PaddleTek Bantam TKO & ALW-C Review | More Exciting Than You Think

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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Naming scheme of new paddles
1:41 - The steel beads of the CX models
2:09 - Swing weight, Twist Weight & Specs
3:20 - TKO-CX 12.7mm Thoughts
5:41 - TKO-CX 14.3mm Thoughts
9:10 - Advantages of the TKO-C Models
10:56 - Sweet Spot Size
11:49 - ALW-C Thoughts
14:39 - Build Quality & Design
16:16 - Steel Bead Rattle
17:00 - Great Grit Consistency
17:53 - Closing Thoughts
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@markwenstrom3778 Месяц назад

Your brother needs more airtime. He gave a solid review and has a nice delivery.

@BlGSac Месяц назад

Aizec the goat

@2musiclover534 Месяц назад

About the lifetime warranty, I had multiple contacts with Paddletek to confirm what the 'lifetime warranty' covers. Well, the lifetime warranty covers, in one word, "edgeguard." Here's direct quote from their emails as to what is and is not covered under the lifetime warranty. "Loose or damaged edging on a paddle can cause deadness, vibration, and a funny sound. This can be repaired by applying a new edge guard at no charge under the warranty. The handle break is only warrantied for 1 year. Manufacturer defects. Core damage is considered wear and tear, cracks even, the grit is also not covered." So if you are concerned about edgeguard warranty, it is lifetime.

@amit212543 Месяц назад

Would love to see a Mark one (Kinetic) review as well as J2K and Spartus Apollo. Seem like great budget paddles.

@brianbanks3044 Месяц назад

i have the Mark Kinetic and used it a few days and put it down for my Ruby...it probably needed more weight but head to head with the Ruby, it wasn't that good for me...or not better in any parameter...it is identical in shape but just didn't have it for me

@PickleballCentral Месяц назад

Thanks for the photo creds! Great review as always. - Joseph @ PBC

@svenjorgensonjorgenson709 Месяц назад

How do the power and pop compare to the engage pursuit pros?

@malonepickleball Месяц назад

Love my 12.7 bantam tko CX!

@kris2fur64 Месяц назад

It looks really slapstick the way the put the weights in there. Why metal orbs instead of a plate? Or at least encase the weights in something where it wont shake around over time. I think its great that youre opening up the paddle. This is such a value add for your vids.

@svenjorgensonjorgenson709 Месяц назад

Ready for the Ronbus FX series review.

@folz17 Месяц назад

Got one. It's fine. Very nova like. Nothing amazing. Very playable

@SL-ph4hf 19 дней назад

Very nice reviews of Paddletek's three models! Great job, Chris!!!

@NOT_A_TOP_FAN Месяц назад

It’s mind blowing to me that this paddle…which essentially takes way less time to assemble costs as much as it does. The pickleball moneygrab is so frustrating. These should be $125 MAX paddles.. And yet the profit margins are double that. I fully understand demand sets price, but it still seems so wildly absurd that I can go buy a high end tennis racket for the same price as a sandwich pickleball paddle made of plastic and filler pieces…

@robstever3896 Месяц назад

Lifetime warranty!

@NOT_A_TOP_FAN Месяц назад

@@robstever3896 you would have an argument IF the pickleball tech wasn’t constantly changing… So the reality, is unless it’s a tennis racket which will last you 15 years, a pickleball paddle will be outdated from a tech perspective in a year….

@juliangallo9949 Месяц назад

Yup I agree I got myself a pure areo that racket is a high end racket for a cost of a paddle lol

@DeeTeeHawaii Месяц назад

Howzit 🤙 Nice paddle review. 6:53 It's good to see Hawaii representation in the Pickleball community. Over here in Maui, I haven't seen anyone use Paddletek over the 8 months I've been playing. Since pros like Anna Leigh Waters and Christian Alshon use Paddletek, players should look more into these paddles; especially since the build quality seems good overall.

@chrisgowder9211 Месяц назад

What were the static weights of the paddles you used to calculate swing weight?

