Overpowered Attacks in Fighting Games (With Justin Wong) 

Had so much fun with this! Thanks for the invite

LK: "Good old Arc System Works, nothing beats that" JW: "Good old 90s Capcom, nothing beats that"

LK be like: “this move was op, ran the meta, and was constantly nerfed” And Justin just says “ok.” and proceeds to show some demonic shit from an old game

Learning there's a *more* busted version of storm in a Versus game is blowing my mind

Justin didn't mention that when Yun is in Genei all his moves have super priority. So you can't even trade with him, even his lights will beat any other normal.

The main thing that pushes Elphelt Shotgun to be annoying is that it does mad chip for no reason. It's basically proto guard crush, and she's already got a command grab to make you scared of blocking. It would at least encourage Elphelt players to go to the grab that leaves a gap instead of just chipping you out and forcing a response

One thing about Genei Jin that I don't think got mentioned. 3rd Strike has a priority system for how trades are determined so heavy normals almost beat medium and medium always beat light etc. Supers have the highest priority and Genei Jin makes it so that everyone of Yun's normals has super priority so you can't challenge him during it

Back on GGX Dust Attack was performed by pressing S+HS and they all had the same Dust that appears when you Super Jump. So when XX was made and they created its own button they used the same name.

Yessss, these collabs have been so good!! I’m really looking forward to the next entry, “Unprovoked Attacks in Fighting Games (With Jiyuna)”

That storm super jump is the funniest shit I've seen in one of these I think. So goofy

This series is extremely dope. though I don't know if this is up your alley or if you can find anyone who can help you out, i'd love to see some more "poverty" or "Kusoge" broken moves, Stuff like E's Laf where characters like Alcott have Super busted normals, or the best non-metered DP in any game ive played. Seeing justins inputs on moves everyone knows is broken like genijin and learning how and why was super duper interesting! keep up the good stuff.

For elphelt you forget to mention that the shotgun shot counts as a projectile but you can't blitz it. That max range should have been the metric for blitzing all projectile distances but you can't.

I love how LK is really trying to vary the content and have dope collabs

more like WK

Old school players are always my favorite ppl to listen to. Forever heroes imo

Awesome video you two! Was very enjoyable!

15:23 that mash from justin though hahaha

When LK said "shotgun stance", Elphelt that!🥺

Dude, do this with everyone who’s willing hahaha, I love these! Plus, lord knows there’s no shortage of BULLSHIT to cover!

Still waiting for Baiken's Baku to show its head on the series.

ooh second Impact and Good ol Yun Genei Jin

remember you want to win? pick the top tier

Shadow Labrys playin Heritage for the Future frfr

I dont really play fighting games but i like content about it, especially jmcrofts ( that's where i discovered your channel from! (: ) but i saw that elphelt was added into strive and ive never seen her in xrd! She seems to be pretty different in terms of personallity and appearance. Very cool! Also, really like your vids, going to subscribe :)

The funniest shit is that, even if Elphelt only had the shotgun and had zero other moves, she would STILL be the best character in the game

I look forward to these thumbnails every time

This was cool

can't believe you had one of the co creators (with daigo) of eSports on here

These videos are sooooo mf good

Damn I didn't know Yipes had it like that

THE BEST RU-vid Fighting game channel. You can't go wrong with Justin Wong.

i loved this

Justin really is doing the teehee pose in the thumbnail.

Your channel should be called Let's go Justin!

knowing JWong Chun SA2 is gonna get talked about

God i can't remember what game the song playing at 13:41 is from. I know what it is BUT I CANT REMEMBER.

Im surprised he didn't show the entire moves kit of chaos on strive

When a command normal is a single button option select

Adding "game defining" to my FG buzzwords list. I now know the real definition

Ok I know platform fighters are different, but Meta-Knight’s Mach Tornado in Smash Brawl is actually insane. It’s a recovery, it’s a good movement option, it’s huge, it’s fast, it does good damage, and it’s basically unpunishable.

I know this is an older vid so I probably want get a response, but that hoodie is dope af? Linkage?

Collabs with Wong are the best.

waiting for king

Flying characters are almost always near or top tier. Painwheel and Merkava are the main exceptions to come to mind

Shadow Labrys IS my waifu 😆 Man, I miss watching Banana Ken play her. His lab combos were inspirational.

I wonder if Justin was talking about pyrolee’s yun? 26:03

I still say that when I think of an "install" super I don't think of dragon install I think of genei jin.

youy dont know why the move that throws dust up at people crouching is called dust?

Its funny to me that Justin says SF3 second impact Akuma is most busted when if SF Movie the game he is a walking braindead touch of death combo lol

nice

Obligatory smash mention, Brawl Meta Knight's tornado literally shut down some matchups, you needed a massive disjoint to hit him without him hitting you, it was a recovery, neutral tool, advantage, edge guarding, literally anything you could want. There is a clip of a doubles match where all 4 players were using meta knight and all tornado at the same time. It's legendary Bayonetta's witch time in smash 4 is similarly broken, it's a counter that will basically always lead to an instant kill.

Off topic but LordKnight got nice ass eyelashes. Like he has natural pharaoh eyeliner on.

