I like this knot fine but if you slow it down it's identical to the Highwayman's Hitch but tied half upside down & a half twist is added when you finish the bow. The UNDER pass version is in fact the Highwayman's Hitch. I think that one twist weakens the cinch which might be why it slips on you. So funny how there are hundreds of working knots for similar jobs & yet they are all just variations on 4 or 5 total knots. Loops & Hitches & Bends oh my.
You must be a very poor man, probably two of the most expensive things to be doing, as both take so much money to maintain!! 😉 Thanks again for taking the time to have a chat with me.
a strange overlap of professions... I'm the only cowboy sailor I've ever met! lol (at least since Selleck played Rafe in Crossfire Trail) It is secure, but if put under strain can be hard to undo... Very similar in form and function to a "getaway hitch" the knot you are tying I learned as the "Thief's hitch" and I use it for my horse and my fender alike...
@@KnottingKnots Some of us work as sailors and the income can be spent on a horse haha but you're right a horse eats money never mind a boat, love the channel mate you have thought me loads, much love from Ireland!
I was taught this knot as a kid, and was told it was called a Highwayman's hitch - with a story about it being a quick release for a horse when they wanted to make a run for it
Love this knot. Great weight bearing knot. I have used it in the middle of the rope and lowered items to the ground as much as 50 ' below with the standing end. then pull the working end to release and pull up your rope.
Use it to stow away paint buckets, one guy down in the stowing space and me up on deck lowering them down. As long as the working end doesn't snag it's brilliant.
Passing the working end through the last loop is great for smart/mischievous horses that like to suss out different ways of escaping whatever you're using to secure them. Excellent video, as always!
30 years..... i saw an episode of MacGyver where he tied a sea plane up to a dock with a knot that he was able to release with the tug of the working end. and this is the day I figured out what it was. Thank you for making this video.
@@benveach9689 Johnny has the best vids and he's entertaining. I make a folder on RU-vid of saved videos called Favorite Knots, and save the vids and knots I like best to that folder. Handy because you always have your phone with you, Not a Knot book. Lol no pun intended. I don't use knots much but enjoy learning new things, at 75 yrs old. I try to remember one that is most versatile to me, and maybe one more at the most. My all time favorite from Johnny is the Adjustable hitch knot. I use this for over 90% of situations. My next favorite is the Painter's Hitch. I sometimes use both in combination for a particular task. Also, with each knot there are maybe 3 or 4 key elements that are key to tying a good knot. Learn these elements and it will make your life easier.
The bowline knot is used famously at the fire department. But after captain figured out the "painters knot" as you call it. He fell in love. The security makes it handy for hauling small objects upwards towards it be a roof or balcony. and the quick release makes it ideal for fast paced action. Love this knot. It's easy 😊
Fantastic, I love it when someone tells a story of a knot used in anger. I have pinned your post for others to see. I take it then you are more a practical knotter than a decorative one?
Johnny Debt yes sir. I use them in more needed situations as I mentioned before, the department, than just to do it lol. Nothing against that of course 😊
A slipped bowline is as secure and does not constrict, (and if you can only remember one knot in the heat of the moment, then it should be the bowline.) Tie a painter-hitch around a person to raise/lower them and you can crush the air out of their lungs.
I know this as the highwayman's knot. I occasionally use it for a temporary mooring for my dinghy when I'm staying aboard. It is secure if snugged up although I would be cautious using it with slippery line tied around a shiny round-section rail or post. Nerdy fact: in one of the episodes of The Rifleman, Chuck Connors can be seen using this knot, although usually in westerns they just drape the reins over something and pretend it's tied.
There are slight variations to this knot, it also seems to change name from region to region. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
The “Highwayman’s Hitch”...Love it for its simplicity. I”m gonna go out and try using this on a Tree, it should work the same way, only on a Vertical Shaft...
It’s also called a toggle hitch. It was used to secure crew boats, captains gig when I was in the US Navy in the 1970’s. I still use it for tying up livestock here on my farm. The not is as secure as the strength of the line or rope your using. Toggle knot and Double bowline, bowline with a secure knot on the tag end are very secure.
Just stumbled on this video by coincidence, but I really like your channel. ;) Sailor here. I don't know how or from who I learned this knot, but it's the only knot I use and instruct for tying up fenders to the lifelines, while preparing to dock. It's secure because of the weight of the fender on the standing end, while the quick release on the working end enables a quick repositioning and secure it back again really fast.
