Palmeiras vs Corinthians | Paulista Derby: Brazil's Biggest Rivalry? (Roots of the Rivalry) 

FUN FACT: There are 2 metro stations in opposite sides in São Paulo City. PALMEIRAS Barra Funda (from the west side) X CORINTHIANS Itaquera (from the east side). These two stations are next to their Stadiums. How you can imagine, it really was a problem when in days of matches, because the Torcidas Organizadas(something similar, but also different in some aspects, to the European Ultras or Argentinian Barra Bravas), use to fight in the Metro. So, the São Paulo city government decide to enforce a law that prohibit matches from Palmeiras, Corinthians or São Paulo(they also love brawling) at the same day in the city. Also, when they play against each other, only the Home fans can go to the stadium.

Nice video! Some contributions, from a Palmeiras supporter: 1) This topic about some founders left Corinthians to found Palestra Italia is not a true, it is like a myth. There is no Corinthians' founders among Palmeiras' founders. Just check on official websites and you can make sure of it. This myth started because some players who have played at Corinthians, have played at Palmeiras in the earlier years; 2) Another myth is about Corinthians is the 'people team' and Palmeiras is rich. Palmeiras have been founded by italian workers in São Paulo city, just like Corinthians have been founded by workers. In the beggining, both has almost the same origin, of course respecting some details. I think this was the roots of this rivalry. Palmeiras had some support by Matarazzo Family at the time, is true, but it was concepted by italian workers. Palmeiras' money came from nowadays when Palmeiras organized itselft to be a strong club financially; 3) Palestra Italia (Palmeiras) helped Palestra Italia (Cruzeiro) to be founded. Actually, Palestra Italia (Palmeiras) had inspired Palestra Italia (Cruzeiro), as so that the Palestra Italia's Statute (Palmeiras) was used by Palestra Italia (Cruzeiro) to be your own statute as a model to be followed. But there is no friendship between two clubs anymore, after a huge fight between two main firms of these clubs in 1988. Look at this link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-677Q5FoaVwM.html . After Mancha Verde's president (Palmeiras' biggest firm) being killed some days before the match, Cruzeiro's fans mocked about his death on Palmeiras' stadium, in a match between two clubs. Mancha Verde didn't accepted that and almost killed Cruzeiro's fans who were disrespectful. After this episode, there wasn't any friendship between old italian clubs.

The problem with Corinthians and Palmeiras rivalry is that they have a lot of other rivals at the same state and different states that dilutes the animosity between the two clubs. There is also São Paulo and Santos in the same state and Flamengo now is a strong rival. This is like in Manchester where Rio Ferdinand says Liverpool is a bigger rival than Manchester City. The rivalry with the most irrational hatred for each other I think is Grêmio and Internacional. They are from the same city and doesn't have other rivals beside each other so they can't bear each other.

Finally another roots of rivalry it's been a while!

The "bourgeoisie" club is São Paulo F.C. Palestra Italia consolidate itself in terms of popularity by being the italian working class club and after Palestra became Palmeiras in 1942 it growed to the be the third most popular club in Brasil until the late 90's.

Correction: O'Higgins de Rancagua is probably named after Bernardo O'Higgins, one of Chile's founding fathers.

Have you done one for kaizer Chiefs vs Orlando pirates in South Africa, would be interesting for you to do 👆🏽

So I am central European I very much love the sport of football or in English or in America what you guys call soccer. I will say without any hesitation that some of the world's best football players in the world's best football players in the world come from the country of Brazil one of my favourite soccer clubs in the world on a International level come from Brazil the Corinthians!!!! I've always appreciated football on a more local level and I feel that local soccer clubs are some of the most interesting life experiences that you can experience. So I have to soccer clubs that I love the most when is Legia Warsaw Which in the case of the country of Holand is the best soccer club in the country and has been systematically number one for many years now. On a International scale I love Brazil I love South America in general but Brazil in particular and the Corinthians soccer club to be very specific. When I watch the FIFA World Cup and team Brazil is playing I will only root for them I will be a fan only of team Brazil because some of the world's best players in the world come from Brazil. And to be honest in very Blunt about it the most entertaining games that I have ever watched was when team Brazil wipe the floor of any team that they come across. So I guess this is my way of sending love and respect to the country of Brazil I love your culture I love your people and I love how you guys play football it is truly amazing and thank you for this amazing life experience.

Please, do a LISBON ROOTS OF THE RIVALRIE: SPORTING-BENFICA! THE SEGUNDA CIRCULAR DERBY DESERVES A VIDEO!!!!

