Overwatch 2 Tiktoks To Watch Before Tiktok Is Banned 

My first thought when seeing Tik Tok was going the way of the dodo was “Flats better start farming what he can” Time to get all those rolls for sandwich in.

"I gave him a 3 second hook and took away all of his damage." 10 hogs 1 hole lite

I don't care for the loss of TikToks but I do care for the loss of Flats reacting content.

We’re gonna start seeing “Overwatch 2 Instagram Reels to keep you up at night” lol

The minecraft thing can be summed up as: it’s doing good, but that’s not due to Mojang/Microsoft. The community around a lot of content creators exploded a couple years ago and created a sort of rennaisance,but a lot of the updates have been lackluster. 1.20, 1.19, 1.17, 1.15 have all been somewhat lackluster updates, the “mob votes” where players vote for one of three mobs to be implemented has been a dumpster fire since the beginning and the output of new content has been somewhat lackluster when you think about the size of it all. Minecraft is one of the biggest games in the world, yet it took them a year to implement a handful of blocks and two mobs, which modders could pump out in an afternoon.

As someone who religiously played and still plays all of the Halo's the discrepancy between a lot of Bungie devs moving to 343 but making wacky story lines is probably due to Frank O'Connor (former Bungie magazine head) becoming Franchise Development Director and just kinda doing whatever he wanted. When he was at Bungie he did contribute to story but wasn't in leadership. He would apparently propose some ideas that were usually rejected. He left Bungie after Halo 3's release to work for Microsoft Studios itself. When 343 was formed he was assigned as Head of Franchise and as if he held a grudge steered the story on how he wanted

Chat was not properly informed about Halo lmao, it is a lot more complicated of a story, both for good and bad

The reason people feel like Minecraft fell off is because a lot of the charm of Minecraft was lost with some of the content updates. 1.9 made the combat more complicated than the simple ”spam left click” model they had previously. It’s a better combat system, but it’s also more complicated. For people who don’t care about that, the distancing from the original charming art style makes us lose some of the vibe that earlier Minecraft versions had. If you go back now and watch some alpha or beta footage, the game looks a lot more charming than modern Minecraft. I’m guessing a lot of it has to do with how a lot of us grew up with the alpha / beta versions of Minecraft, so the complete overhaul of the textures and colour pallette just makes it feel… off. Objectively speaking, the current version of Minecraft is a better game. It has more features, it allows you to express your creativity in more ways, it lets you get insanely technical with the redstone or keep it super casual by just exploring. It has more for everyone. But it also feels less like the Minecraft a lot of us remember from our childhoods

Flats alone is keeping me interested in this game man. It’s so satisfying to watch him laugh his ass off at a clip of some guy making a mistake I’d make 13 out of 10 times and then being like “yeah that guys such an idiot haha get good”

Adressing the minecraft thing: at some point in EVERY games lifespan people will start complaining about the game becoming "too different" from the original either mechanically or visually. It happened with Minecraft with the whole "Minecraft doesn't feel like Minecraft anymore" arguement. It happened with Team Fortress 2 with the "Death of an Artstyle" arguement. And it started happening to Overwatch 2 recently with people complaining about new skins. People complaining about a game changing to much will always eventually happen after enough updates have passed. There's no point in engaging in these kinds of arguements because they never arise from an actual concrete problem they just kinda happen no matter what.

Halo changing studios was so noticeable. My first halo game was reach, then 3, then 4. The difference between the first 2 and 4 was night and day. Pvp in 4 was still pretty fun. Love my railgun

i wish these videos were more then just like 4 shorts

hot take maybe, but as a (casual) Hog player, I found Flat's 3 second hook timer very fun

I feel like I already saw this one

The story of the Halo games didn't just change directions between Reach and 4 during the Bungie/343 split, it basically changed directions with every new game since then. Every game almost feels like a fanfiction written about another Halo sequel series that doesn't really exist. I don't even hate everything about them, but it feels like the vibe does a 180 every new release (except Halo Wars, I guess).

didnt flats already have a short of the first clip talking about creator patches? 1/2 the vid is content we already seen

7:20 THIS IS THE BIGGEST THING THAT PISSES ME OFF!!! black team was fantastic, blood lines set them up so well, i was excited to see the future then bam. my headcanon is that was a team of 4s that liked black team so much they copied them, which actual black team was fine with since they can run around distracting everyone while black is all sneaky in the background. and the didact proves this worked, cuz black team has been in the shadows doing theyre stuff while everyone else(except upper oni people) think they died.

