Papa Roach live | Rockpalast | 2018

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Papa Roach live | Rockpalast | 2018 | Setlist
1. Crooked Teeth 00:00:00
2. To Be Loved 00:04:10
3. Getting Away With Murder 00:07:41
4. Between Angels And Insects 00:11:27
5. Face Everything And Rise 00:16:46
6. Gravity 00:20:32
7. Periscope 00:25:43
8. Broken Hime 00:29:27
9. My Medication 00:33:56
10. Help 00:38:11
11. Traumatic 00:41:59
12. Song 2 00:48:52
13. Forever 00:51:28
14. Falling Apart 00:56:24
15. Born For Greatness 01:00:27
16. Scars 01:06:12
17. None Of The Above 01:09:46
18. Last Resort 01:13:18
Line up
Jacoby Shaddix - vocals
Jerry Horton - guitar, backing vocals
Tobin Esperance - bass, backing vocals
Tony Palermo - drums
Anthony Esperance - keys, guitar, percussion, backing vocals
The concert was recorded on August 18 in 2018 at the Summer Breeze Festival in Dinkelsbühl, Germany.

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@aRoughLanding 5 лет назад

Respect to Papa Roach. So many years playing and they still show so much energy!

@javtimestwo 5 лет назад

this is why they have lasted so long. they are outstanding musicians but they never take a night off from the stage. each concert is 150% effort and the fans have appreciated that over the years. they are amazing live in concert and the songs are just as great.

@NobleAss 5 лет назад

Same as Green Day. limp Bizkit is not so energetic cause Fred moving like old tired trucker and looks like Ben Affleck but his vocals still in shape.

@mattmartineau6018 5 лет назад

No google on his age, but, he's starting to look near my age... (40's) Watching this for 25 mins: OBVIOUSLY, my info is off... can't be over 25... But, song history would make me a liar. Never been a fan, but, maybe they deserve that I be one.

@libertariominarquistaancap3480 5 лет назад

25 years of career!!!

@ankaboyko960 5 лет назад

действительно, столько лет играют, а до сих пор так и не научились)))

@usmcsemperfidelis5405 4 года назад

This man to this day still sings his heart out, so proud to be a fan.

@EnglishEloquenceMoscow 3 года назад

Fuck me, not a single comment. Not like you needed one, but I fully support.

@lpsoldier78 2 года назад

Dude had vocal surgery and got a vocal coach after destroying his voice early in his career. Sounds so much better now and sings a much safer style.

@suarezjulia1741 2 года назад

Still is 2022

@cutelikedrugs 2 года назад

I would highly recommend seeing Papa Roach live at least once. The energy, the power, the magnitude of Jacoby, it all rubs off on the crowd. Such a great performer.

@Not_Sal Год назад

@@cutelikedrugs just saw Papa Roach live a couple months ago for the first time, they put on one hell of a show

@chacehenderson9800 2 месяца назад

Jerry yelling i wil flyyyy is such a good vocal bit

@sixsixsix708 4 года назад

I can´t understand how his voice is still THAT good after all this time

@simonwtong 4 года назад

Think he had vocal cord surgery somewhat recently

@sixsixsix708 4 года назад

@@simonwtong it really worked lol

@JustJoshLTRB 3 года назад

He's had 2 surgeries for polyps on his vocal chords. This forced him to work with vocal coaches to learn to sing properly and how to take care of his voice. Best thing that's happened for him.

@sixsixsix708 3 года назад

@@JustJoshLTRB Yeah, its so nice to hear him singing like that

@GiovanniMarraschi 3 года назад

@@JustJoshLTRB And some musics they change the tune to a lower tone to make easier to sing.... a good example is Blood Brothers... that is not in this show but you can notice the change in the tune... nothing to complain about... still amazing! love this band!

@daniestrijdom8248 4 года назад

how the hell does he sounds so good for so long, this guy is a rare gem

@RaurXDberry 3 года назад

He took care his voice that all it is , he sing properly and although sound like he pushing his voice he not I mean at times sure but not alot he using his voice safely

@Divine_Serpent_Geh Год назад

He is a monster.