American cowboy here. Never seen it on a horse, but it works for posts. We usually use a faster knot. There's a ring near the horses left shoulder to keep their lead rope up. To do the easy slip-knot you take your working end and form a bight. Then you put the bight through the ring and twist/turn it 180 degrees. Then you take another bight on your working end and you stick it through the turned bight in the ring. Tighten it up and your good. I've never had it fall out or get stuck galloping or pulling it out. The Painter's Hitch is better for tying up to a post, but there are many other hitches that are not quick release if your horse likes to untie knots. The slip-knot is better for tying up the leader to the shoulder ring, just because I can do it in 1/2 the time.
Oh mate, don't send me to a classroom!!! All my school days I just wanted out, I was lucky as I left school at 16 and had a great time then on. Actually I did some teaching the other day, but it was at a bushcraft school. This was far better than any classroom. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
Excellent. This looks like just the knot I need for a flag unveiling event. The flag is up high on a wall. The loose end drapes to the ground for the guest to pull, and the flag drops away. Thanks.
I know this as the highwaymans hitch, and it was the first knot my dad taught me as a boy. I still use it today to tie up my gate and bin bays at work.
Used it to tie up a horse but were it is really handy is tying up my fishing boat. You can use as long of a rope as you want. I tie up the boat tight and when I want to get in my boat I take the working end with me. These days it takes me a while to get in the boat. I get settled and pull on the working end and I'm a float. The knot has never failed me yet with a horse or a boat. Sometimes the post I tie it too fails but that's not the knots fault. Thank you very much for your excellent videos. Very well explained.
I just learned a highwayman's hitch and noticed a big difference between these two: this painter's hitch one requires some dressing up, checking it's tight all over, and pulling the standing end makes it twist and turn in a way I don't like (with a string/rope that's not very good for pulling things thight through from just the end). This one sort of wants to lean into an angle. The highwayman's hitch on the other hand gets tight just by pulling the standing end and feels very secure when you yank it. I also liked tying the highwayman's hitch way, way more with that annoying piece of rope/string. They are very similar knots however, the only different in tying them up to my eye is the orientation of the ropes. The underhand version of painter's hitch doesn't keep the standing end parallel and the working bight goes through the other side of the loop as a result. This little change seems to make the highwayman's hitch sit much more nicely against the bar and tighten more willingly.
If you are interested in different variations, you may also find the lesser known QTaR Hitch worth looking at: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ypRd8e3VfvA.html
You are correct, putting the loose end through will secure it. Very similar to a falconers knot which you can tie one handed. ( I've been a falconer for 45 years )
It works great in general but I've had the knot invert (2nd bight straightens out and tries to pull the 3rd bight through) a bit and I've found that wrapping the line that forms the 3rd bight around the 2nd bight, then under the standing line before you tuck it into the 2nd bight to form the 3rd bight is quite a bit more secure. Just snug everything tight before you start the move for the 3rd bight. It's a lot easier to do than to describe. Just play around with the hitch variation until it looks right. I'm sure someone already figured this out and has a name for it, I was figuring out a quick release variation for the clove hitch when I saw this painter hitch as a possible alternative solution and I realized I wasn't quite happy with the original version of the painter hitch
As a merchant mariner I used this hitch many times on ships when working aloft or down in tanks and cargo holds lowering tools, paint or buckets of grease. The hitch needs to be cinched up tight and the final locking bight should be left long. And most importantly the working end "or trip line" has to be long enough to reach wherever your lowering to, and care was taken to let it run free and not snag on anything.
I love to hear real life stories of when knots were used in anger. I was a marine engineer and spent many an hour in fuel tanks. The worst job I ever had was to preserve a tank by coating it with grease. From your username, I take it you are a diver?
Cheers mate, very kind of you to say. The only trouble is keeping people interested all the time. Maybe I ought to just do Ashley Book of Knots in the order that he did them. Then if there are any complaints about repetition I can blame him. Got any photos of your work?
It is always good to hear about knots actually being used in anger! The trouble with some knots that I show, I can only repeat what I have learnt through my research. So when someone like you with experience praises a knot, it gives me pleasure to know more about the knot.
I haven't seen that knot for over thirty years. I grew up on a ranch. We had horses that occasionally needed tied up for saddling, shoeing, or vet visits.
Very nice again. Thank you. I use this one as a quick utility knot for hanging stuff up. Very handy as you say. It's not very stable, if you pull hard on the stand it will capsize into something more stable but not a tumble hitch anymore. If, as you suggest, you pass the working end through the loop to secure it, you can still tumble it if you grab the bight of the working end.
This is the only knot we use here in Idaho when we tie our horses in trailer to travel steep bumpy mountain dirt roads if a horse falls down we can quickly release the knot safely from outside the horse trailer... The best horseman's knot around.