"Arranca-rabo". How to translate that? Hahahaha "Agressiviness" doesn't do justice to it's beaty. (It can be roughly translate as ripping out some tails)

The combination of research, creativity, clarity, humour and chillness really makes Rabona one of the funest and most interesting channels on all YT. Really appreciate the content Adrian!

Man i was waiting for this video since i watch first Roots of the Rivalry

Woohoo finally a Brazilian one

I’ve been waiting for this derby documentary Adrian! - Tactical manager’s editor right here 👍🏽🟢

Palmeiras 💚 > Corinthians , just had to make that clear.

My driver in Brazil is a member of Palmeiras.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING BRAZILIAN CLUB FOOTBALL THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES! Amazing video Avanti Palestra! 4x0 hahahahahah CHUPA GAMBÁ

Essa rivalidade será eterna.

Palmeiras from Japan 🇯🇵💚🤍💚🤍💚🤍🐷

Great video, man! Just came to update the numbers for you. Yesterday Palmeiras destroyed Corinthians by 4-0, so now it’s 129 x 128 victories to Palmeiras ;)

Another great Roots. Been awhile. I still think the greatest rivalries have to have socio economic or cultural aspects with Buenos Aires (economic) and Glasgow (cultural) being two of the most well known. Still, love the Roots of the Rivalry episodes! Keep them coming

I wanna see a porto and Benfica, roots of the rivalry video.

This is the best rivalry in Brazil! My team Corinthians, against Palmeiras, love watching the rivalry games, and finally glad that this video was made

3:03 That’s wrong, it’s called O’Higgins because the main guy from our independence was named O’Higgins. But we do have english named clubs, like Everton de Viña del Mar or Santiago Wanderers from Valparaiso (two rival clubs actually)

Great content!!! Avanti Palestra!! 💚🤍

Palmeiras fan from Morocco🇲🇦🇲🇦💚💚

*scoppia che la vittoria è nostra* *AVANTI PALESTRA* *PALMEIRAS MEU ÚNICO AMOR* 💚🇮🇹💚

Biggest classico of Brazil and one the biggest in the world along with BocaxRiver BarçaxReal Madrid MunxLiverpool etc..this year theres a chance of a Corinthians x Palmeiras in the libertadores finals that would be the biggest game in the history of both teams!!! I hope this happens, it would be huge!!

Here because of tactical manager TV 🟢🟢 awesome video! I have been waiting for something like this

Brazil is the home of football, the paradise of the beautiful game.

That's by far one of the biggest rivarly in the world. It began in the past sentiry without those teams even playing against each other.

U should also make rotr about national teams (Argentina v Brazil or England v Germany) I feel like there has been videos about it but I wanna see your input

unexpected Liverpool (Montevideo) cameo, here's hoping someday you'll talk about Uruguayan football in a video! Maybe a roots of the rivalry Nacional - Peñarol, who knows...

Came back after the 4x0

I swear to god i googled "greatest football players of all time" and found this video.

For those who were interested in knowing which of the two clubs is bigger, Corinthians has 2 FIFA Club World Cups and Palmeiras has none ... GO CORINTHIANS ⚫⚪

3 days later of the video, Palmeiras veat Corinthians for 4-0 in Allianz Parque (Palmeiras stadium) for Brazilian League

Futebol is brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷 Awesome colab with Tactical manager TV! I would like to see more of these videos in the near future

Amazing video. Truly amazing. I think we could also add that there were some opposing moments of local and national dominance between the two teams. I'd say that a moment of parity (at the top) between the two clubs would truly only come in the '90s and quite recently - in the modern era of football ranging from the '50s till today Corinthians in the '50s Palmeiras '60s and '70s Corinthians in the '80s (kinda. Both were bad. Palmeiras worse) Corinthians '00s Add to that the major encounters during both clubs draughts (Corinthians from 1955-77 - with the mythological 74 Paulista final and the sad end of Rivelino's tenure at the team; Palmeiras 1976-93 at a final against Corinthians, winning 4-0), and the rivalry gets even bigger. The class thing is real. It's an underlying cause, but it is something real. I'd say it never comes to a rhetorical forefront, but you can sense in the language of chaos between fans that it is acknowledged. Consider that some of these Italian families would later form the basic structure of São Paulo's middle class, and eventually, this middle class - some of them - would absorb the team identity of "defense" that is often connected to them. BTW, this is kind of a reproduction of the "colony" mentality that old Palestra Italia once had, that eventually wore off, and only kept the NOTION of defense of AN identity, not the national Italian identity. I do believe that a good chunk of Japanese and Arab communities would later adopt Palmeiras as a hometeam due to that. Corinthians had this rhetoric of "the team of the people" for long, but after the population Boom of the '50-'70s due to internal migration (The biggest industrial hub of the country at the time), most of the poor migrant population that came to the city turned into Corinthians fans. Make no mistake, they have a HUGE demographic advantage. Massive. I'd say that their fanbase is larger than Flamengo, especially for not having "mixed" fans (Fans that root for a local team elsewhere in the country + one of the majors). Which is funny for they always had this economical disadvantage against Palmeiras until late '90s, early 2000s. A little bit of economic development, and a change of focus towards an internal market-consuming society, turned this demographic advantage into a massive corinthians economic boom. Until the horrible conundrum with their home stadium (BTW, they were kind of "homeless" for a long time), they were keeping a good administration of massive financial resources.

