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Panzer Corps 2 Guide: From Good To Great - Heroic Exploits 1 

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In this latest guide to Panzer Corps 2, we will be covering Heroes that many would consider to be trash tier. In this first guide, we will be looking specifically at the Camouflage Hero and the Field Repairs Hero.
Prepare yourself for game-alteringly abusive ways to use these two seemingly unappealing heroes for maximum advantage...
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@fixpontt
@fixpontt 3 года назад
i think this field repair does not work anymore, if i dont have money and i want to overstrength the "upgrade" button is inactive for me at 12:36 where for you it is active, for me it shows that i need X money as requirement for you it only shows slot requirement
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
Yep, the problem is the dev watches my videos... lol. So yeah, unless you use an old version you can't make prototypes with field repairs anymore.
@admontblanc
@admontblanc 3 года назад
@@TheEdmon hmmm, even if the exploit part is fixed by devs, the hero ability is still valuable to replenish these high value, limited units that are hard to get extras of.
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
@@admontblanc Yep, it was fixed. Many things I've shown on this channel have been fixed. But still very useful.
@admontblanc
@admontblanc 3 года назад
@@TheEdmon I can do without exploits lol, I'm usually averse to cheesing games. Whenever I'm learning a game I do use cheats a plenty though, because it gives me insights into core mechanics faster, but then it loses its fun if you want to get serious. I only played a few missions, and I just started watching your videos because I went in blind first to see how well I could do on my own, but the game has a ton of details behind its seemingly simple gameplay. I can tell that the game is worth buying with just a few hours into it, maybe it's very niche, but it seems to be quite entertaining for a very long period.
@nougan_gamer
@nougan_gamer Год назад
@@TheEdmon Aww, found this video in Dec 2022... tried it and sad to find out (and confirmed by this thread) that this no longer works! Hehe...
@slaukajuraj6951
@slaukajuraj6951 3 года назад
I am using camuflage hero on AT. You can relativly easily destroy bunch of tanks if you posision artilery or recon behind river crossing and enemy will feed you several tanks a turn . As long as you destroy the attaking tank.
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
I do talk about this in the video. You can eat cake and have it here, by using the 8.8. Just convert it into AT mode once all the aircraft have been ruined.
@bugfuzz176
@bugfuzz176 3 года назад
@@TheEdmon If you put the AT Hero on 8.8 will it do both at same time? ( leave it in Barrel up mode) I have to test that , if that works with camo also would be devastating damage output
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
@@bugfuzz176 It will work as either the AA type or the AT type, depending on which mode you have it in, but it will do both yeah.
@desgath
@desgath 3 года назад
Keep 'em coming. I really enjoy this series and even restarted my Grand Campaign after learning from one of your videos that I can give all my recon and AT units Overrun through cross-class upgrades. Always happy to learn more dirty little tricks like that.
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
I am so glad to hear that :). It reminds me of when people said they started BT again just to try lights after I showed how powerful they were. I love it when people get to enjoy the game all over again, thanks to some bit of knowledge I provided :).
@hulladek3
@hulladek3 3 года назад
I got an exploit too. I play with no over strength , no repair in combat, max 3 upgrade. But if you stand on an upgrade circle, and select to upgrade for something then deselect it. You can upgrade it to the same unit even over strengthned.
@sebastiankrisch5191
@sebastiankrisch5191 3 года назад
If I remember correctly the field repair hero even can repair Karl and Gustav :-)
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
It can, but it can't be used to duplicate those as far as I know. Not 100% on that, as it's been a while since I played the basegame.
@sebastiankrisch5191
@sebastiankrisch5191 3 года назад
@@TheEdmon Ah, ok, than I missunderstud :-) I think duplicate is not possible because you can't overstrength it.
@admontblanc
@admontblanc Год назад
Unfortunately it seems like the field repairs exploit has been removed. I get why since you could just create prestige out of thin air using this trick, but it would be nice if you could still at least expand a stock pile of limited equipment you come by, you can't even buy a unit anymore unless the minimum strength is available on your stock. All they had to do was tweak their code a little so that you can't get a prestige refund for anything you didn't buy first. Better yet, they could make prototypes and captured units prestige free.
@IBN5100SG
@IBN5100SG 3 года назад
Ah, now I see how it works with Field Repairs. It's indeed an exploit, but that's going to require quite a lot of setup. All the manual clicking before the mission aside to put prestige into storage, it also really requires a Zero Slots, or at least Reduced Slot hero for those most juicy targets, as the slot cost stays higher, so 203mm artillery for example takes up those 12 slots to get going.
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
I never got a zero slots hero in my current grand campaign... maybe in the future though!
@LorenTR
@LorenTR 3 года назад
AI can't handle heroes. It was shown at your close defense tutorial already.
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
To be fair, pretty much all A.I.'s in all games can't handle what players can do...
@scottmathieson2324
@scottmathieson2324 3 года назад
Great video looking forward to more sneaky stuff.
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
I will see what I can add.
@PECKATOP
@PECKATOP 3 года назад
You can't take out their whole air force in one turn because you only have 4 ammo... This hero is extremely obscure and I only received it once. AA veteran allows you to shoot down their air force regardless. I never leave home without it and I never worry about being bombed. Even on maps with vicious enemy air force (All USA maps), it would take you about 5-6 turns to take down their whole airforce when combined with your own fighters.
