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Quiet you have elven tracer demi god junker and hokage kiri too lol

Spicy extreme take: Doomfist's skin should've been the mythic. It got voice line changes for Rocket Punch for the arcade, new voice lines, a really great looking skin, and Mercy... doesn't even change her ultimate. "Heroes never die!" you lot aren't heroes lol. Even Doomfist doesn't stare he's a hero, ever, he just says he's evolving humanity. "Meteor Strike!" still makes perfect sense because that's just the move he does. Mythic Mercy was definitely only "mythic" because money.

@@accuratememin good take

@@accuratememin doomfist is bad we don't need his mythic jus like we didn't need a mercy

​@@doinkz333 everyone will get a mythic eventually

Was anyone expecting something else?

Apathy is a far worse thing for a game than hate. Hate means people care. Apathy means you simply don't care anymore. Once Apathy sets in. A game is probably fucked

you guys say this for every season💀

@@legojay14 people say they hate overwatch but they really hate the way it’s been treated.

@Plckyeater exactly. And there's a point alot of people decide it's no longer worth engaging with a miserable experience. So they just stop caring. Flats is sprinting to variety content before the bottom falls out and even watching overwatch videos isn't worth it

I actually wasn’t playing support at that time bc I was playing dead by daylight lmao 😭😭

My friend is also teaching me how to play! I’m silver dps and he is a previous top 500, current master tank player that knows how to play every character since he coached a lot of people. I’m learning flex dps right now and junk is my most played but pharah and reaper are also very fun for me

Most tank and support players understand Lucio's value. Im pretty sure only dps don't think Lucio is that good.

@@vgrants1717 More like most DPS just want to run away solo and win on their own. They think the tank and healer part of the team is just decoys who are supposed to attract all fire.

You see the difference, as always, is whether you win or lose

You should try comp. It's way more chill

Get real its 107 rn where i am.

@@m3rkbullw0rm48lol that’s nothing it’s 108 where I am. stay in your lane

@@asonofliberty3662it's 109 here, get rolled nerd

@@Punchbadguy cool, on sunday its gonna be 112° get ready boyo

Here it’s 13/55 degrees (and 11 o clock at night)

yeah that was fine, also i'm pretty sure ow1 was even worse, if there was a "sleep -> boosted storm arrows" combo, since storm used to do more dmg, and tanks had less hp

Turns out no respect was due to them

As a Doom main, my condolences. For a counterargument though, our characters can singlehandedly carry the game in a way that no other characters can, so it makes sense for them to counter us.

oh yes i full in agree, that the character has the ability to carry a game is part of the appeal. Was more stating something that surprised me, less of a complaint.

Yeah I had a pretty good time in Season five. Prop hunt was a fun game mode as well as Winston volleyball. Kinda sucks that it was after the PvE news…

Im pretty sure their reasoning was that "nerfs make people feel bad," so they decided to buff everyone to the moon first. The hp buff was supposed to indirectly nerf healing and damage, but it only really nerfed some characters.

For most ranks, that doesn't really matter. Sure, if you're in top500, my condolences, but if your mid plat, it doesn't really matter. Focus on what you can do and let them do their own thing. Who knows, maybe they'll surprise you with brilliant plays that only a poke comp can take advantage of.

@@vgrants1717 If you think a mid plat Lucio is going to be making brilliant plays away from the rest of your poke comp, then you're absolutely delusional.

@@hobosorcerer Have some faith in your team and they might surprise you. I've played overwatch from console silver to masters pc, and you might see some great plays from those you least expect.

I think it's also lots of kids latching on to 6v6 as an identity of sorts, where people who just have an opinion of the opposite must therefore be bad people. Meanwhile the adults just wanna discuss it for what it is; a video game.

@@Korvmannen Honestly I don't see that. I mean sure there are bad faith actors, but that is hardly exclusive to any side. I think a lot of the people who latch onto 6v6 without having much argument themselves, are simply people who are fed up with the current state of the game, and at the very least 6v6 represents the idea that things 'could' be different, and anything that is different is at least a step away from the current state of dissatisfaction with how things are run now. Also people in favor of 6v6 tend to have much more qualitative arguments for why a revert to the former format would be viable, while people who advocate for staying on 5v5 almost never have any tangible arguments besides "queue times" and never actually make deep thought points on how to fix the game in 5v5 (cus they can't. 2 years has been spent to no avail and they know its not a task they know how to solve, so they just try to gaslight the opposing viewpoint holders into thinking the past was worse than they remember, that its rose tinted nostalgia, that 6v6 is worse and that double shield would return etc etc). But in all the posts I see on the OW forum and reddit and twitter, by far the most hostility comes from people who jump onto 6v6 discussions to derail them, rather than the other way around. And so many people in advocacy of 5v5 personally attack, insult, belittle, and attempt to ridicule anyone who advocates for 6v6 for any reason, regardless of arguments or discourse attempt. I really don't see the "6v6 is a cult" thing, even though I meme a bit about it myself. I just see it as people who keep bringing it up, because the people in charge never address it, so it never gets any resolution nor rest. What more can one do, but keep fighting till its either addressed or directly shut down by the devs? And then everyone who isn't strictly pro 6v6 will get bored by 6v6 being brought up all the time, but that's just because their own views are not the ones being neglected. People who are 5v5 or people who are neutral on the matter, they don't have a horse in this. Their pov is not left unaddressed for years. They're not being ignored. They're not being openly attacked any time they open their mouth about what they want to see in the game. But as soon as 6v6 is mentioned as a solution to an issue, it just gets bodied and called a cultist movement. Some bad actors do make it 10x worse than it should be, on the 6v6 side too, but I mean at this point apparently it's become illegal to mention 6v6 and the moment something is made illegal as a topic of discourse, that absolutely will further radicalize people and turn regular forum goers into cultists cus they're literally being forced into taking extreme measures just to feel like they actually have any space to speak. I know this is going way beyond what your comment digged at, I'm mostly writing this for future reference to have some context for others who may read it later and not see the whole picture as clearly as it could be seen.

