Panasonic G7 vs G85 - Is the G85 worth the extra money? 

Awesome, thanks Danny.

You nailed it.

Awesome, glad you liked it!

TokyoJoVlogs Whoa! That's so awesome to hear! Cool to see you're just about to crack 10k subscribers!! Way to go man. Camera looks great. Are you using a Gimbal, too?

Cool! Make sure you check out my settings videos for vlogging!

Oohh I will have to, I was messing with the camera yesterday and was overwhelmed with all the buttons and settings. My last Camera was a Nikon Coolpix P90, different world! Thank you again for giving me confidence in making this purchase.

You're welcome Lance!

You’re most welcome! Thanks for commenting!

leaning toward 85

+Jason Grover Yes you are! :)

Awesome - glad it helped!

Thank you so much 👍

+Emily Johnson Awesome! You're most welcome.

+Tri Thanh Nguyen You’re most welcome

MoonbearDiedHere hero 7 looks like the vlog king atm, that would be my next combo. Currently have g7, strongly considered ax53 though

@@albertoflores3688 I never heard of the Ax53. I'll look it up. I'm going to ride out both cameras til they're unbearable before I upgrade though and keep my eye out for anything that competes with this combo in the future.

+Sugarless Yeah, glass and lighting make a way bigger difference. And then just practicing a ton. Amazing cameras for so cheap!

Where can you find it under $600 in Canada? I'm having trouble finding that price.

Good stuff. . Cheers man

Thanks, Seth. I had/have a Rode SmartLav+ which isn't quite as nice as the Sennheiser, but still good. It's just lost somewhere around here and I keep hoping to find it. I'm going to buy another one soon because it's been months. I mean, a wireless Sennheiser kit would be amazing, but they're close to $1000 here in Canada.

Justin Reves - hmmmmm, that's crazy. You can buy a great Senn lav for $500 here in US. we need to get you this asap. Worthy audio must match the content being communicated.

+EZCompany Gaming & Collectibles I love answering the crap out of questions 😂😂😂

That's awesome. G7 is an amazing camera.

You got it. Coming soon.

Justin Reves thank you!

Avinash is the video already out? Can't find?

Alex 1407 not yet :)

Kaysha Yeah, if you have the money for sure! But a lot of times, the best gear can be a crutch too for not pushing yourself. It's always easier to buy new basketball shoes than it is to put in a bunch of time in the gym.

Agreed. Especially in the times of incremental updates. In the end, the tools won't make the talent or the craft experience

+Zalaki G7 is still great! Tech is always going to keep changing. Master the G7 and in a year, you can pickup the replacement for the G85.

Thank you!

+I'm Chris Luke yeah, mic jack placement is annoying. Real annoying. Don't understand why they couldn't have just put it where it is on the GH4.

GH4 at 4k/24fps 100mbps with the 7-14mm. Great combo :).

+Justin Reves Is the G85 a better camera than the GH4??

You'll figure out the G7. The GH5 is waste of money for people starting out - you'll get much better quality by learning the camera and applying the right lenses for the right situation. And thanks for the kind words!

Stabilization is nice, but good lenses are even nicer.

Yup! You know it.

I never noticed a difference in image quality between the two. I still have a G7 for a live cam but use it the odd time for recording and it’s still excellent.

And... Thanks! Awesome video!

e1darie1 Sony's focus is better for sure. But no flip out screen on the a6300 or in-body stabilization.

Subbed. Btw. Lol

Nekojitablog Depends. If I was making videos for RU-vid, I wouldn't buy a GH4. Can't use all the extra data in those high bitrates. The GH4/G7/G85 all shoot the same data rates for 4K. So I'd pick the G85 because the IBIS is sweet. But if you were making films for the big screen, the GH4.