@RaurXDberry Год назад

@My Music and Video Channel I been doing music years and had training etc. So I know what I'm talking about

@nevamore1984 Год назад

@@acousticsound7 The davil told him, bitch! 🤭🤣

@tomsawyer1999 Год назад

Not sure if you listened to Last Resort but his voice is not so great. He’s pretty much out of tune the entire song. He pulls out his right ear piece near the end as if he’s trying to find his pitch but it never happens. I’ll give him big props for his energy though! Hell, I certainly couldn’t sing it any better!

@wenceslouiecuyos4160 5 лет назад

57:04 "Do not make a permanent decision to a temporary problem" -Jacoby Shaddix

@mororomo5454 5 лет назад

Wences Louie Cuyos that sentence was the most touching thing ... standing in the crowd, tearing up and seeing all around you people who did the same. .

@NobleAss 5 лет назад

Oh, i didn't watch this video yet but i saw this moment before. So emotional.

@kanejarrett1671 5 лет назад

Wasn't it Phil Donahue who said that?

@kanejarrett1671 5 лет назад

@@jord9261 how is it a quote from someone who took their own life? It's literally saying "don't commit suicide"...

@kriskit86 4 года назад

But what if the problem is permanent?

@Replicaate 2 года назад

Damn. I'm not a P-Roach fan by any means but I'm always blown away by how impressive their live show is. Bands half their age don't work this hard. Credit where it's due!

@abilesimo1 Год назад

How tf are you NOT a Papa Roach fan? You have some terrible taste my dude…💔

@Divine_Serpent_Geh Год назад

I love them a lot more now than I did when I was a bit younger. The live show is self-explanatory, if you’ve never seen them, you MUST. Their energy is just that huge!

@jacobyshaddix9648 4 года назад

I'm really pleased with this one. Hair was on point

@Shawn3495 4 года назад

Lmao legend.

@geraldpolzinjr9670 4 года назад

🤣😂👍

@Patrick-jj5nh 3 года назад

I love the idea of you reviewing all old shows over lockdown based on hair metrics haha. No seriously, thanks for that Chester Bennington tribute in this set, I read you are now doin this regularly. So appreciated. Much love.

@scaron121 3 года назад

You are jacoby shaddix. Your hair dident fall once. Love you guys. You rocked when I first found you in 99 and to this day I still jam you out when I'm sad happy or in between. Love you so much dont stop. Roach from day 1

@colinmacdonald7854 3 года назад

God bless Jacoby!!! Been watching your spiritual journey for quite some time now Jacoby... Its beautiful to see you beat your past and walk out the other side professing the name of Christ! Keep it going i love how that is reflecting in your new music!

@daves.7150 5 лет назад

Jacoby still has an amazing voice and live presence.. So many great artists who've been doing this for 20+ years either no longer are able to illicit the same crowd energy or simply don't have the voice they used to have... major props

@jonaswolf2828 3 года назад

best profile picture bro

@cynicald380 2 года назад

This band are probably my all time fav. I totally agree with your sentiments mate. Couldnt say it better myself

@tabathastaples7884 2 года назад

Shepherd's Chapel Network !!!!!!! Pastor Murray is an Anointed Servant of GOD who teaches the Word of GOD with Authority!!!!!!!

@user-zr6zk8ue8v 2 года назад

My elementary school… lyrics spoke to me. Greetings from Croatia to all the legends

@inessagladki7260 5 лет назад

Er hilft mir aus Depressionen raus zu kommen sehr geile Musik uns stimme und Energie das er hat echt Hammer dieser Mann Daumen hoch 👍

@talsarig5058 5 лет назад

The crowd during the first song: "I don't know this song I'm not going to jump or dance" *10 songs later* "I don't know this song either but let's go crazy anyway" Just goes to show that a frontman is much more than just being a great singer. His enegy is off the charts

@aitor8851 5 лет назад

How u describe it sounds more like they were doing drugs xd

@DiegoVinals 4 года назад

happened to me in Madrid 2019, went to a festival, and only knew two or three songs, but felt like i knew all of them. I loved them so much I went this past February to their show, it was fucking awesome

@AlexM-dz7wg 4 года назад

yep just compare crowd in 4:50 and 47:55 i think its two different gigs lol

@valepose30 3 года назад

Facts

@valepose30 3 года назад

Facts

@polones520 4 года назад

Jacoby the best vocal🎶🎧☻

@ChemiiOneLegacy 5 лет назад

Jacoby is the best front man of a generation, always on point.

