Panasonic GX80 GX85 vs G80 G85 REVIEW - Problem with Stabilisation - Comparison Test

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Watch this comparison before buying Panasonic G80 camara
I every possible configuration when I compare stabilisation gx80 vs g80, the gx80 wins it doesn't have this "stickiness" issue. I checked with, without electronic stabilisation. (in my video E stabilisation is off on both cameras. Lenses I use have the latest firmware, I updated lenses - 1235 f2.8, 14140, 1260, 45mm 1.8. My Gx80 has latest firmware which when I uploaded did improve already good stabilisation. G80 has the firmware 1.0 and there is no update on Panasonic website. when tested lenses which support dual IS the "dual IS" Ikon is presented on the screen. I am testing apples with apples- and I know there is something wrong, what I didn't know is whether it is problem with my camera only.
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@veronikajurickova3997 5 лет назад

Hey I had the same issue with my G9. I knew it didn't happen in the beginning and then I realised happened because I changed one setting. Go to settings - stabilizer - I.S. lock (video) and switch it OFF ☺

@MehulRaval 2 года назад

Does this setting solves the problem??

@AudioTrend 7 лет назад

*Hey guys in the comments! If you have the same trouble - **_post your video_** with its demonstration! When there will be a lot of complaints, Panasonic will understand that it hurts their sales and will update the firmware/hardware sooner.*

@loft4me 6 лет назад

Good to see the stabilization qualities of the GX85. I'm considering a gimbal to further reduce distracting movements, but the qualities of the in-body stabilization does not have me in any rush. Thank you for the clip.

@AutismFamilyChannel 7 лет назад

Thanks for the heads up. Maybe saved me a grand in money.

@justincasehd7524 6 лет назад

Autism Family it's his copy. If you watch more reviews of the camera you'll find it doesn't jump around like that

@JasonDot 7 лет назад

Great comparison, thanks Marcin!

@RichCastroBJJ 7 лет назад

Thanks for testing and posting this. Guess I'll wait on pulling the trigger on the g85.

@VipulDK 7 лет назад

Wow! Iw as seriously thinking about buying G85 now I am rethinking. Thank you for the review.

@pavelseniut 7 лет назад

Vipul Kapadia its fixed now

@paulbailey6251 7 лет назад

Excellent series of videos on these issues - I'm certain that Panasonic will have felt the 'heat' and responded sooner than they would have done otherwise. This is the sort of publicity (consumer feedback) that makes RU-vid worthwhile. Well done!

@BenFox01 7 лет назад

Great video! I have also noticed this problem. Its not massive for me but your comparison shows the GX85 is awesome. Damn hope they sort in a firmware damn it!

@TbltDe 7 лет назад

Once again - THANK you for pointing out this issue! You started the ball rolling.

@TbltDe 7 лет назад

See it as your strength :)

@kristov1110 7 лет назад

Verry usefull vid, I could see the problem on other demos on you tube and you confirm it !! Thanks, they have to work now !

@kristov1110 7 лет назад

I was about to go for g80, but after seeing your video And others, I finaly choosed the gx80. Thanks !

@raredreamfootage 7 лет назад

Thanks so much for this video! I've sold both my GX85's in hopes of moving to the G85 but it looks like I'll be holding off until Panasonic fixes this!

@jdorj 6 лет назад

I had exactly the same problem with my GH5, I've updated the firmware hopefully it will fix it. Thanks for making this video

@jdorj 6 лет назад

Hey Marcin, I was using a 12-35 with the O.I.S and body stabilizer turned on. It started to jitter and then move like it was trying to catch up with my movements, exactly like your video. I turned the camera on and off and it seemed to work fine for the rest of my night. I love the GH5 perfect for my work style, just the other night when it played up it gave me quite a fright.

@jdorj 6 лет назад

Actually, I just found out people were having issues with the I.S in the GH5 when you chose manually white balance. That's what happened to me. Weird!

@drajjan 7 лет назад

Man, that is such a bummer. I've been looking to upgrady my GX80 to the G80 for all the reasons you mentioned along with better handling and weathersealing. I've been waiting for my local store to get it in so I could try it out before I buy since I don't buy cameras before handling anymore, for reasons like this. Hopefully this is a software issue that they can and will fix, lets hope. Thanks for sharing this Marcin.

@vangual 7 лет назад

The main difference in terms of stabilization electronics, afaik, is the use of a more sensitive gyro, for "dual2". Chances are that they need to re-tune the thresholds to differentiate intended and unintended movements to the values the new sensor delivers. Fingers crossed.

