Very Unfair Attacks in Fighting Games (with Sajam) 

Coming up with only 5 moves from these games was actually so hard. Thanks for having me on, and I hope everybody enjoyed the ridiculousness of these old games we loved.

Sajam talking about Maya’s dagger toss was straight “But wait, there’s more!” energy

IJ1 was definitely one of the games of all time

One of the most unfair attacks in fighting games is when you all go for hotpot after a tournament, and you accidentally burn your mouth because your first bite was too _temperature_ hot, and then everyone clowns on you and says that you can’t handle spicy food. It’s not fair!! They don’t understand what happened!!!

Sajam is so good at talking about fighting games he doesnt even need to move his mouth

Shout outs to the folks that learned to play fighting games with these games. Y'all learned to safe jump safe launching DPs in the snow, uphill both ways.

Sajam: pulls from multiple games by developers around the world LK: "Good ol' ArcSys, nothing beats that!" ArcSys was fucking nefarious back in the day, I stg

how can sajam stay with the same face without blinking for so much time, this guy is a legend

Dormammu's Rose Garden, on launch, would still be active on the ground even after Dormammu got hit with a CINEMATIC LVL3! you would have to block the garden after the cutscene was over, and Dormammu had time to wake up and mix you up! don't know how people thought that was okay

Sajam/LK is such a good combo for this kind of video, since you both kinda cover the opposite ends of the fighting game spectrum. Now we just need a smash player and the trifecta is complete.

16:32 - *"Mitsuru has done physical things to my body"* yo same tho

fun fact related to that arakune air low thing: Peacock in Skullgirls had the same thing as her jump MK in early builds. It tracked better, too. imagine dealing with a mid air low whilst also dealing with Peacock zoning and dodging assists, knowing any stray conversion loses you 30-50% at best, and tod at worst if theyve got the sauce

I'm sorry, such a thing as an aerial low exists?! Yeah I think LK's perspective of fighting game moves that break conventions is pretty spot on when you're talking about broken moves. At least we're in an era where this stuff can get patched out...to a degree, apparently. I can't believe Trident Rush is that good in BOTH games...

Mitsuru doing active damage to LK in real life is the universe trying to punish an unwholesome action

Y'all already know where to find lord Sajam but twitter.com/Sajam Twitch.tv/Sajam RU-vid.com/@supermansajam

Honestly thought this would be called attacks people STRONGLY dislike

There was that one person who competed in a P4A tournament with a two button stick with Mitsuru.

I wanna give a shoutout to Rev1 1.0 Johnny Mist Finer. Not only did it have the unblockable loops that he could do, and did a ton of damage, helped him convert etc etc (all of which still exist in the game), but it also gave him FIVE TIMES the meter on hit that it does now, funding every part of his gameplan 5 times better, including the unblockable loops. It was fuckin insane, and still is

That knowing "Are you okay?" from Sajam at the end. When you've been through all the "things went wrong on stream."

Very impressive that Sajam managed to keep a straight face and stay very still throughout this video

For me, I think one of the most broken moves I've ever seen was release MKX Quan Chi Trance. For those who are not aware, the Trance was a mid that would keep the opponent standing, they walk slowly towards you for like one second and cannot do anything. It's basically intended to be a combo extender so you would do basic string > trance > basic string > knockdown for like 30-35%. The problem is one of his variations called Summoner calls in a Bat. The bat can be controlled once by Quan Chi to fly and hit the opponent as a mid, a projectile, or a low. Now for the broken part. During early MKX, the trance was so long lasting, Quan Chi could summon the bat, AND setup a hard to blockable every time. So, every time you get hit, you get hit by trance, Quan Chi summons the bat, he sends the bat as a low while he overheads you which could hit low first or overhead first and no matter which hits, he will immediately trance you again and summon another bat over and over until you get lucky and block it.

Damn finally a collab with Diaphone

As sajam was explaining superman all I could think was: "So he's a dbfz character" forward advancing strings that's cancellable into plus frames, or at least safe, but if that advancing string hits 😨

CT was my first fighting game I owned for myself and actually tried to learn legitimately, and I don't think I'll ever recover from Arakune's jumping low. 11 year old me played "the floor is lava" with funny fast cat lady because I didn't want to deal with it. Nu and Carl taught me patience and how to take a loss, but Arakune taught me the fear of god

Before superman, it was F3 Johnny Cage, same kind of situations almost, confirming 8frame advancing mid into full combo ending in nutpunch standing reset right back into the pressure.