@@Real_MisterSir Sure, I'm a "6v6'er" myself, but the level of the discourse is just ridiculous at this point. Even though I feel quite strongly about pro-6v6, the vitriol (from either side) is just so unnecessary.

A cult is the only way to make a insane world even more insane. Dude devs just dont change the entire game out of nowhere. Unlike you the balancing team sat down and considered everything and not just useless confirmation bias to make 6v6 look good. I never played OW1, but the way people who want 6v6 back are arguing, tells me that they cant seriously know how to balance this either. 6v6 advocates avoid talking about the cons of it, while the only ones who really think about pro and contra, usually take a much more neutral standpoint. As someone who isnt biased in this matter, 6v6 might split the pain between 2 tanks, but balancing would still be a major issue.

@@derunfassbarebielecki ''the balancing team sat down and considered everything'' and that's how we know you have no idea what you're talking about

5v5 in theory solved most of the issues in ow1, mainly shooting shields/defensive abilities. The supports were also massively overwhelmed trying to keep 11 shifting bodies in their mind on top of the color kaleidoscope that ow1 was. The maps were also a little small to support 12 people. 5v5, in theory, would take pressure off supports and give it to the tanks while keeping the dps in roughly the same place. The problem was that too many defensive abilities were removed, so tanks blew up. Then they gave the tanks defensive abilities back and people realized that the tank couldnt be both the frontline and peel, so they ignored the tanks and went for the supports/dps. To combat this, they increased the support healing and dmg so they didn't need peeling. But then dps couldn't kill anything, so they buffed dps dmg so they could do something, which put us back to square 1 with tanks exploding. So then, not wanting to nerf everyone, they buffed all the hp pools and gave the dps passive so dps cold still do stuff, but tanks wouldn't explode. Now, tanks don't have the defensive abilities, they still cant frontline and peel at the same time, and they cant unalive anyone without the dps passive; dps is extremely polarized because breakpoints were shifted massively on some characters while remaining relatively the same on others and the dps passive is better on some characters over others; Supports are in the same position because dmg and healing actually haven't changed. The damage that tore a 1000hp ball or ulting Winston to shreds still exists, but now Sigma has 650hp, and the healing that countered it only works if tanks or certain dps are doing the damage. I believe that 5v5 had potential, but they botched it time and time again that it's too late now. They would have to go back to the start of ow2 and redo balance from there for any hope of 5v5 feeling good. That said, them going back to ow2 beginnings is more likely than 6v6 at this point.

@@vgrants1717 even more likely and extremely probable at this point is funding for the game being pulled

$20 Sojourns win/pick rate drops and they decide to buff her in the near future. My guess is that they're gonna bring back slow

I'm gonna call your bluff, reference at least three specific times he has done this. Don't worry, I'll wait.

@@RaidChief Ah yes, let me just retreat to the part of my memory that saves Flats' exact opinions on every patch so that I can provide you exactly 3. Here's one very blatant one that's fresh in my memory because it happened at the start of the season. Reaper appeared in the patch notes (a character who has been garbage for a *long* time) and flats immediately reacted with "Eugh, what are you doing here." Along with a bunch of other times he down played Reaper specifically, simply because of his trauma as a tank player. I'm sure he's done the same for Pharah, Junkrat, and Mei in the past as well.

It’d be like if Moira was hard meta above metal ranks

Right, completely screw queue times even more, that surely wasn't one of the issues with 6v6 Also the separation is so arbitrary lmao, is Mercy a support or a healer? What about Ana? Literally every Support in the game heals Dividing the DPS role is even more dumb and arbitrary, specially cus the traditional DPS rock paper scissors classification system used by the community (which was oversimplified and arbitrary in itself) was "Hitscan/Flanker/Projectile", and not all Projectile and Hitscan heroes are the same, Tracer and Cass are both Hitscan, Pharah and Genji are both Projectile, there's nothing inherently problematic in having both a Tracer and a Cass in the same team, but under this split we couldn't play them together because??? Making it so there can only be 1 Shield Tank in a team is already janky, but it's fair to try it, but splitting the DPS and support roles for literally no reason?????

That would restrict freedom without giving any benefit

@@azurabbit12 Definitely not reading the book you wrote to reply to my comment... calm down.

@@vgrants1717 I thought the main problem with 6v6 was double shield? wouldnt this fix that? And people could queue for multiple roles like they do now.

@@sinister0077 First off, people generally don't que for multiple roles. If I want to play Zarya, Im not gonna que support. Second off, the defensive abilities were a problem, not just shields. Dm, bubble, spin, and vape are on non-shield tanks and it still feels awful to shoot.

No it was the Brazilian VA that was murdered

So your solution is to just bully everyone that plays widow even if they arent doing well?

No the solution is don't have a character thst makes everyone stress. As a doom main, I literally can't play fucking open queue. If I do, any sniper can kill me. Doom is a fucking tank. Why am I getting one tapped in open queue?