Gotta watch the rest of Roll for Sandwich!

Damn 4 TikToks in one video crazy 😂

In regards to the gravestone victory pose I personally like them because I can show off that I'm one of those guys who feeds and dies a lot, and I am disappointed that they no longer make ones for the new heroes 😥

I didn't give a shit about the tik tok ban until I remembered: "WHAT ABOUT ROLL FOR SANDWICH GUY!!!"

If Kotick gets Tik Tok he better not slap a battle pass on it

9:25 while yes many were ex-bungie, that also applies to people moving up to upper management where they had no business being such as Frank O'Connor and Kiki Wolfkill to name a couple. With pure hubris and arrogance, they wanted to move away from a "chief" focused story and branch out like the marvels universe. Take a look at the live action Halo series by Paramount and the executive producer has Kiki Wolfkill, is it any surprise you now have Master Chief clapping actual prisoner of war Cheeks? Never has his helmet or armour on because he's "human" too? 343 has had Halo longer than Bungie has, with little to show for it other than disappointment. Infinite was notorious for hiring so many outside developer companies that caused a lot of internal issues, and the hiring issue that was contractors. Hired long enough to be tiresome, but not long enough to be eligible to be brought on as an actual employee. After a couple of years at most they were thrown away along with their accumulated experience, because remember this isn't Unreal Engine or Unity but a niche game engine that many are not familiar with. Microsoft don't know what tf to do with Halo, and neither does 343. Helldivers was the game many ODST lovers wanted, and you have Phil crying exclusives aren't good. Cry me a river and catch this L.

Of course the day I’m not there for TikTok’s he gets a Halo Infinite comparison.

Not me watching this now working at a Dunkin lmaoooo

Hey flats, just wanted to ask since im getting a lot of dejavu, do you reupload these videos become i swear ive watched this before, no hate, just asking

I need to see the tournament where Roadhog 3 sec hook and no damage, that sounds hilarious! Is there a video of that?

Zarya's 816 tattoo was made to spell BIG, as in BIG GRAV.

bruh that third video was like half the video

Dunkin Donuts is basically extinct here Timmies hunted down all the Dunkies to extinction in Maple Land

I love OverWatch so much but what makes it fun is playing with my friends and when my best friend that I love to play with says it's ass and doesn't play. It's kind of hard to play feeling not as much fun when I'm playing by myself

As a late comer to Minecraft, the way i understand it is that earlier minecraft updates did ALOT of stuff and alot of stuff that was interesting, i think a lot of people consider like the Nether update to be where it peaked and started going downhill(I don't know if it was sold to Microsoft at this point, i joined during then and really like the Nether but didnt care much for anything afterwards). Nowadays, the fans look at the devs work with much more scrutiny. Of course you have the Mob vote, an arbitrary community vote where players choose which one mob to add to the game(now, because the others were supposed to be added later). One of the votes was manhandled by Dream, which people were pissed about. As time went on, people started getting angry that the other mobs were never added, as they were genuinely cool ideas and it got to the point where modders were adding them to the game with full functionality in *weeks* compared to Mojang's usual update schedule. People were adding them via mods *before* the winning mob was even added properly. This compounds on other issues as the fandom seemed to take issue with a lot of more recent updates. A lot of what i see pointed out is stuff like Mojang adding materials and mobs that have very singular and niche purpose(copper has a very limited usage in cool looking building blocks, a questionably useful lightning rod, and a mildly useful spyglass; the armadillo got added and its one big draw is dog armor. Thats it.), in combination with the idea that Mojang took a long time to implement very little or not very meaningful stuff. Not to mention that they have strictly said no to very desired mobs(like sharks, though i forgot the reason) and the cutting of fireflies(originally frogs were going to eat them, but Mojang backtracked that because in real life, fireflies are poisonous to frogs, I believe, and Mojang felt Minecraft was educational to kids and didnt want to spread false information). Tl;dr Minecrafts fanbase began to be disatisfied with the newer updates and the discrepancies between the quality of the modding scene and the official stuff became more and more apparent. At best, people are ambivalent to the new releases and at worst, they openly protest them. Don't get me started on Halo

‏‪5:45‬‏ the mob vote.

