Panicked Students Share Red Flags From Teachers That Screamed Drop The Class Immediately 

When a teacher is proud that everyone is failing the class, drop the class if you can, they obviously don’t get the point of teaching

I never understood why professors take pride in saying nobody will pass the class. Why wouldn’t you want your students to pass???

To the Deaf person who's college didn't give you an interpreter and teachers refused to give accommodations, sue the school. It is illegal. Throw the ADA in their face.

God, I hate teachers that act like you don't have other classes and your own life to worry about ;-;

"didn't need to talk to my wife anyway" best one

"But the book is only $250 so..." This makes me blind with rage and I'm not even in the class

"If everyone fails, it's not for an inability to learn but for an inability to teach" I remember having to spell out to my father that if everyone is failing a class, it's not the student's fault because chances are, the teacher can't teach. I'm also 90% sure that he still doesn't understand the idea that sometimes teachers are not good at teaching.

I actually had a professor for several math classes who wrote all his own textbooks, but they were free and actually fantastic. Plus, he would always come into class saying, "I'VE HAD TEA, I'M READY FOR THIS" I actually still look at those text books, post-graduation.

"You won't pass this class because I'm a bad teacher who's proud of the fact that my students don't understand the subject."

Pretty sure that first one is a reason why you SHOULDN’T drop the class.

Female teacher, likely in her late 30s-early 40s, suddenly stopped talking, broke into a full sprint, yelled "Don't close it!" before jumping and sliding across the computer table, just because she wanted to catch a student who had Facebook pulled up on his browser. Scared the guy shitless.

Me - "should we send this assignment in by email or physical copy?" English lecturer - "email, i will want all of your assignments sent in by email" Another student a few questions later - "should we print this assignment out and give it to you?" English lecturer - "yes it has to be printed and handed in to me"

"sit closer, I can't give you special treatment [just because you're completely deaf]" im pretty sure this is illegal

I had a sixth grade social studies teacher who had a doctorate. She was a bit strict, though nice, but the one thing that I didn't like was that she'd get so mad if you said "Mrs." Instead of "Dr.". She'd say the same thing every time: "i didn't get my dr. to be called mrs.". You didn't get your dr. to be a teacher at a *middle school* , but here you are.

I had a history professor at Camden County College, and he was my favorite professor of all time. First day of class he straight-up told everybody that the mandatory textbook hasn't been updated in over 80 years and it's filled with inconsistencies and information that is outdated. He taught us through his own power points and memory, and it was the most fun I've ever had in history. He was hilarious, generous but fair, and just a full person to be around. Especially when he would bring in his dog who had separation anxiety after the professor's wife passed. Hope he's doing well.

First day of class, prof says "Turn to page 394."

Teacher bragging on the first day about how low the pass rate is for their course = DROP

Insecure professor with a PhD and on a power trip isnt that unusual.

"I hate pre-meds the most" and "I will fail half of you. I will." tenured, of course

I remember on the first day of my AP Human Geography class some students were talking, and my teacher said “ is that y’all talking or is that the voices in my head “

I had an English professor who said that anyone who grew up in a home that spoke a language that wasn’t English, would never be proficient in reading or writing English because “it’s just a fact”. I grew up with two Spanish speaking parents, and had gotten a writing scholarship to that school for an essay I wrote in, what’ll you know, English.

My art teacher randomly disappeared and we later on found out it was because he was selling coke to the students

One of my history lecturers had a 10 minute argument with a partially deaf girl because he didn’t want to wear the lil microphone thing that literally every lecturer has to wear so that she can hear the lecture

"this class is just as a helper, you'll be doing the majority of the work by yourself at home"

The best prof I had actually gave us his Skype handle, if we needed help outside of class. I only used it once and only via chat, but he answered immediately clearing up what confused me, not only helping me understand, but also allowing me to carry on with other chapters. It probably only took 5 seconds out of his life, but it meant the world to me.

That cell phone thing in the beginning was actually pretty badass.

My PE teacher in 9th grade was fired and taken to court for sexually assulting the males in her classes.

