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+Ostensibly Average Damn, that's a good take. I was just thinking Aang was saying that because he's been almost continuously ignored by Katara throughout the show in regards to how he feels about her.
I dont know if anyone else caught this, but as we follow the story of Roku, it starts in the morning when Roku is young, then as Roku gets older and goes through the different Avatar trials, the sun gets higher, until it's at its peak when Roku throws all 4 elements out, then when Sozin tells Roku about his plan, the sun is getting lower, when Roku and Sozin are both older the sun is almost set, and finally when Roku dies it's night time. THEN WHEN WE SEE AANG BORN, IT'S MORNING AGAIN
This is a genius comment and I never noticed that. Similar to lake laogai (kinda) in the way that Zuko hits a big low with his inner emotions and Jet dies in the dark of the underground but when the episode ends, they come out into the light and get appa back and Zuko reconsiders who he is meant to be.
@@marcelinoquintana5149 they do mention sokka meeting korra, but only when she was only 2 or 3 years old. When the red lotus attempted to kidnap korra, tenzon recalled "your father, Lord zoko, chief sokka and I managed to stop them"
@@elzar5987 I like how much of the fanbase has agreed that, since we don't see Sokka in Korra and Katara mentioned that he's gone, this is when he died, protecting the next Avatar, just like he would have done with Aang
Dude, I’ve thought about it a bit and I’m pretty sure that the head peace that Iroh gave to Zuko wasn’t the one Roku had, it was Iroh’s, because he used to be crown prince. That really makes this a lot more beautiful.
That is nice, but I think the pint was that there was only ever one, and it just got handed down from crowned prince to crowned prince. But I guess if they lost one to a natural disaster, well, time to make a new one???
If you think of it, it's possible Iroh probably excavated it or came across during his spiritual/finding self journey through the world after his son was killed and after he stepped down from being a general. Honestly it sounds like something he would've done
But Iroh discovered the sun people who had dragons when he was young, long before his son died (or was probably born). He got his nickname "the dragon of the west" by claiming he killed the last dragon before the siege of Ba Sing Sa.
@@hunacean Well who sent Zuko Iroh's letter in the same episode? We don't exactly know because they never really told us or hinted at who it was, highly doubt the guard he was buddy buddy with did it even though she was very nice
"It's only once in a blue moon, so I'll let it slide." A blue moon is the second full moon within a month; considering the show we're talking about, I think you could have used a better metaphor.
I can't believe you didn't mention that the whole war started with the avatar and the fire lord falling out, and ended by them befriending each other again. Awesome notice of the camera moves though. Love it.
@@MoBot249 good point. You might be right that he's saving it till the end. But he does make references to future episodes sometimes. Anyhow, stupid nitpicky stuff in a really good RU-vid channel 😊
14:58 notice how the prison bar covers Zuko's good eye when talking about Sozin as his grandfather, and then moves over to cover his bad eye when talking about Roku
@@MomoAfterDark sozin is his father's grandfather. Roku is his mother's grandfather. Azulon is his grandfather/Ozai and irohs father. It is pretty confusing with all the zs lol 😂
I don't know if anybody else already said this, but I think the reason Aang was so impressed by Roku fighting the volcano was because of all the things you mentioned, and the fact that Aang had all the town's benders helping him plus Katara. Roku did it alone
the scene where sozin "steals the heat from the volcano in the form of volcanic fumes" I think is another form of energy bending. like lightning. if you think about it, lightning is the "pure" form of fire bending. but in reality it is just a form of bending the Chi in yourself to create a difference in energy. if you could use some form along the lines of lightning redirection. you would be able to redirect the energy of the volcano through yourself and calm it down, we already know that sozin has some intimate knowledge of how the other forms of bending operate and fight. so I don't think it is a far shot to think that he could pull the energy of the volcano through himself and redirect it as the fumes associated with the volcanic eruption. allowing for that shows sozin is a truly great master of fire bending, even stepping towards energy bending on a level that Iroh shows. that leads to a much more accurate and terrifying depiction of what he must have been like during the start of the war. as someone who can harness knowledge of the other nations to steal the energy and calm a volcano, it makes sense that he would be able to wipe out the air benders. It seems like the technique he used to calm the volcano was a form of air bending itself. just on the energy front like lightning is a water bending form for fire benders to harness internal energy or redirect external energy.