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
The 8.8cm shown here has only 4 ammo, however, you could also use a 75mm. This has 22 air attack instead of the 8.8's 24, so very little difference and you get 5 ammo. The real weakness of the 75mm is that it has lower range, but if you are using some artillery as bait that won't matter. There is also of course, the machinegun AA which has 6 ammo and 2x fire built in. They won't hurt strategic bombers but they will devour everything else. 4 aircraft is actually as many as most maps have able to reach you on turn 1. If you can one shot 4 planes on turn one, that's huge. Or cripple them so badly your fighters can just sweep in and hose them down. Needing 5-6 turns to clear the airforce is what you'd need if you were playing normally and just using fighters and AA as you'd expect. If you are executing this correctly, 1 turn is all you are going to need to bury a huge amount of aircraft. You may need 1 more to clean out further aircraft, later on, deeper into the map (assuming the A.I. is not allowed to rebase the aircraft that are further back).
@kurr2kurr561
@kurr2kurr561 3 года назад
2 good examples of using the hero ability well, until you then exploit the game mechanics on the back of example 2. I like to find out about using mechanics better but not a fan of exploits and never will be
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
I said this to another person, but everyone has a level at which something clever is too much of an exploit for them. There are disadvantages to this, which is namely that the unit you are cloning is not in the battle and is often both expensive in slots and money. Plus you need to have no money in hand for it to work, which means you can't repair in battle, without some fiddling around. I do know vastly worse exploits, that are basically on the levels of cheating, but they were reported to the dev and have already been fixed in the latest build :).
@basgroenewegen9084
@basgroenewegen9084 3 года назад
Rly cool stuff!
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it.
@AX78Conch
@AX78Conch 3 года назад
I think the Camo exploit isn't really a secret. It's been discussed in several AARs already, so most seasoned players already knew about it. The replicator abilities of the Field Repairs was new for me though, nice find
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
Well, one mans secrets is another mans common knowledge... sometimes :).
@AX78Conch
@AX78Conch 3 года назад
@@TheEdmon haha, true. I keep forgetting that most casual player likely won't ever touch the slitherine forums or even the steam forums for such info
@duedman-alleswasknallt5775
@duedman-alleswasknallt5775 3 года назад
hello sir. I didnt think the use of the camo hero was such a secret. But its incredibly powerful due to the stupidity of the AI. The 8.8 is the perfect unit for it since after wrecking the enemy air it continues wrecking enemy tanks. But I would strongly advise against using the double support hero on it. Simply because it only has 4 ammo. In the example in your videos you would have killed 2 planes with no ammo for the third. I learned that lesson when using the 8.8 as AT support in AO 1940 DLC vs. De Gaulles Army. I did 2-shot those overstrengh tanks. But with doing that I cleared the space for the follow ups. Two 2-shots means zero ammo. It didnt went too well for my seemingly well protected tanks
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
If your unit fires twice, it often means a single hit would not be fatal. If you are out to 100% shoot down aircraft, then it can still be wise to use double support. It is situation dependant though, to be certain.
@duedman-alleswasknallt5775
@duedman-alleswasknallt5775 3 года назад
@@TheEdmon Yeah. But as great as completely dead units are, usually its better to cripple 4 than to wipe 2. At least in my experience. Like I said, the third plane would have went unopposed in the video with double support on your 8.8 . Not having AA Veteran as Hero Trait changes things a bit. In its usecase purely vs planes and not AA Vet double support is nice. But if u expect to use it a lot vs tanks as well I'd recommend overstrengthening it to 12 and just not take the double support As mentioned, the trap for De Gaulles 6 or more OS Tanks worked very well. Until they sucked the 8.8 dry and even killed one of my frontal tanks - due to the double support KILLING the first attackers. Crippling would have been fine, cuz it wouldve blocked the hex. Killing them was really bad :)
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
@@duedman-alleswasknallt5775 Maybe wise to pick a different AA gun, one with more ammo... interestingly, this might be a good way to unlock higher levels of skilled support.
@ericmiller7963
@ericmiller7963 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this guide Ed. What would be your recommendations for the artillery support hero (Andreas Schultz)? I was thinking of putting him on one of my pioneer units since my pioneers are always in the thick of things and artillery and fighters already support other units. What are your thoughts?
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
I had planned to do more, maybe I will in the need future. The repairs trick has been patched out of the game now though... What is the name of the ability on the hero you have? If it is literally artillery support (soft) then you can put it on any ground unit and that unit will defend the units next to it against soft attacks. It can be super useful on a 21cm gun, because that artillery does not have anti-soft.
@ericmiller7963
@ericmiller7963 3 года назад
@@TheEdmon a brief evaluation of each hero would be great as there is SO little info on them that I could find. The hero ability was called "artillery support". It didn't mention whether it was hard or soft support but I assumed it meant that the unit with Andreas Schultz as a hero would support adjacent friendly units much like artillery does but I may have assumed incorrectly.
@TheEdmon
@TheEdmon 3 года назад
@@ericmiller7963 Artillery Support is anti-soft. Anti-hard is called AT Support.
@ericmiller7963
@ericmiller7963 3 года назад
@@TheEdmon Oh ok ty. I'm a bit of a noob lol. I played and LOVED Panzer General but I think I've forgotten more than I learned heh. I appreciate your input and your videos are brillian!