My intuition must be off the charts because I looked you guys up earlier wondering whether you were about to drop something new, went back and watched Dark Knight Rises and HP 3 and then boom, wow! What an absolute treat. 🙏
You guys are actually the first reaction channel to figure out the entire moody being crouch’s son plot It seems obvious but even I didn’t see it in the first watch You guys are great reactors and pay attention to every detail
Yea he loved him so much if he had gone with him and died, Cedric maybe would've received the same protection from the killing curse that Harry got honestly, makes it even more sad to think about.
@@tomi_9212 I don't think they remember. The girl said she's 21...so she probably was around 4-5 yo when Kristen-Rob was a thing. We're getting old lol.
The aspect of Voldemort ruling through fear and brutality is a really interesting facet in the novels, because at times it works against him in ways it's hard for him to foresee, usually because him being the type of person to rule through fear affects his value judgements and not always in good ways, the first and best example being the fact that he couldn't foresee the type of old magic protection that would be created by killing Harry's parents in front of him... Love is a blind spot for him, it's not something he utilizes in his rule, let alone personally knows, so anything that comes from it befuddles him. He's a being of extremes, and he thinks that makes him free, but it restricts his world view from the subtleties of human nature, and at times magic.
The easy way to know how old a student is in Hogwarts is that it almost matches the school year they are in. You first start attending Hogwarts at year 1 when you are 11 years old. Then year 2 when you are 12. Year 3 at 13 years old. Year 4 at 14 years old. Year 5 is 15 years old. Year 6 is 16. And then your final year at Hogwarts is year 7 when you are 17 years old. In the wizarding world you are considered an adult at 17 years old as apposed to the normal muggle world where an 18 year old is considered a legal adult. 🏰🪄🧙🏻♀️
Many many MANY reactors still don't pick up on the polyjuice + tongue flick clues for Mad-Eye/Barty Jr. That's why it's still posed as he's the real Mad-Eye after the memory is shown. The characters haven't put it together yet.
To add to this. Only we as audience saw Moody with the tongue flicks other than Crouch Sr. Nobody else saw that, which is why none (other than us audience) could put two and two together immediately.
@@jordy9096 Well you have to be extremely GOOD at lying (and keeping all ends together of what you "know" and what you are not supposed to know yet) to talk through 2+ hours of analysis and not give yourself away. I watched all 4 their reactions to HP until now, and did not pick up any visible difference between their analyses to this series and other movies that presumably were new to them. So if anyone is that good at presenting a created reality and reactions as if they were first-time, I'd say they deserve props for that alone. This would be Oscar-level acting, plus entertaining talks nevertheless.
Fred & George are just shy of 17 in this one. They're 3 years ahead of Ron. Ginny is one year behind him. Percy has already graduated and works at the Ministry as Crouch, Sr's junior assistant. Hermione turned 15 right after school started. Ron turns 15 before school ends but Harry won't turn 15 until a month after school lets out for summer. In the book both other schools were co-ed just like Hogwarts. Except for Fleur's little sister the other 2 schools only brought students who were old enough to compete so they are all 17/18 years old. The movie made it much too easy to figure out that Moody was actually Barty Crouch, Jr. We never heard about or saw him until Harry did in the book, which is when Sirius and Dumbledore told him about him being sent to Azkaban and in Dumbledore's memory of the trials and at the end. In the book everyone actually thought Barty Crouch, Jr had died in Azkaban. As for the 3 tasks: 1. Harry's dragon did not get loose in the book. 2. There were a few creatures in the maze they had to get past. The only task that was pretty accurate was the one in the lake (except Dobby gave Harry the Gillyweed not Neville). Harry also did a lot of spell training with Hermione before the first task and then with both Ron and Hermione before the maze task. What you see in the movie is about half of the book...if that much. Sirius, Dobby, Hagrid and Rita Skeeter, in particular, had mich bigger story lines in the book. You would dislike Skeeter even more in the book..think tabloid reporter. To be fair Ron really did just realize that Hermione is a girl and not just one of his best friends. He doesn't even realize that he's jealous. Ron is more than a bit clueless even for a 14 year old. 😂 It's not just being overshadowed all his life. All 5 of his old brothers are known for being either popular, smart, talented or successful (or a combo of several of those). Ginny is the baby and the only gurl so even she overshadows him. Then he becomes best friends with a boy who's the most famous kid in their world and a girl who is the smartest, most talented student in their year. Harry becoming a champion was just the last straw for Ron and his inferiority complex kicked into full blown jealousy and anger for awhile. Most Death Eaters are "purebloods" who think muggles, muggleborns and even half-bloods are or should be beneath them. Voldemort offered them a world where they would rule over all of the people they consider lesser than.
