Much of the homeless crisis in Victoria is unseen, with people couch surfing, sleeping in cars, or even tenting in the woods. Nowhere is it more apparent than Pandora Avenue.
I have watched 2 documentaries from FINLAND and they have solved their homelessness problems. It takes planning and available resources and then rigorous looking for anyone new sleeping on the streets. They are saying if their little country can do it, every country can. I hope our politicians will implement their strategy. Makes for a stronger, healthier country.
Suprised u got away with making this vid without, someone causing a problem. an for anyone wondering the building at the end of the video is the welfare office.. after a paramedic was attacked while trying to do their job last month, first responders wont work that block without police backup. this is just one of the camp blocks in the city i can think of at least 3 more places like this within walking a 8 kilometre span in victoria. The tent citys are less dense in the summer because those that can camp elsewhere, where its safer-do, until the colder months when vic is the warmest part of the island being the southern tip. So they only wake up to snow about 2 weeks a year compared to mainland an further up island. A Sad reality it is.
Wow. Sad. I left Victoria twenty years ago. I used to cycle through this area every day, to and from work; and then sometimes walk through it at night to social events. A friend, who still lives in Victoria, told me it had become "a pit". I couldn't imagine. Thanks for the video "update". It raises a questions for me about "15 Minute Cities". How could a person live, with a sense of safely and security, with such a civic arrangement, if this is the situation at street level? Twenty years ago, I lived a great life in Victoria without feeling the need for a car. Now? Not so much . . .
@@MisterBlaine102 - Very good point. The crisis they are creating to justify 15 minute cities disincentivizes the very prospect of such a notion. They are the authors of their own demise.
@@poppachops5136 - I have had 3 bikes stolen, including a very expensive mountain bike off the bike rack of my car. It had a very thick U bar lock and thick chain lock.
@shortclipsvictoria789 I have seen a guy break a U bolt so easy with a scissor style car jack and a stolen battery powered Milwaukee drill 3 seconds and he was gone He just put the jack inside the U and hit it with the impact gun and snap!
Brought to you by complacent Victorian's. You earned this all on your own. And of coarse you won't fix this on your own. As per usual, someone will do the dirt for you. Spineless trust fund babies
Homeless and drug addicted bums aren't the same thing. These people chose to ruin their lives, start holding them accuntable for their actions instead of making them feel like victims
I grew up in Victoria. I love the city. It is starting to look like a dive. The government holds a lot of responsibility and better do something drastic soon or no one will want to visit. I am shocked every time I come home
I remember in the mid 90's desperately trying to save up a down payment so I could buy a condo close to the downtown core. They were already overpriced then but still a possibility for regular people, so glad I left in 99. I can't imagine living there now, paying huge taxes, and being surrounded by the likes of that!
Yes it is.. they become drug addicts and then they become homeless.. homelessness is the problem, if they had somewhere to go and hide and do their drugs we wouldn't be having this conversation. Did you know that the majority of people that die from drug overdoses die inside a home? And they're usually blue collar workers...
Summer camping in Victoria. There will be a lot less tents in January. The solution is simple, don’t allow this sort of camping and for the people who are truly in need provide free shelter and free food in a low cost location with everything funded by the federal government. The question is, who are truly in need? Who truly cannot work and pay for their own food and shelter? Well, a quadriplegic might very well be a person who is truly in need. Who else? Schizophrenics? Since the federal government will be paying, the feds can decide on who to fund and where they will go. Maybe the feds can save some money and provide training programs for the ones who can do some work and help out the local economy wherever the free shelter ends up being located.
@@shortclipsvictoria789What you describe sounds like euthanasia. What I’ve noticed about the Canadian system is a lack of transparency under the guise of “privacy”; why should government have privacy? The Canadian people need to have total access to information on tax dollars and exactly how government money is being spent.
@@econhelp583 - That is exactly what it is. A modern form of euthanasia. There is no transparency for exactly that reason. There is more money being wasted and funneled out the back door than is going to good use.