800kg for anyone wondering not lbs which is ludicrous 😂

5:20 I've played the game since 2011/2012, and while I don't think Minecraft has gone downhill, I do think some of the decisions made about the game are a bit concerning. For a bit of context, during Minecraft's decline in popularity around 2014-2017, there was a 2 year gap between major updates (1.8 was in 2014 and 1.9 didn't come until 2016), with Microsoft buying Mojang/Minecraft shortly after 1.8 was released. Sometime in 2018 Minecraft had it's renaissance era, mostly due to things like memes, nostalgia, and the hype for 1.13 aquatic update and 1.14 village and pillage update that both heavily reworked aspects of the game. If you hadn't played the game in a while, you had a lot of stuff to come back to and look forward to. I think things start to get muddy after that because there were somethings that were implied to have been planned but never happened (Like a teased birch forest rework that never happened), some updates got delayed or split into multiple because of the amount of content in them (Caves and cliffs update), or some content getting pushed back (like the archeology stuff), which of course gets people miffed. But I think the main issues, and where most of my own issues personally lie, come from things like how Microsoft is handling more administrative things. Things like the chat reporting system, the EULA and MUG with having vague language in certain areas, etc. This is also just the Java side of things, I've never even touched Bedrock edition before so I can't really comment on things like Bedrock's market place/micro transactions.

As someone who came from a frighteningly similar place (paladins) once you implement a 2nd dev team and they don't light the world on fire it's wraps. Overwatch won't outright die, it'll just fizzle out so enjoy it for what it is now

minecraft definitly hasn't gotten more complex, i'd say if anything its gotten simplier just with more content. the issue imo with it is that since 1.16 the devs have effectivley been playing Catchup with everything that was promised for the inital Caves and Cliffs update. 1.16-1.20 has basically just been everything that was announced for Caves and Cliffs spread out across 4 "major" updates. to me its a Overpromise under delevered situation...acutally kinda like Ow2 tbh. as for Halo: infinite, god damn things must have changed in the 2 years since i've played cause I remember them trying to spin like 1 map and some skins as enough content for 4 months

I’m a minecraft vet the problem is that thay aren’t adding shit and the mob vote is a big problem

give baby Dva only armor, make her pistol do like 30 damage per shot, but make the range only be like 3-5 meters and only 5 shots in the pistol before reload with a long Rate of Fire

in flats we trust

Unrelated: I wonder if decent sized streamers in the Overwatch scene like Flats could bring about a change if they discussed how broken the report system in this game is

Had a latte at dunkin once and it was rancid

1:11 Bro, you KNOW there are going to be people that only use beat to try to kill someone, miss 50% of the time, and then lose the next fight because beat should have been save for EMP, Blade, Grav, Rampage, Flux, etc

The thing about minecraft is that they are scared of changing anything. Mojang higher ups feel like they caught lightning in a bottle and that any big change will let it out. for context, Jens has been cooking up the combat update 5 years now, thats how scared they are. Another big issue is that there is a massive disconect between the studio and the players in every area. For starters, almost all MC content creators play on the java version of Minecraft wich is exclusive to pc (not including mac os) while the majority of players play on bedrock (mostly on mobile). not only does this cause confusion because of the small bit noticable differences, but it is causes conflicting interests (for example: redstone tutorials need to specify which version they are for). Minecraft also has a disconnect when it comes to who's voices they should hear. Minecraft is a funny game because, unlike most live service games, Minecraft gets most of it's miney off of new purchases of the games rather than micro transactions. What this means for the game is that higher ups want to focus on getting new players and dont care about existing ones because they arent likely to spend on micro transactions. the suggestions of existing players are basicaly only heard during the mob votes, and even then they are outnumbered by the new players. The only way existing players get their voices heard save for the mob vote is through content creators because sometimes higher ups acknowledge the amount of impressions a content creator can have as valuable. Mojang also has a ton of pressure put on them to always improve the game. Players, Modders, Content creators, the media, and Microsoft are all looking at mojang and criticizing it for one reason or the other all the time. they are pressured int trying to appeal to everyone

FLATS WEE NEE SAMICH VIDS. Roll for Sammichhhhhhh

While watching the Dunkin' tiktok I thought I'd already watched this video before... Turns out you and emongg are literally the same person

Minecraft didn't go more complex. Remember when there was no crafting guide inside the game and you had to go on the internet searching for the crafts by yourself xd Good old times

Halo really dropped the ball by not making a ODST game like helldivers

I’m a new player in this game loving life… need 50 wins for ranked but stuck in quick play and can’t do anything with teams and me being useless so I’ve won 34/91 yayyyy with a 2kd . Wish I could get into bronze asap 50 wins takes so damn long

To set the record straight: Minecraft is a game kids like. That does not make it a kids' game or designed to be a kids' game.

