Biggest Controversy in EVERY Smash Bros Game! 

I kinda forgot Sakurai started with basically an apology with the Byleth reveal. The only thing I remembered was just how angry the internet was

Here’s a few others I can think of off the top of my head: -Smash 4 not having an Adventure Mode because they supposedly didn’t want cutscenes leaked (this may also explain World of Light’s lack of cutscenes too) -People not knowing if Ultimate would be a Smash 4 port (less development time than Brawl and Smash 4 doesn’t help) -Allegations of Kirby being severely nerfed in Melee because of creator bias (notice how the Meta Knight situation happened in the very next game) -Custom moves in Smash 4… like, everything about them -A near-complete lack of Pokémon spin-off content across the entire Smash series (seriously where the heck is my ukulele pichu alt) -Recurring debates on “the rat” (Pikachu) and if it should have been banned in Smash 64

Can't imagine making death threats over a video game. Some people need professional help.

2:02 Nintendo didn't know fans would react like this, only Sakurai did. It wasn't his decision to put Byleth in the game, it was Nintendo's, and he knew fans would not be happy.

I've said this on reddit, But I'll say it again here, at the end of the day, these characters are here to sell their games and it's not just for Fire Emblem. Most people wouldn't know these characters without smash in general, so it prones people to research them and get their games to know who they are. So it doesn't matter if this was done for the fans or not, money is money, business is business.

I love how just saying Steve could be this whole video

"Steve's meat getting cut loose"

16:11 The actual reason Brawl was delayed was due to huge amount of content in the game. Sonic had nothing to do with it. In fact the reason Sonic is the way he is Smash is because Sakurai based him on the classic genesis version. If you need more accurate info watch Source Gaming's series of why characters were chosen

blud called Dante an activision character💀

28:23 I’ll actually defend nintendo on this one. having a character who fights with her hair be the representative for a game called arms is a little backwards

I've noticed that with the DLC characters in Smash Ultimate for whatever reason some people were really overly sensitive when it came to anyone having any sort of negative opinion about them. I still remember how angry the fanbase was when Hero, Terry and Byleth were announced those three characters brought out the worse in the fanbase. If there's ever another Smash game (which I'm sure there will be) I really hope the community can learn to chill out and let people like what they like and dislike what they dislike without getting up in arms over other peoples opinions.

I doubt Dante was affected... considering he's a Capcom character😂

The possibility of an Overwatch character getting into Vol 2 if Blizzard didn't screw up back in late 2019 is pretty insane, in terms of how we could’ve been in an alternate timeline with Tracer regardless of your thoughts on Overwatch

"Anime sword fighter" when half of Nintendo's franchises are anime 😂

Dante isn't an Activision Blizzard property. Devil May Cry is owned by Capcom. was so confused when you mentioned him XD

Nintendo didn't take down Slippi, they took down a tournament that used it. They didn't take down Project+ either, just a tournament. Nintendo doesn't seem to mind fan games as long as it's not a remake or a Pokemon fan game, they're also pretty strict on tournaments with their games in general

I also love how Nintendo has to censor Samus, yet they gave Mythra jiggle physics.

You missed the EVO Scandal where Nintendo tried to shut down Melee at Evo after they raised money for cancer research to be added to the roster

The biggest controversy was ZS-Samus getting a smaller bust, which is another reason that every game should get a boob slider. Alright, thank you for coming to my tedtalk.

Death Threating poor Sakurai? These mfs need Jesus. I hate Byleth as much as the next guy, but bruh. That's just plain old evil.

9:59-10:39 NOSTALGICAAA!!!😭 Also congrats for the 100K!👏

Congratulations on 100k subs 😊

17:39 Lyn's age was changed in International versions of FE7, so they changed the Trophy to reflect that.

What about people in the Smash community who supposedly ate kids

Congrats For 100k Subs, You Deserve It Bro

There are a shocking amount of people who are still pressed about Byleth to this day. Like elite levels of copium

Thank you that you didn't include Byleth. Fans acted like spoiled little brats who cried because a new Fire Emblem character even though Byleth is one of the most unique FE characters in Smash

18:37 hey, there's PMEX REMIX! (Dev from the project, appreciate the nod!)

Yeah, no, the whole Smash World Tour isn't as simple as "It's all Alan's fault" that people want to make it be. But knowing the community, they don't want to hear the truth anyways. Nah, they just want a bunch of sleazed bags get away with getting the best of them, because they entertain them. But will send you an email, charging you money for re-streaming their stream of their tournaments.... With one of them finally being out of the running, and going out of "business" (if you can consider hosting a game tournament a business) not that long ago. You'd figure summer 2020, after *that* event happening, that people would come to realize all their problems isn't always big corpos, or people who make deals with big corpos. And that it's sometimes from the person right next to you, the one who is "on your side."

the only thing i remember about byleth was waking up early to see it being like eh going back to sleep and then the video from nintendo store they were more hyped for the mii costumes i am so glad i only play smash very very casually as the competitive scene always makes me cringe to see

It’s very rare to someone mention Smash Overload in Smash controversy

As a Super Smash Bros Player, I loved this video and editing style! Well Done Homie!

