If you wanted to test how the tools work with an essentially unlimited battery capacity, why not pick up a 16,000mah (16Ah) 5S/6S hobby grade RC battery, and use a 3d printed adapter to adapt an AS150 (150A continuous current rated) to the tool. One of those should be pretty easy to adapt to any tool that any of the adapters work for, and you’d have a battery that could supply literally thousands of watts of power without breaking a sweat. This would also let you hook up a current measuring device so you could see how many watts an impact pulls from the battery, or even see how efficient things like drills and die grinders are by comparing the watts in vs the watts out. I think that would be extremely interesting. As a bonus, those hobby lipo packs (which is the same stuff all the tool manufacturers are using for their stacked pouch cell batteries, as far as I can tell) cost $200-$300 each, so it’s not really more expensive than the tool manufacturer ones, except the hobby grade ones would almost certainly pack more of a punch per dollar spent.
Would work great but a 240 volt AC to 24 volt DC converter could do 3500watt at 145 amp and do it indefinitely can be set from 22volt up to 28volt for 1200$ us not cheap but not really expensive No charge time and will deliver constant voltage forever Battery don't last and RC battery are notorious to swell when pushed hard
@@legros731 sure, but the battery setup I mentioned would be ~$250, and while hobby batteries can swell when being pushed hard, a 16,000mah pack having even 150A or so being pulled for 30+ seconds isn't really pushing that pack hard. Most of those packs are rated around 15C - which works out to a 240A continuous discharge rating. I've worked with those big packs a fair bit on heavy lift drones and they really don't puff all that often. That being said, I don't disagree that a power supply would probably be a superior solution for testing purposes. I just kind of want to build a battery setup like I described for my own purposes so I thought I'd suggest it.
@@KaminKevCrew I said it would work great but if you want repeatability for testing purposes ( the goal of this channel) being cost affordable is of no concern here A battery is not the best solution in this particular case but to actually use the tool to work with , your solution make way more sense and would beat pretty anything commercially available
@@legros731 a big advantage of using a hobby pouch cell is you can use 100C rated packs so instead of 150A you get 1500A out of a 15AH setup which is basically unobtainable on a normal power supply unless you want to just use a massive welder as a psu. and for connectors you can just start using dins welder connectors
I am proud to say I found this channel within its first few videos. Man its been an absolute pleasure watching this channel evolve and inovate in ways I never thought possible and consistently produce some of the best content on this platform. Keep up the amazing work TTC and Congrats on 300k.
I still remember stumbling upon your channel long ago. Remember when you started using those live moving graphs. So many good memories. I always knew this channel would take off but it’s so good to see you being rewarded for all you do. Congrats on 300k subscribers and as always, I’m very thankful that you allowed me to be a moderator for the channel.
It would be cool to see a power supply feeding the equipment so we know what the absolute max potential the unit can support. Would also give a % rating to “corded potential” with battery comparisons too.
@@TorqueTestChannel at least with regular wall socket 120v/15a. You'd need to probably find a DC power supply that could deliver I'd guess 200+ amps at 20v, so 4000ish watts, so ~20 amp 240v input.
Cordless has already gone beyond 2kw (input), which is about all you'll get out of a typical 120v 20A circuit. It WOULD be cool to see the input watt numbers as well as the dyno numbers to check overall mechanical efficiency, though.
Something common I see with Milwaukee is - they may not rush to release tools, but when they do it is well thought, designed, tested and performing tool (most of the times).
@eliadbu TTI uses ridgid as its guinea pig for testing. Ridgids octane high torque is a beast! I've had good luck with milwaukee. I like that my mac dealer carries them just in case of warranty
Hell yeah! Nice shout-out to 3DPrintedAdapters!!! Jeffery custom made me some Hitachi/Metabo HPT to Worx adapters, so that I could use my 8Ah Metabo batteries on a HydroShot Ultra.
you guys are the reason I was able to convince a co-worker that the torque claims on the package weren't correct, and stop him from under torquing a guide rod nut by over 500 ft-lbs. Spec was 1350 ft-lbs, and he wanted to use a regular 1/2" high torque on it. I've subscribed since before then, but it's been worth it.
You could rewire the dead IR impact to use an off the shelf ESC. That way you could have way more rpm,, not to mention it would be cheaper as well. They have bldc motors, so In theory... you could try out the limits of every tools hammer assemblies pretty easily. You would even have the ability to check the tools output at set power input (eg.: 100W test Milwaukee vs Makita). Strangely i really enjoy watching your channel after long day. Keep up the good work and congrats on the 300K subs.
I have no practical need for any of this, since even my Ridgid R86211B will take off any nut I would realistically ever encounter, but I'm addicted to yet ridiculousness of all these torque tests. I think TTC's shenanigans fills the hole in my heart that formed after Mythbusters left the air...