Been using this knot to tie horses for many years. Never heard it called painters knot though. I do it differently also. Great demonstration thank you.
There are a couple of versions of this knot with different names. You may be referring to the highwayman's hitch. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Did like it, never used it,never seen it, but i got a feeling i will be doing something with it. What you could do to make this bullet proof is drop a locking loop that you put in your standing end over the last loop you made, job done ,2 loops if your not sure. I do it on a lot of my stuff works like a treat. Works well on an ordinary slip knot. Alex
I have seen this knot before when I was looking for a way to have my boat tied until I got to the consol wheel then remotly release it. By leaving the working end long enough to reach the consol I can achieve this.
Zechariah Demshar this is not a rescue kinda hitch. Its called a painters hitch (as far as I understand) because painters (used to) use it to lift pails of paint up a ladder after they climbed the ladder. Also called a Bankrobbers hitch so the robber has a secure horse and fast get away. For rescue, they are mostly useful to lift/lower tools to another person. The best one for rescue (my opinion) are bowline (learn how to tie one handed, useful if for some reason you are in a river, holding on with one hand, someone throws you a rope, tying a bowline onehanded may be your only rescue) The best one for easy retrieval? An Alpine Butterfly hitch where you can tie the hitch, throw the end over a branch (for example) and feed thru the hitch, pull until tight, use other end to undo. Arbors use them mostly
Hell Travis, thanks for popping over and leaving a comment. In fact, I am quite glad that you mentioned kayak could you take a look at this video and tell me if I am correct? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-f_jOhYD64Ko.html
Great video. This knot is very useful but you must test it’s hold with a given type of rope and anchor point, as it works more securely in certain combinations than in others. I agree with others who do not rely on this knot for dynamic load situations.
Yes! My father used this knot all the time securing anything to a roof rack. Mr. Whenever binding a roll ie tents or tarps. Much better than a shoelace box.
I use it all the time to tie up my horse. I like the way it comes free. So many knots used to tie up horses put the rope through the ring etc. They do not come free as easily.
I typically use a bowline for towing, since most boats have cleats the painter hitch has mostly fallen out of use in my part of the US. Asked my horse - friendly people and they use a different method because smart horses (and smart dogs too) will figure out how to untie themselves unless this knot is locked. So I suppose this one will fade away like the slippery bowline did with campers. Curious squirrels appear to be the issue with that one, although raccoons can also be the issue. Usually noted as your tarp falls down and a very surprised squirrel is spotted scampering away from the end of your ridgeline that suddenly came undone...
I've used this mainly to hitch up my dog - sometimes tying directly to her collar. If you snug the knot down well, it holds, especially tied in paracord.
I really think passing the working end through the hole and cinching it down makes it a somewhat reliable knot. And maybe instead of right across the front, turn the end around the back and through the hole. I like it. Good video.
Very nice and easy knot...check out the Siberian Hitch too, is very quick and just as easy to untie. This one requires a couple of tucking of the loops or bytes..in the Siberian Hitch its a bit faster.
I use this knot to tie my dog leash to a rail if going into the store for a minute or two. I also use this knot for tying fenders to railings and to quickly secure a skiff to a dock as well as tools, buckets, and also for lashing a ladder to a pole or tree. As far as the knot slipping I avoid slick ropes and lines like the plague and prefer ones made of natural fibers better.
Canoeing and the like I use it a lot. Fairly secure for tying on to the bank or for when you are towing a tired paddler. Mainly in both cases I use it as it is quick to release. This is important when towing a tired paddler. Particularly useful in a Kayaking where I end up towing more often. I have never had it slip on me but the rope does make a difference. And you can generally tell once you have tied it with a tug if it is good enough or not. I use it all the time for temporary holding. Even use it for bags and nets when scuba diving. But not for things like tying down a load on a trailer etc.. only something you are going to generally be able to monitor.
I tried tying this on a rail with some slippery 3/8" nylon rope. I found that I could give several sharp tugs in different directions and could undo this knot quite easily, even if I put a good long loop in the final step with the working end. My conclusion is that it would be a good knot for fairly static loads, (hauling buckets, or gear upwards) but I would never trust it for a moving load like a boat, or an animal.
It would appear that others who have commented here and elsewhere, suggest that this knot is better with a natural fibre cord. Cheers for taking the time to comment and also report your results here. I have now pinned your post for others to see also.
I agree. I would not use it for an unattended boat. It relies on the rope itself being quite grippy (e.g. natural fibres) and being ted round something that isn't too slippery, and then not being subject to lots of variable forces. It is a useful knot within these constraints, and great fun.