@amirsafari5115 13 дней назад

Since sweet spot was an issue on the tko-cx, were you able to improve the sweet spot with lead tape?

@CuriousCreature Месяц назад

Love Isaac! He’s very articulate. Well done.

@HughMungus8 Месяц назад

The putty at the top right at 2:01 looks like an otter holding onto something 😊

@izaan1057 Месяц назад

I'm currently using the power air and have been for a while. I'm looking to transition into carbon paddles as the spray on grit just isn't cutting it anymore. Especially with how expensive selkirk paddles are, I need something with a similar feel but carbon. What would you guys recommend?

@kurt5347 Месяц назад

Hey Chris, great review, thank you! I had a chance to play a game with the TKO-CX 12.7 today and REALLY liked it. It had a great, crisp snap off the paddle face. I also felt like my drops and resets were still soft and controlled. Interestingly enough, I drilled a little bit with the TKO-C 14.3 and did not feel like it was as forgiving or responsive. So anyway, if you’ve read this far, quick question, what were the static weights of the TKO-CX paddles you used? I’d be curious if that would correlate to your others specs (swing/twist weight) compared to what John Kew and Braydon from Pickleball Effect etc got. Thanks again, cheers!

@jaycee154 29 дней назад

I agree. Three weeks with my TKO-CX and I love this paddle. No problems with drops and resets. Excellent power, spin and pop. No control issues and I didn't think the paddle had a small sweet spot. Also got different numbers on my paddle as Chris. At 7.7 oz, my SW was 115, and the TW was 6.79. The paddle does not feel heavy to me.

@AndrewWelk-dd3qq Месяц назад

What’s your opinion on hesacore grips? I saw you using them in the video, which one do you use?

@richardcrawford6287 Месяц назад

Any info if they will come out w/the ALW version in a longer handle anytime soon??

@lexPickle Месяц назад

I enjoyed the elongated Paddletek when I hit with a friend’s today. I have eight paddles, but my game has gone absolutely wild with the Ronbus FX Pulsar R3. I hope you will take some time to play with it…

@rohitvasudeva2801 18 дней назад

Thank you for detailed review. I love your podcasts and videos, very informative. QQ - Does paddletek offer 30 days return policy after I use/try the paddle and return within 30 days or the return policy is for unused paddles only ?

@aslangroudi 13 дней назад

I'm a little confused, the twistweight on the TKO-CX was higher than the TKO-C, so why do you say the TKO-C gives you faster hands?

@deanp.1814 Месяц назад

How do these compare to the Engage Pursuit Pro MX and MX 6.0?

@chanpickleball Месяц назад

Agreed with what Chris said! CX model is better for me (i'm like his younger brother). Only complain is the sweetspot being smaller. Great paddle for a banger like me!

@ar15tac Месяц назад

How would you compare these to the Volare Forza paddles? Seems like they might be similar but more power smaller spot little less? Also when you had the ALC weighted up all the way was the sweet spot ginormous?

@omgpineapple7608 Месяц назад

Does the 12mm cx version also have the steel beads? Or does it use just putty?

@Dy1pickel Месяц назад

How would you compare ALW C to crbn 2X ? Should I just wait for the new crbn ?

@metal_bloo Месяц назад

Will the handle snap though

@miatafunrun3078 Месяц назад

Is the handle length on the TKO-C longer or shorter than the JOOLA Anna Bright Scorpeus 3?

@naten2462 Месяц назад

Haha I use the same lead beads for when I go fishing. They’re lead split shot weights 😂

@sonnynos Месяц назад

I have the alw-c 12mm and just got my tko-cx 12 mm. I love them both!

@gibs4962 Месяц назад

How are the resets and drops compared? I play with the ALW12.7 now- trying to figure out which Tko 12 to order that plays similar.

@sonnynos Месяц назад

@@gibs4962 the biggest difference is that the swing weight is higher with the tko versus the alw-c. I actually took the stock grip off of the tko and added two over grips, to get my swing weight down. Added some thin lead tape at top and sides and my weight is 8.4 ounces. It feels very whippy. Power is not an issue with both. I do love the alw though just because its so much faster at the kitchen. I’m still getting used to the tko but so far, everything seems similar to the alw but with a large swing weight.

