Out of Obedience... 

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How divinely awesome! Congratulations!!

Congratulations!!!🎉

Congrats

Amazing bro! Welcome home!

I think broadly speaking, yes, people would think celibacy is the hardest part; however, for those of us whom are asexual, it's very easy. I know we don't need to get into a whole lgbtq shitshow but attractions-- or lack there of-- are very real.

Poverty and celibacy both serve obedience, which is what drove Christ to the Cross, His obedience to the Holy Spirit

​@@quisutdeus2755Was it not His obedience to the Father?

@@Testimony_Of_JTF guided by the Holy Spirit whom He had received from the Father at his Baptism, it was also obedience to the Father of course but a better way to describe it would be saying abandonment to the Father and accepting the guidance of the Holy Spirit

Jesus didn’t “receive the Holy Spirit” at his baptism that’s the adoptionism heresy .

Wow. Beautiful story, brother. May God bless you

I agree, but it was more than obedience. He willingly chose it; it wasn't a command like unto Job. He struggled with the commitment in Gethsemane because he was fully human as well as divine, but he knew it was his purpose and chose to continue. I say all this to ensure we all do not forget Jesus' agency.

⁠@@austenl43I’m unsure if you are Catholic but just in case I’m going to throw the Catholic teaching on the matter for both clarification and growth in devotion. Jesus is a divine person and from conception his created human nature and will was perfectly united to the divine nature and thus also the divine will. Jesus knew from birth his mission and always beheld the beatific vision even when on the cross. In Jesus’ human nature he wills its own safety but also both in human nature and divine nature wills to do the will of the Father.

A more apt example since none of us are Christ, is when Peter and the apostles were beaten in the temple and told not to utter the name of Jesus. They defied the wicked temple authorities, and rejoiced in being permitted to suffer for Our Lord. Never obey a creature if it conflicts with obeying the Creator. The consequences otherwise are a damned shame.

lol, the greatest example of taking a three day weekend. tell me, how does an immortal become mortal, die, come back to life, become immortal again, how exactly does that work? and did the romans kill god? or did jesus trick everyone? the talking snake and donkey cult is funny.

​@@ItBeTheWayItDoSomeTimes from baptism*

Tongues are actual languages not babble. But 👋🏻 make videos on women dressing modestly mimicking the way nuns dress, including the veil. Not some silly napkin on their head or some see-through lingerie. An actual opaque veil, like the hijab in Islam. And remind the wives to obey the husbands in everything (except sin) as is owed. God bless ☕🙏🏻👋🏻🇻🇦

Love doesn't obey.. Because love is free.

@@heinmolenaar6750 I agree that the foundation of the obedience should be always in the love of God. You trust God, and love Him, so, you obey. It's no a slave relation, but He is God, we are man. Look at Jesus, as a human, he doesn't desire the sofriment, but, because he love the Father and humankind and the Father loves Him, so, he chose to be obedient until the very end. That's the virtue of obedience, so, love is indeed, obedient.

@@heinmolenaar6750Look at the saints. Obedience is love of God.

Love = obedience. If that were true that would mean, to love your enemy is to be obedient to them. St Paul tells us what love is Corinthians 4-7. He does not mention obedience. The only time we hear of obedience is from Jesus to follow His commandments, that's how we love Jesus and the Holy Trinity. People in religious orders make a vow to be obedient to their superiors and the rule, lay people don't.

Amen 🙏

who is this they? sounds like a dumb saying.

@@HarryNicNicholas St. Faustina.

True enough

@@valwhelan3533 How about casting out demons and doing miracles in Jesus name?

‘Humility is the only thing that no devil can imitate’ St John Climacus The devil must obey God. ‘Every knee shall bow’

admitting to being catholic is weird, catholicism is just organised crime isn't it? has the pope stopped apologising for all the abuse?

Amen!

Indeed. This was been refreshing. God bless you Brian

Thank you for you obedience to the teaching and this is a difficult subject with my 3 daughters in conversation

Which is why the devil wants feminism so badly. To destroy the patriarchy

Can I ask what you mean by asking permission for little things? How little are we talking? I get what you are saying about complementary roles within marriage, but this can, in some cases, become a rationalization for what amounts to coercive, controlling behaviour on the part of a spouse. Not assuming that is the case here, but the need to ask permission in “little things” did raise the question for me.

obedience is not the same as submission. we are not supposed to blindly follow orders. that is slavery. in order for this dynamic to work the head (the husband) is actually sacrificing himself for this wifes needs (as christ did for the church) so both spouses are living for the same goals. You're not there to support a man as he follows his dreams and builds a career for himself. this is a modern secular value, not a christian one. the mans primary value should be for his family, not his goals and dreams primarily at the expense of his wife and family. His will should be for his family. He should see what his wife needs and provide it. and as the head, he should take the lead on this.