Last year in Politics I was looking down at my desk. I don’t know if I was writing notes or what but I hear my Professor say “sorry am I not interesting enough for u to pay attention?” And since I wasn’t zoned out and felt that he was talking to me I look up and say “oh no I heard you :) ” Very politely. But He continues to pace the class and extremely sarcastically say “well maybe one day you’ll be interested in these discussions.” I raised my voice and was like “but I heard you >:0” I never talk back and it was very out of character for me but damn.. He tried to embarrass me in front of the class and well it didn’t work hah. Turns out every single student didn’t like him. I almost felt bad that everyone talked bad about him but at the same time, NOT REALLY

I love it! "Didn't need to talk to my wife anyway!" Best kind of madman, consistent and with a sense of humor.

One of my former middle school teachers hated pencils and threw them out the window. He always made us use pens. He was a math teacher.

It's probably in this video but i may have missed it: if the teacher brags about how difficult their class is and how many fail it, drop it. If a teacher is proud of being incompetent and not being able to pass a reasonable number of students, that should be a poor reflection of their ability to teach.

Chem professor (who wasn’t actually a licensed teacher) was going over the exam answers and came across one that no one had gotten right. He tried for 15 min but couldn’t figure out the correct answer.....He wrote the test himself.

My teacher was a narcissist and you could easily distract him by asking about himself. I was the only one who hated him because of his ego. One day, he decided to stop teaching in the middle of a lesson to ask everyone what they liked about him. When it came to my turn, I told him “I don’t like you,” and just left it like that. No, everyone did not clap. My table mates laughed because they didn’t really like him either and the rest of the class and the teacher moved on. Edit: thanks for the r/‘s but it’s truly did happen. It’s fine if you don’t believe me and post me for karma or whatever because you weren’t there and I guess it doesn’t sound believable. It was 2 years ago in my Exploring Careers class. He wanted to be a coach for the school but he was required to teach a class, so he chose exploring careers. Of course, always has to be coaches that are stuck up. Anyway, his response was: “well that’s fine if you don’t like me,” and then he moved on to ask the next person. It was an underwhelming response and didn’t include it in my original post. Every time we’d be going to class, he’d hold out his hand and make you shake it or else you weren’t allowed in the class. I would just give him a fist bump because he wouldn’t let me in unless I touched him in some form. Regardless, it was a miserable year for me and my table group didn’t really like him that much and we spent most of the time talking to one another.

Our teacher made us use our real names for Kahoot I mean how much more do you need to drop out

Had a Psychology professor who took up much of the first day condescendingly explaining that she would only answer to Doctor or Professor and that calling her "ma'am" was unacceptable. This was in Texas. Good luck with that. She also told us that an introvert is someone who does things for the approval of others while an extravert is someone who does things for self-driven, internal motivations. After that I started doing my coursework by figuring out the correct answer and then delivering the exact opposite. I passed with an A.

The first semester of college, took an English class. First two months was literally all about politics. Teacher tried to make us speak our views. Finally when we started doing essays, he wanted a specific structure that requires run on sentences. If you did not have the structure in the essay, it was an automatic D. Later on the year, he actually yelled at a poor student who asked a simple question. I guess he didn’t know the answer or conflicted with his political views and basically told him to shut up. Anyways, the class had 40 students in the beginning. When nearing the last 2 months, we had 6 students including me. He liked me because I followed his stupid ass structure and did all my work. The final was in class essay. Wrote a lot and found out he didnt even read it and gave me an automatic A. I mean, at least I got an A in the class but didnt learn anything

I had a chem 101 teacher hit on underage girls and offer to buy them alcohol and drugs. He would show up in pajamas to a 1:30 pm class and ask what the syllabus, that he wrote, said we would be learning that day. He nearly lit a kid on fire. He was probably hung over. When we reported him for inappropriate conduct, he failed the entire class. The highest grade was a 12%. Prior to reporting him, the same person had a 98.9%. Complete waste of a PhD

I had a chemistry teacher and every time I asked her a question she wouldn't answer it and say that in university I will need to learn to teach myself and would not answer the question.

I had a music teacher who made us watch drum line. Every day. For the whole semester. And only taught us when an administrator came in to observe. At least we all passed.

Just because you have a PhD, does not mean you can teach.

i dropped the class after my teacher made fun of my dead grandad.