@gibs4962 Месяц назад

@sonnynos I have my ALW weighted to 8.3. My Engage Mx is about 8.4, but feels lighter than the ALW. I would think the swing weight would be comparable with the TKO and Engage Pro MX. The Mx wasn't the greatest with resets like the ALW.

@sonnynos Месяц назад

I also been testing out the new standout paddles. One of the original partners of the 6 zero split and formed her own company. I have both the 13mm and 16mm. Good paddles as well. Out of Australia as well but designed in Italy. Check them out

@gibs4962 Месяц назад

@sonnynos I've been eyeing those. How do they compare to ALW? Kevlar combo, correct?

@imK3VBOT Месяц назад

I actually got the TKO-CX 12.7mm in at 7.8oz and had to add 16g of lead to make it swing the way I wanted. And usually I am very sensitive to a head heavy paddle.

@AllDriveNoDropPickleball Месяц назад

That’s a lot of extra weight! How are you liking it now?

@imK3VBOT Месяц назад

@@AllDriveNoDropPickleball super fun paddle, pop is insane, power is there, hands dont feel too slow, handle is a great length for two handed backhands, very stable, great spin, honestly top 3 paddles ive tried this year

@JC-ou8gs Месяц назад

I just saw that a new paddle from six zero is coming. It looks really interesting, I've used other Six Zero paddles, but this looks like exactly what I've been looking for and I wionder if you'll be reviewing it........ It's called the Ruby 14mm

@wolf-xf6hf Месяц назад

How does the 14.3 compare to regular gen 2 paddles namely the hurache

@steve-94951 15 дней назад

Chris, you didn't comment on the handles on these. Being sandwich paddles, are the handles at all reinforced at the throat? or is it easy to snap with use? and are the side panels stiff or squishy?

@scottschaus4619 18 дней назад

Given the PaddleTeks have a smaller sweet spot and dead zones, what paddle do you recommend that is an all-court, leaning power, but with excellent resets and above average control? Thanks! 🙏🏼

@jro937 Месяц назад

I’m thinking they chose ball instead of a tape/rectangle weight because maybe the “give” or space between the balls inside adds to the swing which gives it a little more oomph.

@JovanniG678 Месяц назад

Will you be testing any Holbrook paddles?

@BlGSac Месяц назад

The ALW-C was setup wrong I believe btw, she uses .5g per inch lead instead of 1 gram, it would have come out to around 8.5oz using proper lead weight. How does the 12mm TKO C/CX compare to the Franklin 12mm and the CRBN 1x 12mm

@kimleith1378 Месяц назад

Non thermo and fiberglass will give these some durability advantage I'm thinking. With the "lifetime" warranty is a bonus. That rattle is a bummer. What "peel ply" is PaddleTek using?

@craigcable2982 Месяц назад

When the ALW-C first came out I got one and since I don't play real tournaments I bought a XTP handle extension. This is an awesome paddle. I suggest if someone does not enter ppa sanctioned events this is a great option to get a little longer handle on a standard paddle. Might be cheating but from what I have seen on the podcast as of late it is expected 😅

@xxxg00w0pilot-ku6yx 4 дня назад

What size xtp extension did you use? I have the 12.7 model.

@craigcable2982 4 дня назад

I believe I used the L1 according to my email. This makes the paddle way nicer to use.

@xxxg00w0pilot-ku6yx 4 дня назад

@@craigcable2982 thanks👍

@BenjaminAndersonPickleball Месяц назад

I'm really curious about your thoughts on their Tempest line (even if you just talked about it in a podcast episode). I'm particularly interested in the Tempest Wave Pro-C 14.3 as a control paddle. I tend to prioritize pop, and speed, and sweet spot size over power.

@stephenmoreno5300 Месяц назад

Hi Chris, first of all dude truly enjoy your reviews 100%. I am just curious, Selkirk came out with a Gen 1 and you guys didnt seem like it was worth the $250 price range. So with that being said, seems like the Paddletek is also a Gen 1 but it is worth $230? I mean I get that it is way more powerful than the VC, but we talking about two American made paddles with lifetime warranty and great quality control for the carbon face so far. So just curious about your thoughts on the quality and value of both.