Great stuff man. I hope you do more South American rivalries someday.

It's not even close. Inter and Gremio, Fla-Flu, none of them even approach it. When I lived there it was incredible what happened when they played. The stories I could tell...

could u do a look ahead on the copa libertadores final between santos and palmeiras please

AVANTI PALESTRA 🇮🇹🐷🇳🇬😃🏆🇳🇬AQUI É PALMEIRAS 🇮🇹🐷🇳🇬

VAI CORINTHIANS ! Palmeiras doesn`t have FIFA Club World Cup

CORINTHIANS THE BEST IN BRAZIL 🏁🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🏴🏳

Legendary rivalry. Great video. Please more rivals! Also: could you do a video on why football is such a religion-like phenomenon in South America to a point where they escalate hard on the pitch, fights and emotions. Would be interesting to know.

Um Brazilian and been following The Chanel for a good while now, dint expect this one at all. Thanks for showing some love for The Brazilian football. We aprecciate It.

Palmeiras doesn't have a Club World Cup.

Palmeiras❤

Awesome video, as a Brazilian and a Palmeiras fan I really enjoyed it, Congrats!!!

Without Crefisa palmeiras would be like Vasco Da Gama.

Oh you like my badge? I heard you can get them if you become a member of Rabona Tv :O

Coming here Just to remind everyone that, Palmeiras não tem Mundial

do one for independiente and racing club have a history of rivalry

Word class paulista Derby documentary. How were you able to bring many iconic names from south american soccer to your channel?

Peñarol and Nacional need to have a video

I am so happy you are talking about the Biggest Derby in the country as a Corinthians fan I always wanted a few of my favourite football RU-vidrs to talk about this thank you Adrian really I would love to speak more about the derby for anyone who is watching any doubts you have

A part of the story that is missed is why there was a team called Corinthians in England. In Scotland there was a team formed called Queens Park which had the majority of the Scotland team in it and therefore they played together every week and got comfortable with playing with each other. Scotland beat England in a lot of the early internationals because of this familiarity the players had built up. England decided they needed their own Queens Park team which is how Corinthians came to be formed and had most of the English team playing together each week what allowed then to become familiar with how each other played and England started to compete and beat Scotland

Italy runs the sport on the two major continents

Vai Corinthians!!! Best classic of Brazil

I think that to simplify darbies in the city of São Paulo, it's easiest to refer to the "darby Paulista" as a triple way darby between Palmeiras, Corinthians, and São Paulo FC. While Palmeiras and Corinthians notoriously dislike each other, both see São Paulo as the enemy. Historically São Paulo has always been seen as the go-to middle and upper classes club. Basically, São Paulo is such a large city it supports three large clubs, all of which despise each other (though the different clashes are referred to by different names).

GreNal is way more interesting than this rivalry in Brazil, and it was already noted as one of the biggest rivalries in WORLD FOOTBALL!!

What about the Manchester United/City rivalry?

These are some of my favorite vids you make man. Always excellent. A suggestion for another one if you would please consider a Kaiser Chiefs vs Orlando Pirates roots of the rivalry. South African football fans are extremely passionate and the history of these clubs are very interesting considering they are both in Soweto.

Vai Corinthians ⚫⚪⚫🦅

Please do the fk sarajevo vs zeljeznicar derby

Corinthians>>>>>>>>

I had to drop the like and the sub with this welcome form Kelbão! What a legend

Vaiiii Palmeirassss 💪💪💪

In 2023, Corinthians has a bigger revenue than Palmeiras. Corinthians has R$ 937 mi (US$ 180 mi) of revenue and Palmeiras makes R$ 927 mi (US$ 172 mi), but.... In 2023 season, Palmeiras win the (state championship) Paulistão, the Brazil's Supercup, the (national championship) Brasileirão, and also achieve the round of four in the Libertadores Cup for the 5th time in a row, but in that year, Corinthians fight to survive. Corinthians its actually wealthier than Palmeiras, their fan base is almost 2 times bigger, but Palmeiras is better in terms of management. That's why the "Paulista Derby" is no longer even.