At least that first Econ teacher stayed true to his own rule

"Red flags from teachers that screamed drop the class immediately" Teacher: You should drop the class and change your major I guess he's not wrong

Teacher here. Halfway through one course, I was moved to a different class and a new teacher parachuted in to replace me. After one lesson, my old class complained to me that the new teacher wasn't teaching them anything. Turns out, she'd spend each lesson talking at the class for two hours, never bothering to check they understood, and keeping meticulous notes about what she _thought_ she'd taught. And she told everyone all the time that she was the only properly trained teacher in the school. I asked her a question, and she made a formal complaint against me. Next day, she was fired. All of her students had gone to the boss, refusing to be taught by her. At the end of the course, the students filled out an assessment form. All the assessments started "Amanda is shit", "Amanda is a terrible teacher", "I hate Amanda".

"No one will get an A in this course" Excuse me?

We had a high school chemistry teacher that had the most worrying first lesson ever. She went around the lab and explained about the safety devices - how they work and when to use them. The thing is, for every single one of the safety devices she provided an example from her experience as a teacher. I was extra cautious knowing that in this very class someone had dangerous acid enter their eye, a girl's sweatshirt caught on fire, someone had shards of glass cutting them and more.

"this won't be in the exam"

I just realized how many channels are narrated by the same guy that dude is busy af

Professors should not be able to make students use a self published book.

Last year we were 40 students on X class, I knew the teacher, I knew that teached the material and her tests were very demanding, but when she teached X class, she said "this class is hard to understand", and we were like "cool, no problem", she then proceeds to assign a 3 part proyect, that required the first part to build the second part and so on, everything was fine, except when the conditions were said: -part 1 has to be done in 1 week, part 2 has to be done 2 weeks after part 1, part 3 has to be done one week after part 2 (that semester had some classes that were very heavy on the projects, but I still think it can be done) -the 3 parted proyect is not the final proyect (she wanted another proyect after we finished the massive one, and it was going to be massive as well, and only 2 weeks in total to do it) -you cant use libraries (if you know coding, then you know this is a nono, its litterally reinventing the wheel and programing everything from zero, its such a pain in the ass) -it has to have a graphic interface (the class didnt had a lot of experience programing things with GUI, but we still think it was doable), but she also said it had to blink or change colors and shit ENTER THE DATE WHEN WE HAVE TO DELIVER THE FIRST PART most of the classroom has not finished it, mostly because of the logic of the program but we really just needed more time, no one was even worried about the blinking/changing colors part I saw one of the students, who had the complete logic of the program, get rejected when he showed his project and the teacher said: "if it doesnt blink or change color, I will not accept it", later that day all the class was like "fml, so even if you get all the logic crap right, but you dont do the fancy blink stuff, you get a 0?" (if she rejects it its a 0) the teacher gave us one more week, needless to say, nobody had the fancy unneccesary stuff, she didnt accept the project, we all hated her at that point I had the first part of the project done after 3 weeks of working, without the unneccesary stuff, instead of the 1 she wanted, but knowing that she wasnt even going to accept it, I dropped the class, and then most of my classmates dropped (INCLUDING THE BEST STUDENT OF THE CLASS), only 12 remained IN CASE YOU ARE WONDERING: -we all understood the class, the logic, and that stuff, it was just complicated to program something like that without libraries -she didnt show us a single example of code, and all the classes were focused on working the logic in paper (wich didnt really help on the programing part) -she said she could do that project in 3 days (one weekend) with only one partner (we were groups of 3) HAPPY ENDING: -the 12 remaining people passed, because the higher ups noticed the massive drop by students, and basically told her to chill down the class (now the project was required only till the second part and the other stuff became an investigation) -the classmates who dropped and me, took the class in vacations and managed to get a pretty cool teacher, she makes sure we all understand the logic of the stuff, provides sample codes, lets us use the libraries and even some other tools to code! and individually grades us by asking to explain our codes little by little, wich we gladly do, needless to say, we could do the 3 part proyect (wich was now just normal homework, and in the end would be the final proyect) in less than 4 WEEKS, AND WE EVEN MADE THE PROGRAMS WITH GUI (basically: graphic), so my other teacher can rot in hell.

I had a teacher ask me how many friends I had on Facebook and I told him I wasn’t on Facebook. His face 😂

I'll save you, I'm a doctor... OF PSYCHOLOGY!!! victim lays dead on psych couch.* So how does that make you feel?

teacher once marked me absent even though I was in class and when I asked her why she marked me absent she said it was because I was late... I was in class before she was

So I joined a course that was basically helping to build the sets of theatre productions as a college class. The first thing the graduate student that was teaching the course said; "Welcome to slave labor; the class!" Nope.