Great summary! I’d go further and say that the movie is just a small portion of the book and more of a visual aid. I just rechecked, and the movie is 2.5 hours long, but the audiobook is 20+ hours, so impossible to include everything. 1 thing among many that I felt needed to be included, was Winky and JRs story. Crouch Sr discovering Winky with the wand, Crouch Jrs full confession about escaping, Sr helping him escape Azkaban, and how Harry saw Sr on the Marauders map when he was supposed to be ill/missing.
@@GeauxIrish15 Actually, Harry didn't see Sr on the map. He saw Barty Crouch, and assumed it was the Tri-wizard judge. He didn't know at the time that Crouch had a son with the same name.
50:00 it's not the same bathroom, this is the prefects bathroom (prefects are 5th+ year students chosen to have higher responsibility helping guide the younger students and enforce rules. Cedric is a prefect and recommended Harry to go there). The chamber of secrets was in one of the general girls bathrooms, 2nd floor
One of the favorite inside jokes among us Harry Potter book readers; 'Did you put your name into the Goblet of Fire, Harry?' Dumbledore asked calmly.' 📚🧙♂️🪄🧘♂️😉
In the book Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Dumbledore explained to Harry that Priori Incantatem is what happened when their two wands with matching wand core connected. If you recall from the very first movie, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone or Philosopher's Stone when Harry got his wand Mr. Olivander said that the phoenix feather in Harry's wand had a matching feather in another wand that came from the same exact phoenix. The person that has the other feather in his wand is Voldemort. Harry found out in the book version of Goblet of Fire that the phoenix was Dumbledore's bird, Fawks. Because Harry and Voldemort has matching wand cores it means the wands are equal in power and relation. The wands really are brothers. As Harry's wand began to slowly beat Voldemort's wand it caused the Piori Incantatem spell to happen. That means the last few spells that a wand made reveals itself. So in this case not only did the last few murders that Voldemort's wand made expose itself to everyone in the graveyard, in the book version it also showed Wormtail's new silvery hand first as well. 🪄💥⚡️🪄
great putting that out! Also the reason why Voldemort was losing to Harry! Although they already pointed it out while commenting! Harry was VERY BRAVE right there which caused his wand to beat Voldemort's and force the priori incantatem effect out of it; it's because he was and still very scared of death and of why Harry keeps surviving against him, so in front of the INSANELY brave Harry at that moment he just couldn't stand a chance!
Ron doesn't want glory and/or to be better than his brothers. He's actually afraid of NOT being as good as his brothers. They've all done well at school and gone on to do well at work. Ron will be happy just to be as good as the rest of the family, even if they're not particularly outstanding.
YES; it's more obvious in the books, bu the twins especially tease and insult Ron. He suffers from low self-esteem. His brothers are star quidditch players, Head Boys (like Class President), and Prefects (like student officers). He got hand-me-downs as the youngest and is no scholar.
@@glowormrdr6183 and he has the brains and the talents, too! he just suffers from low self-esteem (which is huge because a high self-esteem is the key to unlock any talent you ever have).
The movie gives a million clues about Crouch Jr. being disguised as Moody, that's one of the reasons I dislike it. There's no way in hell you could tell in the book upon first reading.
@@bidishahyeh I disliked Mike Newell as a director. He even hinted at the fact he was annoyed that Alfonso had already done a dark twist on a Harry Potter movie so he wanted to outdo him. He even wanted to have the dragon burn down the forbidden forest before people intervened and were like “you can’t do that” 😂
Since you already knew about it from the books you would obviously notice it Even people watching the movie again notice it🙂not the first time you see it though
@@chiragwasan7790 That'd be a good argument, except it can be proven through the hundreds of first time watcher reactions on youtube, including the video you're commenting under, that got the very obvious hints it was Crouch Jr.
