I had a similar design to feed zombie spores to the Biobot Builder, but then I realized that there are way too many spores in each CO2 packet, as the machine can only process 10k spores/s. So I added a loop after the biobot output with a germ sensor where CO2 packets with >10k are looped back into the Biobot Builder input, and if below 10k they go back into the sporechid room. Makes the pumps run quite less often, so it saves quite a bit of energy.
I'm not a fan of the buildings not having pipe exit connections. Just dropping the water is actually annoying, and not being able to direct the CO2 is just tedious. Am I alone thinking this? I feel the same about any building that isn't explicitly early game, and most of the mid game buildings. I'd rather build outputs then just having to deal with the byproducts in the enviroment
It is definitely meant to make the building more challenging to set up. It means you have to have a couple of tiles of space under the floor. It limits where you can place them and also takes up more space. You can have one pump for multiple buildings, but that means either having them in a column, or wet floors. The CO2 from duplicant breathing means having a general CO2 removal, and then give it significant capacity to deal with the various buildings.
CO2 environment output is fine, as dupes need to exhale it anyway. unless you dont know what youre doing and cant get rid of CO2 from your base its not at all a problem. as for the water, my first thought was to put it over a water reservoir. nothing too complicated. personally, my most complicated issue with various applianceswould be heat management. its been too often for me to have thriving bases that collapsed under its own heat
Yes, in a 3x3 area and through corners which is useful for many gulp fish based filters. They also tend to freeze the water too so ethanol is the best for gulpfish.
@@GCFungus i used them as pwater cleaner. Put them in 3x3 brine and below were 1x3 airflow tiles. Finally Put Pwater below airflow tiles. Gulp Fish will clean and delete temperature.
The pacu changes feel more like a favor to players without OP computers. I know every now and then I would cull the single tile drop off because just trying to scroll past it would tank my fps. Not to mention the need for them as lime farms has diminished due to the introduction of the fossil nodes. Still the change to the algae consumption is welcome because that was frankly an obscene amount for a single fish
I'm not sure about the computer performance side, since now you can't restrict as many pacu to the same tile the performance would be worse for a comparable amount of fish.
ONI player: I don't like how there is random bits of neutronium that sticks out into my base. Everything needs to be square. *Commences rocket shaving* Klei: Stop that!
2:19 i disagree, i dont have the dlc but i still make a lot of use out of the storge tile when it comes to auto-sweepers, sometimes i need a buffer storage but i rather not waist 2 tiles of the auto-sweeper range, its likely that i will have some tiles in the autosweeper's range beacsue most buildings need to be build on a floor, so its very easy to replace those tiles with storege tiles. Its a shame they can only hold 1000kg and they blook autosweepers reach, but i still find them useful nontheless. i hope that in the feuture they will add a storage bin that doesnt have to be placed on floor
The only problem I'm running into is I can't plant the Sporechid seeds in any of the plots the game won't let me so I had to make copper tiles from the door trick and make a pip wild plant them for me😢 letting me only get 4 of the 5 I found
You are aware that sporechirds are decorative plants so can only be planted in decorative pots, i.e. the flower pot, wall pot, hanging pot or aero pot? You cannot plant them in planter boxes, farm tiles or hydroponic tiles.
I'm so happy they added the storage tiles; it was a huge upgrade to my usual "No Sweeping" storage system. Now I can put all the little misc. stuff in storage tiles instead of having a dump bin for all the seeds, reed fiber, refined carbon, lime, etc. I also really appreciate that Pacu are now way more viable as Omelette/Mushroom Quiche producers than Cooked Seafood/Surf N' Turf producers. It's a lot better for game performance, and certainly feels less mean than the previous META.
Noticed crazy lag from dehydrated food. Maybe a couple hundred units is the bare minimum i would consider for an off world mission, but more than a few dozen is enough to produce lag and start making magic polluted dirt from plastic packages.
Have you noticed how much egg from the egg cracker you get from pacu eggs now? Honestly, it is a bit insane.... makes mushroom quiche the go to easy food.