@jacobyshaddix9648 4 года назад

🙋‍♂️

@kleschtremania 3 года назад

@@Gloth_Sang but he has energy, thats more important than being on pitch.. and in some songs he hits it quite nicely

@maximilianrentschler388 5 лет назад

He canot be older. Hes like 25. Powerful performence and stunning crowd awakening.

@reginafallangie2867 5 лет назад

Maximilian Rentschler, he almost 43 and better than ever!!

@antivist1481 5 лет назад

Papa Roach once again proving why they are one of the best bands in the world. The amount of energy and work they give into every show, the values and respect they radiate, the emotions they share are all incredible feats of an incredible band. Few other bands can do what they do and for me they will always number one because they never take what they have for granted. VIVA LA CUCARACHA!

@mattmartineau6018 5 лет назад

First few songs, didn't recognise them, but, sounds with "scars" the one I've heard. Music isn't bad. Energy with it. Papa Roach, about 3-4 hits in my area. INITIAL view, I THOUGHT this was WAKEN Open air. IMO: Best way to listen to music is : a) sober, detached, sober, hunting. b) drunk, detached, drunk, hunting c) medicated for pain, and, lucid. d) reading the lyrics, clear minded, w/o the music. (How I got to appreciate Eminem's music, but, not his style)

@salomondeleeuw 5 лет назад

Metallica is so much better of a band

@xcalibertrekker6693 5 лет назад

Love there music but after seeing this I would not pay to see them live.

@sackofcheez766 5 лет назад

1. Crooked Teeth 00:00:00 2. To Be Loved 00:04:10 3. Getting Away With Murder 00:07:41 4. Between Angels And Insects 00:11:27 5. Face Everything And Rise 00:16:46 6. Gravity 00:20:32 7. Periscope 00:25:43 8. Broken Home 00:29:27 9. My Medication 00:33:56 10. Help 00:38:11 11. Traumatic 00:41:59 12. Song 2 00:48:52 13. Forever 00:51:28 14. Falling Apart 00:56:24 15. Born For Greatness 01:00:27 16. Scars 01:06:12 17. None Of The Above 01:09:46 18.Last Resort 01:13:18

@anchoi3662 5 лет назад

You're a god

@em1ssaryy 5 лет назад

14 linkin park in the end 15 Falling Apart 00:56:24

@Fatality2k6 4 года назад

In the last resort song there's a small part of infest song

@rhudman0312 4 года назад

With a hint of Infest.

@FPlevako 4 года назад

Bless you

@valeraprovotorow753 5 лет назад

Брат Тобина - просто находка для коллектива! Я никогда не хотел их видеть впятером, но тут... Энтони просто красавчик)))

@montal1409 5 лет назад

This is one of the best Papa Roach's perfomances I've seen in while! Also Anthony is doing an amazing job.

@marciosga1 4 года назад

Live Chicago dvd

@cynicald380 2 года назад

Is Anthony the session guitarist keys chap?

@M4GT3 Год назад

Thr bass is so awesome 💯

@rgalves9356 4 года назад

Jacoby's voice is amazing! Papa Roach is amazing as well! 🤘🏻

@yurigarcia2000 4 года назад

One of the best band you can see live. So much energy. Always sick performance in the shows.

@user-yr1ol3rf6j 5 лет назад

По-моему, идеальное живое выступление!

@derekjaeger5592 4 года назад

Jacoby Rules! PR has been putting on legit shows forever and still getting better. CALI band.

@zhenya7813 5 лет назад

Ааа, огонь, энергометр зашкаливает! Ребят, приезжайте, пожалуйста, в Минск

@doraromantini 5 лет назад

Shaddix is a monster

@jacobyshaddix9648 4 года назад

👹🍆🍆🍆

@enzodv13666 4 года назад

"Do not make a permanent decision to a temporary problem" 🙏🏻

@JazzyBonesTV 5 лет назад

"Gravity" always gives me goose bumps - such a powerful song!

@FabZ1892 4 года назад

agree! and how jerry sang was insane!

@layllasears 2 года назад

dont get me wrong, jacoby did absolutely amazing, but can we just appreciate how absolutely amazing everyone else did

@tomasagustinveravicentin7789 4 года назад

Damn, Jacoby is still singing pretty damn good!!