1:01:52 - "She's a flower" For some reason that made me die laughing lol. You two did a REALLY good job at piecing together a lot of stuff that many others miss, and stuff that you wouldn't really know without reading the books. First, well done spotting the tongue thing. Lots of people miss that for some reason (including myself when I watched the very first time when the movie came out). You also picked up on the fact that Krum was bewitched by Barty Crouch Jr., with the specific goal of helping Harry get to the portkey. Krum was bewitched to attack the other contestants except for Harry, which is why he simply left Harry alone after he came face to face with him. You also paid attention and noticed that Barty Crouch was one of the ones who tortured Neville's parents (some people gloss over that, forgetting Neville's last name is Longbottom or just not registering it), which adds an extra layer to the scene where Barty tortures the spider in front of Neville, which is why he got so upset. This isn't a spoiler per se, because it doesn't address this in the future movies, but his parents are actually still alive, but they were tortured to the point of insanity.
And there I was, all of ten years old reading the ending to Goblet of Fire for the first time. First book that made me cry and the one I've read the most out of the series. Ten year old me was never the same again.
The book lore notes that Neville's parents were captured and tortured by Voldemort with the Cruciatus Curse until they went insane. That's why his reaction was so strong to it and why he knew about the curse.
In the book the Moody secret a tad more subtle in execution. The “on the nose nature” was definitely a result of just how much they condensed the contents of this particular book, as the original work is 700ish pages long (when Rowling started going bonkers with page count), so for pacing reasons this film really made things more obvious for the sake of cuts/rushes than previous entries which were much shorter novels.
That makes a lot of sense! It’s why the movies sometimes seem a bit confusing, or why it’s a little easier to predict when things happen (like with Moody). They either have to try to fit in as many details as possible and then it comes off a bit more rushed/obvious, or there’s way too many details and they can’t fit them all because of the lengths of the books. Your comment made me excited to read the books because I’d love to see the slower building, subtler approach and the intricate details we miss in the movies. Have you read them all already? 700 pages really is bonkers, but I’d 100% read it, especially for a story like this one so far!
@@mentallygonereacts You didn't ask me about reading them, but I thought I'd give you some perspective from someone who first read them as an adult. I'm just a bit older than the initial target audience that was meant to grow up alongside the characters, but not old enough to be the book-buying parents of that target audience. I was probably close in age to what you both are now. The books were an easy but very engaging read. 700 pages really didn't seem like 700 pages.
Always love your reactions plus I'm glad you found some Harry Potter stuff that makes you happy. I don't buy Harry Potter stuff for collectible's sake, but rather for the enjoyment. Finding these treasures at places you least expect is always a treat. I really appreciate your genuineness.
22:04 This scene with the Unforgivable curses hits different when you remember that Barty Crouch Jr. (disguised as Mad Eye) is the one performing the Cruciatus curse in front of Neville Longbottom. 57:28 From Dumbledore's memory, you find out that the reason Barty Crouch Jr. went to Azkaban was due to him torturing Neville's parents using that very same curse...
I just love your review, your discussion after you watch these movies! So thoughtful and deep, got me thinking about so many details and layers and symbols of the story. I loved the parallel you made about Gandalf’s and Dark Lord’s resurrection. The Dark Lord’s being ‘undeserving’. So on point.
Interesting fact Brazil won the quidditch world cup 5 times and make it to the final 3 times and Portugal participate but never made it until the final sadly
I love your channel so much always a good day when Mentally Gone Reacts uploads a video... I love both of you you both have a great personality... I love your really long in depth discussions at the end of you reacting to movies... Continue being yourself you two are amazing together.... Don't let the bad things in life ruin your life you both matter... I am grateful to be apart of your community, keep up the great work on your channel you guy's deserve the world... I'm also praying for your mother to heal & get better...
I was waiting for you to react to this movie. Wow, I’m impressed you guys figured out the fake Moody’s true identity before the reveal. And yes, the Harry Potter franchise does get darker as it progresses.