Yoooo a 45 min collab with Sajam? You’re spoiling us 😌 Also, I love hearing people complain about characters/moves (especially people who usually don’t complain) so I’d love to see this series keep going

I forgot about rose garden since it got nerfed so hard it barely gets used. Not to mention, that move is a lot more insane than I remembered. Marvel vs Capcom Infinite was lucky to get good patches on the truly broken stuff before support died. Without that, the competitive scene probably would not have lasted a year.

LK talking to himself about fighting games with the talking png of sajam inside his head

Two of the best fighting game content creators talking about some of the most fucked up moves in fighting games. Ya love to see it.

Worth noting that Dorm’s rose garden got HUGELY nerfed. He has noticibly longer recovery and the duration is a bit over half of what it was on vanilla. It’s still a great move cause even if he didn’t have time to run mix, it’s a tag fighter so it’s just lockdown for your other guy. Dorm’s pretty solidly top 5 still. But this is honestly missing 2 major aspects of why it was broken. First off Vanilla reality stone basically covered you and meant you could set this up for free. But second, the big big one, it now goes away if dorm is hit. I can’t believe this wasn’t mentioned. Even if you escaped you still had to hold it, even if Dorm just set down the controller and you had a perfect angle on your jump, the majority of characters could not punish without just getting hit by carpet and giving Dorm a free combo. You’d straight up see people using it like an armor’d anti air, and taking the hit as you cast to bait them in.

Sajam seems nervous, he doesn't move his face the entire video. Relax!

It's weird listening to Sajam talk without seeing him fix his hair every second.

This series is so much fun, please make some more of these, keep up the good work LK!

I thought it was a Sajam vid on his own channel when I initially saw the thumbnail ngl LMAO

Idk how this was recorded, but Sajam is mixed WAY lower than LK and I have to keep adjusting my volume so I can hear hear him, then LK blows out my speakers

I definitely need to binge this series! This was amazing!

Hidden Missiles needs to be in this series if it isn't already. That move does everything. EVERYTHING. Also, Azwel's low-axe grab. I don't know the input (2A+B I think?), but Azwel as a whole definitely can get some entries on this list. Which makes sense considering he's the successor to Algol. Speaking of Algol, dude has multiple GOOD projectiles in freaking Soul Calibur of all games. SC4 Algol was a nightmare. And while I'm still on the SC train, SC4 Hilde, just the entire character in general for being able to ring out basically anyone from basically anywhere on basically every map. And finally, the one that annoyed me the most playing casually, SC6 Seong-Mina's insane lightning poke. Absolutely degenerate, insanely braindead, absolutely obliterates some matchups all on its own.

LK for sure gave us some good and strong moves in FG, but Sajam obviously is showing us the moves that divide nations.

I love the energy of sajam's face being a disappointed stare while you're a video

I really enjoy these videos. Great stuff as always LK

Really cool to see fgc creators collaborating more

I wonder if platform fighter moves will show up in this series. Smash 4 Witch Time and Limit Charge, or something from Brawl Meta Knight's kit come to mind. And Shine, of course.

oh, I love your music choices in this video!

Goat stuff. Great series & killer collab nice job boys

great video, thanks Mr K.

i like how long this video is, i love hearing you guys just talk about this stuff lol

this was a great vid. top tier fg content!

Been looking forward to this vid since I heard Sajam mention it!

a video so good im kicking 🥾😫 myself for missing other collab videos

Hell yeah, loved this collab!

trident rush was hilarious fr tho this was a cool video its like, fighting game history? its so interesting to look back on

I am loving the retrospectives on despicable fighting game moves.

Geeezzz Maya was plain broken lol

Ive been loving the collab content from the FGC creators recently. We all eatin good this week lol

Love Sajam. Great video Lk!

This is such a banger video concept you fuckin struck gold. I gotta see lord kizzie next

Yo props on the Wii shop channel in the background... Certified bop before they were bops

I've watched a few of these, and I'm actually surprised I never saw CS Litchi DP or CS2 Hotinjin from Hazama quite yet. Maybe they weren't as broken as I remember, but I did figure I'd hear about one of those from you, Lord Knight. Take your Sub, LK. I've been thoroughly esports entertained by your vids this past week.