Roku could have just left. I mean were Was Fang 20 seconds prior to his arrival. Sozins dragon came right on time, Fang just chilled to long. But then Roku, even hardly damaged by the vulcano, shound be able to push himself into the sky with a really small earth platform, to jump on Fang and fly away. But plot needed him to die there. Or make an earth bubble like Aang did with the ice. And after some time get out
The fact that Sozin’s statue is in the catacombs makes sense because according to Zuko in the firebending masters it was Sozin who popularized hunting dragons for sport. These may be the dragons that were killed during that period.
The scene where Sozin just piles grass on Roku's face is one of my absolute favourite little scenes. It's so real lol. Always makes me giggle. I just love it.
I would defend Sozin’s longevity given the fact that 1) King Bumi and Aang knew each other before Aang was frozen rendering him at least 112 years old 2) In the episode The Northern Air Temple, the man who tells Aang about the Airwalkers says that his great grandfather saw them last week. That man was already an adult and his great grandfather was still alive 3) Guru Pathik says he was a personal friend of Monk Gyatso Based on those facts, the fact of Sozin living to be 145 works within this Universe.
Damn, all these guys living centuries and then there's Azulon's reign of 23 years. I wonder if perhaps Azulon simply spent most of his adult life waiting for Sozin to finally die so he could become the fire lord. Or maybe Sozin's line about spending the last of his days searching for Aang was very literal and he left Azulon in charge of the nation and war for the remainder of his reign, adding some unofficial years to Azulon's reign that aren't counted because he was technically still the crown prince. Might fit thematically since Ozai does something similar to Azula when he goes all Phoenix King and decides to burn the whole world himself.
Redeye this makes sense bc I don't see Azulon being a shitty leader and only for so little time. Like if your family is that great and powerful it makes sense to lose out on your reign if your father is still around and powerful
One more interesting detail about this episode is it's the first time we hear Iroh speak since the end of Book Two, which was 6 whole episodes ago. This was probably done because the original voice actor Mako Iwamatsu had passed away and was replaced by Greg Baldwin, so the long gap made the voice change less noticeable, but it adds so much weight to when we finally hear Iroh speak again to deliver a massive plot twist and one of the most important pieces of dialogue in the entire show.
Something not talked about is Ron Perlman's acting as old Sozin. When he first appears, his voice is light, happy, and friendly. But when he betrays Roku, it goes back to that deep villian voice that Ron uses for Slade and the Lich. It almost sounds like a different person, which describes Sozin's heel-turn .
Ron Perlman voiced him?! Imagine sozin with Ron's iconic Villain like the Lich(I know his slade also terrifying but just the Lich is my favorite cosmic horror villain)
When Iroh was telling Zuko both of his great grandfathers, the bars divided zuko's face "Sozin was your father's grandfather" *shows zuko's face with the scar* "Your mother's grandfather was avatar roku" *shows zuko's face without the scar*
@@randomgamerdude98 honestly all I could think of is the scene in Hard Day's Night when John's looking at Paul's grandpa like "that's not your grandfather, I've met your grandfather" and Paul goes "well everyone's entitled to two, aren't they?"
Re: Roku's headpiece, they're showing it to be right next to Roku's bed. Even after 25 years of not speaking to his best friend, he still carries it with him.
I love SOzin's story - a classic, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions; and many empires in history have led with an idea of "bringing culture to the uncultured." It's also great to see how through his probably brooding, it moves further from just colonies to straight up conquering and successive firelords take it to more extremes.
Yeah but the ‘colony’ was set up in an Earth Kingdom City. They were conquering by that point. I agree though, every Firelord went farther in their cruelty and ambitions (Azulon cared about his family and the core islands of the fire nation and Ozai didn’t care about anything other than himself)
@@LordWyatt oh yeah, it definitely a conquering; but it was this deluded "I need to do it to help you." - in his mind, did he believe it? Or was it just a cover to consolidate power?