@@johndeighan2495 the “little things” for me is those that make him feel included in stuff I do alone. I’m purposely over correcting, he says “of course” because these are things that really don’t matter. I’m a hard headed woman who’s basically done whatever I wanted for 3 decades, asking is including him though he really isn’t involved. We have always been partners and we don’t manipulate or coerce the other. Now that he’s home all the time I found myself excluding him because I was used to just doing things and that’s not a good thing at all.

Only God can open the door if you ask. On his time. Not ours. Thanks be to the Most Holy Trinity

Best comment. It’s no virtue to obey the Sanhedrin or the Romans and betray Christ. If Brian wants to obey peadoughs and disobey Quo Primum then he has chosen eternal damnation. I think Brian would rather please the sick old men of this world than to take the difficult road of pleasing God.

Right. That's why I said it was the highest _natural_ virtue - aside from faith, hope, and love.

@@BrianHoldsworth If I could posit my own question, independent of the comments here above, but in response to the crux of the disagreement: If you made those past videos as an act of faith, hoping they would be of some theological benefit to those who saw them, because of your love for God, His Church, and your fellow man, then wouldn't the faith, hope, and love in them outweigh or even imply obedience? God bless.

I think Brian’s attitude is a lot more humble and gracious than yours, and it’s not close.

I’m just jumping in here, I realise… but no, I get what Brian is doing and why. Obedience is the form of faith. And also the form of love. The Bible talks about “the obedience of faith”. Jesus says “anyone who loves me will obey my commandments.” Does that mean every act of obedience is by definition an act of theological faith and love? No, of course not: we don’t admire those N*sis who were “just following orders”. Yet the converse is true: every genuine act of faith and love is also an act of obedience. And deeper faith and love correlates to purer obedience. I admire Brian for desiring to grow in obedience.

Error has no rights

If we are speaking of obedience to the church than this is complicated. God is eternal and therefore, so is His church and its teachings. Everyone, including clergy, is required to obey its teachings. They can not make a law that stands in opposition to another previous teaching.

Does St. Thomas believe the Church proclaims unjust laws?

The Faculty of the Theology of the Sorbonne went against John XXII's error on the Beatific Vision thankfully leading to his repentance. St. CatherineofSiena opposed the election of Clement II though every Cardinal voted him in after tossing UrbanVI under the bus.

No. The magisterium hands on (tradere) Christ Himself.

Who are the "some people"?

@@ndumferdy2545 The ones who put down Catholic Traditions at every turn while gleefully donning a native american feather headrests, for instance. That's just an example. I'm not implying that has actually happened or anything like that.

​@@Safe-and-effectiveThat actually happened!!

​@ndumferdy2545 where have you been??!

@@deluge848 Yes. I was being sarcastic.

christians can't do that, they have to make sure they don;'t annoy god, you can't have integrity and be a suck up.

Integrity... Can't see that on the list of virtues. Freemason idea, I believe.

@@wolfthequarrelsome504 I think integrity comes in the form of the exercising all of the virtues.

She was obedient to God

​@@peaceandlove544 Given by a messenger not directly and the foundation of Her Son's Church and the Keys to the Kingdom ( to Heaven & Hell ) were given to the Pope & Bishops NOT the Bible or even an angel.

@@peaceandlove544 our lady of the subservience. lol. make yer minds up, can women go to work or not?

@@josephodoherty7864 there is no god, it's all poorly thought out stories. grow up, santa is not bringing that train set you prayed for.

No, it leads to hell

@@heinmolenaar6750 lol quoting satan today on a christian page? That's weird.

All religions have caused great suffering to humanity. Especially islam and christianity. ​@@haronsmith8974

@@heinmolenaar6750 Idk dude seems like what lucifer would say

I saw that on the Saints Alive show, episode 4 I think, about St Augustine.

I think Brain answered this with the Pontius Pilate example.

Your question & the conclusion you draw is a fallacy. There may be much you should be obeying (ie., in the scope of their authority) by these leaders instruction while there are things that make you angry. The angry reaction may indicate you need spiritual direction or perhaps highlight that they are actually saying something you need to hear. If you know that the teaching of the Church is true it's irrelevant that these individuals fail to live up to it. Obedience covers defending the Church & it's teaching while simultaneously calling out some bad behaviour but do be wary of spotting motes in the eyes of others...you know the rest.

Your response is nonsense. You obey God first not man even if he be a cleric of the church teaching heresy.

You seem to redefine Obedience to your taste because you wish to obey, yet you do not wish to sacrifice your will. Pick one.

@@josephodoherty7864 I didn't say every time you are angry then you shouldn't obey. I said if submission of will is causing real violence interiorly to you and is thus making you frustrated at God then you shouldn't do it. Mine is a minimalist claim about anger and you made it maximalist.

And maybe we aren't commanded to do that now. By what authority do you hold that view?

Citation needed.