A great knot for things that aren't too risky/unsettled. We would use it with canoes a lot in the wilderness, but I'm not sure I'd use it for my dinghy to get back to the yacht after a night at the bar in the windwards... I'd use it for beached dinghies, canoes, other low flight risk, objects.
I use this knot to tie my plane down when I hand start it. Working end is really long to go inside the cockpit, once the engine is started and I'm ready to taxi and takeoff, I pull the working end and done. Use it darn near every day.
Being raised a cowboy & horse trainer since the 50's this is the knot most used to tie horses. Colts can get rank, through fits, others can spook & get in trouble & you can release them quickly. We always used bowline around the neck even w/ a halter on those unschooled type of horses as halters will break. On the other hand dinks that nibble can untie themselves. For the nibblers add more bites/loops as in a daisy chain. REPLY
Absolutely superb!! Thank you so much for sharing real life situations involving knotting. Also interesting to hear about the Bowline. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
I have found that a great number of knots are known by different names from region to region and then even more when it comes to other countries. I am sure that you find that also with some of your everyday stuff too?
Hi my name is Ralph Costello, From South Wales, in the uk. The knot is also known as the bank robbers knot, because of its quick to release, and yes i still use this knot on my boat. Ralph.
Thank you so much for popping over and leaving a comment. Yes, some knots do change name from county to county and even more so when in other parts of the world. Are you a practical or decorative knotter?
Great demonstration! This knot is very helpful! So, on video U tied two schemes with a small difference, I usually use the last one. So cool, cause it quick-release)
To make the knot more secure, now that the knot is tied, take the standing end and make a fold over loop and pass it over the working end and tighten. Now the knot is more secure and still unties easily with a tug on the line.
@@ephraimgarrett4727 Funny story, when my father was in the Army (thousand years ago) one of his jobs was to file the toenails of elephants. He was an Royal Engineer and they used the elephants to haul stuff about.
A painter is a rope that is attached to the bow of a dinghy, or other small boat, and used for tying up or towing. Ideally, the length of the painter should be no longer than the length of the boat, especially on small craft, to prevent fouling the propeller of an outboard engine. Painter (rope) - Wikipedia
Highwayman’s hitch, aka: Bank Robber’s hitch. I’ve never used a horse to rob a bank, so I can’t attest to that. Seems likely thought. I have used it to tie off a skiff. It’s awesome for that. It can be used to leave your skiff on your mooring or to tow behind your other vessel. When the hitch is properly dressed it tightens as the standing part takes a strain. It is therefore very reliable. Yet it releases quickly and cleanly with a good tug on the tag end no matter how much strain it has endured.
More secure than the highway man's hitch! Would use this or highwayman's for securing Canoes in Western Australia Kimberly region. A great quick knot, but don't use it for anything safety critical or long term. Painter hitch capsizes less easily than highwayman's hitch, for sure.
interesting knott i put a toggle were quick release loop pull the same quick release tighten her. on the main line i played with it. shes secure tight. thnks good video
I think the under-the-bar version is nearly identical to the Highwayman’s Hitch, only the last bight is passed thru the second one in the opposite direction. I found that in Czech this one is called the Firefighter's hitch. The firefighters use it to climb down from somewhere along the standing end, then release the rope from below by tugging the working end. Don't know it it's true though, I wouldn't bet my life on this knot.
There is also a similar story form Vietnam of American soldiers escaping down a cliff, they used the Sheep Shank. Not sure I would use either. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Yes, a number of people have said that to me, but I learnt this one as the Highwayman's Hitch: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xN2wdp0Wvj8.html I take it that you are a practical knotter? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
I found that with slippery paracord; this doesn't work so well; so I simply made a fourth bite with the working end; and that seemed to hold solid. You can still pull the working end; and everything comes undone.
I have just found another knot that is not dissimilar and looks just as easy. I am currently asking people what the name of this knot is, but nobody knows. It is located here if you are interested: facebook.com/groups/403716083155503/permalink/878218795705227/
Great Knot ! Also..Sometimes when my hand is the middle of a Long line on both sides and you need to tie a not fast and easy I usually do this nice and simple knot.
The Yanks call it a highwayman's hitch. It was used by bank robbers in the getaway because they only had to grab the reins and jump on the horse. With leather reins, the knot is pretty stable. With a rope, it tumbles apart too easily to be stable, but it's ok for a quick hitch. It works OK with hemp rope.
If I recall they are very similar................. you often find also that some knots change their name from region to region and also country. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
@@KnottingKnots I've noticed the same thing. Sometimes there are just minor variations that are almost indistinguishable. From what I've seen, most knots have multiple names and pronunciations.