@@darko-man8549 I think it was a mix of both. Sozin wanted to “share th[e firenation’s] prosperity with the rest of the world” by “expanding” “the most successful empire in history”. He was the head of that Empire so naturally he’d gain power as his influence over the world grew but he didn’t set out from the beginning to conquer the world but essentially better it through the Firenation (most empires through history have this mentality). Firenation wins, world wins, everyone wins. Unfortunately for him, his best friend traveled the world for twelve years mastering the elements and saw the wisdom in the differences/division of the world. As such he saw through the hopeful ambitions and pointed out the world must remain as four (not one ruling the other three). Sozin countered saying Roku didn’t consider any possibilities/compromises and Roku made it clear there are No possibilities. (This is why I have a problem with the Comics saying Roku left the Colonies as they were so basically they had a right to be there older than Avatar Aang🤦♂️. Apparently I wrongly assumed Roku stopped Sozin’s plans even if several years after he launched his invasion plans but nah, he just let it go for 25 years)
He never had good intentions though, he was mad cause he was passed up by Roku for Avatar. He just told Roku he wanted to share the prosperity of the fire nation as a way to test and see if Roku would try to stop him form expanding.
The one thing I'd have loved this episode to do is for Sozin's intentions to be brought into question at some point. "Sharing prosperity" is such a cliche and weak excuse for imperialism that you'd think Roku (or someone else) would at least cast doubt on it rather than just saying "no don't, conquering people is bad".
About the hairpiece thing... Iroh got it, so it must have been passed down to them. Either Roku or Sozin took it back from the village. If Roku did, it indicates that Roku still had friendly feelings for Sozin, so he kept it. If Sozin did, it must symbolize how Sozin betrayed Roku, that he even got his hairpiece back. It is a simple scene that carries a lot of meaning.
Now that i think about it... the hair piece was supposed to be for the heir to the throne, right? So it makes sense that Iroh has it, as he was supposed to take the throne (before Ozai killed Azulon). So it also makes sense that he gives it to Zuko, who is the rightful heir next in line, also foreshadowing Iroh refusing to claim the throne in the white lotos episode.
It is a really valid question why Roku appears as an old man, as far as I can tell all the other Avatars appear in their prime. Maybe Roku saw himself at his best in his old age.
I've heard that the Avatars are depicted the age of when something drastic happens. For Kyoshi, it was when she took down Chin the Conqueror, for Roku, it was when Sozin let him die and begin the war. Maybe the clothing could be the outfit the Avatar wore in their life that is native to their birth element?
i am still hyped up for the last episode. aswell as the lion-turtle. (was that the english name? i just translated it literally from my language) That means, if i would feel anything at the moment, i would be.
@@jeremybabin7435 alright. thought maybe they didnt make the name translatable literally over languages. just like film titles. then again, since when are characters not?
Personal theory. Each of the spritual forms are how they truly see themselves. Aang during ATLA sees himself in his nomad clothes and without hair because up to this point that's who he was for the longest time. Roku sees himself as he looked near the end of his life because he probably accepted he was always growing. He was always the best version of himself he could be every day. I think it would be interesting if Aang got that treatment in Korra, but he just saw himself as most of the other Avatars did. As who they were in their prime.
They could’ve done something special like it was linked to a large trauma like Roku/Kioshi/Korik/YangChen (or better yet have him remain young or even a teenager to show how large the War/Postwar decisions affected him). But no Unalak’s bloodbending without using the moon is SOOOOO impactful🤦♂️ Edit: also Aang took away the Firelord’s fire bending, no big deal. Aang takes away Unalak’s, *real shit*
@@docomega7862 he died at physical age of 65-66 if my calculations are right. actually not that old for the standarts we see around the series, but still, he was already an old man.
While watching this video, I just realized that at 16:38 Toph asked Aang if friendships can last more than one lifetime and Aang agrees. Decades later in LoK, Toph and the avatar meet again through Korra and I love that she even refers to Korra as "twinkle toes" when they meet again. She experienced the answer to her own question
@@zero.Identity Having seen some weird doujin in my time, I'm pretty sure them knowing this concept would disturbingly enough just inspire them to make more.
Honestly Avatar holds a deep place in my heart, you ever get those sad memories and you miss the smell, vibes etc, but watching avatar brings it all back? I’ve literally watched it 50+ times. Watching these videos really means a lot.
Sozins advanced age actually makes sense when you remember that Kyoshi Canonically lived until she was 233 due to how spiritually strong she was. And maybe a lot of that is just Avatar Stuff, but I think 149 isnt unachievable by a normal person if they are a similar level of spiritual strong. And since bending is connected to spiritual strength iirc, and sozin has mad bending strength and knowledge, that seems like hes pretty in touch with the spirit world. Just..you know. Maybe the evil parts.