Justin Reves thank you very much!! I think we will go for the g85. Your vlogs and tech talks tell so much good info!!

lol Ernesto no sabia que siguieras a justin , me he quedao flipanding. Aquí un apunte por si a alguien le sirve antes de comprarse la g7 o la g85. En el caso de estas camaras de lumix tienen dos versiones , aunque no estoy del todo seguro de la g85, dependiendo la region de venta (PAL y NTSC). En teoria la version PAL es mejor ya que si comprimes(en el caso de NTSC) 30fps a 100mb, 1frame=3.33mb (no es demasiado realmente) Mientras que la version PAL son 25 fps a 100mb asi que 1frame=4mb, eso se traduce en mas informacion , mas rango dinamico y menos ruido en condiciones de menos iluminacion. Entonces, PAL seria mejor para video mientras que NTSC seria mejor para slowmotion y tampoco tendrias restriccion de grabacion de 30 min (aunque si nos ponemos a pensarlo ¿quien graba secuencias de 30min?) Una cosa que si es realmente mejor en esta version (NTSC) es cuando quieres usar el 4k para pillar un frame de él(jpeg), asi que tendrias mas frames donde elegir y mas probabilidad de pillar un frame nitido y enfocado. Asi que si por ejemplo yo que soy de Europa quisiera comprar la version NTSC podria hacerlo desde digamos www.bhphotovideo.com , pero tendria un cambio de la fuente de alimentacion y tendria que pagar ~200EUR en taxas (mereceria la pena? yo diria que no) mejor invertir ese dinero en un speedboster o algo por el estilo. En el caso de japon no estoy seguro de que version se vende (intuyo que la NTSC , ya que panasonic tiene la sede central en Osaka aunque npi, habria que informarse mejor) Yo estoy pensando en pillar la version PAL de la g7 para grabar cortos de la universidad y demas. Tendria mejor frame rate para slowmotion , aunque 30 fps de slowmotion tampoco es demasiado bueno realmente. En las salas de cines tan solo se usan 24fps :/ Por cierto , siento el tochaco x) Espero que sea de utilidad a alguien! Saludos desde Malaga !

Nekojitablog You are SO welcome! All the best on your channel - I see a gold play button on the very near horizon. 👊👊👊

Nekojitablog Also, I REALLY wish I spoke Spanish so I could follow along better. Looks you guys have a lot of fun!

The big struggle with Panasonic cameras is their autofocus isn’t the best. If it were me, I’d be looking at the Canon M50 - fantastic for video and photos. Wasn’t a thing when I made this video way back! Love it: geni.us/jrevesCanonM50

That's really what it comes down to. If you don't need 4K or wanting to use it with some livestreaming like RU-vid or Facebook Live, the 80D is killer. But a lot of filmmakers don't use autofocus which is why the GH4 is so popular. The internal stabilization in the G85 is pretty cool, too - not quite a gimbal but it makes for much smoother run & gun. If you know you're going to be doing a ton of autofocus, snag the 80D - there's absolutely no reason you can't tell a good story with it - especially if you're not a serious professional.

Thx! I'm purchasing g85 finally!

I'm stuck as well. My Canon t5 shoots amazing quality; however there is no video autofocus. Will I be disappointed by the g85 continuous auto focus vs 80d. An 80d on a gimbal would provide amazing 1080 video. Arguably cleaner than the g85 4k.

+Fresh New Tech Great price for the body. I don't know what you paid for the G7 but if you've got the budget, do it. It's just my advice for people who are so tight on cash they couldn't afford a couple better lenses.

Yeah, I can!! In fact, check my channel. 2 or 3 videos ago, I have recommendations for a vlogging kit for under $1000 that will do all of that. And then it's just a matter of practicing, but with that kit, you can get some GREAT video!

Have you upgraded the firmware on both the camera and lens to the latest?

At that time only lens firmware the latest but body firmware still not upgraded. Did you notice any different when upgrading body firmware?? Hope yes coz till now there no chance for me to test the camera, since iam seen only minor changes in the newest firmware for the body

+KWABENA OPOKU ACHEAMPONG Yes, all of those are great. Just pick one you like and start shooting. Don't get caught up reading too many reviews. Just buy and shoot.

with an external mic, audio is awesome. even something simple like the videomicro!

For a beginner, I’d have to recommend the Canon M50 over these. Really easy to use and the autofocus on it is so so good. That’ll be a problem on either one of these. Check it out: geni.us/jrevesCanonM50

If you want to be safe, get the G85 and weather sealed lens. G7 might be fine but all depends on the conditions. If it's super humid or it gets wet, it's a risk.