I think halo is a good example becaue at the same time halo took a long time to figure out how to manage because it was one of he first times they purchased a major company to personally handle (that I remmber) at this point halo starting to show success could be a good sign since it shows tht Microsoft has learned how thy best valance helping a company and individual games without being overbearing or too held back

YO WE’RE SO BACK!

The issue with minecraft is the lack of progression. You beat the dragon super easily. Then it's optional to kill the wither, who's really easy, and now the Warden, who isn't worth beating tbh. They need to add more objectives aka more content.

I've played Halo since the original first launched. 343 has completely destroyed the Halo story, which would be fine if they would settle on making their own story for Halo. But they don't, they start with some ideas, then in the next game they completely switch gears. They've done this twice now. Halo used to be THE best of the first person shooter genre. Now, because of poor management, it's easily one of the most boring.

9:10 this is completely wrong I have researched it so goddamn much to prove people wrong because I hate people who are adamant about this there was only 14 at most from Bungie working on Halo 4 and that was with a studio that had 250 people.

In my experience with minecraft, mining has become less enjoyable, and villagers have made mining unnecessary after you get them. The moment someone sets up their villagers is often when I lose interest in a server.

Only thing i want from Halo is a Halo Wars 3, i have hundreds of hours in Halo Wars 2 and still regularly play it but wish we got a new one

bro flats putting in 11 mins of ads in 45 mins. thats like 30%

The minecraft point on that one TikTok was talking about specifically Microsoft purchasing minecraft (bedrock edition) not Java or anything else. Play bedrock minecraft and then try Java edition, it’s very clear which one has more time and polish

Flanksteak

I remember playerbase not liking streamer changes. Unless the changes were made by creators they like. We shouldn't act like it was this loved thing they devs decided to take from us

5:40. So, to my knowlage, the main problem with Minecraft is that it was too slow and you never felt like you got anywhere. Dew to durability, level grinding, repairing and a lot of other mechanics it took way too long to get anything and then when you got there it was kinda underwhelming. It was basically just some stat buffs and so 90% of fights you just clicked the enemy and they died or the enemy hit you and you died. Think CoD but somehow more bland.

yo mincraft went down when techno died

13:00 you already saw that video

7:14 LMAO Flats thinks people don't like infinite because of the story lol. 3 words: no slayer playlist. Also terrible progression and missions for bpxp. Meaning you have to do dumb stuff like stick 20 plasma grenades or use the worst weapon in the game to unlock a blue helmet making progression feel horrible.

The problem with Minecraft is that Microsoft are slowly transitioning from Java to Bedrock edition and Bedrock is the Pay 2 Play version. You have to buy skins, mods, resource packs all that stuff off their store whereas on Java it's free. Other than that the game isn't terrible and Java still gets the same updates as Bedrock

6:09 my view on Minecraft is really a lack of stuff, but stuff thats added is either rare af, useless or op af, or a mix of the three. Also they are pushing Bedrock Edition (full of "micro"-transactions that is the ONLY way you can customize stuff without jumping through a million hoops, while the original version (Java) lets you have infinite customization as well as mods for free... I understand why they are doing it, but it sucks ass... especially since there are rumors that they plan on axing Java, despite the actual mechanics (like redstone) are WAY better and despite it being less buggy

5:40 I hate people who say "MC is too complex" like bro the only "complex" is the redstone. AND now the MC updates are better, yes slow but very good now.

The thing with Minecraft, the endgame is too easy to get too and makes the game easier

winton

Flats has it backwards on Halo, grey team is the only one I'll give you. But it was BUNGIE who had a bad attitude towards the books. 343 tried so different things but they never "Hated" Bungie. if anything 343 shits on their own stories

what i miss from OW1 is OG Torb, his rework is what ruined OW for me tbh

I'm always so impressed with Dunkin Donuts. No matter where in America I go they always 100% of the time manage to fuck my order up so bad

Minecraft went downhill in terms of the content of updates, it's not that it's too much being added, it's that the system being added don't mesh well with pre-existing ones the new features either feeling useless, irrelevant or completely invalidating an old system and always contributing to inventory bloat.