@@jordy9096 Oh, you are trying too hard, posting the same line under several comments. Are you on a righteous crusade, or do you just go about reaction channels trolling them? :)
@@jordy9096 replying so you know you’re not alone, just listened to it and i am gobsmacked right now… they legit said “we finished all harry potter movies in a month” in 2023 …
Yeah, as someone already said below - you are the first reactors on RU-vid to actually figure out Crouch Jr's deception as early as in the memories scene. That is so cool, you guys are amazing! You also recognized the muggle elder man when his ghost appeared. Figured out that those were the most recent victims of Voldemort's wand. And many other moments, that demonstrate you paying attention and, and respecting everything that a movie is trying to show or tell. That's honestly so heartwarming - this movie is my favorite among the whole HP (I mean, they are all great - but this one I like personally more than others), and it doesn't usually get a lot of love from people. So it is so cool seeing people being so invested in it, and having such empathetic reaction at the end. Also, I take my hat off - two hours dedicated to the post-watching film review is impressive :) Please, keep up with your reactions and reviews. I would be very happy to see your next vids! :)
Fun fact, the snake in movie 1 that Harry accidentally sets free at the zoo during his cousins bday trip is actually Nigini - the snake introduced as Voldemort’s snake. Confirmed and told by J.K. Rowling. She hoped people would notice that about the snake but because we never did she told us
Yes please watch it continuously as they are interconnected and had seen some reactors missing important parts even if they're clearly mentioned in earlier movies. Also love the discussion part you guys doing awesome 👍
WHOOOOO IRELAND my home country as you noticed hogwarts students up to this point have a habit of flip flopping between liking harry to hating him to liking him again cedric's death scene with harry crying has a funny alternative scene instead of the band abruptly stopping they continue playing it makes whats suppose to be a sad scene an hilarious scene....its like this band stops for no one death or no death, you, you can find it on youtube
I’ve been looking forward to this! Ya’ll are easily the most involved when it comes to delving into the lore no matter how small. Well done, seriously! Edit: remember what Ron saw in the Mirror of Erised
I always imagined that the Triwizard must be so boring to watch, like Harry's scene with the dragon is off of the arena. Then you just watch a lake in the next challenge... And then you just stand there watching a maze. Maria Fernanda Candido was like a Hufflepuff character in the fantastic beasts last movie so in my head Hufflepuff is basil canon now ehehe and I like Krum so much. The uniforms of his school are SO COOL. And Gaby, just a tip 🥰 the m word you used to refer to little people, they consider it a very insulting slur. I've had to educate myself in that regard too.
To answer your question about who put Harry’s name in the cup, it was barty crouch jr as mad eye who put Harry’s name in the cup. He said you won the tournament with all the clues because he made it that way. Igor Kargaroff bewitched it to select Viktor Krum to be his schools champion. Dumbledore said he put Harry in danger by allowing him to compete and then not canceling the tournament after Barty Crouch was found dead in the Forrest. The memory pensive was out because Dumbledore was trying to figure out what he was missing. That is why he told Harry every time he gets close it slips away. Once Harry said he was having dreams about Barry’s son, he realized it was really happening and didn’t want Harry to obsess over it and focus on it and you will understand more of that in the next movie. He needs Harry to live in the present and focus on his life and his friends and school and he s trying to protect him from any extra stress if possible
You guys are SO perspective ! You're the first reactors to actually figure the whole thing out (with Moody being Barty Crouch Jr. and drinking polyjuice potion) 🤯 I've seen people suspecting things and even pointing out the tongue thing but you guys went all the way and discovered the whole truth in the middle of the movie 😂 Great job ! Be ready tho, from now it gets darker and darker and harder to hold back tears as well to be faire 🥲
Just found y’all on my recommended page & I’m so excited to dive into your journey of the hp series! I’ve watched so many reactions videos to the Harry Potter movies & y’all get so deep & truly understand the underlying themes & symbolisms & literary analogies & connect them to the real world which I absolutely love & wish more reactors did & this was so cool to listen to your discussion! The books are even more tragic & expose even deeper real world truths which is exactly what J.K. Rowling intended to do. The detail is immaculate in this franchise both books & movies & I can’t wait to watch your reactions to the rest of true series If you plan on reading the books let me know & I’ll refrain from explaining the gaps that were not in the movie but if you don’t I’ll def comment on any questions y’all have that the books explained. Don’t wanna spoil anything for you guys! Can’t wait for your reaction to part 5. Goblet is definitely the “coming of age” turning point in the series & you grow up with the characters as they start to grow into adulthood & become more politically aware of the world around them & the symbolism of life & death is so profound & well written.