Isn't also true the pacu eggs now produce more raw egg now? To the point that by a kcal standard, it's better to use pacu eggs for omlettes than for cooked seafood?
there is some weird mechanic with the dehydrator might be unfixed bug, when you forbid your dupes to eat certain food but you dehydrate it the dupes will start eating it anyway not sure if i did smth wrong at the consumable setting
How do you take things out of the storage tile? The only way I've found is deconstructing the tile, which is quite annoying. For example, I usually take a bin of oxylite on rocket missions so it can offgas when pressure gets too low in the rocket ship. These tiles do not allow offgassing and there's no button on them to empty storage, so...?
@@GCFungus yeah that somehow doesn't work for me (on a PC). Deselect does nothing, there is no checkmark I could remove. All I can do now is select something useless like rust and then a dupe needs to come over and remove oxylite (and if they have access to rust, they'll fill the tile with rust instead)
Thank you! Could you please make a video explaining tips and tricks to improve game performance please? I have seen you coment individual tips in your videos, but I would love to see all tips together.
I'll have a think about it, but I'm not sure there's a whole lot to make a video from. The absolute key thing is reducing pathing, both of dupes and critters. That means having fewer of both is better, as is reducing the amount of pathing for places they can get to. Beyond that, reducing gas movement and sweeping solids into the same tile have always been mentioned as ways to reduce lag but I'm not convinced these make a huge difference.
Even though the new Critter Condo is not necessary it can still fit in a normal ranch using a single auto sweeper. Just move the door over 3 tiles and the auto sweeper can reach the entire ranch.
Wouldn't the condo help keeping critter mood at 0 in times between grooming? (without fountain) Also means you can overcrowd with one critter without penalty if I understand this correctly
@@GCFungusactually this is quite usefull, as it can keep a criters mood at 0, meaning you don't need a grooming station if you only want the resources and don't care about the eggs.
I wonder if there are any situations where the player actually wants to aim for -9 to -1 happiness rather than 0+ or 4+ to benefit from the reduced diet. 🤔
There's one important change that the new ranching system brings and it concerns plug slugs. Their issue is that, while they generate a bunch of power, they also turn valuable metals into not so valuable hydrogen. However, you can now keep them unhappy (not groomed) and so they eat drastically less metal while still outputting tamed amounts of energy.
So pacu are harder to abuse the mechanics of, eat a more realistic number of seed per cycle and less algae, which offsets the correction to their abusable mechanics. You could make several breeding tanks now and still have a single tile drop off for excess eggs, but it becomes an evolution chamber instead of a passive infinity ranch.
Yep exactly, you can also run it as a breeder ranch and then take the extra eggs for omelette or pacu fillet but you would have to supply the food as you say.
@@jAfr0Thunder86 That's not entirely true any more as they can be used to make mushroom quiche, and I have read that the pacu eggs actually give more calories from eggs than the fish now.
Damn I leave this game alone 3 years and when Im back its another game that I have to relearn. Now theses biobots, whats the point if they have limited lifetime..?
Yes, after the spaced out DLC they committed to releasing lots of incremental patches with content so there's been quite a few changes. Hopefully my Content Updates series and Tutorial Bites series will cover all of the changes you might have missed!
One issue I found with the dehydrator is that when it's disabled by automation, dupes will continue loading fresh food into it. But for space missions this is the best way to feed pilots! I got rid of containers and fridges in my rockets and just have a rehydrator and one storage tile. The biobot builder kinda sucks. You can't load him onto a rocket or teleport him, so he only works in your main base. He needs a lot of steel too, so by the time you can make them you don't need them anymore.
