Paper Mario Fans Are Getting Ridiculous... 

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"Waaahhh But I don't like pistachio!!!" "Then why did you ask for it???" Basically that scene but put it into the context of TTYD

@@the_j_bug635perfect representation

@@the_j_bug635 I was tempted to put that as my original comment

We asked for a NEW game that was like the style of TTYD. Not a remake at half the frame rate.

I love that the Super Paper Mario message board joke remains relevant to this day

That would be an accurate title

Paper Mario and the Thousand Twitter Complains 😂😂😂

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Paper Mario: The Thousand Compllllaanntss XDDDDDD, Oh my god that would be a funny alternative title to it.

Same😡

Wow

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Like the time a couple people had an argument in a youtube comment section so big it could be turned into a Shakespeare play, because someone said their favourite paper mario song was from sticker star

@@aidyy10 oh my gosh, I remember that, it truly was something to behold.

Yeah. I remember when FFX/FFX-2 got a collection with remastered music. People were hating it! I love it but others despised it.

Demons Souls Remake moment

Ironically enough, I don’t think anyone did in Kirby’s Return to Dreamland Deluxe, buts that’s probably because they didn’t redo the music, they just made it sound “clearer”(? I think that’s the word) or maybe I’m an idiot lol

Did people complain with the SMRPG remake? I get that there are always annoying doomers who trash things before they even come out, but I thought that particular soundtrack was universally well received. The Mario&Luigi remakes definitely got mixed reviews on the soundtrack though. Not completely unjustified imo, but some tracks (especially Joke's End lmao) were a definitive improvement and we even got some brand new battle themes for enemies that previously used the generic one. We'll see when it comes out.

Like what is the point of playing a new version of the game if they want to turn it on the OG?

The same thing also happened with Mario 64 DS, the game was so different from the original that people complained about not being faithful to the original and that's why we don't have a remake, well cough cough 3D there Star cough cough And not only with Mario, but also with Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, people were crying out for a remake and when it was announced and came out, people hated it a lot since the game was just like the original and considering the worst remake of Pokémon (even though the game was good, it sold a lot and I enjoyed it a lot but we already know how conformist Pokémon fans are) I hope people don't complain again about a change in a remake Nintendo is giving a lot of importance to paper Mario a thousand years door

IDK how people don't understand that people are gonna complain regardless. Literally everyone has different tastes and expects different things. The people who'd complain about the remake being low effort aren't the same people who'd complain about the art direction and music. Plus, this sorta thing happens with every remake. This video is acting like it's exclusive to Paper Mario. People criticize things, so what?

​@@trunguss Because even if people get their way, they're gonna find reasons to "criticize" something when it would just be nothing and I mean NOTHING but nitpicking noise

@@kingrant6274 Most of the complaints I've seen regarding this remake are just the type of complaints you get with every remake. It's not exclusive to Paper Mario.

Either a sarcastic comment or some die hard modern pm fan who perhaps only got into the series from Sticker Star onward lol.

Sticker star murdered my whole family It should’ve been remade

I got in from paper star and despised stickers I wanted it to be more like Mario and Luigi combat.

​@@RedPheonix202 disposed? Did you mean dispised?

​@@Octav2000 Sorry for your loss dude. But prepare a new family. Sticker Stars need a remake

Right 😂 have no life much

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True LOL

It's because they're envious, they want to look as good as the game.

You know i liked Color splash and sticker star, i'd even keep the stickers or smth BUT it was just not the same.

Even when it had its moments, I prefer that the only thing kept from these games are the artstyle , some jokes and the music (well, the overworld of TOK was very good, actually) for now on. So I really want to see this game, which is in part what I mentioned to succeed.

@@SuperMario-to1et I respect your opinion! I agree, there were some positives that came out of the modern Paper Mario games, but as someone who just recently began replaying Sticker Star and Origami King, I would really like for Paper Mario to go back to it’s roots.

@@JoseViktor4099 I agree! I really hope this game does well and gets Nintendo’s attention. With how much they’ve been marketing this game, I’m sure they want for it to do well.