I'm so glad that you're back to this guys! You already know about Priori Incantatem, why the two wands connected. But there is an interesting question about this and an interesting consequence. The question is, why did Harry's wand overpower Voldemort's and not the other way round? After all, in terms of sheer magical power Voldemort is incomparably stronger than Harry! You might remember me saying that character and intentions matter in magic. In that moment, Harry accepted that he might die and that's something that Voldemort would never be able to do. He fears death more than anything. So harry's courage was the thing that made his wand so much more powerful! The other interesting thing is that Voldemort at this time has no idea that the wands are twins, so he doesn't understand what happened. He's very scared, he thinks that Harry escaped because he has some secret magical power or skill. And just so you know: the tongue flick is unique to the movie and it's a dead giveaway. That doesn't happen in the book.
WOW! This absolutely blew my mind, I never would have thought about it that way in terms of Voldemort being afraid of death while Harry isn't and that being what distinguishes them from one another and why Harry prevails. I wondered why it seemed that the killing curse is unavoidable and yet Harry somehow manages to overpower it. Now it makes sense why the ghosts of the old muggle man, Cedric and Harry's parents appear, since Voldemort used that spell on them! I'm not sure if there's any connection with that, but it's sill pretty interesting to think about. If it had stuck to the book without the tongue flick, it definitely would've been a bit harder to figure out. We're actually really excited to watch the rest of the films and read the books to learn more about the intricacies of everything. Which film/book is your favorite by the way? - Gabi
@@mentallygonereacts Good question. When it comes to the books I cannot possibly have a favorite as everything is so deeply interconnected that once you finished the series, you realize that comments, questions and phrases that were casually dropped in the earlier books were incredibly significant without you realizing that. From the movies I think my favorite is Prisoner of Azkaban. The wands interconnected because when twin wands are forced to do battle, they refuse. Instead they connect and try to overpower each other. The effect is called Priori Incantatem and in these rare cases it occurs spontaneously. But one can use that spell willingly too. Letțs say you stumble upon a wand and you want to see which were the last spells that it performed. Using your own wand you perform the Priori Incantatem spell on it and it'll have the same effect. Voldemort might have used the Avada kedavra spell correctly, but in order for any spell to take effect, there are conditions: mental strength and focus is one of them, also, sometimes special conditions can prevent a spell from taking effect. I won't say more about this just now. But for example when Moody (or really Barty Crouch Jr.) shows Avada kedavra in the classroom, he clearly says in the book, that the students wouldn't be able to perform it, they don't have what it takes. he actually says something like "You could all point your wands at me and say the spell, and nothing would happen", Incidentally, Avada kedavra is Aramaic for "let the thing be done". In the ancient Aramaic culture it was actually a healing spell and this is where Abracadabra comes from.
@@mentallygonereacts A small detail that you yourself mentioned - it was actually not Voldemort but Wormtail that killed Cedric, BUT he did it with Voldemort's wand he later returned to him, thus the Priori incantatem duly "produced" Cedric's ghost.
In the book Cedric is a great true hero. The film has omitted many small details. And actually big details. The goblet of fire is a massive book and warner brothers offered to make it into two films, but Mike Newell decided to cut it to a single film. Please read the books, or listen to them and you will understand the full power of the story.
First of all I'm so glad you took my advice and will be completing the series before doing other films and not leaving it so long between the movies so we get the continuity and continuous watch along. Secondly, I loved the reaction and how you both dive right into the characters and situations. The part at the end when Cedric dies and his dad screams 😱 always get me! Well done team ❤
The Avada Kedavra/Abracadabra thing. It's kinda even darker if you think of it as that's one of the only spell muggles kinda know, even if not perfectly worded, because it's what wizards have used on them in the past.
