, it does make sense to show which layers are enabled with your transitions, may it be the background, any Upstream key, or any Downstream key upwards.

Holy crap! More than what a GVG 100 could have ever done! A Sony SEG from back then - 🤣🤣🤣.

It also wouldn’t overheat and lockup!

And since they won't, we are here and at a much much better price point

I'm so glad it helped! There are a few changes with the version 2 firmware but the bulk of it is as shown here

Glad it was helpful!

Great to hear!

Cheers!

🤣🤣

I was listening just to the audio at work and I thought "he really does sound a bit like the canal boat guy." Great review. I always wonder what lifespan devices will have.

Thank you kindly!

You are welcome!

Haha thanks. I do like this GoStream deck although I wish the macro buttons didn't record keystrokes but were just a snapshot of the settings at that time (because ensuring you've pressed all the keys that might ever be needed to recreate a particular scene is quite the nuisance)

You can never have enough switchers

It really is!

Thank you kindly!

Glad to hear that!

Thank you! Cheers!

You got what you pay for!

I wasn't able to find any video explaining how to connect the Switcher to OBS. here is what I'm doing... Gostream to pc via USB 1 - then Open OBS and create a Video Capture Dev - I'm seeing the GoStream option but when I click okay. the display is just Black. What am I missing? Help please

Hi, Concerning the stream bit rate that is just about 1mb as mentioned, has there been any update, or will there be in the future?

No, no software interface

Ah - very important: see my video after this one in which I explained it was a misunderstanding between me and Osee (they were quoting megabyes per sec and I thought they were giving megabits).

Who cares about Blackmagic if it does not cares about us?

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I knew I heard the voice somewhere before, it wasn't until I seen his face that I said CRUSING THE CUT !!! Enjoyed the video...

😀😀

You're welcome

Thanks!

Hi, thanks. I don't think I ever said the buttons weren't correct, and I showed what they do. But the BKGD button doesn't do *anything*. It is permanently lit, no matter how you press it.

@@TubeShooterMag Try to press it, when one of the buttons left to it are LIT. It should turn off. And THEN you can use the Transition to bring a Keyer on-Air or of-Air without affecting the Video behind it (the ‚background‘)

We made NDI into the Beta version for reviewers to test it. However it is not yet ready for release until the thorough test can be done. Pls stay tuned with us. The NDI functionality will be released through a FW update, and in addition you'll have to purchase a license to activate the NDI, which is sold separately.

The fanless design is because that the internal heat is generated to the bottom of the equipment. And please don't worry. Our equipment can guarantee normal operation at an ambient temperature of 40 degrees Celsius. The bitrate limitation, do you mean the recording?

Unfortunately I don't know at present. I'm hoping to get the NDI firmware when it's ready so I can do an update video, and hopefully I should get the price then too. I suspect it'll be set by whichever organisation owns the NDI tech spec rather than by Osee

Yes, it could handle that for your questions 1 and the SD card could record PGM absolutely for your question 2.

Just one recording

I like that phrase!! Splendid 🤣🤣

One single recording which can be the program or any one of the inputs but not multiple inputs at a time

Yes, I showed that in the video

Thank you so much!

Also could it have a stinger option

The only one I can answer directly is that whilst you can choose which source is recorded, it’s a single source at a time, not multiple ISO sources, if that makes sense.

We made NDI into the Beta version for reviewers to test it. However it is not yet ready for release until the thorough test can be done. Pls stay tuned with us. The NDI functionality will be released through a FW update, and in addition you'll have to purchase a license to activate the NDI, which is sold separately. The mixer does not support network remote control. It only records the program mix. The custom setting of RTMP will be achieved by firmware update later.

Luckily you can swap them

@@TubeShooterMag Very good, I had thought so but I couldn't be sure if it could be done. Thank you

I'm not sure, sorry, as all my cameras are the same frame rate and resolution

@@TubeShooterMag thanks

The ATEM needs faders for audio levels. The up and down buttons are so janky.

Ahahaha. I suspect they'll do NOTHING. Though they need to they want to protect their higher priced products.

It does not record each camera input separately, there is just a single recording.

I think I would choose this as it’s more flexible (customisable in what inputs go to where etc) and it has built-in streaming so I wouldn’t need to take the laptop running OBS, though doing so does give you advantages such as additional graphics etc

Thanks for your good suggestions. We will take it into our consideration.