@1958subat1958 7 лет назад

Great review .thanks a lot

@orange42 7 лет назад

Your gx85 reel clips are sweet. Beautiful colours and shots.

@orange42 7 лет назад

I'm tossing up selling the GH4 and getting the G85. I'm assuming they will fix any IBIS grabbing.

@orange42 7 лет назад

Thanks. I never use 96fps. vlog is nice but takes too long in post and has purple noise in sky shots. I have used the high bit rate 1080, 50p a fair amount but.... have lost a lot of time to stabilisation issues using the 25mm. In an ideal world I'd have two bodies, G80 and GH5. I suspect the price on the GH5 will kill that dream lol.

@petrgrossmann451 7 лет назад

Jeremy's review on B&H, he wrote: "To get smooth, stabilized video on the G85, youll want to disable lens stabilization and only use the cameras 5-axis IBIS. Power O.I.S. lenses are notorious for micro-jitter in video mode, although theyre fantastic for sharp photos. Mega O.I.S. lenses are much smoother for video but dont currently work with Dual IS II. That leaves you with the G85s IBIS, which works beautifully. Pair the IBIS with a light rig (I usually forgo a proper rig altogether and just use a Cullman Magnesit Copter butted up against my shoulder at a 90 angle like a rifle with the cameras LCD flipped out and angled up at my face), and Im confident youll be pleased with the results" In the end this is the great camera !

@koolkutz7 7 лет назад

That's helpful info thanks. I have the G80/85. I was starting to get worried with people's comments regarding jittery video. Would you recommend turning the E-Stabilization ON for video too when hand-holding? I also can hear a constant low humming/whirring sound when the camera is on, I take it that's normal?

@GayBoucheryGonzague 7 лет назад

But... and correct me if I am wrong... the Body ONLY Has 3-axis Stabs, the 5 is achieved when used in combination of the LENS O.I.S and the Camera IBIS. At least is what my GX7 MKII Manual says! Now you can turn on IBIS (3 axis) and the Digital Stab but it further crop the video.

@VoicesofMusic 7 лет назад

To get IS for video get the GX85.

7 лет назад

Nope. The body has 5-axis image stabilization. When a lens with stabilization is attached the camera, the lens and camera works together to try and find the best way of stabilization on those two axises, leaving the 3 other axies working on their own. :)

@TokyoStreetView 7 лет назад

I would not say the "BODY" has 5-axis STAB, this is misleading and contradict what you are just saying after. To get 5 Axis you need the BODY and a LENS. Mount the Leica 15 or 12mm for Example or even the 7-14mm and you only have 3 axis. Now... Since Pana is also selling this camera in a Kit with a I.O.S lens they can indeed says that this camera comes with 5-axis stab... but not the body alone.

@koolkutz7 7 лет назад

Have you updated the lens firmware with lenses attached to your G80? This is what you must do. I had the G6 previously with all lenses updated but still had to update all my Panasonic & Olympus lenses when I got the G80. Would this help?

@JoEtsu1989 5 лет назад

Marcin--The comments are from 2 years ago. Has the problem been fixed now the 1.3 version update? Also, when you talk about updates, it is helpful if you tell viewers what version you are using in the tests.

@TbltDe 7 лет назад

I can confirm this issue on my G80! Thanks for pointing out, I thought this was just regular behavior.

@TbltDe 7 лет назад

I'll keep it. 90% of the time I'm using it with a tripod and a fluid head anyways. Still, for hand-held footage it's a drawback. I'll hope for a software fix.

@TbltDe 7 лет назад

Marcin Rucinski thank you, I'm glad you like it. :)

@Atefvinc 7 лет назад

Thank you for this great feedback. Does the g80 produces an acoustuc noise when it's on ? I have read quite a few comments and seen videos on that matter but don't know if it's a general problem or if only few people have it.

@timhiatt8848 7 лет назад

Marcin, thanks for all you've done to get this IBIS issue addressed by Panasonic. I already returned my G85, because Panasonic had not fixed the issue. But now that they have, I'm probably going to go buy it again. Could you please do another comparison test with the new firmware? I've watched several tests of the new firmware that have been posted by other people, but honestly, they are pretty useless. They don't show a side-by-side comparison like you did. So there's no way of knowing what is hand-held jerkiness and what is the sensor movement. Thanks!

@sooovann8908 7 лет назад

Thanks for your video. I didn't know that G80 suffered from such a problem ! I wanted to buy it but will actually wait for Panasonic to release a firmware update to solve this. Really unusable as-is.