Prime dunks

Hi flats

Overwatch's biggest issue is that everyone who talk about it talk fucking loudly, regardless of whether they actually play the game or not. People know Halo Infinite isn't regarded in a good light, but it's still only really the active (/or former) playerbase who really care about its state and discuss it openly. With Overwatch however, this is not limited to the actual playerbase. It's everyone. In the same way everyone can have an opinion about Fortnite or COD without having played it in years -or ever, Overwatch is the same. Overwatch just had much further to fall than COD ever did, because COD never had any game that was universally hailed as a beacon of light in the industry. Sure Warzone was/is popular, but it has never been regarded as something truly special. There has never been big industry sentiment tied to that title, at the end of the day it's "just another game in a long line of COD games. We know what to expect". Overwatch has had such a steep fall, and the public perception shows how the sentiment carries even outside the active playerbase. Once-great, now memed on, and seen as the game that will never improve and be good enough for it to actually make proper positive headlines again -because every headline will be held against its peak and fall utterly short. And I sadly don't see this changing, partly due to execs, but especially due to the devs and balance team who just fundamentally lack a clear vision for the game and some balls to either walk the walk, or start listening to the (credible part of the) community for genuine feedback and lay their egos aside. letting the game rot for 3 years and then jump the gun with 10 bad gameplay and marketing decisions in a row with OW2 really has cemented public sentiment at the absolute basement level.

Minecraft isnt on a downhill, but microsoft is seriously stunting its growth. Poor handling of the games, the slowest update schedule ive ever seen let alone some of the most pointless additions possible. Plus bedrock edition which is their main showoff one that they advertise is filled to the brim with micro-transactions that just scream greedy, pay for skins, pay for mods, heck you have to pay for custom maps. Its the community epsecially youtube keeping minecraft on its growth as its a great tool for content, though roblox seems to be slowly ctaching up and possibly taking over due to microsofts neglect of the ip

2019 OW fans: YES OW2 2024 OW fans: WTF am I looking at

flatz dont worry once tiktok is gone just do reacting to shorts everyone who makes good content posts their tiktoks there anyways

I think the biggest problem with halo is we have been playing arean shooters for 20 years. I didnt hate halo infinite it was just old

Zarya is on hgh

so practically OW2 is just us reminiscing on how OW1 was fun? xDD

Hey flats minecraft 1.9 aka combat update is when microsoft bought out mojang

Bro you watched like 4 TikTok’s 😭

Minecraft, at one point when bought by Microsoft, went downhill the same year ow was released, but at one point, rhings changed, and minecraft then became one of the best games ever. It's also a simple youtibe search for a full explanation.

If they are willing to let halo die in a ditch i am terrified at what they would let happen to overwatch

They should add flats roadhog into the game

-Flats made roadhog unplayable -Now he's decent -Flats made Orisa unplayable(turned her into THE WALL) -Now Orisa is unkillable -Flats made Rein good -Rein is barely an option... You see what I'm seeing?

I am watching this while playing minecraft. people are being dramatic about updates, which I get to an extent, but its very much not a dead game

they want a competitive game not a fun silly game anymore. so i dont see us ever getting this again.

Survival Vanilla Minecraft went down, it became too boring, you can't do anything complex without farming for 10,000 hours. Modded Survival or Multi-player Server ? Still peak and very enjoyable.

Minecraft never went downhill. Most of the audience that left just grew up and had either played so much that they burned out or let themselves be swayed by the comments that it's a children's game. A lot of people who have left minecraft have regularly gone back over the years and it's still constantly growing in popularity.

Minecraft old players don't like that it is being treated as a child game, also that last MC game blew down hard

That moment when you realize halo odst could've been helldivers before helldivers but we got whatever that garbage odst ended up being. That game was such a disappointment for me.

I love the cries for help of overwatch addiction

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Dunkin Donuts sucks ass. That’s why I go to a different place. Their drinks taste the same every single time. The one time it was bad that girl was fired👌🏼 Gotta keep the image of perfect drinks. Gotta enjoy the West with 7Leaves, some of their coffees can be very strong since you can add up to 6 espresso shots but they will never differ in taste. I’ve tried tons of places and people just suck at drinks. I’d rather replace baristas with robots at this point. It could make Starbucks good, who knows.

Here before the bots yippee

Minecraft is doing amazing what?