20:00 UI goku 5L wasn't just easy to use though, it was very flexible! You could beat out most jump ins, normals, sometimes even vanishes! The massive hitbox, good active frames for fast startup, and his kit's overall ease of converting into a combo off it... that thing was horrifying.

Aerial lows are fun. I play Sakura in Fate/UC and her 214C is a low regardless of if she uses it on the ground or in the air. (It's also negative edge)

I would also add: Tekken 1 King's DF1. This move is a 14 frame active mid that is +7 on hit(the quickest move you have in this game is 8 frame) and on block guess the frames... It's +93. Yup. really. You literally have forever to do whatever you want after getting this move blocked. Combos easily do 70% with like 3 hits, and with some practice, you can death combo them easily. This was an old game, but this move was... *phew* something else.

Sajam has been talking more Injustice and I think he's having PTSD.

honorable mention : akuma & eliza metered uppercuts. Will duck under MIDS, comes out insanely fast, and can be used from a standard down jab . Simply amazing .

i like these types of videos

What about Lab Coat's 1 bar, damn near unreactable, grab that reduces your damage output by 20%? And pre "nerfed" where it was frame one invincible, unpunishable, comboed, hit otg, hit in block stun, and pulled you out the corner by a pixel to super into 21's level 3 50/50?

Sajam's in game name for KI being Bonk Chonkler gives me life

LK + Sajam make a really good team for videos, hopefully they collaborate more

You talking about Michiru 5a Makes me think of Them's Fightin' Herds Season 1 Oleander 5A, where like... in TFH, it's universal, EVERYBODY'S 5A is frame 5, and Oleander's was completely disjointed and huge because it'd smack you with the book. you basically couldn't challenge Oleander at round start because she could reach you with 5A and you had to respect it. she could stagger it for looping pressure or it made for an excellent wakeup option because attempting to meaty her could result in her doing her 22D teleport and waking up invincible, but 5A was faster than most things characters could do after seeing her wake up normally. 5A was also gigantic enough to cover people's tech roll on wake-up and could challenge SO many buttons because of the disjoint.

looking at this video after the creation of the Sajam Face PFP Multiverse is incredibly funny

My two favorite fgc creators lets goooooo

Damn u got the sajam thumbnail and evrything

kim ex hangetsuzan in kof 13 needs its own video, low invoncible move that flies across the screen, anti airs, is plus on block, is a combo starter, air version is fully invincible lmao

Two of my most important content creators.

I cant believe you actually tricked me into thinking this was from sajam's channel with the thumbnail lmao

how was sajam able to stay completely still like that the whole time

This vid is so raw

Thank you for this blessing, my Lord. Praise be.

Ivan Ooze from Mighty Morphin' Power Range The fighting edition could pretty much take every spot in this whole video. He's a playable hidden boss character akin to Akuma in SFII Turbo but broken beyond measure. Once you've seen what he can do, every other fighting game character (Jo jo bird, Brawl Meta Knight, Launch Maya, etc.) all looks tame in comparison. I hope you or Sajam look him up one day.

Sajam got 5th at Combo Breaker 2015 for KI, I had no idea

this vid was great and weird at the same time. Sajams whole thing in insisting every character has answer to every situation in every game no matter what. And then to see him finally admit there ARE broken characters in fighting games is wild

"This is his second appearance on the show though." Yes. Arakune is, in fact, that fucking bullshit.

at least kune's jD make sense as an aerial low, it's dirty but kinda makes sense. And arc sys isnt foreign to animations not matching what's happening, notably Faust's 2K looking like a jank overhead and A LOT of Dust (before xrd added the red glow too)

Sajam breaking down superman f+2 sounds like the most well thought out salt mine response. Nah, but for real, that shit was busted

sagat's crouching fierce didn't get a mention? damn

man, smash melee spacies shine (specially fox) would easily make it into one of these videos lol fastest move in the game, comes out frame 1 with full body invincibility, does 6% damage and can knock down, fixed knockback, jump cancelable both in the ground and air, comboes into itself, comboes into ground moves, comboes into air moves, shield pressure, anti projectile (reflects projectiles and switches ownership), gimp tool, edgeguarding, movement, allows for turning around in the air, you can "dodge" many moves with its invincibility, good wake up option, good out of shield option, it slows your momentum down when used while falling so you can stall in the air with it, you can break shields only with it, you get the point.... i think i could continue naming op stuff about it too lol

Injustice one trident rush a lot of people fell out lol. So you could punish on hit assuming he burns a meter

Litchi's Matembo was legit versatile (we wanted to learn her SOOOOO BAD back in the day, but skill issues.......so we learned Bang and Ragna instead).