@sooovann8908 7 лет назад

Yeah, I really really hope so. Otherwise, I'm done with Panasonic :(((

@TCKe 7 лет назад

Thank you a very useful video it stoped me from getting the G80, the GX80 seams nice but I just don't understand Panasonic why no mic input. I stick with my G7 and Olympus for now

@suwan1986 7 лет назад

Tomas C K exactly. mic input is the one holding me from GX85

@timhiatt8848 7 лет назад

Marcin, thank you for such a great video! I had just purchased the Lumix GX85 right before they announced the Lumix G85. I loved the GX85, but I returned it so I could buy the G85. I just received my G85 and I'm very disappointed that the G85 stabilization doesn't work as well as the GX85! I know you contacted Panasonic a week ago. Have they given you any answer yet? Are they saying that they will have a software update to fix it? I have contacted them, but have not gotten an answer yet.

@Raptorman0909 7 лет назад

Just got the G85 (USA) and haven't done any critical image stabilizer testing yet but will look into that. I have a much older GH2 so I guess I could rig up a test jig like you did and compare the much older GH2 to the G85. The 25mm f/1.7 doesn't have stabilization built into the lens so if you're seeing issues with the G85 and the 25mm lens it could only be the in camera stabilization and not the lens or the camera and lens working against each other.

@estebanisswimming 7 лет назад

Thanks for sharing

@charbax 7 лет назад

So I guess no response yet from Panasonic? You've had how many other users confirm the same problem? I am just about to buy the G85 (by around November 13th), but if there's no update if Panasonic can and when they might fix this by firmware update, then maybe I will just delay getting it, or perhaps consider getting a Sony a6500, what do you think of the Sony a6500 vs Panasonic G85? It seems the Sony with lens is quite a bit more expensive. And the Sony a6500 seems not available before December.. I have previously used a GH3 for about 3+ years (terribly out of focus handheld, often on my Steadicam Merlin with arm), and in the last 5 months I have been mostly using the Sony AX53 camcorder with partial BOSS IBIS in 4K, full BOSS IBIS which they advertise is only at 1080p (I only care to do 4K).

@univisionstudio 3 года назад

Thank you for that. I just ordered GX80. I would love to know what settings are you using on your camera and what post processing are you doing. I love your colours and quality.

@antalperge1007 2 года назад

Yes!! Me too 👍

@arcrecordsaustria 7 лет назад

great Video thx for it

@tvurk 7 лет назад

Will you send the camera back or will you wait for a possible firmware fix? If it's a hardware issue then Panasonic has a big problem on their hands, I was thinking of buying this camera (mostly for video use) but I'm definitely waiting until this gets resolved, those jerky movements just ruin the footage when panning.

@LeteckeVideo 7 лет назад

Hi, would stabilization work well with Olympus fix lenses? I have bunch of them but gx80 looks quite useful for some field work. Normally I used GH4 and DJI Ronin but not always it makes sense. Thanks for answer.

@123scibi123 6 лет назад

Hi, thanks for a great video! Any new information regarding firmware upgrade? Is the G80 now doing well in videos, or would you still recommend GX80?

@jokelovers481 5 лет назад

gx80 is so cheap to buy I have 2. one with 25mm Leica and another with 100-400mm all fits in small bag I use every day. great setup www.500px.com/webtutr

@deeber35 6 лет назад

Is it important to get lenses that have the panasonic optic stabilization, or is that effect not that much more beyond the camera stabilization?

@firworks 7 лет назад

I was inspired by your side by side comparison with two cameras so I managed to snag a non updated G85 and did a side by side with overlayed footage showing the improvements of the new firmware. It's pretty incredible what a difference it has made.

@nelsontome1850 7 лет назад

Hello Marcin, good video! Can you tell if the panasonic g80 has a timecode function like GH4? Thank you very much

@marthabea2141 7 лет назад

Thank you! I thought it was just my camera! So now what? Are we basically SOL on this camera?

@nefflz 7 лет назад

It seems that when an external mic is fitted to the G85, the cable of the mic blocks the full rotation of the flip screen. Correct?

@brandonor 6 лет назад

Hi guys! Has panasonic fixed this jerking problem on G85 with a firmware update? I was thinking about buying the camera but now thinking twice about that.

@MyGarageTV1 7 лет назад

Have you contacted Panasonic? Did you try it with kit lense?