There's a side of me that argues this could have been a launch title for the next console, and it's a shame that they had to make a compromise and potentially alienate anyone on the outside that is interested but not yet involved in the Paper Mario series. They do not know the turmoil the community has been through lately, but they also shouldn't be held liable for a decision made on the dev side. At the same time, I understand that the devs wanted to ride out the last bit of the Mario wave since the movie, and I'd be lying if I said I'd be willing to hold out for longer than the 20 years that have already passed to finally get to play TTYD on console again.

same, cry about it toxic fans

They are far worst. At least every Sonic had a game they like. Paper Mario is TTYD or nothing

What is the problem with Sonic Fans?

​@@NL-Xlol huh

@@fq4580 If I had a list to post in this comment it would go off screen if it was catered towards the sonic fanbase.

nah ,paper mario fans get good games , half of sonic game from this century are as enjoyable as sticker star :,)

speciially gamecube fanboys and paper mario fanboys, it's like smash bros melee fanboys.

@@felipeemanuel5790 So if by some miracle, Melee was to be remastered, fans will STILL complain because it's not a new entry. How ungrateful could you people be?! We were spoiled with how much content Ultimate gave us. We don't deserve Sakurai! He can retire forever if he wished.

IKR?! all these years of complaining about how games since Super haven't been this or that and the one time they go back where we have the chance to finally tell them this is what we want, they whine about redone music, 30 FPS, line changes and other things that doesn't hurt the game at all.

@@jeremyknight9980 Well, I would kinda get the thing with line changes, but from what we've seen so far, they really aren't all too bad. But I get that they might fear that Nintendo has changed one of the more important ones aside from the ones we know of.

Me personally I am just happy I get a chance to replay a game that was one of my favorite during my childhood

How low could the framerate be before you get upset about it? 15fps?

​@@trapez77that would be bad luckily it isn't 30 is perfectly fine for this kind of game

@@professorpengu502 how low would still be acceptable? 29fps? 25?

@@trapez77 not sure never played a game that low before but again it's not that low its 30 which is perfectly fine for this game

@@trapez77If you're insinuating that developers/gamers would be willing to settle for less, then you can stop being obtuse. 30fps is the established industry standard for certain games, straight out of Sakurai's mouth. 29? Bro, stop it.

They censor the game if the game is Japanese localized then they SHOULD of put the dead toad in but nope they should of put cat talking but we can't have a beautiful woman defending herself no no no

Or some people just have different opinions.

@@Luxembourgish so you like when these woke fat black woman censored game like lolipop remaster or helldiver

I personally wont mind about people criticising the game, they are on right of doing so. What I personally care is the people who admited (and even encourage to do so) to going to pirate the game in order to "give a message". Little they know they arent gonna get the result they expected, and the only message devs are gonna get is going to be "We prefer TOK over TTYD, hence why had more copys sold"

​​@@Luxembourgish having a different opinion isn't an excuse to be a jerk

They've spent all their lives complaining, and despite them having no reason to complain, they double down.

It's pathetic how the Paper Mario community is listening to alt-right grifters over minor script changes than celebrating their favorite game coming to modern hardware. Absolutely shameful and embarrassing.

@@lordmolag45000 I know right? They waited years for TTYD to come back on the switch and this is how they act in return because of a few minor changes? How childish can these people be?

I've been a ttyd fan for years and I'm happily buying the remake. There are a lot of whiners and snobs, especially on the internet, but some people just want tomplay a classic game om a new console. Maybe its because I'm younger and my first game was sticker star, even though I hated it after a few hours.

Nah this is literally just the majorly autistic minority complaining imo

Well it should go back to the Thousand Year Door format. They’re right on that account.

The difference is TTYD remake is actually gonna be good (hopefully)

BDSP was complete garbage. Despite some flaws, this looks great overall.

Nah, Pokémon BDSP was a disappointment because base DP is also garbage and it didn’t add any Platinum content, not because of any of its own changes. TTYD already has a strong foundation.

@@Crafty_boy70sounds like someone never beat Cynthia

@@gavinwilson5895 Yeah, hopefully

No i agree with you i haven't played this game either and the frame rate thing is Rediculous i'm Very Excited For This Game and i could care Less if it runs slower just as long as it runs fine i'm good so i'm with you some of these peoples complaints are So Stupid, like the remastered ost, and the frame rates the Only complaint that i can honestly agree with is the no new content thing even as someone who hasn't played the original i Definitely think they need to add something new to it people Love When They Add New Content To Their Remakes Kirbies Return To Dreamland Dx Comes Up Instantly Same With Bowsers Inside Story and bowser jrs journey if they'res nothing new why bother remaking it if we wanted the same exact game with nothing new added you might as well just port the game not remake it imo.