Breaking the A button is what happened to me playing Dante in umvc3 (Medium button)

I'm honestly surprised you didn't go for izamami ribcage or elphelt pineberry tbh. Or any sign elphelt moves LOL

i heard the word Aquaman and just went ''uh oh''

LK during Sajam's explanations looked like, "This dude loves fighting games way more than me. I didn't even think it was possible."

As someone who hasn't played that much of injustice, hearing sajam talk about superman was like, "Sounds fitting... He is superman after all."

Sabretooth's aerial throw in X:Men Next Dimension. It's bugged. There's a way to make it teleport you to your opponent, and infinite combo it. Grab, maul, throw your opponent away, jump backwards, repeat.

If we’re talking mechanics not moves, V-ism from alpha 3 comes to mind.

Ok, 2 things I wish to say and to a degree, vent about. 1. Mortal kombat 9 Johnny Cage forward three should have been in this, free chip damage, and full combo is plus on block. But most of all, Every single time he used it, the opponent had to deal with random frame data, Johnny could be either neutral or plus on block, with no way to know, you have to guess every time he uses it. In short, it’s a combo starter and a frame trap in a single package. 2. I wish to give an honorable mention for injustice 1, just because it’s less iconic than Superman’s combo. Doomsday’s earth shake. This move is the most annoying move ever, in any game to deal with (not the most broken, but still). It is a safe on block overhead + low, meaning that every time he used it, you had to block high then low, if you don’t he knocked you down. And if he did knock you down he could just use it again and you just are forced to block a 50/50, he either uses it normally and you get overhead + low, or he delays it and you just get the low. He also had setups for this annoying situation and a counter in case you wanted to use a wake up to stop him. Thank you for reading, and have a great day

lordknight seems like such a sweet cool dude

Enjoying this series so far, trying to think of some truly unfair moves from games I played. Plenty in marvel 3, but I thought I’d bring up MKX. There are definitely more broken moves, but from just the character I played, Kung Lao meter hat orbit. This move was plus, Let him combo, and on whiff was Vergil’s spiral swords. It was made up by the character having no mix, but he would just permanently keep people in block stun until he decides to throw. He also had other plus on block moves, to build around this move

For Smash, my picks would be: Melee: Puff's Back Air. Brawl: Diddy's Bananas. Multiversus: Iron Giant bolts

LK's streak of amazing team-ups continues

There's 3 for me. Oro's SA2 in 3rd strike, Ukyo's Swallow Swipe special move in Samsho 2 and Super 8's j. 2H from Cyberbots. Oro's SA2 is a significantly better version of his orb V Skill in SFV. As it gives him 3 short bars that he can use for supers or ex moves. The move operates in a similar manner except for the fact that the super will always register as a hit from the side it was created on. So if you comboed into super and managed to hit a crossup or do an attack on the other side it would create an unblockable. Which means Oro can combo you again which can lead to another unblockable setup. An Oro player can even pull this off with his EX fireball if he sets it up correctly in order to save half a bar of meter. Whoever said Samurai Shodown is all footsie is a liar. Ukyo is so cheap in Samsho 2 that it's not even funny. His Swallow Swipe is a special made to be used in the air but doing a Fei long "chicken wing" input let's it be done immediately off the ground as an instant overhead. So a popular strategy is to buffer this special after a couple low kicks on block and go straight into it and it's extremely hard to react to. The real kicker though is that it also shoots out a projectile in Samsho 2. So he can just throw it out in neutral to zone as well. Cyberbots is a mecha fighting game made by Capcom that is pretty underrated and is the game the character Jin in the mvc series is from. Super 8 is a mini boss and has a bunch of strong moves. However, it's j. 2H is by far the most absurd. It can be used as an instant overhead and is active the entire duration of the jump hitting multiple times. In fact the move on block can be made unblockable if your cross over while the opponent is blocking previous hits from the move and the move itself let's Super 8 combo into it's highly damaging bnb which btw is also Super 8's main blockstring that has absurd pushback on block. Couple this with the fact that Super 8 has far more boost uses than any other mech that let's it stay in the air forever if it wants to and has ground/air versions of "Hidden Missile" you can easily find opportunities to abuse this.