Finally

Corinthians is the last world champion team. No brazilian team can win the World Cup teams against europeans teams slnce 2012.

Aqui é Palmeiras!!! Avanti Palestra 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬

O Maior Campeão 💚🤍

PALMEIRAS, MAIOR CAMPEÃO DO BRAZIL!

Well historically the derby is the biggest rivalry, but for the last 20 years the most disputed games are against São Paulo FC… I mean just watch a game from any of these teams against São Paulo and then watch a derby and you will see difference. Corinthians or Palmeiras vs São Paulo is like a life and death match. Corinthians vs Palmeiras is more like old rivals respecting each other.

Great job Adrian! You have grown so much since I started watching, to think you just interviewed renato abreu about a derby he played in while a year ago you were only telling stories of news and speculating. Hats off, seriously!

Bernardo O'Higgins was a Chilean Independance leader born in Chile. But nice try. The Irish migrated to Chile long before football did Not a severe criticism, but just pointing out O'Higgins has nothing to do with an homage to the Brits

Next time: The history of Club de Foot Montréal

Updating: Palmeiras 132 x 129 CurinthiANUS Go Palmeiras!

Incredible video ! Recognize the work that must have to be put into these!!

How were you able to contact Chicão?

Palmeiras is not a bourgeoisie club. Palmeiras is seen as wealthy nowadays because of their own management merits, Corinthians has way more supporters and earns a lot more from sponsors, TV, etc. But they're incompetent.

Please do Soweto derby

And now the NFL has the packers and eagles, both teams with green the same color if their most intense rivals playing there. Im scared for the American fans that wear green there and dont know about the color green ban there. The NFL fucked up with this 🤦🏿

Great video dude!! and GO VERDÃO!!!

Um grande erro não mencionar o porquê do apelido de porco. O respeito pelo derby se dá pelo número de confrontos e, consequentemente, pela rivalidade. Mas, a natureza dos clubes são muito distintas.

Corinthians is Brazil's most hated team even with huge fan base. The late 90s Corinthians had the sponsorship of Hicks- Muse which garnered them 2 national titles & a World Club Cup. Brazil's biggest rivalry is the Gre-Nal. The gaucho rivalry almost equivalent to the Boca - River rivalry.

This is why Italy is the best footballing nation. The Argentinian, Uruguayan, and Brazilian national teams all have around 30-65% players of Italian percent. Add that on to the Italian national team and it is clear.

Alan Shields Hamilton South Lanarkshire. Right Kemosabe ( My Friend ) You need to understand something you clearly do not understand English & British is not tje same thing. It was The British not The English that gave football to the world many Scot where involved in developing the game we know as football if it was not for us Scots the game would be more similar now to the sport of Rugby Union not Football as we know it today. We basically started early on what would later become known as total football pass & move where in England it was more a game of kick & then rush after the ball. Charles Miller is credited as being The Father of Brazilian football his father was from North Ayrshire in Scotland not far from the town of Largs his mother was of Brazilian Anglo descent as in born in Brazil to English parents. He played for & against Corinthians now Corinthians Casuals ( London ) he also played for Southampton Saint Mary's now just Southampton when he was sent to Southampton to study. When he arrived back in Brazil he brought football's with him his Parents being well off it was his suggestion Corinthians now Corinthian Casuals come over to Brazil, & tour & my understanding it was his suggestion Corinthians Paulista tuse the name Corinthians after the club they had just watched play. (It was not just The English but British people that took the game to the rest of the world know your history & geography Adrian ) 😡😡😡😡.

Another amazing RabonaTV video! In other news the sky is blue 😤

My great grandfather played for Sao Paulo

Palmeiras🇧🇷

Incredible work yet again from Rabona TV! Love the content.

I love your roots of the rivalry series please do more roots of the rivalry ❤️

Alright, now do Fla x Flu next.

Can you please do the Fla/Flu RotR? I thought you already did

but nothing like River vs Boca 🇦🇷

Bro could you please do a video on Gerrard's Rangers, they just beat Celtic and are leading the prem this season!

Flamengo vs Vasco is known to be way bigger than Fla-Flu