@viktor4860 7 лет назад

so the text across the whole screen in the beginning is crap and I almost killed the video, but I did find this review/test quite helpful as I wanted to swop my G70 for a G80 but will happily keep my G70 now. Thank you

@brianhillvideos9273 7 лет назад

Thanks for the video, it demonstrates the issue very well.I bought my g80 specifically for video, on the strength of Panasonic's reputation in this area but have been very disappointed with the quality of stabilized panning video, compared to their other recent models.I immediately noticed the same problem with my g80 and have contacted Panasonic to ask whether they intend to fix this issue. I received a prompt reply which effectively dismissed my query. I have replied back asking for further clarification and am still waiting a reply.Please could anyone else who see's this problem report the issue to Panasonic. If enough Panasonic users complain then maybe they will do something about it.

@dashtimelapse7886 7 лет назад

I'd love to see a stabilization comparison of a Sony Camcorder with BOSS stabilization vs the DUAL IS of the GX80/85. I wonder which one would perform better.

@david-un3om 7 лет назад

would I be correct in saying there are only 2 lens which panasonic say are suitable for this camera. They will be adding firmware updates to others IF POSSIBLE.. Really sorry to hear your problems and lets hope it can be sorted.

@jaspertermors 7 лет назад

Informative video, great side by side comparison. I've owned the G80 for two weeks now. The stabilization is nice for (lowlight) stills, and handheld fixed video shots. Panning however causes this jittery movement. To me it seems that there is a bigger 'margin' for stabilization of stills and relative still video shots, as in, the stabilization mode compensates for more unwanted movement. However, this causes the 'delay' we see in panning video shots: the first part of the pan is stabilized as if it were a still shot, which then gets 'corrected' by a very sudden and fast movement into the pan. IBIS was one of the main reasons to get the G80 instead of the GH4 for me as well. If this can't be fixed I'll have to use an external stabilizer anyway, in which case I might as well return the G80 to get a GH4. What do?

@carriagel8773 7 лет назад

Have you tried to set stabilizer in Panning Mode? There are some options in menu.. Normal/ Panning/ Off

@TVPActivismIsrael 7 лет назад

is it possible to turn off the IBIS on the GX85?

@VoicesofMusic 7 лет назад

Great video, thanks. And there's a theorbo in the street scenes!

@jonathanalfred446 7 лет назад

Marcin Rucinski _ In the presentation video of the Dual I.S they say the stabilisation works with the dual I.S sensor AND a Dual I.S lense. Was it a dual I.S lens you use ?

@jonathanalfred446 7 лет назад

Ok thank you very much !! Even though those are sad news.. I guess i'll go for the Gh4.

@jonathanalfred446 7 лет назад

Sorry for my english

@jonathanalfred446 7 лет назад

Haha thanks ^^

@OsmanCarim 7 лет назад

Hey Marcin. Thanks for the video. I as well as pretty much everyone else have the same issue. Do you also have a constant hum coming from the camera regardless of I.S being turned on or off? Also have you messaged Panasonic with a link to this video highlighting the issue? Thanks dude

@MichaelMa 7 лет назад

I'm curious, do you have it both set to AFC? Could the focus be set on AFS on the GX80? It feels like it's trying to make the image hold still in one position rather than smoothing out a change in direction when doing a pan. In other words, the stabilization on the GX80 seems to be for video while the G80 stabilization would be better for photos.

@MichaelMa 7 лет назад

Thanks for the reply. Do you also have the stabilization rumble noise on the G80? Can you hear something similar on the GX80?

@MehulRaval 2 года назад

Is there any update on this now??

@renanmlopes 7 лет назад

I recently bought the G7 and I almost choose the G85 over the G7 just because of the stabilization. Luckly I didn't make that choice. I also think Panasonic will release firmware updates and fix this problem, but the problem shouldn't exist in the first place.

@russellgosse7274 7 лет назад

I have the G85 and I don't see this problem with either the 12-60mm or the Oly 14-150mm II lenses. I saw a similar behaviour in my E-M10 II and E-M5 II cameras I had before the G85. Let's hope a FW update will resolve this.

@donfloyd868 7 лет назад

Does one produce more white-light or light refraction than the other?

7 лет назад

This problem is stated at Dpreview final evaluation as Cons "IS struggles to differentiate intentional movement from shake in video mode" www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-g85-g80/8

@TheGregWallace 5 лет назад

Has this problem been fixed yet....?

@MultiNunoSilva 7 лет назад

Hi Marcin. I have the G80 and I don't feel any jumps when shooting video with kit lens 12-60, maybe your unit is faulty. Can you try to turn off the stabilization when using tripod to test? Regards.

@MultiNunoSilva 7 лет назад

Hi Marcin. My apologies, after testing I found out that I have th same issue but appear to be just when I use dual. I would like to ask which lens are you using special the 1.7? do you use the adptator? Regards.