@PickleballStudio Месяц назад

The problem for the Vanguard Control is that there are paddles that can do exactly what it does for half or less than half the price. There aren’t any equivalents to the new PaddleTeks that are in that price range, so I think they are more interesting. I imagine Selkirk and PaddleTek use the same exact raw carbon manufacturer in the US, so the consistency probably applies to both. Similarly, my guess is the Tempest line from PaddleTek probably isn’t a super great value, since it’s targeting that same gen 1 control paddle that the Vanguard Control goes after.

@stephenmoreno5300 Месяц назад

@@PickleballStudio Yeah I was just curious. It makes sense to me. Thanks man.

@cindydarling6315 Месяц назад

How are handles on these? /

@freddievillars2317 Месяц назад

I have seen so many different swing weights for this paddle. The ones previously found were extremely low on the CX 12.7 (116) and your data shows 121..Im confused

@PickleballStudio Месяц назад

It’s probably the difference in the weights we were sent. Mine were about 8.0oz

@dbpickleball Месяц назад

ALW-C is my paddle of choice 👀

@Blodholm Месяц назад

You said the ALW-C 12.7 mm butt cap will eventually be changed out in a month or two. I know you can't be certain as to when the change will happen, but how are we going to know when it actually does? Currently, on the paddletek website it won't allow you to view the butt cap area to know what kind of cap you'll be getting. I'm hopeful that you'll be able to tell us when it's changed so that we can make the purchase. 😊

@therealad4342 Месяц назад

Curious to hear your opinion here! I’m currently playing the gearbox pro power and as much as I love it, my skill and the control is just not there and it’s time to look elsewhere. Curious what you would recommend as I’m looking to keep the power as much as I can but get some control back. Would love to heat your feedback!

@blockchainbaboon7617 Месяц назад

I had a similar experience with the gearbox. I enjoyed the gearbox for months but it was just not forgiving enough. I went with the Six zero black diamond infinity and I love it. It has a lower swing weight, higher twist weight, and larger sweet spot. I lost a bit of power and a quarter inch of reach but it was worth it for doubles play

@therealad4342 Месяц назад

@@blockchainbaboon7617 I ended up going with the new paddletek in this video and it’s unbelievable. I don’t feel like I lost much power and gained so much control. Well worth it

@GaryAu_PB 22 дня назад

@therealad4342 which version did u get?

@therealad4342 21 день назад

@@GaryAu_PB I went with the TKO-C 12.7mm and I love it.

@GaryAu_PB 15 дней назад

@@therealad4342 Thanks, I just received mine yesterday and it felt great to play with. Still learning to control it but my strong points are my soft hand so my drops and dinks are still good, but resets still need work. I'm surprised how forgiving it is

@mathaddicts100 4 дня назад

14:24 Who has the arm tattoo? Chris? Aizec?

@scottlewis1479 Месяц назад

New Tempest Wave Pro missing?

@LouisBrown19 Месяц назад

Thanks for your review. Love the ALW-C 12.7mm.

@Blodholm Месяц назад

Great review! What version of the hesacore grip do you use?

@PickleballStudio Месяц назад

The smaller pink one.

@Blodholm Месяц назад

@@PickleballStudio Thank you!

@jackmoler2469 Месяц назад

Does ALW use the 12.7 or the 14.3?

@PickleballStudio Месяц назад

12.7mm

@Fittyy_ Месяц назад

Are you ever going to review the new Vulcan V1100 or V1200 paddles? Curious how they hold up against today’s competition.

@the_real_deal Месяц назад

Cant get over that twist weight on alw paddle

@jessemorgado1297 Месяц назад

I see you’re using the new Babolat Jet Tere 2. How do you like them?

@rambosfist8657 Месяц назад

I’m between buying one of these and a Shogun. Any ETA for a Shogun review?

@PickleballStudio Месяц назад

Undetermined at this time, but it is high on my list right now.

