This is totally me. I also think I have AvPD because I'm not close to anyone. People think I'm arrogant, but I'm really just shy/nervous. If I don't feel comfortable around someone, I'm incapable of letting my guard down, and I can't just snap out of it unfortunately.
I'm starting to wonder if over using traditional dbt skills and concepts can lead to overcontrol. I wonder why traditional dbt is even used with restrictive eating disorders and people who isolate when depressed or anxious.
I am currently taking a RODBT class here in Wisconsin, USA. I've attended 4 classes so far and I can see the potential for learning about myself. It's been difficult. It's like re-wiring my brain.
from 6:20 onwards is very essential information. : overcontrolling of emotions , no visible behavioural problem, actually getting REINFORCED by "society". this makes me wanna think about what other copings strategies are actually getting reinforced (!) as compared to others getting corrected by society ...
I met with a therapist who claimed to be able to use RO-DBT. He was overcontrolled. He could not lead me because he could not see any further than I could. I think that’s gonna be a big problem for this type of therapy… We need knowledge and the space to apply it. The blind can’t lead the blind.
I work in manufacturing and tight control over quality is definitely a plus. Turns out that I have more of an eye for quality than even my boss does! I often come across work that is out of tolerance, but they stick it through anyway. It really annoys me at times. I have pretty bad social anxiety and showing emotion is really difficult for me. I have essentially trained myself over much of the last 36yrs to hide my emotions. Not healthy. It has made my life deeply unsatisfying. As Carl Jung said, "The fool is the precursor to the saviour"
Same here. I just started working in quality a year ago and I have ability to find small errors and small out of tolerance issues. But this past year I had to learn the more flexibility about all the small stuff we let go and just give off to the customer anyways. I do hide my emotions a lot and find I am just unable to develop relationships with people at this workplace.
So annoying all my life to keep being told that I look angry or am so serious when I feel completely calm and am not even really thinking about anything. “You should smile more!” It’s like, why? Nothing’s happening to provoke a smile lol.
I just started working with a patient that is also finishing up with a RO-DBT group, and I'm trying to learn more about it. This video is very helpful. Thanks.
That was a funny comment at 10:54! I'm very OC so I would have scrapped the whole video and started from scratch but that's why I'm not a RU-vidr. I just bought the clinician's RO-DBT manual so I'll be receiving that within the next few days and it should help me gain some insight into how to be less controlled. I've been offered DBT by a few psychiatrists and even bought the traditional book but none of the training resonated with me because I already do those things! Something I just realized after having watched a compare and contrast video on under-controlled vs overcontrolled individuals is that when I've been on medications like antidepressants and antipsychotics in the past, they made me act more under-controlled. I would not plan my SH sessions and the surface area was much larger (multiple limbs), I would do strange things like get drunk and live stream it which I'd NEVER do off meds, etc. I was also more UC until maybe 18 or 19 when I turned inward and became way more OC.
excellent very helpful i don't have a therapist but i have found this very useful iand i refuse to take olazapine i prefer autrailan bush flower essences and animal essences
@@thePSYCHcollective thank you very much for that. I used this video to kickstart education group with my PHP group today. Was very helpful, and stimulated a lot of discovery and reflection with the members.
How do you make sure you not giving this treatment to autistic people, gaslighting them that they have a psychological problem when they just have different neurology? For an autistic this easily becomes another conversion therapy. What harms us (autistics) is all this framing of everything about us is broken. We have a 9x self deletion rate and there is a big potential for iatrogenic harm here
Does the middle of the bell curve merely represent where the bulk of the population happens to lie? Or does it intend to reflect where the healthiest balance between the two extremes is that people should work to get to? Is there even an objective framework for debating which behaviors are more or less "healthy"?
From what I've been reading and working on personally, the bell curve is not necessarily the perfect bell curve as depicted. Like with most things in life, the balance point need not be exactly centered. The key is avoiding the extremes and being curious enough to monitor where you are at present time. If you are able to remain curious, you may find you are over-controlled in certain situations while under-controlled in other circumstances. If you can engage in active self-inquiry you'll be able to evaluate if you need to make an adjustment towards one direction or the other.
I'm a giant chicken! Love being able to do silly things and have a job as a English language teacher that encourages it. Something that broke me into freedom of expression was non-idomatic improvisation. The act of questioning boundaries of music and actively experimenting with it. Why play the guitar like this? Why not play while standing on one leg or pretending that your on Saturn?
Another “funtamental attribution error” riddled model that presumes our humanity can be understood in two dimensions. It's not you, it's you AND the context you're in.