@@mentallygonereacts Thanks for the question 🤓 From the "children's" parts, the prisoner of Azkaban! From the "adult" Deathly Hallows part 2. I've watched it in the cinema 7 times 🖤 Everything is perfect in it: depth, plot twists, action, the perfect ending for all 7 books. I'm burning inside, I'd rather see how you look at the development of all the characters: the golden trio, Malfoy, Snape, Dumbledore. I think you will reveal even more meanings to us, as has already happened in the first 4 reactions. Thank you guys so much! ⚡ Sorry if there are errors in the text, English is not my native language =)
Unpopular Opinion: This is my favorite of the saga!! Plus we have the reborn of one of the greatest villains of all time. P.S: I wish you guys upload more often than usual. Peace & Love from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
The movies never give you much of Tom Riddle Jr.'s (Voldemort's) background (we get a little in movie #6) but in the books, especially in "Goblet" and other books, we learn a lot. (NO SPOILERS) His father, Tom Riddle, Sr., was a muggle. His mother, Merope Gaunt, was a witch and a descendant of Salazar Slytherrin (which the in "Chamber" movie and book). Harry's mother, Lily, was a muggle and his father, James Potter, was a wizard and a descendant of a famous wizard which we learn about in a later book but never in the movies. This gives us another similarity between Harry and Tom -- with a twist: Both of Harry's parents died trying to protect him. We learn in one of the books that Tom's father rejected him and his mother, although dead, did not sacrifice her life for love of her son. This speaks to your comparison of Batman and Joker.
Hey bro a while ago I had asked you guys to react to to a movie and you guys did it legit the next week I forgot which but I was so happy. Now there’s a sequence of 3 movies I would like y’all to watch all 3 are amazing and I think you both would love because of the meaning behind them it’s planet of the apes 2011,2014,2017 it’s a sequence I would be so grateful to watch your reactions to it. Respect and love🤍🖤🙌🏼
The fact you both recognized the tongue thing and subsequently figuring out that Crouch Jr. was disguising himself as Moody during the memory of the courtroom is highly impressive. Most of us missed it the 1st time around and most reactors also miss it. It's super obvious now of course but bravo to you!
Half blood prince i feel like is the movie where u can seriously feel the dark turn and how they show it in the directing style, lightning and what not
I subscribed to this channel after your first "Lord of The Rings" reaction. Your comments during the movie are so fun! But this channel's selling point is definitely the post-reaction discussions. So insightful, nuanced and intelligent. I think that once you're done with the "Harty Potte" series, you should definitely react to the Netflix series called "A Series of Unfortunate Events." It's the adaptation of a very unusual book series. ASOUE was to quirky introverts what "Harry Potter" was to everyone else! It would be so cool to hear your discussion styles for this weird universe that is so unlike typical children's literature... and to hear all your theories! "A Series of Unfortunate Events" is way too underrated and I think your style of reaction would be great for that show's style. Anyways, ~the world is quiet here...~
He didn't put 2 and 2 together about the tongue thing because it's not a thing in the books. They made it up in the movie to spoil the plot for some weird reason
Wow what a catch you guys made with barty crouch jr. disguised as moody. You are probably two of a very few people to catch that so early in the movie.
P. S.: Watched to the end. As expected, numerous inspiring insights. Without spoiling, you are very much unto something with the wands and their allegiance to the owner. AND the point about Dumbledore probably being in the know and planning everything - without being actually able to control it all and trusting it to play out - is actually scary! Do return to it as you, in due time, wrap up the whole series.
My favorite is the next one, so glad I found your channel true genuine reactions and I love that :) been up all night watching 🤣👍 gets crazier next movie have fun
Beauxbaton is the wizarding school in France idk why the director made them all female in the books they aren't all female. Nicolas Flamel from the philosophers stone went to Beauxbatons
Harry and the love protection follows a law in this.. there are some laws that cames together, that we will explain you after the last movie The dragon challenge finished harry as fastest, thats why he was first after this task, and why he was celebrated after beeing bullied before..
Back to the merpeople theory Harry is seeing the world as it truly is no illusion, it’s rawest form. Beauty or anything that can be seen just at surface level can cloud a persons mind and make one not choose to look deeper metaphorically speaking. the temptation is greater than thinking about what is stripped away to reveal the bare bones of what it truly means to be our best self completely pure.
This is probably my most watched HP movie overall. Theres crack in it. It’s so fun. And HILARIOUS for no reason. And then it ends with evil blood magic and a child dying. 10/10 no notes.
The boys’ hair are longer because they were told not to cut their hair during the filming break. They were supposed to get hair cuts when they returned. It was decided to leave them long & the actors hated it.
Actually, the director wasn't told the plan for haircuts, so he mistook the long hair for a current teenage thing. He wanted them to look authentic, so told them to leave the hair alone. Big misunderstanding!