My guess is the "smokebending" is more akin to energybending, as in bending the heat energy directly out of the magma so that it cools faster. You mentioned yourself that Sozin appears to be an insanely skilled firebender from what we're shown, so it makes sense that he'd be trained in some fairly advanced techniques 👀
with fire you can see the heat above it, but in animation you need something to represent that heat. hence the use of smoke. sometimes you have to take liberties to get a message across
It's probably exactly that. Sozin ruled during a time of peace amongst the nations, so the Fire Nation still adhered to their ancient techniques, which involved energy bending that was not inspired from rage. It's evident that the Fire Nation's bending style shifted from the original when the Dragon Hunting and the conquest began, therefore they lost the energy and chi aspect of their fire bending, and only maintained the fire and lightning aspects.
It always seemed like a shoe-in for lightning redirection. Sozin may have been too hot-headed to generate lightning, and didn't value the mindset of "savages" enough to learn how to redirect it, but channeling heat is what a firebender does. Iroh using the heat redirection stance with the mindset of a "humble guide" to redirect lightning is really plausible.
I figured in the same way that Water Benders can bend cold (to some extent) as they can turn water into ice and snow, Fire Benders are able to bend thr heat of things (Explaining explosion bending to an extent)
I'm pretty sure the Sozin room is literally the grave of Sozin. Also, it's always nice to mention how when Iroh talks about Sozin - the bar covers the right side of Zuko, but the moment Iroh mentions Roku - it covers the left side, the scarred face.
@@beastmaster0934 its the scarred eye that shows when Iroh talks Sozin, and the bar moves across and shows his unscarred eye when Iroh tells him about Roku
For some reason, I'm always so hyped when a new Overanalyzing Avatar comes out. I've seen the series at least 5 times over, but it's so fun finding out all that stuff that you point out. It's like seeing the series through a whole new set of eyes
I do really like that Toph asks Aang if he thinks friendships can surpass lifetimes, and she then appears in legend of Korra, I honestly just think that’s a really sweet touch.
I really like that Toph is the one to ask the friendship question. We see in her tone and posture, that she hopes that the answer is yes since she spend most of her childhood being alone with no friends. So I think she needed that kind of comfort that even death won't be able to separate them and she won't ever be alone again.
7:17 if you look at the border of the city, there’s no ice wall like the one when Aang visited which likely implies that they built it when war began to protect themselves against the fire nation.
7:00 The Avatar struggles with the element that is opposite their personality and not their element, if it were the element then Korra would of struggled with fire but she mastered that easily and Air bending was what she struggled with because it was the opposite of her personality.
@@cvilla1944 it was the same with Aang though, Aang, for example, had all the freedoms in the world, including the ability to fly away from all his problems, that's why Earth is the element he struggled with, Earth is the element of stability and strength. Also Kyoshi the Earthbending Avatar struggled with Waterbending and not airbending which is Earths natural opposite so there goes the theory of the avatar struggling with their natural opposite since that was written by The Last Airbender's writers and not The Legend Of Korra's writers.
I always figured Sozin mimicking the other benders was a subtle demonstration of how much more open-minded the “pre-Sozin” era Fire Nation was before the cultural regression and rise of totalitarianism that’s eluded to throughout book 3. And that the “heat bending” just needed a visual representation like air bending does. Honestly, it’s no more of a stretch than creating lightning which you could argue is closer to the purview of airbending.
I know some people don’t like Korra, but I think it’s really cool how Toph asking Aang if he thinks friendships can last multiple lifetimes kind of foreshadowed Korra being trained by her in the future.
people hate on Korra way too much for too many nitpicks, yes theres a lot of flaws due to internal production problems but even then, its nowhere near trash as people deem it.
@@sebastianmanthey742 exactly. its reasonable that the bar for the series was high because of how incredible ATLA is, but people really set their bars WAY higher than what would be at least good, and just place it on trash tier disregarding all of the many good parts it still has which are still most of the show.
13:34 According to iroh, firebending is the manipulation of heat. firebenders cannot bend without heat. It makes sense that a well-learned master firebender could manipulate heat like that.