“I’m completely deaf” “sit closer” had me. Oh my goodness how on earth.

When my teacher told me "You're special in your own way"

My teacher tried to flirt with me. I’m homeschooled.

4:15 as a european student, I KNOW we are all lazy

My art teacher in high school “weeded out the weak” by dedicating the first two weeks of the class to art history. We were expected to copy EVERYTHING on the slide, memorize each piece’s name, artist and date with no spelling mistakes. We also had to know painting styles, historical or biblical references if the piece had any and various other stuff like that. The test was a good part of our grade, too. Overall my art teacher took 0 shit or excuses, wasn’t afraid to call out your shit, and would call your art shit if he felt it was shit and you weren’t trying. But he was also super passionate about art, he made learning about it fun, and he had a sense of humour. Skill level didn’t actually mean anything to him, he just wanted you to try your best, and love art as much as he did. A lot of students hated him, but I absolutely loved him. By far my favourite teacher in high school.

Dude I'd kill to have a Russian nuclear physicist as a professor

My freshman (high school) English teacher legitimately did not know that Shakespeare was British and told us that he grew up in the United States, in Maine. I'm still confused as to how she thought that.

A mathematics professor where he'd ask the answer to a question to a student and wouldn't continue until they amswered the question. He'd keep asking and nobody was allowed to help. He'd keep grilling them... He made a girl cry once.

My Latin American professor said and I quote: "The American Revolutionary War started with two ships blowing up...BOOM!" You think I'm playing but I am not.

I had a teacher like that. Two absences and the best grade you could get was a C, assuming you got an A on everything. This one girl showed up in crutches and a cast a week later. She got in a car accident, brought all proof. Best she could get was a C. She dropped the class. He was a great teacher but that’s honestly an asshole thing to do in my opinion.

This is why rate your professor is a god send. Avoid the crazy and get the good ones.

My best teacher: a philosophy teacher in high school who was super enthusiastic, she made all the class love philosophy, we were really worried if she was absent and she always gave helpful feedback and advices on our exams paper. My worst teacher: an old college teacher who would always use 1/2 of the time of the class to criticise my "generation of lazy and entitled youngsters", ask us to buy the 50€ book that he wrote if we wanted more "enlightenment", no one ever had good grades with him because the exams were basically russian roulette with him...

Professor: w- Student: *Do you accept financial aid?*

(College) when your teacher refuses to work with your accommodations, even though both you and the Accessibility/Disabilities Center have informed them that you need your accommodations to succeed in the class. If they refuse your accommodations (which they have to abide by legally), then drop the class and report them immediately. Chances are you aren’t the only student who’s accommodations aren’t being met by that teacher.

I have taught college classes. I do NOT understand the professors/teachers who think only a few students should get A's in their classes. If the students don't understand what you're teaching, the problem is with you and you need to do a better job teaching. Though to be fair, I have had one or two classes that, as a whole, were just a bit more dim than the usual baseline.

I just remembered another story. We had a new teacher join the school. She laid down her ground rules for the class. No talking. No drinking from our water bottles. No going to the bathroom. And no sneezing. Oh and here's the kicker. Automatic 6 hours of detention for getting a C in her class.

Boy, you guys bring back memories! I’m 67 and when I had algebra in junior high - 8th grade I think - we had a non-teacher who was more of an intimidator than anything else. He was a tall hulk of an individual with a buzz cut and a heavily pock marked face, and he used to shamble into class and mutter “Next chapter” and then walk out & leave us to teach ourselves until he showed up about an hour later. Thank God we were a well behaved class. And we all passed because none of us made a fuss. Well, here’s the punchline. I have a sibling a great deal younger than I, say 15 years, and whaddaya know? This “teacher” was still there and got my sib’s class. Now it just so happened that Parent Teacher Conference Day came around and Mom was in the hospital. So guess who went to the Conferences - Yours Truly! It must have been the first time ever that there was a “Parent” who could answer with authority when he called my sib a rotten kid and a lousy student. You have no idea the pleasure it gave me to say:

My teacher mark me absent, when I'm present in the class...