I haven't played this game either. And, by the same token, I haven't played ANY of the Paper Mario games. And now that I'm playing the original Paper Mario for the N64 to prepare for TTYD, I keep asking myself... How the heck did sleep on this series?? And over the years, whenever a Nintendo Direct was shown, I always see people in the comments section talking about and wishing for the a remaster of TTYD and how it was the best game in the Paper Mario series and all that. And when the trailer for this game dropped last year in September, I've seen people scream excitedly at the top of their lungs. I've seen people cry out of happiness. And I got excited because, finally, the game that was so talked about and loved so much, I'll finally get to play it. And now, we are SO close to release time for TTYD...AND PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING??? Why, why, WHY??? We should he excited! We should be happy! And people are whining about the small things like lower frame rate, dialogue changes, etc. It makes me feel embarrassed as a Nintendo fan and just a gaming fan in general that these people are making complaints about something that they have been asking for (for years) and we're finally getting it.

@@CaseyNoK I agree with you I've been trying to get my hands on this game since i played the 64 version on the switch and couldn't get it on dolphin because they forced you into getting all these useless apps to complete certain steps to get dolphin and it's like no just let me get the app i just want to play ttyd and now i can with the remake so i'm excited. It's annoying to see all these useless complaints about frame rate, and the remade soundtrack the Only thing that i can see to complain about is the lack of new content like a boss rush or a true post game even if they don't add those new features i'm still not gonna complain i'm still going to enjoy it and stuff, i'll just wish they added something actually new to the game is all imo.

Believe it or not, the gamecube's frame rate was at 60 compared to 30 on the switch console. And while they did update the aesthetics and look of it to be more akin to the origami king look, everything else is pretty much the same but just re-released on the switch instead of the gamecube.

@@SuperFlashDriver Yea i know it makes sense to have less frame rates because of how much details they put into how the game looks it makes sense that they would drop some of the frame rates, and if it's still playable i really don't see what the big deal is imo.

You see, they are selective, they want vivian from the english version, but the goombas from either is fine to them, no changes whatsoever.....despite this being a remake, changes should be expected

imagine crying over censorship in fucking MARIO lol goonergate is completely unhinged. They have a fantasy about Japan being some sort of "anti-woke" utopia XD which is ironic along the lines of what you said about vivian. Japan has been FULL of LGBT characters for ages, and its censored in the WEST many times

Femboy Vivian would certainly be confusing for people who played the English or Italian versions. Yeah, I know which two languages mistranslated boy-Vivian.

It's not most of the fans, it's a tiny minority. The only reason you even hear about it is that Nintendo news are slow so any drama, no matter how petty and meaningless, is being given more attention than it deserves.

Correction: It's 1% of the fans, and they're very loud. Everyone else was in quiet anticipation for greatness (though some decided to fire back).

i mean the fps is legitimate complaint since the og was 60 im still buying it but thats the only thing that is not subjective.

Remember Bowser's Inside Story?

Me neither honestly

If we get more gamecube remakes for Switch, I really want Kirby Air Ride to return. That was an underrated gem.

People are still grappling with the fact that Paper Mario can actually be good again. When the status quo has been changed, even for the better, there will always be some group of people who will reject it.

these arent real fans

It's not ungrateful if your buying a product, stop fanboying so hard.

​@@soccerman9307yall are complaining about miniscule issues, its nitpicking at this point and its pathetic

@@soccerman9307 how is that fanboying? whether or not your buying the product people should stop complaining about miscellaneous things that have easy solutions and should just be happy that we got one of the best paper mario games on the nintendo switch

Wow this is the *second* comment I’ve seen on this video that referenced that scene.

@@joshbuoy8661 Because it's accurate

Or if it ran at 60 FPS docked but 30 in portable modes...that would mean a chunk of Switch owners get a gimped version, my cousin only has a Switch Lite, if he's getting it he gets a close enough experience to me.