@Filipoo666 7 лет назад

Hej. Mam kilka pytań. Jeśli miałbyś wybierać, to wybrałbyś Oly m10Mark2, czy własnie gx80? Czy gx80 ma problemy z wolnym focusem na video nadal? Jak z jakością fotek z gx80?

@antalperge1007 2 года назад

Hi, after 4 years 🤭 the Oly M10II is an entry level cam, while the GX80 is an advanced cam. I had the Oly, and have the GX80 now - amazing little cam! The vid capability in its time (2016) was a winner! Even now ('22) a nice cam.

@catearcher8172 5 лет назад

Hi. Do you think the stills are better from G80? I had GX80 and I sell it. Cos my 12 years old Nikon D40 provides better pictures despite its 6 mega pixel chip. (but no video). I am looking for camera with at least equal stills but capable recording good qality video. Thanks in advance for you respond.

@mindrecode2948 5 лет назад

Is the stabilization problem still present?

@Eivissaa 7 лет назад

I think I will buy the GX80. BTW your face looks green. Used a Panasonic? Because skin tones of Panasonic usually are a bit green.

@thedigitalsnake 7 лет назад

Hi, I have the G80 with the 12-35mm lens, and I had also noticed this over-zealous stabilisation making the image 'stick' when panning. For video, by simply switching of the lens OIS, it has stopped this happening. So I guess, Dual IS is fantastic for stills, as this gives another stop or so, but for smooth vide, only use IBIS.

@thedigitalsnake 7 лет назад

+Marcin Rucinski, i have my laptop setup on the Henge dock which hides the SD slot and am waiting on a USB reader to arrive in the next few days. I will check the footage then, my G80 kit is still all brand new. But from the rear screen, there is a clear and visible difference between, and improvement, with OIS on and off.

@bodasparatodalavida 7 лет назад

Not great news. I was interested in this camera for the IBIS and mic input as I have the GX85 which is great but the sound is rubbish. Hope it's just teething problems.

@johnmichaelleslie4835 7 лет назад

IIRC the 14-140 and 12-60 are the only two lenses with Dual-IS2 lens support, do you have another OIS lens and how does that work? Many thanks for the video, most useful.

@johnmichaelleslie4835 7 лет назад

So I should ask - how does the 12-35 work with the G80/85? (I love using the 12-35 f2.8 on my GH4, its OIS is really good for video IMHO, unlike some other Panasonic lenses I have).

@johnmichaelleslie4835 7 лет назад

***** Thank you

@mephistosteiner8064 7 лет назад

Does the firmware update fix the stabilisation problem of the g80? I do hand held video, so this would be a deal breaker for me! Would you now choose the g80 over the gx80? How do you feel about the g7? All the best!

@mephistosteiner8064 7 лет назад

Thank you so much!!! Since I'm on a tight budget, 1000€ is my max, I'm really torn! I could get the gx80 with 12-32mm for 630€, with 14- 140mm for 850€ Is the 14-140 worth the price, also since I could almost get the g81 (g80) for the same price. With a 12-60mm the g81 is 950€. I mostly do videos and music videos with time laps and speed ramping and a little fotography. Is the g81s more solid body worth the up price? Is the movable screen such an adventage when filming and keeping it scratch free? I also like the smaler body of the gx80 and would like to keep a more pancake like lense so I could carry it with me more comfortable. Also the gx8 is now in the mix with 12- 60mm for 1000€!? What combo would you sugest? Thank you for the advice, I really appriciate it!!!

@Grougalette 7 лет назад

I agree with this question :)

@yuriialmuzhnyi9439 5 лет назад

What about sharpness of video in this cameras? Comparing G7.

@justalexhimself 4 года назад

wow a very useful video, albeit from 2016. Is this problem fixed now?

@Camera_Addiction 4 года назад

IT is fixed now

@nicknick12345 4 года назад

@@Camera_Addiction Hi Marcin, was it fixed via a firmware update or something else? Please tell us. Thanks,

@Camera_Addiction 4 года назад

@@nicknick12345 YES IT WAS FIXED...

@vangual 7 лет назад

I can't reproduce that bounciness on my G81. It doesn't smooth out directional changes on pans as well as your GX85 footage but there's no getting randomly stuck or jumping. Tested both with both 1235 and 1260. Sounds like there may be some bad production runs. EDIT: Can now reproduce it, seems to be triggered when the motion is very slow and linear speed. This definitely needs a firmware fix fast.