I work at a hotel downtown victoria. I arrive on the bus everyday and it goes right through pandora. Usually there are less tents downtown in the summer, it seemed before. I figured there was some arrangement for the sake of tourism and appearances. This summer the tents are still there in full force and i expect it will get really bad in the winter. I actually passed by a pile of childrens bikes in plain view and just shook my head wondering how those all ended up there. Most of the people on the street seem rather functionally compromised in some way and cannot compete with the rest of us. I dont care how or why in that whatever the cause is, they just can't do it. You can put a paint brush in their hands, but you cant expect a lot of them to get the job done and be efficient and productive for 8 hours. For some of them, their brains just wont allow them to endure that level of focus and attention for the required length of time. The ones that are capable of getting off the street move heaven and earth and do so, if they can handle it. My kind landlady hired some aspiring young lads who looked like train wrecks, to be blunt. They did yardwork for her and it was immediately a disaster and they got really aggressive with her when she refused to pay them. I feel very grim about the future. This is partially because my landlady gave me and my roomate an amazing rent, but now she has to sell her duplex home for medical reasons and age. I work in a hotel, but a typical bachelor pad or 1 person apartment costs, at the very least, about 80% of my monthly check and food is not going to get cheap again in the near future. I am moving in with my mom who has a medical pension for health issues that finally overwhelmed her after my dad died and maybe the two of us can hang onto the family home together. When my time comes i will not become homeless. I will disembowel myself like a man and end it. (Or not🙂) So never be so confident that it wont happen to you. For me if sonething goes wrong enough, i will be on the street as well. If you lose your house, your insurance, or anything like that plan B will could quite possibly become a real shock in terms of how things were in the golden age.
@@DarffoneSorry about the difficult situation! The cost of living in Victoria is very frustrating. I love living in Victoria but I would definitely leave if the financial stress of living in Victoria impacted my mental/physical health. That said, the cost of living seems to be high all over Canada, so where to go? I agree with the saying, “If you have your health, you have everything”. So what is the easiest way to stay healthy? Not so easy to figure out (at least for me).
Hoarding is a Sign of Mental Defect or Disease. Encampments on Public Streets are a Sign of Social Apathy towards the less fortunate in Our Society. Both are Correctable.
@@michaelodonoghue7464 - This town has attracted a tremendous amount of people who only care about making as much money as they can. Apathy is a major problem.
I grew up in Victoria in the 60's to 80's. You would never have seen this malarkey. The NDP funded Kool Aid and this has rolled out from then on. Eaton's Centre was the first major hang out for years. I'm in North Vancouver and the homeles have taken over many areas in Vancouver, and are moving onto the North Shore. Why would anyone want to visit BC, haven of the homeless and addicts, tent camps and mentally ill attacking strangers on the streets? You can bet no politicians live in these areas. This problem goes back to abysmal social and urban planning, lack of true concern for communities, and electing people for office that have no idea how to deal with critical issues, they talk the talk but can't even walk. The inmates have taken over the asylum, not the ones on the street, but the ones at City Hall and BC Legislature. 🤨🇨🇦
@@JeanMccreesh - It's true. This is no longer the city I grew up in. I'm a 4th generation Victorian, but am seriously contemplating leaving. The culture and the mindset has even migrated north and east of Victoria and Vancouver. I may have to leave the province altogether.
@@soberone6322 - I talk to many of these people on a routine basis. Most are not criminally oriented. They simply had a very bad run of luck and often times turned to drugs or alcohol as a coping mechanism.
My God!! This is Fourth World!!! People watching from Thailand must be thinking what animals!!! I live downtown Eastside Van and it is pristine by comparison. Thanks for making me feel lucky!!!