My teacher said that chem trails were turning the frogs gay

i hate when teachers say stuff like "this class is really hard" or "a lot of you will fail or drop out." like congrats, you're bad at your job

I've had plenty of bad teacher experiences but one that I always regret would be in 2012. In class, the Olympic torch was to pass by that day where the college was. About 5 min walk away. I asked about leaving early to see it. (about 1 1/2 hrs to day over out of 6 hrs. Said I could come back after.) She said no and if I leave she'd mark me as absent for the whole day. I had a 100% attendance at the time and didn't want to ruin that. Hell I had come in the day after one of my cats died to keep it there. Wish I had left though, as it was a once in a lifetime opportunity. I doubt I'll ever get the chance to see it in person again.

The Konstantin Makarov one was badass. I'd take a course if the professor was named like that.

Had an economics professor. Between two classes of 50ish students, 10 people got less than a 10% on our midterm exam (ya boi got a 7%, and my buddy legitimately got a 0%). He said that 8 students got above a 90% and that was the best he's ever seen since teaching there. If that wasn't enough, 3 of the 8 students that got an A later got caught cheating.

So usually, when professors say "too many students got A's last semester so i had to change the syllabus", they usually have the school administration up their ass. Not sure why, but that's usually the case.

Signed up for classes for this fall. One of my professors had multiple assignments due on the very first weekend and required the first chapter of the textbook to already be read. Alright, not too bad, but then I learned he was going to put a 30-60 SECOND TIME LIMIT PER EXAM QUESTION on exams. I have anxiety. As soon as I noticed another prof open, I dropped that class like a hot potato. New prof was joking about illegal PDFs, had a vid of Snoop Dogg telling us to read our syllabus, and was playing chill music when I joined the Zoom. Yeah, I made the right choice.

For me I once had a child psychology class in a summer semester. The professor said that we had to study a child from the age of 2 to 7 years old. During summer...when standard schools were out. He said if you don't know any people with kids in that age group that it sucks for you because the assignment was around half the class and without it you auto failed. Supposedly nearly the entire class dropped it. I sure as hell did lol.

Stayed after because I didn't understand the assignment. Got molested... Dropped class, reported him.

I once had a teacher that at the beginning of the semester stood up and said, " I find it interesting that the moment a test comes around everybody's grandparents starts dropping like flies. So from now on a dead grandparent is no excuse to miss a test." Guess what happened by my second test in that class? I dropped out when she wouldn't let me go to his funeral

a friend of mine wrote an essay that took up a fairly notable part of her grade. her professor gave it a c, purely because ‘not everyone can get an a’. he basically just… picked a random essay… and gave it a c. my friend later consulted a different professor (at the same school) about it; the prof she went to legit said it was one of the best student essays he had ever seen. to be fair, she did go to a bad university

My big horror stories are : a college math teacher who never once looked at the class, just stood up at the board, scribbled examples, and read from the textbook in a monotone voice that put me to sleep on an energy drink high... Instant drop. Also had this Spanish guy who was teaching Japanese... I was already fluent after a couple of years studying abroad in Japan, so i took the course for an easy credit. By the midway mark through the semester, he had ME teaching the class, while he did random shit on his computer. For fucks sake man...I took this course for an easy credit... don't make me do YOUR job!

0:30 I agree. EVERY TIME I hear some shit like this, I drop the class. My mother had a professor like this in college and she tells me to avoid those types like the plague.

Yeah I'm currently in a class with the "2 absences and you fail" policy, on top of "if you're even 5 minutes late you're considered abscent". It's a required course for my major and it get snapped up quickly because it is the ONLY class offered because there's only one professor that teaches it. Also, a friend and I decided to drop a class at the exact same moment when we look at each other after being asked for the 5th time by a professor of basic IT if we liked "fast computers", and then being forced to verbally respond "yes" before the professor would move on.