@rambosfist8657 Месяц назад

Cool thanks!

@jordinkleton 17 дней назад

@@rambosfist8657 What did you end up going with? I was debating between the two and just ended up buying the Paddletek

@rambosfist8657 16 дней назад

@@jordinkleton I got both...haha

@jordinkleton 16 дней назад

@@rambosfist8657 lmaoo respect. What are your thoughts on them

@zacharyalonte8904 Месяц назад

no what’s up guy 😢?

@PickleballStudio Месяц назад

I gotta keep you guys on your toes. 😂

@af02271 Месяц назад

Unsubscribing

@AllDriveNoDropPickleball Месяц назад

What’s up Zach?

@wesn324 26 дней назад

😂

@ruizclan270 Месяц назад

What about the new Tempest TKO-C and Tempest Wave Pro-C? (both 14.3 mm)

@PickleballStudio Месяц назад

This video was focusing on the Bantam like. Adding in another 2 paddles would have made it too long.

@ruizclan270 Месяц назад

@@PickleballStudio Gotcha. Thank you for all your efforts.

@maikuirock8015 Месяц назад

TKO-C, Engage Pro1, or Onix Pro 10?

@douglasmurdoch7247 Месяц назад

The onix isn’t even an option, just take it off the list

@Aaron-mn2ro Месяц назад

love USA made paddles. joola and their chinesium cant even sniff selkirk's or paddtek's jock for that reason alone.

@rusty935 Месяц назад

lol

@jon9134 Месяц назад

Players Pickleball all the way baby

@mathewmccabe2658 Месяц назад

@@jon9134those play like children’s toys. Still on gen 1

@gseacat Месяц назад

They literally put fishing weights in the paddle 😂

@bigdog343 Месяц назад

See if you can get your hands on a proton series one - 15mm - nano tech coating. They’re making some crazy claims. Id like to hear your take.

@blockchainbaboon7617 Месяц назад

I’m interested in the 11mm

@LowDinksHijinxPickleball Месяц назад

00:53 Who the hell did the overwrap job on the Power Air? That's just wrongggg.

@ruulazon Месяц назад

Did I miss the spin specs?

@PickleballStudio Месяц назад

Nope, but I missed putting them in there. 😂 All of the units I tested were in the mid 2000s.

@richhughes5784 Месяц назад

Is that steel or lead? It sure looks like lead fishing weights

@PickleballStudio Месяц назад

They told me steel when I asked. They mentioned not wanting their employees exposed to lead.

@richhughes5784 Месяц назад

@@PickleballStudio check with a magnet? Steel is magnetic, lead is not.

@jon9134 Месяц назад

Definitely looks like lead weights for fishing

@ChinhDucVuong Месяц назад

@@PickleballStudio They're definitely fishing split shot, literally lead 😂😂😂

@DaddyDinksAllDay Месяц назад

That really does look like split shot but by God it's made in America! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

@49pickles Месяц назад

I can buy the 11six24 and the Spartus both for less money. Durability durability durability. I would still want one. Just difficult to justify.

@PickleballStudio Месяц назад

Both are also fantastic paddles.

@DianSusiana98 Месяц назад

It's hard to imagine using the technology of Gen 1 of rackets to achieve the performance of Gen 3.

@dbausch8910 Месяц назад

Sorry if this is a dumb question.. I’m brand new to Pickle ball, do you have a paddle recommendation?

@amit212543 Месяц назад

My fine peel ply DBD seems to really lack spin after a year and I’m thinking about stealing my dad’s less used gen 1 Hyperion 14 for now . I wonder if I’ll notice a much smaller sweet spot. I used to use it before my DBD.

@wpo1956 Месяц назад

brother should be on more

@iugradmark Месяц назад

I feel like the Chinese factories have taken paddle companies down an unnecessary and bad path. If Paddletek and Engage can get power using a different core, that would have been a simpler and more stable way to add power. If done in conjunction with thermoforming you get power with sweet spot benefits. Why haven’t we seen this?

@robstever3896 Месяц назад

"steel weights" look like sinkers for fishing