Could a firebender manipulate somebody's internal body temperature then? Some spontaneous combustion bending is exactly what I'd like to see in an adult avatar spinoff of some kind
I've always appreciated the detail that goes into literally "overanalyzing" the episodes, but this one (even being a longtime fan) really displays why I love this channel. Explaining the camera framing between Zuko and Iroh so effortlessly, that it makes you go "how did I miss that?!" is what makes this channel an absolute gem.
also he manages to squeeze that in really short videos. if i imagine a video titled like that, i imagine it to be at least one hour long. and a boring voice. but you keep looking it cuz its interesting. Even though this one wasnt really short. it just felt like 10 min. and his 10 min. vids feel like 5 min. on the other hand thats a shame because i want more of it.
@@nd_4726 not to be TOO impolite, but do you know what 'subconscious' means? Yes, most people didn't notice, and didn't think about it. That's the point. It still affects how we're absorbing the storytelling. Just how visual storytelling works. Things like framing, lighting, perspective angles, etc all matter, even to the people who aren't sitting down and thinking about each scene.
@@potatoesstarch2376 I do know, but they're assuming that your brain picks up everything, but it doesn't. If it goes into your subconscious, then you would already know it. Realizing it isn't already knowing it. Also, the people who complain about all that stuff but lighting are not the average person.
I fucking love the line "some friendships are so strong they can even transcend life times" it's so fucking good like I find it so powerful its amazing
I like how in Korra she struggled with airbending. It’s not just ‘the opposite element’ but the opposing ideals. Aang is by no means an earthbender, he’s free and adaptable. Earthbenders are stubborn and hard minded. Korra was short tempered and determined and outspoken. The opposite to airbenders
Iroh redirected lightning by imitating how waterbenders let their energy flow within the body Sozin knew at a young age how to mimic bending styles from other nations, including waterbending it could be that Sozin, like Iroh, can redirect energy. in his case not electricity, but heat
Sozin smokebending has been the cornerstone of "all bending from energy" theory for years. Even without theorizing, it's still a mind blower every time I watch it, and when I point it out to others.
Airbenders create currents, not air. Waterbenders create water currents. Earthbenders mold earth, not create it. Firebenders bend heat energy (from the sun), none of this secret energybender/smoke bullshit.
I like how at 15:03 the camera pans across zuko’s face when iroh tells him about his lineage. When he tells him about his father side his scar is visible but then when he tells him about his mother’s side the camera pans to the side of his face and the bars cover his scar showing that he has two sides.
For the prison scene with Zuko and Iroh, when Iroh is telling him Roku is his maternal great grandfather, the camera pans in a way where that bars cover half his face so we only see his scarred eye first, then by when it's revealed, it's switched to his healthy eye
I always assumed that the headpiece that Iroh gives Zuko belongs to Iroh, because he was the crown prince before the siege at Ba Sing Se went sideways. So in my mind it was the same gesture, but not the same artifacts. But who knows maybe I am wrong 🤷♂️.
You know what that actually makes so much sense adding that on to the fact that they showed roku's artifact get buried and probably destroyed so it makes a lot of sense that it would be Iroh's and not Roku's
dang that's a great point! I was thinking the White Lotus went and dug it up, but making a new one for future crown princes is just plain obvious in hindsight lol nice catch! I wouldn't be surprised if it was made right after Roku left. Sozin's dad was probably shook he gave it away and commissioned a new one immediately
@@aCavemanNamedJaR yesnt. i think since zuko is having an existential crysis about being related to roku, the avatar, it makes more sense story wise that that is roku his and not irohs. even though i thought the same. because iroh gives him the artifact of an avatar. therefore having wearing a scar and an artifact from both sides. resembling a picture of what his story made him. i guess he somehow found it. i mean, he managed to keep the last two dragons secretly alive.
Heatbending makes sense for fire-bending, though. We see Iroh heat his tea in Ba Sing Se and a pool of water to give himself a hot spring bath. Sozin just pushed the heat away instead of pushed it in.
holy freaking crap i just realized that in the first flashback to Sozin and Roku firebending together, Roku slips and Sozin catches him for a moment, before still letting him fall. THAT IS A PARALLEL/FORESHADOWING TO AT THE VOLCANO WHEN THE SAME THING HAPPENS WHEN SOZIN REFUSES TO HELP UP ROKU AND LEAVES HIM TO DIE
One small moment in this episode which actually hits me in the feels every time I watch it is when Roku tells Aang that Sozin "was my best friend" right after the vision of the two young characters sparring. Just the way Roku says it without a trace of bitterness tells you that despite everything that would later go down between them, including Sozin even being responsible for Roku's death, Roku is still able to look back at their early friendship with fondness. In some ways it even ties into the end of the episode about friendships lasting more than one lifetime, particularly knowing that Aang and Zuko, being the descendents of Roku and Sozin (albeit only spiritually in Aang's case), later become friends
It makes it even better when Toph ask "Do you really think friendships can last more that one lifetime?" considering that she becomes a friend with Kora.