I know right? If only Nintendo were capable of making a hand-held console that can run games at 60fps without over-heating or running out of battery too fast. If only ANY company could do this. Wait, hold on, Valve did.

@@Serilaene Switch 2 probably will be too, doubt it will be more powerful than the Steam Deck.

​@@Serilaene the difference here is that the switch runs on an almost decade old processor (the Tegra X1 was introduced way back in 2015), while the Steam Deck runs on a modern AMD Zen 2 cpu that was released in November of 2023. The switch is simply not powerful nor power-efficient enough to be able to handle 60 fps like a steam deck. The Steam deck is also more expensive, at $550+ versus the switch oled's $350. Nintendo wanted the console to be as affordable as possible so they cut a few corners (although their choice of cpu is certainly questionable)

@@mapl3mage yeah, Switch was outdated techwise at launch, but by choice, inline with Nintendo's GameBoy family.

Don't know about wrestling fans but NASCAR fans since I've been a fan complain a lot, back when I was a kid I thought it was just stupid old people griping for fun, but they've actually changed it so much I barely even like it anymore.

Nice. That’s a SpongeBob moment you don’t see referenced every day.

i mean i asked for the first paper mario since that one need it's more and you could of just did a upres of TTYD since that game still looks grrat.

Spoilt fans, who’s using the family brain cell at the moment?

gamecube fanboys overall, the worst nintendo fans by far.

Don’t get me wrong I’m super looking forward to playing thousand year door but the road getting here has been ROUGH and it’s more due to the fan base than the company honestly.

It’s TTYD fanboys that have been the biggest problem really.

@@flainfan Literally.

Let's face it, the Switch is not a powerful console on many, many means. It's main goal was to be a portable console, that you could also play on a TV screen. It would take way too much time optimising the new engine's code to run on 60 FPS on the switch without stuttering or draining the battery. An ARM-based system is nowhere near the level of a PowerPC (except the fact they both use RISC).

Are you seriously complaining about the color of a character's eyes?

It matches the Japanese version of TEC though. I think Nintendo is trying to limit the amount of overt regional differences

@@cesaralvarado9053 No, I’m proving my point. That’s just a small thing and it’s not ruining the game for me. I preferred his eye blue, but red is perfectly fine.

@@cesaralvarado9053 I'm sick of people acting like minor gripes are synonymous with absolutely HATING the game. Like, I highly doubt the commenter will actually let TEC's eye affect their overall opinion.,

@@trungussI am not saying this complaint is a huge deal, I was just asking why they would nickpick such a small thing in the first place.

So then we will just stop giving you trolls anything

Exactly, people on internet thinks that complaining about things make them more intelligent and independent.

Exactly, but these guys want to be ignorant

If anything, more people would complain if that was the case, and that makes sense right?

@@joshbuoy8661 knowing how nintendo prices things, i have a feeling everyone would complain, people already complain about the pricing of the remake, imagine if they just straight up port the game

Even Ocarina of Time on 3DS was slightly different in parts...some lines of dialog was changed just a little.

@@polycube868 Ocarina of time is extremely different but the changes improve the experience dramatically. These people are just stuck in the past and hate change

If anything makes you smart...smooth 30 FPS is better than janky targets 60 but rarely actually hits it and drops down to the 40's

Ok boomer. Yea you knew this was a joke comment the moment you saw the “Read more” thing didn’t you.

@@joshbuoy8661pfffff you got me😂

@@polycube868 hey when the twitch 2 comes that wont be the case

​@@polycube868 The original did lag in several places, but to say it rarely hit 60fps is a stretch

I’m sorry - Paper Mario fans have nothing on fans harassing people off the internet, let alone hospitalising someone over relationship pairings: they’re just petty.

​@@alphadroid_131 They are more like the Pokémon fandom

RWBY is far worse

People complain about this stuff with literally every remake, it's not exclusively Paper Mario.

@@trunguss is not just the remakes, is EVERYTHING. One would say they would be finally happy for having TTYD again, but not even that, they don't like anything

People complaining about the music is Wild. The music is amazing!

@@justeve_ssb i mean, it happens with every remake, so i expected it

People can complain, because differing opinions are legal.