Last night paramedics apparently got attacked trying to help somebody and it took a platoon of police officers to deal with it. This isnt a statement of facts, but how i feel about the procedure superstitiously so to speak. 1. Person cannot function well enough in modern society to have a job and whatever shelter there is to be had. 2. Because of money, resources, and human rights issues he/she ends up on the street with only sporadic oversight if any. 3. Ends up in a group that is organized enough that people who know how to exploit him/her can easily access him because there is not enough oversight, but not organized enough to prevent exploitation. 4. Person deteriorates further from exposure, drug use, exploitation, etc. 5. Person either dies or becomes so sick he/she is institutionalized OR goes nuts enough hurt someone else and is arrested as a criminal after being left to suffer on the street for a long duration 6. Eventually that person ends up back on the street for further suffering along with all the new arrivals. 7. Area becomes its own functioning economy and demographic that directly contradicts our supposed values of social equality and caring. 8. Continues until there is nothing left but segregation, animosity, and anger, compounded by organized crime. *** When all this started becoming visible years ago i thought to myself that we were smart, modern, and were going to science this into a better future. Nope. More disillusionment. No one has ever solved homelessness and i think it will be a large part of the future for most of the world. Now i think of it as economic weather measued with people's lives that no one will ever resolve. A small few of the human rights principles at play feel.is if they are damaging instead of helpful and i cynically wonder what the real intent and philsophy is behind them. There's a lot of people who need a home and supervision until they hopefully recover or grow into a more compatible human regarding the modern system. Usually i just joke around about stuff online but this is a topic that is a part of real life for me. I might clean this post a bit when i am back home and off my phone. Probably not.
@@Darffone Sadly our politicians are exacerbating this problem for their own political aims. The goal is to create a problem soo big that they are able to justify the end of private property. Capitalism and greed will be blamed for the housing crisis, and 15 minute cities will be the solution. It has become quite naked for most to see though, as it is obvious Trudeau wants tent cities and all of our hotels occupied by refugees with his absurd quotas. People are increasingly understanding what is happening and I don't think they will get away with it.
It is definitely the 21st century now, anyway. I can remember when people talked about the internet creating social harmony. Nope. More disillusionment.
The internet has been imperative to discovering who and what has brought us to this point. Social harmony will come, but there must be great upheaval and turmoil in the process.
Scenes like this repeat themselves all across the entire nation, its not only a BC thing, though I will be 1st to admit, it IS bad almost everywhere in BC to greater to lesser degrees. As for downtown victoria, I can tell you there its downtown area is a lot less pristine and tidy up close. In fact, its actually rather filthy. Trash and damage everywhere. Hardly a single bus stop is intact. Lots of trash, broken pavement is common, and of course, lots of rummies sleeping on the sidewalks. Victoria has trouble keeping even the 'nice' tourist blocks free of trash and debris. Only the parliament building and empress area is truly in good shape, the rest? YMMV. The shabbiness of the city in general, is surprising, given it is the 'center'. Pandora is a mess no question.
Here is an idea .. let them pitch tent in front of the mayors house then see how long it would for her to react ... the mayor is a hypocrite .. and couldn,t care less about these people.. except giving them drugs to cope
fThe rents are just so out of reach for many..My 2 bed apartment cost me 950 dollars a month in my apartment...They now ask 2600 dollars as places are vacated..Our place,the apartments below us and one across the street are up for re zoning which will make 100 plus low income families move into WHAT...Many are buying these supplies as they know they will be homeless...I am and the guy down the hall from me are battling cancer...I have a truck which I plan on being my furture home...We will be seeing many more tent people as they are evicted from their homes...One bed room place is around 2000 dollars a month...Believe me some are not junkies but will end up that way in the end as they are bombarded with dealers trying to sell them some...Many give in to hope the drug takes away their helplessness...I do know many that went that way even though they said it would never happen to them...SAD SAD SAD...
I own a little tiny studio condo in this very neighborhood.. my holding costs are over $3,000.. I would be better off paying the rents you're complaining about... 😂 Why do you think the landlord should rent you a place for less than they are paying for it?
@WezleyB this shouldn't be a renter vs owner fight. This should be the entire demanding the end of turning housing into commodities. Housing is to house people not for investors to build a portfolio with. The population spending 70 percent of their income on shelter is good for no one. It destroys the economy and society.
@@pinkyskeleton5410- It will destroy the entire economy once enough people default on their mortgage and are delinquent in their rent. The WEF and UN want the end of private property and Trudeau is creating a crisis that will give them justification to do just that.
@@WezleyB So glad you can have 3000 dollars ...I live on half that each month...It pays my rent and a few bills...Thank God for food banks and free meals...