Thinking about it but the different nations you see at his wedding would probably be his friends he made during his training so (forgot his name) angs master could have met the first fire lord
I feel like maybe the moment in The Awakening might have been some sort of vision brought on by Aang being close to death. That, or maybe Roku can show up for small stints, but they need the extra spiritual power for longer talks, like the one in the Winter Solstice or this one.
I like how Gyatso never told Aang that he was friends with Roku. in the moments of Aang learning he was the Avatar, it might have felt like Gyatso was keeping secrets from him, and that might have damaged their relationship. If I was Aang, I would have thought that he was only training me because of his connection with my past life, instead of any real care he might have had. Also, I like how there seems to be a pattern of Avatars and their close friends. Roku was friends with Gyatso, who trained Aang in his first element. Aang was friends (and more) with Katara who trained Korra in her first element. It's pretty likely that Bolin would train the next Avatar after Korra. It also implies that Kyoshi trained alongside someone who would become the royal firebending teacher who taught Roku and Sozin.
Still one of the best ATLA episodes. Something that I feel a lot of shows fail at is doing flashbacks. This flashback doesn’t just tell what happened with Roku and Sozin, it makes the characters actively involved in present day. Aang is being told this by Roku, and Zuko is going on an adventure to figure out what happened with Sozin. I like that a lot
Man, I LOVE your series. I adore this show, but sometimes, I feel like I'm annoying people if I keep bitching about how great it is. Your videos make it feel like I'm sharing this pure passion with hundreds of thousands of other people. It's great. Keep it up.
That's a sharp outfit, Chan. Careful. You could puncture the hull of an empire-class Fire Nation battleship, leaving thousands to drown at sea, because it's so sharp.
@@maximaldinotrap Oh come on. Season 2 was pretty bad (aside from the Avatar Wan stuff), but Seasons 1 and 3 are fucking amazing, especially 3. Season 4 is also really good until it gets pretty ridiculous with the mecha shit.
My interpretation was Sozin was controlling heat gradients and directing the heat away to cool the lava. The style looks like a hybrid of lightning and airbending. That actually feeds into your idea of him studying other fighting styles. Perhaps heat is what you get when you apply airbending style to fire ending.
Definitely one of my fav eps, the show does a spectacular job with the way they portray the characters and even humanizing the villains. I found Sozin to be very likeable too and the buildup to his betrayal really was impactful. Also, the red dragon seeing all those rocks and debris come down yet still curled around Avatar Roku to protect him and be with him at the end will never fail to make me tear up, so heartwarming and heartwrenching 😭😭
The fact that the visual story telling here is so subtle yet so obvious is amazing. The world building, the background, the exposition without straight up telling the audience is why this show is still popular.
Here's an interesting bit... 7:53 This looks like a continuity error, but it's actually spot on. Zuko grabbed the scroll all the way on the right to read first. Since the Fire Nation is based on Japanese culture, they would write right to left. So the scroll all the way on the right is actually the first part in the series of Sozin's last testament So the case on the floor in this shot is the first scroll Zuko picked up and just finished, the one is his hand is the second, and he has three left to go.
toph mentioning friendships passing over one lifetime hits hard when you realise she met the avatar again when she met korra and instantly recognised she was the avatar
Wasn't a fan of LOK but I loved how innocently Toph asks if friendships could really last more than lifetimes, then later becomes friends with the next Avatar
Every time I see Roku's dragon curl up around him I wonder why it didn't carry him away to safety lmfao. Fang was flying just fine, Roku was the one having trouble moving
@@jahnybravo2168 I mean considering how close he was to the volcano, perhaps Roku's dragon wouldn't be fast enough to grab Roku and fly away. But even if he could, I belive it was implied that the fumes already overcame Roku and he was basically already dead at that point and he woulnd't survive even if he got away
The sad part isent Roku Dying or as sad as it is Sozin leaving him to die Fang would have lived, chose to die by his friend. Its rare we die with compony, even if your friend show up to see you pass, its rare you pass together
@@jahnybravo2168 Roku was all but dead already. He was succumbing to the poisonous gases and ash he was inhaling and being blasted with. Fang was choosing to die with his friend rather than let him perish there alone after having just been abandoned. We know dragons are exceptionally intelligent and can live on as distinct entities in the spirit world after death so it's a safe bet Fang knew he would see the avatar on the other side.