@vangual 7 лет назад

Body: v1.0, 1235/2.8: v1.3 , 1260: v1.1. As far as I'm aware all the latest publically available ones. If you'd like I can pm you and show you my sample, compare settings, etc.

@vangual 7 лет назад

Ah now I was able to reproduce it, it appears my usual pans are just fast enough and not linear enough to not trigger it. Once I go really slow and linear speed I see the same issue. I think that's just a tuning issue that they can fix with a firmware upgrade. (Not defending them here or downplaying the issue.)

@stevenclarey 7 лет назад

I had a pre production G80 that I used extensively for video and I can't say I noticed any jumping around. However, I was not using stabilized lenses, only Kowa primes. Try turning off the stabilization on the lens and use just the body stabilization, does it make a difference? Also, I'll make sure the guys at Panasonic see this video. Cheers

@stevenclarey 7 лет назад

Ok.. That's not cool! I'll definitely make sure they are aware of this. I'm actually with the engineers in Japan later this month so I'll show them your video. I'm guessing its an issue that they are already aware of though to be honest (they do monitor social media) and more likely than not its an issue that can be solved with a firmware update.

@mateuszgawrysiak 7 лет назад

It looks like a software problem. My olympus e-pl7 IBIS behavior is similar, because it's not optimized for video and won't be. I think that panasonic didn't have time to optimize IBIS and will fix it soon

@louiseducator 7 лет назад

Great video, thanks for posting. Does the same problem with stabilisation apply to stills? I was thinking about the G80 as a second body, largely for birding as I want the better IBIS and reduced/no shutter shock over my existing GX8. This kind of jerkiness would destroy finer detail in stills if it exists.

@dialatedmcd 6 лет назад

Thank you, I was stuck between G80 and 80D and this helped me make my choice... 80D it is!

@richardbergeron4383 7 лет назад

I just got my new G85 today and am seeing the same issue. This would NOT be an issue if Panasonic had done their job correctly before they released their new camera. And I soooo wanted to love this new Panny. If I don't see anything in terms of a firmware update or announcement within the week to fix this, I'm returning it and going with the new Oly when it comes out, and I'm recommending that our studios steer clear of Panasonic as well.

@carriagel8773 7 лет назад

So if I use a tripod, will it be correct? NO! Video is jerking and bouncing. Is it a joke? I had GX80, it was great. Stabilization was beautiful, very smooth, even on tripod... But GX80 doesn't have mic input, little battery, and no battery grip.. So I sold it, and bought G80.. I'm really disappointed now.

@FrankGrayVideo 7 лет назад

Our company bought the G80 recently (Firmware 1.0) and 12-60mm (Firmware 1.1). When I first tried it shooting video, it was jumpy like yours and the screen displayed the Dual IS symbol only. I consulted the manual and it said you had to select E-Stabilisation to get the 5-axis combined. Once I'd switched that on in the menu the stabilisation was smooth and the screen now displayed the 5-axis hybrid symbol. I can't imagine you haven't done this unless your GX80 had it selected by default. Unfortunately, our camera has now gone off on assignment so I can't give you any hands-on information but hope this helps.

@trayneadjeifilms 7 лет назад

But to my understand turning on the electronic stabilization shouldne be necessary. As doing that will some what punch in the image to stabilize as opposed to just doing it optically.

@Anzla 6 лет назад

The issue has been solved eventually? I’m interested in this camera but this would be a huge problem for my usage.

@Anzla 6 лет назад

Marcin Rucinski Thank you!

@EKB480 7 лет назад

new firmware available on the Panasonic's website to solve this.

@quantumbalancingemrlabsllc2535 7 лет назад

Firmware update 1.1 was just issued by Panasonic so the issue should be resolved.

@DHIEnterprises 7 лет назад

Did you try just returning/exchanging the G80 for another one and seeing if you have the same problem?

@DHIEnterprises 7 лет назад

Interesting. Yeah you seem to have bad luck with buying stuff. :) I have tons of bad luck in general... but usually not with buying things. My GX80 I'll probably get from MediaMarkt because they have like fifty of them in stock. They also have the G80. I only saw one... but there's like 50 MediaMarkts here in Berlin. Like you said, though, it's probably just bad firmware... which isn't going to do you any good if you have to shoot something RIGHT NOW.

@seunghan9078 7 лет назад

I had the same problem with 14-140mm lens. I took it back to the reseller and they tested their store display model as well as opening another new box. Including mine, all three exhibited the same problem.

@yuriialmuzhnyi9439 5 лет назад

Hi. What situation is now about stabilization in G80/85? What is better now? GX or G?