Brawl Meta Knight was a monster!! Lol my cousin randomly picked him up and was unstoppable for a long time 😭😭😭

What really was controversial in Brawl for me is how "rigged" the AI is, going only after the player, even in a FFA. It's even mentioned in SSBWiki (in Flaws in artifical intelligence) and it's hated by lots of people.

3:45 Yo, is that Goldy Bones from Yo-kai Watch????? ❤

Not sure if this was put yet but you can also play as Master Hand in Melee by a glitch that has the player's controller in port 3 hover over the option to put a new name and then simultaneously hit A and B together,if done right it goes to the stage select menu and I say port 3 because that's the only port you can control it in,not 1,2 or 4

Honestly I always gave Nintendo a pass for cutting the Disney Characters from Sora's stage. Negotiating with Square to use Sora and Kingdom Hearts characters was one thing, negotiating the mouse is a whole other beast.

Oh so thats what happened to smash overload because I remember seeing posts about those character trailers and then nothing else. Shocked that it didnt get shut down faster with the whole kickstarter

Imagine spending all that hard work to make a unique character that's fun to play as and has so many combos but end up getting told to kill yourself because it's a Fire Emblem character 💀💀💀

I like that you use The star fox zero wolf theme. That made me happy.

Can't wait for the next siiroth upload in 6 months

Happy 25th to the series!

15:24 I hated that bug where you would trip and fall randomly I'm so glad they took it out in Wii U And Ultimate 😕

29:46 bro had to pray to his anime waifu real quick LOL

Love the use of the Boss music from Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games DS at 10:01! It's one of the most underrated songs out there for sure.

Great Vid, I learned a lot, but you forgot to mention in brawl thanks to sonic being slow (ironically enough) with development, wolf, toon link and jigglypuff wouldnt even be in the game.

Frankly, I think Nintendo hates the Melee community for still existing. In their mind, why should they allow something like Slippy to exist when players can buy a Switch and a copy of Smash Ultimate?

The Smash World Tour was run (and cancelled) by VGBC due to ‘health and safety concerned’. Panda was the Panda World Cup and was the only of these two partnered with Nintendo. VGBC cancelled and alleged it was because of Panda sending Nintendo after them. The community turned on Dr Alan and Panda. Just a small correction there in that it’s two seperate tourney with circumstances about them.

11:54 Correction: Slippi, as a service, is still a thing and can still be played today. Nintendo shut down a _tournament_ planned to run Slippi on the grounds of the program needing the "use of illegally copied versions of the game in conjunction with a mod called 'Slippi' during their online event." Source: Owen S. Good, _"Smash Bros. tournament The Big House 10 canceled over netcode,"_ Polygon, Nov 19, 2020

Smash is the definition of “Love the game, Fuck the community.”

Hey Siroth, Here are some things I wish to point out concerning the Smash 64 section of your video: 1. To my knowledge, no one got scammed from Smash Overload. People just warned others to not donate to this mod. 2. The only stage that got banned as a result of Tacna 2014 is Hyrule Castle. 64 Kongo Jungle, 64 Peach's Castle and Saffron City were banned for different reasons. 3. Can you provide any proof that letters were sent to Nintendo due to rumored characters not being in Smash 64? If not, then this shouldn't have been put into the video.

I was honestly less upset that the fighter reveal was _Byleth_, and more that I _woke up at 4 AM_ to find out it was Byleth; my reaction was p much just "yeah that's neat and makes sense I guess but I'd have preferred three more hours of sleep" Like, yes, Byleth wasn't exactly the most conceptually exciting character reveal, but c'mon, man :/

Half of those assist trophies/ spirits could've been some great characters 😢

THE GOAT IS BACK BABY

I forgot the blizzard controversy

when byleth was anounced we actually were thinking we get Dante becouse Devil may cry creators were hyping nintendo direct at that date

I want to see a brawl meta knight only tournament

zelda getting nerfed to oblivion was my most hated smash moment

The fire emblem argument is stupid. Lucina and Chrom shouldn't really count as slots as they are just clones of Marth and Roy with some slight adjustments. Sakurai even said it himself, clones like Lucina, Chrom, Dark Samus were either gonna be playable or not, and if they were not, there would be NO replacement. We would either have the characters or they would be skins and they're would be no other fighters. Fire emblem realistically has 6 slots, which yes is a lot, but for the past few years fire emblem has been Nintendo's biggest growing franchise.