I don’t think the lamp lighting the scroll is quite so bizarre - they’re firebenders, they wield fire pretty regularly, setting something up to be revealed by fire actually seems like a pretty crummy way of keeping it hidden
Plus, Zuko is known to be extremely volatile, Iroh was there for most of it. It's not difficult to assume that Zuko would, if he couldn't figure it out, burn the scroll and reveal the message.
It would probably be common within the fire nation for their culture, like a prank or trick or ancient secret passed down until it became more common (at least among firebenders which are very popular in the FN). When you point out the crumminess, I’d think Iroh would make it easy for Zukonto understand considering his inner struggles🤔
I think he was talking more so on the chance that Zuko threw it on the lamp so perfectly. It’s a piece of paper that’s unpredictable to throw somewhere specifically, it was all random odds.
I think it's more about keeping it secret to outsiders. The airnomads having wind-powered doors, earthnation and northern water tribe making door out of walls of earth/ice etc
I’ve checked the comments a bit but I don’t think anyone has noticed it yet. So the first moment we see Sozin on his dragon the dragon is red, but the moment he betrayed Roku his dragon was blue. This might just be an error but I do like it because it ties into Zuko’s dream with red being good and blue being bad.
Anyone else find it weird that Sozin's throne room leads directly to the outside? Like, it's not deep into the palace; it's literally the first room Roku walked into.
It's really cool that Toph is the one who asks if friendships really can last more than one lifetime and Aang takes her hand and says yes. Then in Korra when Toph is introduced she immediately calls Korra twinkletoes showing that their friendship has also lasted more than one lifetime. It's a nice touch.
I always looked at the "heat bending" Sozin does more as heat redirection. And I think this is part of what gave Iroh the idea for lightning redirect later on
And us humans only conduct electricity cuz we are mineral *water* Its safer to assume *Lightning* and controlling it, was only possible. By studying water bending, and we have it pointed out here Sozin knows all 4 styles Iroh, just decided to master more of what was possible Like Toph and Metal Its already possible, now how can you do it
I believe that in just the same as lighting bending, that maybe “heat bending” or “smoke bending” are more about energy release (yin yang). Maybe Sozin is simply pulling the heat energy from the volcano and redirecting it
13:17 I would have thought that this was more about foreshadowing that "a greater evil has arrived" Like, look at how dark the colour in those frames is.
ur analysis on iroh's and zuko's convo was amazing. i never noticed the camera work and how the bars were a literal a metaphor for zuko's mind at the time. this show really is amazing if for nothing at all, zuko's transformation from book one to book three
1:34 In avatar theres this recurring sentence that goes something like "when we reach our lowest point it's the greatest opportunity for change" and when Aang talked to Roku he kinda reached a low point, you know him "failing the world" and all.
Volcanos cover a huge range of power levels. The volcano in "The Fortune Teller" is like a thunderstorm, while the volcano here is like a hurricane. Yeah they're technically made of the same stuff and they're both dangerous, but they're not really comparable. I don't think it's fair to say that Aang shouldn't be amazed at Roku, or that he did anything close to what Roku does here.
Finally A logical Analyst XD Aang fought a Vii 5 at best Roku was taking on a Vii 8 super volcano, and showing it whats up He didnt "win" but prevented a super eruption They were feeling it on the main land 100+ miles away, the world was at risk fo so XD
And aang was a lot younger. Ruko was in his 70s or 80s. Avatars are still vulnerable to old age. He was battling something hard let at the disadvantage of being elderly.
@@cursedwithsetience4017 yes agree even if him beeing a fully realised avatar i noticed he coulnd keep the avatar state longer compare this to aang vs firelord ozai aang spends like 15 min on the avatar state
@@lucasscoz6090 While that might be the case anyway, it's explained that a fully realized avatar doesn't want to be in the avatar state for long, because they don't want to get killed and end the whole cycle. It's entirely conscientious to not do what Aang did.