15:04 BY FAR

I must now boot marvel 2 and try to unfly combo.

banger

Honestly, Elphelt needs to come back for Strive. I don't know if that works with the lore, but it'd be so easy to fix her stance stuff and I think it'd just be genuinely nice to have another Stance character that's not Leo doing weird crazy BS. Besides, it feels like she kind-of deserves a chance to redeem herself by being actually fair, right? And Strive is nothing if not balanced feeling (for the most part). I'm imagining you get stance move, you have the light hits and the gun, but maybe she has an ammo counter like Happy Chaos that you need to leave stance to reload. So you can still do big gun damage, but your pressure is way more limited and each missed shot is making you need to re-stock resources you could have saved to use for damage. Keep the grab and throw in the grenade stuff for basic Oki setups and tricky plays, and that honestly feels like a pretty solid retooling of the character. Maybe take away the sniper rifle and instead she can knock the actual grenade around or manually detonate it with the Shotgun for bonus damage and a guard crush? That honestly feels like it'd be a pretty fitting logical way to do things that keeps her solid while still fixing the main problem of "Shotgun can keep going forever until command grab hits."

Ain’t no way doom footdive didn’t make it in

I'm shock you didn't add Morrigan mvc3. Man she's broken

I'll click on anything with Elphelt

He always says he's gunna one up them then never actually does

man justin didn't really talk about how busted genejin having super priority is, all yun's normals get super priority and beat other normals in trades, combined with fastest normal in the game = you don't get to hit any fucking buttons and he has a command throw he can combo off of lmao.

wait what game is that goddess summon from

I'm just gonna ask this why is his version of Xrd in Japanese

How old is lord knight?

6:00 If any human ever in existence ever said something in the lines of "she's so cute they shouldn't hate on her she's allowed to be broken" then I don't know if they should go outside or just give up man.

At 19:38 What in the heck game is that?! Someone tell me, please. I have to know! :D

To balance Elphelt's stance, maybe she needed to have limited ammo for her shotgun. Kinda like Happy Chaos.

I love Broken moves

The most overall powerful move in any fighting game? SPAMMING AND MORE SPAMMING OF FIREBALLS

SENTINAL HAD NEUTRAL IN THE AIR!!!... 🤤 😭💙

Tekken 1 king has left the chat

Im legit mad he acting like tony stark cant 1 touch your entire team from anywhere on the screen with unfly.

i didnt know chris rock has a gaming channel

Where totsugeki

Justin is just opening his bible of knowledge to give us the most foul sh*t imaginable

Oldheads and new kidz all huddle up to watch more oldheads talk about classic fighting games... Ah... This is what Jezuz died for. ❤

Someone should do a sf3:3s hack where everyone has Genei Jin, that would be wild to watch.

Getting a little more salt than pepper there LK

LK???? Y bro look like he aged like Chris rock n em? Or maybe this jus his style? Ion blame em if it is lol I had white hair when I was 18

Let’s make a patch slash mode. that takes multiple characters from a single franchise out of the biggest e10 to ten rated cross over franchise. Go make your fan mode that takes out all of the fe characters except the one female that’s the guys daughters from the future. She had to stay our the third wave female feminist will threaten us with harm. O chrom I don’t I don’t get how these people think.

Block from smash bros. Shits dumb broken and it doesn't even do damage

Yun in 3S is straight BS, but you know who doesn't get to complain? Someone who mains Chun

For broken moves, I always think of Yosuke's j2.b/j.ab in Vanilla and 1.1 respectively. Not for the move itself, but because it enabled glide.

I would love to see someone like @Maximilian_Dood also doing this! Love the guy

I'm surprised Sean's 2nd impact tornado kick didn't make it. That move is stupid LoL

Fun fact I think dust was called launcher in the original GG. When they changed it to dust the follow up was renamed to homing jump over chase jump so maybe it's a sonic reference

Strider mvc 1 orbs, black heart air special mvsf does lots on block and hit, kid goku tenkaichi 3 false courage, kid buu had those flurry of punches that went on forever builds meter and drain yours dodging., slim buus ball special was pretty hard to punish as well. Zangief launcher in xvsf for the easiest infinte just two buttons, Juggernaut xvsf another easy inf throw in the corner to constant forward heavy punch, wolverine speedy mode in mvsf if you activate it when other character about to come in you can cross them up and land easy 1 hit heavy punch 100% reset, mvsf omega strike covers long distance can retract to not get punished, powerstone falcon and ayane tracking specials you need practice dodging those

Whats the music at 11:24 while JW talks about Storm?

Yo LK leave slabs alone

Happy chaos sipping wine(he’s using a silly straw)

We need like Mr.MKL or Woolie for one of these but more for indie, obscure, or kusoge fighting games.

Honestly, I think chun li’s II special in third strike is pretty broken, no matter what you do it will always do damage, and a lot of it, even chip damage has enough to kill, I mean, unless you parry or something, but I doubt anyone can parry the entire attack string, right Justin?

Throwing a guess out there. The slow fall mechanic is acting as an animation cancel that happens immediately after the first frame of the fierce. Magneto doesn’t have slow fall so it doesn’t trigger as an animation cancel.

Great synergy between you guys. I’d love more content with both of you. Subbing now!

JWong knows more about games I've never heard of than I know about my main games lmao what a legend

I had no idea how technical Sentinal was in Marvel 2 before this

Combos were originally bugs in the programing.

Tonya MKX prenerf when she was an air bomber

6:39 The move is called Dust because it is like most characters an Homage to Rock music culture, and this particular is a reference to Queen's song "another one bites the DUST".

Also for Yun all of his normals and specials get Super priority so its almost impossible to poke him out of stuff to get him off you