Just get a Rode VideoMicro and then use the money you saved to try and get a 12-35 f/2.8 or 7-14mm f/4 for vlogging.

For photo or video?

@@JustinReves Just for video. From what I can find the best options are m50 or g7 for me, unless you know of another camera for around the same price range that work rock my world?

The m50 autofocus is wayyyyy better and it's a BEAST of a little camera. Check out this video I shot ENTIRELY with this camera. It's incredible what you can do with it! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D5k04kwLie4.html

I get asked this a lot and unfortunately I haven't used the 14-140mm yet. People say it's great. I'm skeptical because of how long that zoom range is in such a small package, but it's probably just fine. I like the extra width of the 12mm on the 12-60 and really like the way my images have turned out on it. The 7-14mm is my favourite lens because of how crazy it makes stuff look and how wide it gets. I also love the primes. The 15mm 1.7 is currently my favourite prime but the 25mm 1.7 or 1.4 are great as well as the 42.5mm 1.7. If you need an all-arounder, the best is the 12-35mm f/2.8 then grab the best longer zoom you can afford ontop of that. 100-300mm is a tough range because you have to be so steady. If you could only have 2 lenses, then the 12-35 and the 35-100 2.8 twins would be the way to go but not cheap. Otherwise mix primes in - they're sharp and great in low light.

Thank you for your advise :)

No visible difference in 4K. I don't know of any low-cost speed boosters, unfortunately. I hope Sigma brings their MC-11 (or something like it) to the Panasonic system. I have it for my Sony and it's awesome!

It is the biggest hurdle with the M4/3 is you need to buy a speedbooster which often is more expensive than the camera. The optics on them are modest at best so I cannot see why they charge so much.

Zyren I doubt 99% of the world could tell the difference under normal circumstances. It's the IBIS in the G85/GX85 that's really noticeable. Maybe if you put them side by side and really zoomed you'd see it but the G7 looks great. So does the G85 with no filter.

Yeah, video rates/codecs are exactly the same between the two.

watch the fucking video

I'd absolutely recommend the G7 if you NEED 4K and don't need great autofocus. But what are you using it for? If you're looking to VLOG, this is my favourite budget kit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rn7lp6Fny3g.html

Justin Reves I was looking into doing cinematic type of stuff but I don't know to much about cameras haha And maybe a bit of vlogging here and there

Zane Crocker Yeah all the lenses are interchangeable. You just can't buy the G7 with the 12-60 as it's kit lens. You'd have to buy separately.

Just make sure that gimbal can handle the weight of a couple more good lenses because you’ll want to upgrade the kit lens. But a gimbal + G7 will be more stable than a g85 - you just gotta be ok hauling and fiddling with a gimbal.

@@JustinReves 1.7kg payload on the A1000 and the G7 with battery and kit lens is less than 600g. Mainly be used as a b-cam so won't be investing into too many primes. Think it's the better option. Thanks for the heads-up! Informative.

Yep, plug and play. Exactly the same.

Same battery also

+Alexx (Heyit'salexx757) Sure could. VLOGs #007 through #167 for me were all done on the G7. IBIS is nice but not a deal breaker.

Thanks for the answer Justin. What would be the first lens you grab past the kit lens? worth getting the metabones smart adapter to use some canon glass on it if I'm invested there to start?

Thanks. What are you opinions on shooting with a sony rx series point and shoot over a g7 for vlogging? Are the sony built in mics good enough to not include a hotshoe?

I love the RX series, but the mics are the thing stopping me. Depends the situations you are in. Sara Dietschy uses it and it works for her. I live in a windy place so it would be tough. Or if you're in really noisy environemtns.

+Lawrence RBE Sounds like a great plan. I grew SO MUCH with my G7.

Justin Reves I was at best buy the other day and noticed the g85 price was within 200 dollars. Do I save a little more and make the jump

Justin Reves also I will be vlogging but I will be using a tripod for the most part so again decisions decisions lol

It certainly takes up more but with how cheap memory cards are, it’s not much of an issue. Having a solid computer to edit 4K is the bigger thing to worry about.

@@JustinReves if it’s a mac book pro is it a problem?( I’m just getting to filmmaking)