P&S ModCast 367 - The 7th Annual Airing of Grievances 

I'll need help getting Nutn

​@@PrimaryAndSecondarynutn will leave early, 💯

I'm going to listen to the whole thing, but are we roasting Beretta?

​@@JesusisLORD77778 Quite the opposite - the man from Beretta said that he has made spicy memes at work that will never see the light of day .

Exactly!

Bad ffl. I would recommend finding another one in your area.

I'll work on it. 🤐

He's half right. There's things that happen in practical shooting sports that are very dependent on knowing ruleset, stage tackling, and skills that aren't directly tied to ones ability to actually shoot good. THAT BEING SAID, all the best shooters funnel into practical shooting sports, so in the end you do have to be an amazing shooter in order to win at the highest levels. What he's saying applies moreso to lower/mid tier competitors where someone who's USPSA savvy will win over a better shooter who's not too knowledgeable on the sport aspect. I've met guys who shot damn well and when I asked them how long it they've been competing, they said "first time", up until that day they had only been dry firing and taking classes. And had they actually understood the sport a bit better and polished some of the more sportive skills, they'd have finished much higher. Truths a little grey, but yeah, most tacticool RU-vidrs couldn't shoot their way out of a paperbag.

He probably would rather just listen, but I add him to the panels.

I'm good with it. I pipe up when I feel I should.😉

I'm still getting over cheek pistols. @@PrimaryAndSecondary

Brass facts, hop, and Matt is all that this needed…. No one knows the other guys

Come on now! BrYan is seriously a great dude.

Alright Bryan is out, Caleb is back in

He had some seriously insightful and interesting points at first but once he started going off about millennials or how muscle memory is stupid I completely lost interest in anything he was saying.

That would depend on the enemy.

He's inspired me to close out of more than a few P&S Modcasts.

@@dan96b6 He’s almost a meme, or a caricature of the “back in my day” guy or the “this young generation ..” guy. There’s a difference between someone paying their dues and blatant gate keeping. It seems he wants to be the troll under the bridge, who’s toll to be paid is berating you for being youthful haha!

He sounds like a shithead. “You’re not allowed to enjoy things and benefit from the failures and experiences of others to make informed decisions. You’ve got to just fail and waste time, otherwise you are just entitled.”

No one gives a fuck about listening to anyone other then brass, Matt, and hop.

Fast and accurate in a compact package. We thought it was neat. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U8_8TK8Sw-M.html

​@PrimaryAndSecondary Well, as soon as I unpaused after typing up this comment, Bryan with a Y E started speaking on the historical aspect of the subject, and then I felt sort of dumb. I'll definitely check that out.

​@@PrimaryAndSecondaryOK, that was pretty cool. Now I have a new project for 2024... Dammit. 😅

I would love to see their praticscore results even with all of the excuses. Reviewing gear doesn't mean you can shoot.

@@gunnierunner1 at this point, I can’t take these guys serious anymore especially when it comes to any of their advice about shooting skills . I laughed when they were talking about making all stages blind. Like do you really think you would start beating the other guys at the match if that were the case ? I guarantee you wouldn’t. And also, since shooting matches all over in Arizona on and off since 2009, I’ve never seen anyone argue with the guy running scores at a match.

I dont compete, but I want to. My schedule isn't the most conducive. I think no walkthroughs would add a n interesting dynamic in how people process what they see. John Holschen has been covering that topic recently

​@@PrimaryAndSecondary Ill check it out. I run my team through matches without them. The most skilled shooters still win so I don't think it matters from a competitive standpoint. The other guys using it as an excuse is ridiculous and borderline "kilt in streets" talk.

@@PrimaryAndSecondary I understand the schedule thing. But I think it’s absolutely necessary (in our career field) we find time to compete once or even twice a month. Not to win titles or prizes but to pressure test our skills. Especially if you are in a firearms instructor position.

I think he is

I don't know about that.