@yuriialmuzhnyi9439 5 лет назад

@@Camera_Addiction Grate thanks for your fast answer and this video. It's really interesting question and for me now. What bad are in GX80? Now with your experience. Battery life is very bad? Usability? Screen? Color of picture in the same PP? What is difference? Comparing between both of this cameras? Thank You Very Much.

@hemuni 7 лет назад

Marcin you should add a post to mu-43.com and report what you have found. As we can see from the answers you have gotten here, this is a general problem and it would be great to get input from more G8x users on the issue. Also Panasonic follow the discussions there, so it might push a fix out faster.

@a.s.7235 4 года назад

i know i’m 2 years too late but can you turn off the stabilization?? or is there a better mirrorless 4k cameras in the 600-700 region that i can buy?

@a.s.7235 4 года назад

Marcin Rucinski thank you so much

@a.s.7235 4 года назад

Marcin Rucinski some videos on youtube say the Panasonic cameras are bad with focus and look “not cinematic” what do you think about that

@a.s.7235 4 года назад

Marcin Rucinski thanks

@a.s.7235 4 года назад

Marcin Rucinski thank you for the response, i shoot music videos, mostly hip hop, the camera will be on a gimbal but it’s gonna move a lot

@GarlicToothpaste 7 лет назад

Just tested mine with the 25mm f1.7 It does the same thing. Not good!

@howardchud9097 7 лет назад

GX8 ?

@PanasonicESP 7 лет назад

Hi Problem is solved with the new firmware available here av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/fts/index.html

@claudiorincon8620 7 лет назад

Upload a nex test please! thanks!

@NetvoTV 6 лет назад

Marcin Rucinski so which will you choose now?

@mandobaron 7 лет назад

I just got an email from Panasonic (after calling tech support 24 hours ago) that said they are aware of the issue and working on a firmware update. Woohoo!

@mandobaron 7 лет назад

Excellent, exactly the note I got too! Nice work Panasonic!

@theSUBVERSIVE 7 лет назад

It's probably the IS algorithm, so I guess that as people let Panasonic know, soon there should be a firmware update coming, hopefully. I don't think Panasonic would let it be without fixing it, IBIS is one of the selling points of this camera after all.

@charbax 7 лет назад

Let me know if Panasonic responds to this, if a firmware update can fix it or what..

@markshirley01 7 лет назад

has the firmware update solved the problem - I've put my purchase on hold, if anyone could let me know that would be great.

@markshirley01 7 лет назад

thanks so much for the reply - I was torn between buying the G80 and the A6300 to put on a Crane Gimbal the only advantage the Sony had was it shoots better low light video. I was impressed with your GX80 clips.

@richardbergeron4383 7 лет назад

Panasonic has just announced a firmware fix to correct the stabilization problem with the G85! Hurrrrrayyyyyyy!!! It should be out soon.

@dch2896 7 лет назад

LOL. My Em5ii is $hitty like that too. Jerky while panning simialr to the bounce around you are talking about.

@ivanpunch 4 года назад

I have same stab problem with gx85 =(

@edoardocatani4324 7 лет назад

does anybody know if this issue can be dealt with, at least partially, with a gimbal like the Zhiyun Crane?

@Z-add 7 лет назад

Edoardo Catani then what is the point of dual is2

@edoardocatani4324 7 лет назад

MySchizo Buddy i know it sounds like overkill but a gimbal can always probe to be useful imho, e.g. shots very close to the ground as you are walking. However, my question was if a gimbal could somewhat counteract this issue? At least until they *hopefully* fix it

@richardbergeron4383 7 лет назад

Just so everyone knows...I just got off the mu-43 forum and have some apparently bad news. A couple of folks made face to face contact with Panasonic reps and the reps are claiming that they have heard nothing about stabilization issues with the G85 and that the camera is just fine. In other words, unless these reps really are clueless (which seems highly unlikely), Panasonic is going to screw their customers and offer NO fix for the G85. I sincerely hope that I am mistaken and that a fix is on the way ...but Panasonic is NOT responding to any requests on any of the forums so I must assume bad intent on their part. I'm waiting one more week and then returning this G85.

@videoguyla 7 лет назад

Any word from Panasonic on this?

@videoguyla 7 лет назад

Thanks

@NunoCortinhal 7 лет назад

My G80 is doing the same with every lens i tested. Got it with a new 12-60 but also tried the older 14-140 mega ois and a canon fd 50 with speed booster.