@jacobyshaddix9648 4 года назад

Thanks Tomas💪

@Rogland 4 года назад

no he does not, fucking clown!

@bloodbag2961 4 года назад

Rogland Karl That‘s your own stupid opinion

@Rogland 4 года назад

@@bloodbag2961 not a single note is clean here mate!!!

@bloodbag2961 4 года назад

Rogland Karl He sings live what do you expect??

@maxfresh_1 2 года назад

ЛУЧШИЕ!!!

@user-zx5vv4rk7n 5 лет назад

Мечтаю о том, чтобы так каждый музыкант выступал

@grimeyshred 5 лет назад

that tribute to chester at the end of forever

@VegetaAlex 5 лет назад

deth_blunt why didn’t Linkin park use him for their one night for Chester!? He would of been perfect! Imagine Mike and him together on stage

@bratsogamiolis6977 5 лет назад

fuck, he did such a brilliant mix between these 2 songs , fuckin amazing

@stephenk6116 4 года назад

Uh, they played Last Resort at the end. How is that a tribute to Chester?

@akiraduran3765 4 года назад

Stephen K it clearly says AT THE END OF FOREVER not at the end of the show

@raydog_97 3 года назад

Stephen K 🤦‍♂️

@RockMusicTica 5 лет назад

Tobins brother in the back is like a backup one-man-band with his singing, playing drums and bass. They should let him be a full member. Awesome dude!

@PeradonCentury 4 года назад

I fucking LOVE that this guy is still putting effort in his vocal performances. So many of the bands i loved in the late 90's early 2k's are just fucking phoning it in right now. Just point the mic at the crowd and let the fans sing. Case in point, VNV Nation. Fuck off mate.

@tapoutorbleedout09 5 лет назад

I love "Falling Apart", kind of a rare gem as far as their setlists normally go ... then again they got practically an hour and a half! They deserve a full set time after all these years. P Roach rarely disappoints

@omaryanezzavala7640 5 лет назад

tapoutorbleedout09 that song is one of my favorite song by them.and the whole album of F.E.A.R. I like it.

@davidacot4351 3 года назад

incredible performance Jacoby is such a great performer.

@ZazeeGaming 5 лет назад

They still rock!!! Great sound! awesome!!

@user-ub8ed3se6d 3 года назад

Как люди работают! На всю катушку! Молодцы!

@KatyaShaddix666 4 года назад

Привет, я Катя, мне 18 и я обожаю этих ребят. Уже лет 8 слушаю их и не перестану. Есть русские тут?

@freeman7079 5 лет назад

These guys are in their 40s!!! Damn, they look good!!!

@articgoneape 5 лет назад

I knew he could sing, but dang!!! Love his live vocals!

@unknownunknown-hj6bf 3 года назад

I love how forever turned into in the end I LOVE YOU CHESTER

@flpcarvalho Год назад

PAPA ROACH MAKE PART OF MY LIFE......THIS SONGS MAKE ME FEELS MORE STRONG TO HARD TIMES...EVERY ALBUM!!!

@chickenfortress7956 4 года назад

These guys are legends bro...so underrated yet they thrive with their music so proudly never minding being or not in the top charts. I salute you Papa Roach!

@-Dragonfyr- 5 лет назад

56:23 - "Do not make a permanent decision to a temporary problem"... 35 male... i'm nearly in tears! Always have and always will have great respect for Jacoby / Papa Roach. Great video, thank you.

@nickmainprice473 4 года назад

i respect you papa roach thank you times a million i love you so much

@TheKeseg Год назад

I just saw this and i am blown away how good and full of energy they still are. Dont get me wrong but we all aging and it’s crazy to keep this pace for over 20 years.

@fingerlingcp9539 5 лет назад

прекрасный трек-лист!!!!надеюсь в Минск приедут тоже!!!!!!))))))

@thedeadmanfan09 5 лет назад

Best performance from Papa Roach ive ever seen. I wish they performed Break The Fall live tho

@omaryanezzavala7640 5 лет назад

thedeadmanfan09 "If I lose it all and nothing's gonna break the fall" great song, great line. Desde México te saludo.