In reality the whole Panda cup thing was blown way out of proportion and by killing Panda the single chance of a more legimate, lucrative, smash competitive scene is now dead. Panda actually had commuication with Nintendo for many years, and they were just telling the truth as far as needing to sign up in order to be apart of it as well as meeting certain minimum things to be considerded for a Nintendo tournament license, like not comlete garbage securtiy etc... What completely blew it up is when VGA bootcamp couldn't get a license from Nintendo because their tournaments not even being able to meet the bare minimum required, planning future tournaments well before they'd be able to even be approved for a license and plenty of other mismangement and then crying foul. But whatever, Allen very well could have come off as hostile which is why he stopped being the commincator with TOs(but the internet was already starting hurling non-stop death threats at all of Panda at this point) but I would probably be hostile too considering it really was the only way to get any sort push forward for the Smash competitive scene that would benefit everyone since Nintendo will take charge of it adn never hold anything other than a random all stage/item 1st place is a switch/Nintendo product tourney. Dammit, was trying not to rant, oh well. There's plenty of real info on this now for anyone interested. This is why we can't have nice things.

Fire Emblem is probably my favourite Nintendo franchise. My only complaint with Byleth being added is that it was too predictable, and it might have been more interesting had they added a different character from Three Houses.

17:56 There was a big full length indie film for melee? I honestly had no idea. Then again I've always liked each new Smash Bros game better than the last.

SMASH REMIX MENTIONED LET'S GO

Hi, I have a weird question, can anybody tell me what's the music theme used behind Kazuya starting at 32:18

Did....Did you just call Dante an activision character? Blasphemy I say! But it's cool, we all make mistakes, great video regardless.

He's back 🎉

Nice video!

Congrats on 100K

i have never played this series but i do like watching videos on it

I love that there's people still crying for Chadleth in smash I love it, 4 years later and still making people get mad

I think it’s deeply pathetic to be upset over any character’s inclusion into Smash. You can always just… not play as them?? It’s such a waste of emotion to be upset that Sakurai and staff chose a character that they wanted to include in Smash.

The big 100k let’s go

Here’s a hot take from somebody whose actually cares enough to give fire emblem a chance: FE deserves every single slot they got, it’s just that the Smash devs don’t have the guts to put non-main characters into the game. Most of the main characters in FE fallow this sword fighter archetype, so much so that characters who don’t use a sword most of the time (like Robin or Celica) get one anyways. When you’re dealt a hand as bad as that, what can you expect? Honestly, Byleth was a MASSIVE step in the right direction when it comes to FE reps, taking a bigger focus on distance management and choosing the right weapon or the job (two major factors in FE combat)

A video concept that would be cool is one about controversies with newcomers in general. like when Americans got mad because they didn't know who Terry was

Well.. Even If Samus Is Censored She's Still Considered Suggestive 🤔

10:01 what song is playing here in background??

Kind of off topic but now nintendo is forcing GMOD to delete their nintendo related addons from steam.

I'm still mad Waluigi was never made into a playable character :/

Hope that you’ll do wanted characters for smash bros 6/smash bros ultimate deluxe port.

Has there been a fighting game with zero competitive controversy? The character bans feel ridiculous in concept.

Why does nintendo hate a game they don't even care about so much.

Bro, Dante would have been the most iconic 😞

I remember when smash was rated T for teen...

(Turn on subtitles) 11:17 The smash what?

i'm 30 minutes into this video and idk what slippy is and it keeps coming up

I never understood why people were so against Byleth joining Smash. Fire Emblem got its Western Hemisphere Debut through Melee. I'm curious what the Smash Community will be like in 2030. For some reason I expect huge controversy when Switch Online goes down & regardless of the next console's Smash fans will be upset.

I'm surprised you didn't mention Brawl's upload feature for photos/videos and the controversy there. EDIT: Contracts for DLC characters in Season 2 were likely done around the time the game launched, not before the release of the first character in the second fighter's pass.

wow, people were once mad that there *wasnt* Pit or a Fire Emblem character in the game?

Nintendo shuts these things down cuz they don’t want people playing their old games

26:47 Fun Fact It's Not Just Mai That's Not In Ultimate, Luong And Kula Diamond Are Not There Either 😅

Sonic and Snake not getting 2nd characters baffled me

Okay just saying that Samus with 2 blasters looks sick ngl

People went so over the top with things like byleth. I may have had certain characters I wanted but didn’t get but as long as the character is fun to play and has cool moves I don’t really care

they left some trophies in japan melee only. but they put the fire emblem bois in the game everywhere anyways

This is just like when Onin received death threats for winning smash con

Smash isn’t really my thing but you made me watch 36 minute video on this 👍

Communities are smashed.!.!

I know it's probably not the case, but imagine if the reason we got a 2nd Fighters Pass was because of Byleth being the last one in the first pass.

Splatoon slander is out of control

happy 100k