They do, I have m18 hammer drill. One time that I pushed it hard when drilling several long bores in concrete using holesaw, either the tool or the battery entered to thermal protection for several minutes. Better the tool take a break than it biting the dust.
Congrats on 300K guys! Awesome! I want to let you guys know that I build M18 packs with Lipo packs from time to time and have one that is 5ah 5S LIPO and if you want we can parallel 2 and get our very own 10ah power stack. It won't be pretty but hey this ain't no beauty pageant 😂. If you guys wanted I would even send you one I have as a make shift M18 10ah. It uses the original BMS board and connector plate from an original M18 pack so it should be 99% safe... Excellent content, I love the TTC channel. Phillip TTS
TTC is the greatest gift to the internet. Awesome content! I think it’s only fair to see these batteries on all the other tool manufacturers. I bet the budget tools will surprise us if given the power boost
Now we just need a Gen 2 M12 FUEL Stubby that is geared toward the new XC5.0 High Output and CP2.5 High Output packs. Also would like to see a triple light ring similar to the Gen 3 impact driver!
I just subscribed yesterday. You have some of the absolute best information and testing I have seen regarding these products. I am very interested to see where this channel will go. I have 2 suggestions of things I would love to see, firstly I would really like a good better best line up for common tools such as pneumatic torque wrenches and such to show which has the best value at each price point. Additionally, it would really intrigue me to see you test the mueller kuepes air tools. They only have 2, but I have seen both be used by several different heavy deisel mechanics. Thank you very much for all the quality content.
Hey thank you for subscribing and bringing a positive atmosphere to the community. Always share your ideas here and don’t forget to spread the word about the channel. Have a great day and welcome to the community.
Would be cool to test sds drills. There is not a single person doing that. If one wants to buy a sds+ drill there is no chance to find a one proper review or test. Only ppl. unboxing it and drilling two holes - useless. Also there is a railway specific ultra beast impact driver - Robel ROMPACT E³. I've seen it in reality and you don't want to mess with it :D
I got hooked on this channel due to me constantly wanting an impact wrench but can't make up my mind. Now I got Dewalt sticking to Dewalt but curious to see how other brands stack up. UGGA DUGGA!
Yes! I really like their 1/2" impact wrench. It has the ring light around the anvil, and the motor is set at an angle to the handle, making it easier to reach into places. I wish Milwaukee would have gone that route with their newest model
I e been here since your first days and love it. Congrats on 300k. Milwaukee knew they needed to up the beans this is why I love the competition bringing it.
Funny you mention that, I have a matco 16v battery that I converted to lipo, with a modified M12 right angle impact to accept it, I kept all the balance charging and it still charges with the matco charger, I haven't had time to test it alot but I can tell you it definitely rpms higher, it sounds like a jet engine 😂 0:47
I wish Milwaukee would have set the motor at an angle to the handle like IR has on their 1/2", or even how the M12 stubby is. Makes it so much easier to reach into places. It would have made the decision to upgrade from the 2767 easier, but for now, I'll stick with what I have
What a sad life it lived. "Oh, fresh batteries! I'm alive! What....what's those new batteries. I don't recognize those... " *ELECTRIC CHAIR* It shall rise again
I saw one of these gen 3's being demo'd at some kind of event vs a blacked out DeWalt. So obviously I had to check if you guys had caught a wiff of this! I love seeing you guys messing with the battery adapters! I've been doing this for a while now, however my usage comes from having a mix of both Ryobi and Milwaukee in my work van (3 Ryobi tools total vs 10+ Milwaukee) and I had zero interest in actually running multiple batteries. So a $30 adapter later and I've got nothing my Milwaukee batteries in my van!
I'm feeling confident Mw pouch cell batteries will also be more expensive; for the same tech, capacity, and form factor as the rest that exist in tools.. But even more expensive lol ;/ DIY or experienced ones making custom solutions will be ever more appreciated though
I having a real hard time deciding between Milwaukee makita and dewalt. I like how many tool categories Milwaukee has and the fact that their tools seem to constantly improve with battery upgrades. I like makitas handling characteristics. And dewalt is coming out with bangers
Chasing torque and speed specs is a fools errand. I go for comfort. Makitas tools are refined and work very very well, and are comfortable and less vibrating than Red or Yellow.
Also, if you go with a brand, you can always buy another brands tools and run them off adapter that fit your batteries. I have mostly Makita, but run a Milwaukee Brad nailer off my Makita batteries, and have the reverse adapter as well, where I can run Makita tools off of Milwaukee and DeWalt batteries.
for a million subscribers y'all should have a machine shop custom make a gigantic impact hammer mechanism that weighs 50-100lbs. would be so interesting to see if break some nuts and bolts
Keep an eye on Lowes. I bought the Flex back handle saw with a 10ah stacked battery for $255. An absolute steal. Lowes seems to randomly clearance Flex tools with different prices by store.