@user-dl9vv4nq2k Год назад

OMG he sings 100% perfect! I want Papa Roach coming to Krasnodar city (south of Russia) again, 2 past times I was on these concerts! But I understand now its impossible (((

@user-dl9vv4nq2k Год назад

I hope it will be possible in the future! ❤

@pitreport.official Год назад

Auf dem Summerbreeze rappelt es einfach ordentlich im Gebälk. 🤟🤟 Großer Sport, liebe Pit-Crew!! 🫶

@jakerosenbaum8549 4 года назад

The passion behind every note, lyric, drum beat. its inspiring

@MeteorRed 5 лет назад

RESPECT! FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE! ♥

@marcuswillwohl8633 5 лет назад

Saw myself in the circle pit at 5:27. What a great concert!

@jakewilliams9454 5 лет назад

Singer has taken great care of his voice!

@KinzPedro 5 лет назад

Incredible how good they are live!!

@weclassymorons1347 5 лет назад

Jacoby’s voice is so emotional.

@romanisticlip.8865 4 года назад

Jacoby shaddixx my inspiring,he is monster..!

@josephkhajo9773 5 лет назад

1:15:30 that pain in his eye and his voice when he said that line... broke me down

@miserymedia 4 года назад

Jeeze, the vocals on Medication are perfection

@vrecruiter5059 4 года назад

He sings absolutely amazing in live!!

@CARLOSRAMIREZ-kb4hp 2 года назад

solo los he visto una vez en vivo y he de decir que son absolutamente geniales, muchas bandas de hoy tienen mucho que envididiar a Papa Roach por la calidad y energía que derrochan en cada presentación

@varganchik 5 лет назад

Не перестаю восхищаться Коби. Сколько лет прошло, а он продолжает выплёскивать такое количество энергии на сцене.

@NobleAss 5 лет назад

А я в 28 как мешок с говном. Надо брать пример с мужика.

@wohendekntowoeth4725 5 лет назад

@@NobleAss А почему именно с Коби? Остальные в свои годы тоже нормально выглядят

@NobleAss 5 лет назад

@@wohendekntowoeth4725, ну так видео с концерта папа роч. Под видео с каким-нибудь Томом Крузом я бы написал что надо брать пример с Круза.

@wohendekntowoeth4725 5 лет назад

@@NobleAss Но Коби- это не вся группа

@NobleAss 5 лет назад

@@wohendekntowoeth4725, но он зажигает на порядки больше остальных. В ac/dc, например, это гитарист делает.

@user-nm5qc2qz9q 3 года назад

Классный концерт! Респект из Молдавии, Украины и России))

@Dravis_116 5 лет назад

So I went to a FFDP show and these guys were opening for em. I was pretty meh about seeing em but at the end of the night, everyone agreed, they stole the show. They were so much better than FFDP it wasn't even close. If you haven't seen Papa Roach live yet... Do it. They will blow your expectations outta the water.

@joshuaback1423 5 лет назад

They opened for Shinedown and did the same.Can't wait to see them again!!

@-xlntc91x- 5 лет назад

Same here, dude! Ffdp has no energy on stage, especially Ivan Moody. Jacoby just blew them away. I admire this guy for his dedication.

@wulf2863 4 года назад

damn, so sad that nowadays papa roach open for bands when back then they used to headline arenas :l

@tomasagustinveravicentin7789 4 года назад

Can't believe that they had to open for such a lame band lol

@chickenfortress7956 4 года назад

Didnt even know who FFDP was...had to look it up LOOL

@leahkruse8498 Год назад

He still rocks since their first album..now that's tough years of metal.

@StonedSpagooter 5 лет назад

Of the bands iv seen they sounded the best hands down. Last Resort came on and I had to double check it was actually live. Quality concert experience.

@thewhitelion8326 2 года назад

Si pudiera darle un "me encanta" se los daria, pero solo hay un me gusta... Una de las bandas con la que crecí... Aun despues de 25 años siguen sonando espectacular... Mi apoyo a Papa Roach y que viva el Rock en la generación que sea 🤘

@jozefradvanszki 5 лет назад

the backing vocals of the guitarist on 'Gravity' are amazing

@jacobyshaddix9648 4 года назад

Lead vocals are better.

@andreakrause5960 4 года назад

I still love them. And I think I always will....

@Lucrossing 3 года назад

The whole band singing the chorus in Last Resort was so great.

