Outlive the Ordinary: Secrets of Extended Battery Lifespan Unveiled 

Have 213,000 km on my Model S - Still have about as much as I had after 2 months of operation.

It depends on the automakers. Some of them provide first-hand car owners battery warranties for all lifetime, with batteries of CATL(Qilin & Shenxing) or BYD(Blade).

No, we don't

8 years warranty doesn't mean the battery will last 8 years. ICE vehicles have less than 8 years of warranty but we don't expect the engine to just stop working when the warranty expires.

No CATL current cells have 8 years healthy life time warranty,CATL it self is not happy with current batteries healthy life time which is not that impressive and will cause waste of too much resources ,efforts and time to replace the batteries for a brand new one; that is why they(CATL) just interduced "zero degradation technology" 2 month ago,which will provide zero deg rate for battery's first 1000 cycles or 6 years of life time,which is mind blowing,i think these 16 years and 2 million km warranty claim is for their next gen battery cells which will be interduced this year with "zero deg tech" use in developing them,they already use this new tech in their TENER energy storage systems which has LFP chemistry and zero degradation tech as i mentioned,16 years and 2 million km warranty is only achievable with this new zero deg technology

​@Legate_Lanius ice vechiles... we expect a part to fail within the warranty for a good percentage of cases and need replacement of part. Then a full rebuild ect after 3 / 400 000 ks if your verry lucky.

LOL how many cars drive beyond 500 000 miles, that is 25 years of normal driving. In general most cars are already worn out at this stage.

Yes majority of the time LFP has a longer calendar life than NCM.

CATL LFP model 3 has 4-5% degradation at 50k miles. NCM has 6.5% degradation at 50k miles. something to note is that LFP plateaus gently after the first 50k miles while NCM Panasonic (fremont long range) deteriorates to 9.5% at 100k miles. NCM LG (shanghai long range) does not seem to deteriorate as much as Panasonic. so there is a difference between LFP and NCM but it is not big compared to the LG NCM pack.

CATl LFP Batteries are excellent and market leading.

It is correct that LFP batteries generally have a longer calendar life.✔ However, NCM batteries typically experience a lower throughput during regular use, which can effectively extend their cycling life.😁

You're right but I hate leasing.

It's a good idea but you still need the batteries to be good, otherwise the residual value drops and you have to pay for that difference in the cost of the lease..

LFP batteries can be charged and discharged completely. With 3000 cycles above 80%, you would be about 1 500 000 KM.

@@danielvilliers612 but you would be stuck everywhere, when you discharge to 0 and overprovisioning is still helpful for LFP. Maybe your car manufacturer will do it for you, so you don't have to think about it. Battery pack failures are cascading. So just because it should last 1500000 Km doesn't mean it will. And a pack with 40- 60% usable capacity is barely useable in a car anymore, so I would say it's worth it to preserve the higher max charge and max current capability.

physical damage may be affected by pack design and might be beyond CATL's control

they have videos on puncture resistance, also, so many Evs now have been in catastrophic accidents and have had no issues with battery fires. unlike a tank of petrol of diesel which are renowned for being ruptured in big accidents, and exploding incinerating passengers.

@@SydneyEV I guess you were sayin about LFPs. Its not the case for NMCs.

@@YBT07 Yep, LFP is becoming a much better chemistry as time goes on.

It's not just a commercial. It's information that people need to know. I'm glad to see CATL doing it. I wish Tesla did.

It can be a commercial and a lesson lol.

You know you're on the CATL RU-vid channel?

Watch it all.

swappable packs are less likely to last as long as installed packs because of differences in usage by participants

16 years or 2M km before battery replacement is needed

50% after 8 years would be covered by warranty. Most car makers garanty at least 70% after 8 years.

Swappable batteries are a bad idea for passenger vehicles and may be good only for specific use cases. It makes the car heavier, and having hundreds of swapping stations brimmed with battery packs sitting there doing nothing is a huge capital cost.

The high performance cars like Porsche Taycan are 240 to 460 kW power, so they must have a battery with at least that power. Those batteries are about 80 kWh energy.

Li-Ion cells can withstand discharge of 10C or even more (but with more losses). At 80kWh battery pack at 10C discharge would provide 800kW of power, in already existing cars like Model S Plaid or Lucid Air.

Keep your 80% inefficient engine.

@@grenenthomas8115 Engine?? What engine?? Since when has a horse and cart had an engine?? 🤭😂