​@@Dan-mm7gc St. Catherine of Siena is a doctor of the Church. Thus far there are four female saints who are doctors of the Church: Saint Teresa of Avila, Saint Thérèse of Lisieux, Saint Hildegard of Bingen, and Saint Catherine of Siena. Doctors of the Church are recognized for the quality of their writing and thought. Saint Catherine of Siena lived during the Western Schism, a time when two and ultimately three rivals claimed to be the valid Pope. The period was unsurprisingly marked by demoralization and corruption. The quote comes from her 16th letter to an unidentified "great prelate". Saint Catherine of Siena, being from Siena, was Italian and thus her original statement was in that language. She wrote "Oimè, non più tacere! Gridate con cento migliaia di lingue. Veggo che, per tacere, il mondo è guasto, la Sposa di Cristo è impallidita, toltogli è il colore, perchè gli è succhiato il sangue da dosso, cìoè che il sangue di Cristo, che è dato per grazia e non per debito." The quote “We've had enough exhortations to be silent. Cry out with a thousand tongues - I see the world is rotten because of silence.” is the most common English summary of her words. Another and more literal translation from the Italian is: "Be silent no more! Cry out with one hundred thousand tongues. I see that, because of this silence, the world is in ruins, the Spouse of Christ has grown pale; the color is taken from her face because her blood has been sucked out, that is the blood of Christ, which is given as a free gift and not by right." which is a bit more forceful and emphatic. As for "After a point, to be silent is to be complicit" that is my own observation, based on observation and participation in criminal law. There are reasons malefactors appreciate omerta. Silence creates no disturbance to evil doers, and allows their crimes to perpetuate. Larceny, trafficking, abuse and deceptions of all kind. But one need not be a principal to participate. The sympathetic or intimidated observer can participate by first becoming and obscurantist, and ultimately an accomplice. The Saint here is attempting to discourage such complicity.

But we shouldn't presume that we can discern that in the same way as this Saint did. Which is why we need obedience.

@@Quekksilber We all know evil when we see it. To cosset evil through silent acceptance is to assist in its spread and perpetuation. It also shirks the duty of warning the evil doer of their evil deeds and the consequences. It also requires false humility to justify the shirking. False humilty is a form of pride.

@@Dan-mm7gc I provided the citation you demanded but it was removed. How uncharitable of someone towards you. It is within the saint's 'Letter letter #16, to an unidentified “great prelate”, and in the orginal is "Oimè, non più tacere! Gridate con cento migliaia di lingue. Veggo che, per tacere, il mondo è guasto, la Sposa di Cristo è impallidita, toltogli è il colore, perchè gli è succhiato il sangue da dosso, cìoè che il sangue di Cristo, che è dato per grazia e non per debito."

Lmbo! This isn’t true at all! It’s difficult even when the superior knows what he is asking…

@@Stripemas If you don't have the virtue, sure. Anything can be difficult if you suck at it.

@@Michael-vf2mwdude, you should see how Christ reacted to obedience… that might be a Good indicator.

@@Stripemas I don't follow, dude. Care to elaborate?

👏👏👏 Agreed. He deletes his videos and all that results is more extremes. Brian is one of the few who addressed some pretty tough issues with tact and charity, and has shown the world that you can be traddy without being a nasty wackadoo.

In these times we need more of the spirit of the Cristeros not less. + Viva Cristo Rey! +

One hundred percent agree. This is terribly misguided.

@@Timblisi 9:23 "...not necessarily because those criticisms aren't legitimate, but because there's way too much of that content on the internet right now..." I reiterate my original comment: by declining to engage in political commentary, he does not meaningfully reduce the amount of "that content on the internet" to any significant degree, but only removes his own "legitimate" criticism.

@@Timblisi >"I choose to place a little faith in the man's judgment." Then you have more faith in him than he apparently has for himself.

Soooo...every time it is ask of you, you need to be convinced of such?

So do you usually obey things you suspect are bat crazy or a flagrant abuse of authority? It's not as if church authorities havent abused their authority in spectacular fashion. We hear very little about the responsibilities of leaders not to confuse the faithful or abuse their power . ​@@Musashination

Mr. Holdsworth said‘ obedience’; but you heard ‘BLIND obedience’. It is quite apparent how much of this virtue you actually have.

The intention of the person obeying determines whether they are actually obeying, merely agreeing, cultivating favours, acting out of fear of consequences, etc. It's always and everywhere good to obey God, because He is God.

I actually believe in blind obedience in a sense, especially with church matters. This is mainly because the church gives me commands like "do good" "confess your sins" do penance" "go to mass" etc. So it's basically irrelevant if this or that higher up were caught up in some scandal. Think back to the middle ages. Probably every farmer in the village knew which priest had which concubine. And they probably didn't care, either. Instead of defiantly calling these clergy out, they were probably more focused on staying in their own lane and living the best Christian life they could. This way of thinking is probably foreign to contemporary America ("By golly, this is a democracy my vote counts!" "This Bishop puts his pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us", etc)

Learn the faith and repent