@squesh2059 3 года назад

OMG ! I didnt know they have such a great performance ! Too much love for music involved, I can't wait to attend to one of their shows ! PS: Jacob still sing so well, that makes me very happy cause is so hard to keep the voice intact like he does... not all of singers can do that

@mat2093 Год назад

I just saw them. They are one of the best bands I have ever seen

@Yokz_tv 5 лет назад

Still sings great live, brings amazing vibe and great energy. Respect!

@jasonbradford4863 3 года назад

Lucky enough to see them live at carolina rebellion a few years back and they blew me away.

@perrap79 5 лет назад

Opened for Iggy Pop and RHCP when Californication came out. BLEW them off the stage! One of the best live-shows Ive seen. Dave Buckner back on the drums tho! 🤘🏼☺️

@CarlosHenrique-ty5lu 4 года назад

Impressionante performance insandencente de Jacoby Shaddix e banda, incrível 👏👏👏🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 Abril de 2020.

@JimmySatio 5 лет назад

i love how they add 2nd guitar/keys,make they music fuller

@domofficial4407 5 лет назад

Jimmy Satio actually they were using effect bass that sound like rymth guitar before they got 2nd guitarist. But yeah... the keyboard and more effect

@brandotirado2692 2 года назад

Holy shit! This was an amazing experience. I can't even imagine the emotions of the people who were actually there!! All hail Papa Roach 🙌

@SoCalChris 2 месяца назад

That damn intro to Last Resort was nothing short of 🔥.

@JacquiLiebtGreenDay 4 года назад

I absolutely love the band and Jacoby! They've been famous for so long but they still seem as excited as if they're new to it and still bringing the energy whilst being down to earth. I love them so much! Still can't believe how reading festival 2018 gave them a teeny tiny stage, This stage right here is the one they deserve!

@pokerynjke 5 лет назад

"Song 2" Rocks :) Big finger up if you think so!

@tyroz1344 4 года назад

So glad I live about 5 minutes away from this Festival 😄

@superunknown2812 2 года назад

One thing I can say is Jacob's vocals are still really good live considering they have been goin since the late 90s.Not very many artists in can still sound stellar at this point in there career.

@vaughanschoeman Год назад

They've actually been going since the early 90s, which only makes it better

@maurogonzalezinaqui6684 4 года назад

They look so powerful like no time has passed great performance !

@AustinZanzinger 5 лет назад

Never seen a live performance from these guys and I gotta say that I’m very impressed

@siekohorse 3 года назад

Jacoby, what do we love about you? Your honesty. Your undying faith in a better world and a better mindset. Don't you EVER give up. I won't.

@GuguSEP 5 лет назад

Que banda perfeita!!! Amo cada música desse setlist.

@PVLUHA789 5 лет назад

КРУТЯЯЯК!!!

@markcurtis8653 5 лет назад

ending to between angels and insects was sick

@johnlegend023 5 лет назад

Loved it

@raydog_97 4 года назад

This was the last show that they played Between Angels And Insects, Help, and Last Resort in a lower key. They now play these 3 songs in their original key again.

@WebTrash 3 года назад

immer noch geil! Grüße aus Berlin

@bonnycrane4199 5 лет назад

Thanks Papa for this great Support about depression..

@johnlemon543 5 лет назад

2018 and still going strong! Amazing!

@Matt-mu6ml 2 года назад

Jerry Horton is such a good back vocals singer

@wilfredbalmores8440 5 лет назад

I didn't know I needed to watch papa roach again, sooo glad I did tho, one of the few good bands left from the early 2000s 🤟🙌

@Alzzeth 5 лет назад

13:29 the crutches though... loved it

@rhayvenlance 5 лет назад

i was about to comment this one haha how the fuck he can stand without those crutches lol

@lynetteharris2509 5 лет назад

Papa Roach is EPIC AF!!!! I've seen them in concert and I'll tell ya what AWESOME!!!!! 🖤🖤🤘🤘

@siekohorse 3 года назад

Lest us all not forget that Darryl Toni was the one who took me to the first concert I ever went to, which of course was you, and he was like, let me love and adore and listen to all his music because that is how much I care about my daughter, Melissa Toni. Shane, on the other hand, was like, let me deter you from Papa Roach and stuff any other kind of music I can find in your face and destroy your soulllllllll. lol xoxooxoxooxox