When I was first starting out taking French in high school (like, super beginner baby French, this was really the first time I'd experienced the language), the usual teacher was out on maternity leave (she was gone for, like, a year) and the school had trouble finding someone to fill in. They found a man who was from the Congo. He spoke eight languages but still wasn't completely fluent in English. When my classmates and I came in on the first day, he started speaking to us in full French, and we kind of just had to sit there and stare at him until he got the idea. Don't get me wrong, he was an incredibly nice man, and I actually ended up doing really well in the class. But a lot of the other students probably should have dropped, because the language barrier was really hard to get past sometimes. He didn't always understand us, either, and a few of them just stopped trying to use French. They'd answer his questions in English, usually incorrectly, and try to indicate to him that they didn't know what was going on, but he didn't always notice. Everyone would get frustrated and confused (except the teacher, who I swear was the king of optimists.) I loved his class, but he tended to be a little oblivious sometimes, because he didn't understand us very well. As the semester went on, he finally started to catch on that one of the girls in my class wasn't really trying, as she kept answering in English and ignoring his lectures to text on her phone. Once when she was insisting on ignoring his request to answer the question in French, he sighed and said, "Please, just say anything in French." The girl put down her phone and said, "I la hate this la class." And the poor man smiled and clapped. "Ah. 'La classe.' Very good."

I had an anti-vax substitute teacher. she was basically an old lady who just wanted to talk rather than teach. she got onto the topic of her family somehow, and she says the her nephew was 'completely normal' until he had a vaccine that turned him autistic.

I remember in 7th grade, my math teacher was absent, so obviously, we had a sub. It was this old lady who was already talking with some of the students who made it before me. I thought okay, this sub seems nice The sub gives us a math quiz. We’re cool, since our math teacher warned about the quiz the day prior Next thing we know, she’s actually encouraging us. She legit gives like the greatest speech, saying things like what we learn today, will help us prosper in the future ahead of us and stuff. It was beautiful. We clapped for the speech, and did the quiz And after the quiz, she let us play music from one of our phones to celebrate our hard work Best substitute ever

I took advanced chem, my teacher didn't teach and just gave us the homework and told us to watch videos at home...... On the bright side, he had no back bone so we were able to get extensions on sooooooo many projects I also constantly had a sub that used to teach minors in juvie. Most badass teacher I ever had. She always gave us candy or some other reward if we did really well or went out of our way to help others. Actually helped teach us to help others.

Had a pre-calculus instructor that would fill 2 1/2 boards with a chain of calculations, while reciting what he was writing, then stop, stroke his beard, then say "no, that's not right," erase the boards and start over. Heard rumors that he smoked frequently, sometimes with students. Learned an important lesson: Math and Marijuana don't mix.

My French teacher gave me panic attacks almost daily, but no matter how many times I told the school about it they didn't care and just thought I didn't like the teacher. I skipped her lessons a few times but not that much, the principal retired and we got a new one, I told her and the teacher got fired because at least 6 people from her classes were complaining of mental abuse from her in lessons. My new teacher is crazy, but in a better way

Kinda feel like it should be against the rules for professors to force the students to use textbooks that the professors write.

I love that first teacher he reminds me of my creative writing teacher (who is freaking awesome) and he hated cellphones he once described the wind howling outside as the " wailing screams from his former students with cellphones in his class from hell", and another time he had his head down on the desk probably not feeling well or frustrated, I asked if he was ok and he said " I guess so, I think the cocaine is wearing off."

Jesus. This makes me appreciate my time in college. I had pretty much smooth sailing with my instructors. All knew what they were doing and were clear professionals with experience in the field.

Tbh school is just my second bedroom, I don't learn I just sleep

Bio professor called me out in front of 80 students for "cheating" when i was actually taking a long time filling out the scantron bubbles. i dropped it

One of my eighth grade teachers made fun of me because I was supposed to read my essay in front of the class (about twenty five kids in the class and only three had to present their essay.) I was really scared and started stuttering a lot. She literally went “y-you should s-s-speak up louder.”

my biology teacher just went around the room saying "i have enough degrees to raise your temperature" and "i dont reinvent the wheel" too bad it was in high school and I couldn't drop the class,,, she didn't put my missed work in her bin and said it was my fault that my "classmates stole it" she also just played youtube videos for like 25 minutes and the class wold be done. one quiz she gave us, no joke, the highest grade was a 22.5 update: today we were learning about phylogenies and stuff like that and no joke this woman (WHO HAS A MASTERS IN BIOLOGY AND IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON HER PHD) thought it was specie and not species... wtf???

The opposite here: I had a biology prof who spent the time and effort to not only give us the reading assignment for the current textbook, but took that and found and provided the equivalent readings in the two older editions so we didnt have to break the bank. I ended up paying $10 for the book when it would've been $200+