@@Luxembourgish I never said they couldn't I said If those little things are the main reason you hate the game then that's just bring petty

@@RainbowBowserEdits I don't like this video. I feel like it paints people who complain about the art direction or music as "toxic fans". It doesn't explicitly say that, but that's how it feels. With the title calling people who complain "Ridiculous" and all. Why is it seen as bad for people to voice their opinion? Everyone in this comment section is like "Omg these people complaining are such babies. You got what you want and you still complain. Paper Mario fans are so toxic." People complain about everything. I'm sure a lot more people are grateful this exists at all. I feel like getting upset about people complaining is sorta hypocritical. I would think looking down on people for having a different opinion would also be toxic. It doesn't promote healthy discussion, it makes people afraid to voice their opinions in fear of being shunned. Also the complaints people have pointed out in this video are just generic complaints you see with literally every remake, it's not exclusive to Paper Mario.

@@trunguss did you even watch the video he isn't painting people as toxic fans and nor am I You can dislike the remake but if you're just gonna dislike it Only because of the music (,which you can change to the OG) or youre mad how the remake is 30fps now instead of 60fps and you wanna use that your excuse to just emulate ot try pirating the OG That's just petty and not even giving in it a chance Especially since we haven't even. Seen 30 mins of gameplay

@@RainbowBowserEdits I won't argue with any of your points 'cuz they make sense. I still feel the video paints people who are complaining in a bad light but that's just a matter of perspective and I doubt anyone else will feel the same way. Still, this complaining is not exclusive to Paper Mario. This happens with EVERY remake. No remake is going to satisfy everyone and there's always gonna be those vocal who complain. I don't really see the point in making a video about it as if it's unique to this series.

Because if censorship

@@therealjaystone2344 I know why, and it's not even censorship... -_-

I hope the Switch 2 has a scent dispenser and Sticker Star gets remade with brand new scratch and sniff stickers.

​​@@trungussNgl I would buy Sticker Star if it had that feature

That’s a GOOD thing this remake has no stickers. Idiots are complaining about THAT??

So we are complaining about actually getting a quality product now? If not feel free to correct me but thats how it sounds

@@johnmehlman5195 Quality is not the graphic itself it is also the performence.

@@jasonsmashultimate3184 who cares though?

@@johnmehlman5195 bro...me and if you don't have the same opinion that's fine.

@@jasonsmashultimate3184 alright then, atleast we could end this civily

There's been a video saying they won't

Mon facts already covered this, Nintendo UK is stating Vivian is a sister questioning where her allegiances lie...nothing about transgender...also a Spanish image leaked of her Bedlam saying they were the 3 shadow relation withheld because it sounded less threatening than sisters, so most likely no trans Vivian.

I also agree, shouldn't be in an E rated game, but from what I've seen they're erasing it, it was only in the Italian and original Spanish translations, wasn't even in the Japanese version...Bedlam only called Vivian a man out of jealousy to insult her.

@@polycube868 Oh, I hope that's right! Thanks for helping me feel better!

Thats a retarded reason not to be excited

I don't think many of these people know boss battles have a fixed cap on how many jumps you can make either, usually around 5 or 6

@@AkameGaKillfan777 Give or take yeah. Most other enemies, generally not bosses, the cap is pretty ridiculous: 10,000 bounces, but you'll never see that since power bounces become frame perfect around the 6th bounce or so. Best you'll likely see is 7 bounces before you miss the timing. You can get an extra bounce or two easily using Simplifier badges, but the cons outweigh the pros imo since guard commands don't get loosened much and you reduce your general SP gain.

I think the complaints are more "rougeport looks too clean" or "the floor looks way too shiny for a slum

Zess t was mad at you for cracking her contact lens, so she blocked west rougeport until you bought her a new one

They probably did it to keep Rougeport interesting, similar to what they did by keeping Toad Town's south side blocked off in the original Paper Mario. It's to help keep up interest and to have more powerful items locked away until later on and not stumble into harder areas by accident.

super paper mario is amazing! you really should try it sometime

@@chloeryanvtuber is it worth it to buy for a Wii in 2024 or wait for it's remake?

@@Leo-pd4fc hm... i dont think it will get a remake lol

@@chloeryanvtuber yes, maybe in next year

@@chloeryanvtuber I've subscribed your channel as a Nintendo fan too! :3