"aaaaaand it's gone" 😂 listen man, you got my sub a few months ago because 1) your graphs are informative via picture and real-time-updates when testing, and 2) you didn't say anything about "smash my like button, hit that subscribe button" like the rest of them, and 3) you keep up with the times by testing new with old and show that database of product ratings so *I* can make the informed decision about what I need and at what price point I'm willing to compromise on. that's all we dudes could ask for these days.
Is it possible to start do some teardowns on drills and battery packs? To show what manufacturer of batteries, motors etc. that are used making it easier to choose parts for repairs and diy upgrades and builds. Personally I have great experience with diy power tool batteries, since they are way cheaper and can often deliver more amps than regular batteries do to using higher discharge capacity cells. Finding the right 18650 or 21700 cells to use is fairly easy since they are so common. Finding the right pouch cell to use is much more challenging since such cells are not as common.
I have been watching your videos for a while now. I subscribed right away after seeing the first video. I always look forward to when your new videos drop.
If that IR tool is brushless, throw some RC hobby batteries and controller's at it. Will 100% be able to pump enough amps and volts to smoke the motor :)
This is hilariously ironic, I’ve been trying to get my current 1/2” high torque warrantied, and have been getting the run around. They tried to get me to just buy another but I was like no with my luck once I get one the new model will drop, and here we are lol I just got mine back Monday
Need to put that flex pouch on the 3/4 gun That is what o already use to pull semi truck wheel. But do ever so often find that 1 lig that takes a good beating before removing
Awesome video. Really cool to see the difference that load voltage and current can play on different setups, some worked better than others obviously 😂
Hi,the Ingersol Rand would be impressive to test with the the Flex batteries,and for that purpose probably most accessible would be an ebike brushless controller for suitable voltage (think 60Volts) and loads of amps,mounted underneath the IR impact wrench. Needs connecting the power,3 phase to motor,hall sensors from IR to ebike controller and trigger aka throttle to controller (possible a different one than stock IR trigger). Let me know your thoughts,I am not an electronics engineer but a bit of information help might add;think from 300K subscribers is possible to find someone with better knowledge to point you in the right direction. Wish you success and thanks for keeping up and updating. Hope the idea to be of help, IR motor should work fine with the increased voltage ,the brushless controller is the sensible part which burned-out. Changing that for a higher voltage rated one should do the trick although not as compact as stock IR controller.
This reminds me of some good old times when you could throw 14v batteries (had more ah than 12v) in 12v Festool drills. They would run on so much higher rpm and more pixies that you would burn the crap out of the trigger every few months or so. Im sure there's much better over voltage protection these days in those potted circuitboards you now find in them.
It would be nice to see Milwaukee create some sort of flex volt system that allows them to start changing from their tried and true 18v lineup to a balls to the wall 24v lineup without destroying what they’ve already started
flex jus up and came out with a 10 ah stacked lithium meanwhile we gotta wait 42 more years before dewalt makes a 6ah stacked flexvolt... or go stacked with their 15ah huge heavy battery which would benefit the most from the size reduction
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@@TorqueTestChannel saw the patent here: image-ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-public/print/downloadPdf/20220371172 I've also heard some samples may have been sent into the field, but haven't gotten hands on one myself
I sure hope the new high torque has those captured pins. But im afraid it makes too much sense. The reason they changed the 2767 to the new design was because the new 2967 uses them as well and would reduce cost of both. Fingers crossed it is not so.
You can keep all your electric cordless tools, the only cordless that I have is a drill and it still costs me money over time because you will have to replace the batteries at some point and the batteries are not cheap. I will stick with my electric drill with a plug that I have owned for over 42 years now and it still works like new. I will also continue to use my air tools, my impact wrench works as good today as it did when I bought it over 13 years ago as do my air drills, air hammer and air ratchets. My Snap On air ratchet I have owned for over 44 years now. Guess what no batteries to buy for them.
If you haven't purchased any of today's cordless tools, your perspective may be a bit "dated". But I understand about the battery issues. I've thrown away 3 cordless drills in 10 years because I couldn't get batteries for them anymore. My corded drills still work.
Dude I can’t wait to see the new hikoki wr36dg 1/2” high torque (1475ft/lb and 1000 ft/lbs on the dyno with the 2967….I can say one thing for sure tho and that’s metabo hpt / hikoki better be coming out with some pouch cell batteries if they’re going to keep up especially with what seems like a 6 to 12 month logistical delay of new tool releases that comes with tools being made in and for another region or country’s market (deciding where it will be released, when etc. ) then the time it takes to decide if the market in said region has the demand to be worth rebranding etc and that’s to be expected when that region thought it would be a better idea to change the name of a company to sound more “North American” I guess, that or they didnt think you and your wife buying the same brand toys would go over very well at work around the water cooler