@NunoCortinhal 7 лет назад

It's something with the video mode, you can't see the issue on the preview of the photo mode.

@buczy3470 7 лет назад

Nuno Cortinhal hey, do you think my metabones speedbooster ultra would work with the g80?

@buczy3470 7 лет назад

Marcin Rucinski because I'm trying to figure out if the IBIS would work as it has to move around in the sensor. Would it fully cover the frame on the metabones 0.71x?

@buczy3470 7 лет назад

Marcin Rucinski so every time I turn off the camera and change zoom and turn it on again, the camera will need that info again? Also I have the Canon version of the metabones which can autofocus with lenses and can send info such as focal length to the camera.

@NunoCortinhal 7 лет назад

I agree with Marcin, don't see why wouldn't work, my speedbooster has that multiplication and have no problems with it.

@gotDesign 7 лет назад

The G80 “bounce around when panning cause the IS on the lens is continues correcting the panning, so when you record on tripod and panning you must disable IS. But hay, maybe you got a faulty camera or if Panasonic released this camera with this major problem, then its gonna be a major fail for them... Return this crappy camera and get the Sony A6500

@LowLightVideos 7 лет назад

Integer Bresenham algorithm.

@LowLightVideos 7 лет назад

+Marcin Rucinski - I've spent a small amount of time looking into this issue. There's *2* Videos where this complaint is made (and a related Article where the person went to return the Camera and the Store checked the rest of their Stock, finding 3 more affected Cameras). Just an educated guess, no promises (nor do I work for Panasonic). We might know in a week. Love it, wait. Hate it, return it. YT, Rob

@Khalidazizphoto 7 лет назад

does the g80 hae the same issue with the 14-140mm?

@seunghan9078 7 лет назад

14-140mm f/3.5-5.6 and dual is with g85, yes it has same exact problem.

@mandobaron 7 лет назад

Is this just a problem for dual IS or does it affect lenses like the 25 1.4 or other unstabilized lenses?

@mandobaron 7 лет назад

Thanks very much. Mine is in the mail so I am hoping it's fixed soon in a FW update. I did call Panasonic and tell them about the issue and sent them a link to your video. Thanks for being scientific about it!

@Krystianissimus 7 лет назад

It looks like the stabilisation module is increasing creepy rolling shutter effect (but maybe it is a bug related to cropping pixel sensor readout or problems with electronic shutter). Anyway, I hope that issue will be fixed with new firmware for this model of camera.

@slowmoboss3398 7 лет назад

your answer starts with the price you've paid. There is an old saying that you get what you've paid for.

@slowmoboss3398 7 лет назад

you can disagree as much as you wish is still a cheap camera and a micro 4/3 on top of that ,is like filming trough a bathroom key hole....but I am attracted to them as well not because of the quality but the price...And i kind of know how to work my way around micro 4/3. these cameras a re good for hippies or people that just begin to film not for a serious videographer but due to the price...they will have to do for now.

@andreiiasi 7 лет назад

I totally agree with you my friend that every camera is a professional camera as long as you make money with it. My videos are crap in my own eyes and that's due to the equipment I have but yet I get paid really well for my weddings that I do and my customers seam very happy with the work that I do. i only wrote on your video when I've noticed you complaining about you stabilisation in your own camera and all I said is look at the price. There is always a connection price quality. No serious camera manufacturer would build and sell a fantastic camera at this price. Yes G80 is a great camera FOR IT'S PRICE but this doesn't make it a professional camera on a DSLR market. I want to buy a Panasonic G7 and that's not because is a good camera but because is cheap light and has a lens in front of it and I know I can work around it's short comings. I call a professional camera a camera that is full frame , has 4k at least 60 fps and a log that I can easy grade and a perfect dual focus like Canons and there is such a camera but comes with a price £4500 just for the body. It's called Canon 1DX mark 2. If i would have the money I would go for that camera but since I haven't I would have to be happy with a Panasonic G7. Hope that helps.

@seunghan9078 7 лет назад

My new g85 is doing the same thing. Jerking and bouncing around.

@seunghan9078 7 лет назад

I'm sure Panasonic knew this was an issue. Pretty disappointed since this was my first purchase with their products.

@seunghan9078 7 лет назад

Thanks Marcin for doing such a thorough test and comparison so soon after product launch. I can't afford to wait and see if they fix this soon so I took it back to my reseller and showed them my tests as well as yours to make it clear that an exchange would reproduce the same issue. They were quite shocked how horrible it looked and gave me a refund after a few words. If Panasonic fixes this, I will probably repurchase since I liked everything else about the camera. Again, thank you.