I haven’t used it for sufficient length of time to encounter any problems - the demo in this video was the longest I’ve run it and it was OK but it certainly does get quite warm underneath.

I ordered from amazon an adjustable angle two fan cooler for a small laptop/tablet that should work

You can, I believe, record and play back simultaneously. Not sure about the other questions, sorry, but Osee are chipping in here with answers every so often.

Not just that but the hdmi on the atem has a very particular way of handling hdmi negotiation so it’s nearly instant and stable connection

I haven't tested that one so can't sensibly comment, sorry

Just the one file

Agreed, I only wish I’d had a suitable NDI feed to test it (but I confess I know very little about NDI)

​@@TubeShooterMag It is a whole new rabbit hole to dive into perhaps a bit unnecessary for regular use. NewTek has tools for PC and Mac that are free that can turn your webcam into a NDI source. Also, I have an iPhone App that turns an iPhone into an NDI source that is visible on the local network. oops, realised I was on my TTT account. /Martin

Oh, I like the sound of that app - would you tell me the name? It would be interesting to have a play with it.

We made NDI into the Beta version for reviewers to test it. However it is not yet ready for release until the thorough test can be done. Pls stay tuned with us. The NDI functionality will be released through a FW update, and in addition you'll have to purchase a license to activate the NDI, which is sold separately.

It can accept different formats on different inputs include 720p50/60, 1080i50/60, 1080p24/25/30/50/60

No, only the PGM and PVW windows can be swapped but none of the sizes and other locations

Yes or feed the USB output to a laptop and use OBS etc

Current latency on the OUT 1 is about one frame because there's frame synchronizer/deinterlacer/scaler on all of the input.

MJPEG, 1080P30. If you want a higher quality format, you can use HDMI output and an external capture card to achieve it. HDMI output to 1080P60, UVC output to 1080P30.

Interesting idea. I'd try it but I think my HDMI-USB is an old USB-A type

You can always use USB to USB-C adapter. The only requirement is HDMI to USB converter should be UVC compliant ( USB video device class). Cheers. @@TubeShooterMag

No extra computer functions

The macros is a html format file that can be imported from or exported to the SD card. It can be edit by using a html edit tool

Response from the manufacturer - The NDI function is not available at this moment. It is still under development and will be available by firmware update in the future.

I think the last two things would turn it into a physically bigger and rather more expensive product, defeating the object if its existence.

No, it records a single feed

Unfortunately I have no idea what IMAG is 😳😳

@@TubeShooterMag Image magnification e.g for projectors or big screens in churches etc. If there's too much latency the image delay will be obvious to viewers in churches

The latency from any input to PGM output is about 1 frame

There's no companion app for the Osee that I know of

@@TubeShooterMag give them a time :)

This is better than ATEM in this regard because you can take NDI out of the proprrsenter and introduce it to this device

So sorry for that it didn't support ProPresenter.

Yes you can record to the SD card

@@TubeShooterMag is there a 4K version available ?

That would be the Atem mini pro iso

Your suggestion had been well noted. We will try to make it happen.

You missed out my question mark 😉

I’m no expert at OBS but there are various settings for each capture device, so maybe tinker with those (eg resolution and frame rate). Is it actually a PC or a Mac (the prior MacOS version has a bug with seeing streaming inputs)

@@TubeShooterMag thank you for your quick response. Really appreciate it. Let me ask you one more question which I wasn't able to find it in your video. What about the headset. Once its connected, I cannot hear whats being recording. Is there any key that needs to be turn on? 🤔

That's odd. As I recall (and I'm writing this without the device in front of me so apologies for any error), there is a headphone volume either in the audio mixer or in the main settings. I do recall seeing it because it was able to drive my headphones very loudly!

That's odd. As I recall (and I'm writing this without the device in front of me so apologies for any error), there is a headphone volume either in the audio mixer or in the main settings. I do recall seeing it because it was able to drive my headphones very loudly!

I don't understand the question, sorry. What do you mean by "control the program"? Or "brightness for streaming"?

Ok,can you adjust the brightness from the switcher Example if you see the program A little dark from the switcher you can adjust

In Blackmagic you can control Brightness from the switch

Ah, no you cannot make video level adjustments (brightness,contrast etc), they are however they come from the camera or other video source. You would need to adjust the exposure on the camera.

Have you turned that audio channel on, using the buttons or the Settings / Menu control knob? It will be off by default.

Not as far as I'm aware