He is so kind, and so authentic, so traditional, yet not bound to a tradition; he is just present here and now. If you are ready, you’ll get it. If not, you must ponder again and again and come back. Go to him with an empty cup and you get 4 ounces. Go to Him with an empty ocean, and He makes it full.
The "I" is just another thought! But that which observes the "I" is not a thought and has no form!! It's the Source, the Awareness which observes everything and yet it's full of Life!! 🙏🆓❣️
Oh, very nice, the “l” is just another thought!!! But, some concentrate on the “l” because it is the very first thought that gives rise to all others. Nisargadatta concentrated on the “I” which lead to full bloom realization. And, that is a practice.
@@sevi4492 sorry, I did not finish. Nisargadatta’s guru instructed him pointedly, to focus only on the I AM. When a Guru gives you instructions, it is like a prescription from a doctor. You don’t change it. It would be gross arrogance to not follow implicitly the instructions of a Guru, if you prostrated before him in all humility. Everybody knows that the I AM is not the ONE watching. I am sure that Nisargadatta read the same books and heard the same spiritual cliches and jargon that we all bandy about. But, you can’t put the cart before the horse. When Nisargadatta followed that mundane I AM instruction to its final destination, it ripened fully into awareness. We all watch these videos and we all know the right answers and can talk the talk. However, most of us never submitted fully to the crucible to be melted by the heat of sadhana. Most would rather remain on the outside, confident in their ego that they hold the correct answers, but never tasting the fullness of the nectar. But, I realize that all the students of Ramana Maharishi that later blossomed, taught in with different methods and paths. Papaji is the most direct. And he prescribes no method. But, in all honesty, how many arrive with no method and no practice? Even all those in that room in the presence of the Guru, how many walked away completely satisfied? Sadhana is a time-honored tradition. Who really wants to follow its rigors if it can be given as easily as air and water? But, for most it is necessary. My guru admonished that enlightenment is easy. But, the steps taken to prepare for final enlightenment can be quite tedious for most.
Ahhh what an understanding Papaji is giving, looking for the souce of self "i" within can never be found. As the rivers source is in the mountains far from the ocean, so is the "I." Therefore, there is no "I" to find in enlightenment. If there is no "I" then there's no effort to find it! Relax.
i have been TRYING to separate 'me' from the noise, emotions, thoughts n disturbances but they are all in the 'i' thought='me' I only need to seperate from 'me'=all problems are in 'me' n are dreams it has i began in Christianity casting 'my' cares, which is duality, this was hard to see = let it blossom, let it grow! impossible not to think or have effort when 'you' think 'you' have problems Thank You Papaji!!!
There is no trying or problems for there is no TIME, no thought, all MIND is Past Knowledge. Know nothing, do nothing in TIME and thus only the body/mind works in TIME. Dissolve Time and Absolute IS beyond the beyond the beyond. Absolute IS beyond Life, beyond Time, beyond Mind. Nothing exists that is known. The thought that can't be rid of is by the one that thinks it is the body/name/form. That has never existed.
observation of thought. object and subject of observation. the observer is separated. then watch i thought. separate yourself from the observer. the river flows into the ocean.
The word "I" comes from the Ego. Seperate the Ego from your true self. Close your eyes and think to yourself, "This is me" When you hear "this is me" in your mind, the hearer is the observer (your true self), the speaker is the "I", the ego, who is to be observed!
Right now who you are, or think you are is really what your ego has identified itself to be. Mostly things and/or people. Thats why we sometimes "lose ourselves" when we lose those things and/or people. Find your true self!, stop letting the Ego identify you, and you will find peace Live only in the present moment
The ego is tied to the mind, the mind is tied to the ego and self. No mind no Self. Without the mind the Self is pure nothingness. You are your Self that are eternal and unbounded and also you are your mind that are inpermanent
Wow that's wonderful. If I may ask, after 25+ years , has there been a great transformation in you following his advice? and having had the pleasure to be with him? Does watching and contemplating the I really help ordinary people? Thanks in advance
The mind and breath raise from one source. When the mind is controlled, the breath will control. When breath will control, the mind will control because of both raises and merges in one source.🙏
Since the mind is externalized ,we can't experience the true being or eternal peace because mind wandering in the material world..attracted by object or subject......Hari om
Papaji described the Self like an object (it has no form, no name... like this) So “Self” looks like an observed thing, but what is the “observer”? What is beyond that “self”?
I AM is the observer of all things, which when focused on disappears leaving only ISness, with no identity, no beingness, no me, just IS. Nothing to see only BE, true seeing is BEing, not a visual. Ram Dass said it this way Be, Here, Now nothing is beyond The Self all IS Self, your I IS The Self being reflected in the mind n will lead you home something I Am just seeing=I like word meanings n levels we say new just like knew, but we say now different than know, if we say know like now, now is the sum total of knowledge
Self, like Being, Spirit, whatever name you give to it - It IS Energy, Divine INFINITY, Beyond Time. Time is mind mind is past finite like the body. The Self is permanent ever present Presence the Witness the Observer.
depends how subtle the seeing is. there is an observer which can be observed. the observer known as the separate self is observed by the greater all encompassing Self. But this will only make sense after more calm and steady abiding or maybe not but I hope it helps clarify.
They're different levels. K asks, "if you are fragmented which of the fragments is the observer?" If you are analysing or trying to solve a problem thinking you are separate from the problem then that's just the same problem. The observer IS the observed! The other level is basic meditation practice in which there is a sense of an awareness which is separate from the passing thoughts, feelings, physical sensations. None of these are "you" so you become more serene, less reactive, less identified. That's a good start! The "next step" is self inquiry, (What is the witness? Who am I?) Or pure devotion. The Zen modality answers this best of all, IMO. Something more like Seung Sahn would say "if you say the observer is the observed I hit you 30 times! If you say the observer is separate from the observed I hit you 30 times! Now what is this?"
What Krishnamurti means is that observer(I) is the observed(thoughts). What he means here is that the 'I' that acts like a observer is just like other thought objects meaning the observed.
@@smolderingtitan Don’t let the sneaky ego bind you back to a “concept” of observer and observed as one or observer or observed as two. The pointer is just be the observer THEN you will see for yourself! It’s like the teacher pointing his finger to the moon. Is the finger and moon the same? Is the finger and moon separated? No, the pointer is for you to actually LOOK at the moon. Don’t fall back into thoughts/concepts.
he says no one knows before coming there.thats not true.many have heard of headless-ness .many know of silencing the mind..even my mum met j krishnamurti n the 70"S that was his teaching and that we do not need guru"S (same as papaji)
Namaste. Yes, I think I get your point, I do know the work of Krishnamurti, the base is the same, both lead the initial 'inquiry' both say Guru search is not needed...find for yourself... But Papaji cuts faster to the end result, whereas Krishnamurti just 'points' the direction... For example, Papaji separates immediately the observer from the object, the I from the Self, the result is instantaneous... Krishnamurti starts the inquiry where 'the' 'observer and the object are the same'... he calls himself the 'speaker'... meanwhile Papaji cuts it through and you become ' ocean' immediately... I hope it helped