A very neat detail is that you can tell Sozin is even physically stronger than Roku when they’re younger given his build compared to Roku, Sozin can keep Roku from falling over and the way Sozin easily pulls Roku up to his feet even surprising Roku at 4:08 Easy way to show, not tell but not a lot of media does it
“NO, How dare you, address your Firelord in such a manner. May I remind you that your loyalty is first and foremost to the Fire Nation. Anything less makes you a TRAITOR!” My favorite line of the whole series 🔥
@@tomkostolom6559 Well said mate, the tragic betrayal always crushed me. Imagine your best friend letting you die because he’s greedy and wants more power. It’s all too real which makes it even more sad
the scene where aang says : "its that girl you didnt even know you were alive" is actually a bit more fitting in the german dub. In german he roughly says: "the girl you were not worth a glance for", like "she never even looked at you", and thats actually more of what was happening.
@@TheDanielk4 they changed the voice actors a lot and it gets very bad in season 3 with all the old friends having completely different voices in the day of the black sun. But I really like it as well, even though they have some bad translations for no reason. Like when the professor in the desert asks aang from which airtemple he's coming from, they translate it and add "which of the two" for no reason, even though there are 4 temples in total, not 2. Or even worse, when Zhao says "moon spirit in mortal form", they translate it to "moon spirit in human form". They already could've just watched the next episode and see what kind of mortal form it is, that's pretty annoying.
@@Ray25689 yes but that doesn't change that the german dub is seriously amazing and added so many language and dubbing culture specific elements that nitpicking about some lines here and there and only talking about the mistakes in between all the good stuff is doing it a disservice it absolutely does NOT deserve. It's honestly sad that the moment someone praises the german dub for how great it is there will always be people who will immediately talk it down by looking for things to complain about.
@@Ray25689 I don't think the "which of the two" line is that bad tbh For someone that knows a lot about airbenders the professor probably knew the north and south were exclusively male while the eastern and western were female. So he simply asks Aang if he's from the north or south one. Since he obviously wouldn't be from the Western or Eastern
Can we just appreciate the fantastic performance of the voice actor that replaced Mako after he passed. Just doing a banger job through the remainder of the series with Iroh.
meanwhile the germans (me included) with their own dubbed version. not knowing what you are talking about. avatar is actually one of the fewer series / films / Anime / cartoons.. just stuff in general where i like the german dub more in every way. the voice of iroh is just better. i dont think you will understand what i mean since if you dont undestand the language it kind of never sounds fitting.
The new actor sounds noticably different, but not at all bad. Just moreso dry (like, literally dehydrated) and weathered. In fact, with the actor replacement from Books 2 and 3 correlating with Iroh having been imprisoned all that time, it's almost as if prison has taken an audible toll on him.
@@zero.Identity Respectfully I think Mako's Iroh voice is the best and true voice of Iroh given he sounds the most East Asian (because he was), which is analogous to what inspired the Fire Nation (east Asian empires like China and Imperial Japan).
@@triplek-dysongamingwithdan7771 well its the morst lore fitting then. but it i think when it comes to characteristics of the voice and how well it fits to the actual character, that the german dub is better.
I wonder why Toph said that line here... I don't know how the timeline matches up, but it's hard to imagine that they planned Toph's appearance in LOK at that point in time already.
Honestly, this episode is one of my favourites, and I just realized when toph asked if friendships can last multiple lifetimes she actually gets to hang out with korra later. Her friendship with aang gets to la st just like monk giasto’s and Roku
I just realizes what toph said in 16:40 come back in the legend of korra when she meets korra and immediately knew it was "aang" coming to see her again
I think the whole bit with Sozan performing a rough version of each type of bending is great foreshadowing for the fall of the Air benders. It shows his interest in fighting, but it could also be interpreted as knowing your enemy, which is probably what helped when the comet came. Yes there were soldiers and the comet, but the basic understanding of your adversary goes a long way in combat.
I think that during the solstice, Aang can actually experience Roku’s memories “first hand” Like their connection becomes so strong that they can almost merge into a single consciousness,. Like how Roku fought the fire sages for Aang on fire island