Breaking the pacu exploit seems a little late in the game's lifecycle, but thats up to them. However, the Pacu diet was EXCESSIVELY large. Feeding ONE could strip you of all of your algae very fast, keeping a whole ranch... that is a challenge in and of itself
ONI's still a thriving game with lots of people playing it, and the devs aren't planning on stopping new content any time soon so I wouldn't say it's "a little late" in it's lifecycle tbh
You can still feed them seeds. And by mid/late game, you'll have plenty of excessive seeds that you have no other way of removing. Hell, before Klei implemented seeds as fish feed, there wasn't a way to remove excess seeds.
i dont see why people use algaes to feed pacus... i guess im the only one who doesnt excessively ranch them, but i just use my excess bristle blossom seeds
@@alamrasyidi4097 The polluted dirt they excrete is based on the mass they eat, so with seeds it's basically nothing. This is fine if you just want to eat them, but not great if you wanted the polluted dirt for tame pokeshells. So there's still a purpose for it, but it's more specialized.
I don't think that's necessary to be honest. With these dried foods you now have access to better food with the rehydrator if you bring some water so it's now more of a choice.
Berry sludge still better off to use for space food tho imo. And i think they forgot to nerf it lol rehydrate needs water altho it is small amount. But you want that water for toilet tho even if you snake it. I see the dehydrater freeze food and rehydarater microwave food lol. And I have use both of these buildings in spaced out home planetoid and it's not bad. It can sort of be an alternative to deep freeze food ofc only for gas range lol. I'll say the hydrates are good for certain food imo, food like pepper bread are good cause it uses cooking ingredients and ingredients can deep freeze by just being 0 or -1 C much easier to do rather then push for -18+ C for others.
I think either are viable now, and the water consumption on the rehydrator isn't very much. At 1kg per dupe per cycle, you can keep it supplied for a long time with a reasonable amount of water, even including extra for the toilet.
I wish kley would at some point try to fix the exploit and find a new alternative to do things. They managed to do a little with critters to make itba bit more plausible, but it still needs a bit more adjustments. Example is the no germ water that to do this is not by using a building, but a series of buildings and a room full of chlorine.
Tbh, usually, the methods to clear germs out of water, given current Game mechanics and materials. The non-exploity ways are a bit cost heavy in management. Heat Water to kill germs? Energy and space for a water tank will be needed more than just a basic Chlorine Gas chamber for the water resevoirs. Chill to do the same? Space and EVEN MORE ENERGY since that will probably require a TA to provide the heat sapping, and depending on what you will set that TA to make use of the heat, plenty of not so plentiful materials, such as Steel. Radiation? Energy, and making damn sure it's in a contained area, using even more space. When the most cost effective way to deal with Germ infested water is to just make use of the spaghetti in the code to create a simplistic Chlorine chamber, the problem is not exactly going to be feasible, AT ALL, to solve. And again, all this is UP TO THE PLAYER. If you like doing shit the harder, more up to realistic ways, your choice, but cutting off a very Optional exploit just because you don't like it is stupid.
@@andrehashimoto8056 ...wait how is chlorine killing germs part of spaghetti code? That's an intended feature haha @FratoiuAlex Idk about you, but having a dedicated building for removing germs from water would be extremely boring since it's just a "set and forget". At least with chlorine rooms it's a lot more involved. I think it's fine as it is.
Quite frankly, if you don't like how a part of the game works, just don't do it. The game is singleplayer, and other people being able to do what you view as an exploit doesn't affect you, but Klei changing the game to change these things because of complaints affects those of us that don't mind using it.
@@Bzhydack forgot they do that, but it's Spaced out DLC only. For base game, you will need to make use of something to create Radiation, which means investing SOME energy to sustain it. But most other cleaning methods to get the pWater to germ free Water outside the chlorine chamber will require more space, energy or resources than just putting a Water tank to somehow kill the germs in its contents just by being in a room filled with Chlorine gas.
This may well mark the day, I stop bothering to play this game. Was nightmarishly unbalanced in the early days, recently over complicated, and NOW "oh, let me throw you another few new permutations of the logic and physics you didnt get a hint of before"
That's sad to hear. Overall I think the updates they've added have been mostly incremental with relatively few changes to the core mechanics. I think you can mostly still play in the same was as always but you have more options now.
