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Paragliding Scott-e Electric Thermic Beamer 

Area28 by Gunter Kiphard
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For questions more informations here: finsterwalder-charly.de/de/12-...
Sich wie ein Vogel fast geräuschlos in die Luft begeben, mit möglichst wenig Energieverbrauch am Himmel schweben, auf der Suche nach thermischen Aufwinden, im völligen Einklang mit der Natur. Diese Vision war der Ausgangspunkt bei der Entwicklung des Scott-e, der das E-Drive Antriebssystem von Flytec nutzt. Absolut vibrationsfreies, nahezu geräuschloses Starten und Fliegen ohne CO2-Ausstoß.
Starts im Flachland, am Stadtrand auf einer Wiese oder am Strand und am gleichen Ort wieder landen. Das Fliegen wird immer und fast überall möglich. Weder Bergbahn noch Schlepphilfe sind nötig, und dank des Rückflugschubs des elektrischen Antriebssystems gehören Außenlandungen und die Organisation der Rückfahrt der Vergangenheit an. Das spart Ihnen nicht nur Zeit und Geld, sondern auch viel Stress.
Nutzen Sie Thermikschläuche an beliebigen Orten, an die Sie bis jetzt nicht gelangen konnten. Sie erweitern damit die möglichen Flugräume um ein Vielfaches!
Der bürstenlose HPD 10 Motoren ist absolut wartungsfrei. Es gibt keine Motorenteile mehr, die einer mechanischen Abnützung unterliegen.
Kein Benzin- und Ölgestank beim Transport. Nach dem Fliegen gibt es keine heißen Motorteile mehr, an denen man sich ständig die Finger schmutzig macht oder verbrennt.
Das komplette Antriebssystem mit Propeller und Akkus lässt sich auf kleinstem Raum problemlos verstauen.
Die an jeder Steckdose aufladbaren Akkus sind für ca. 1.000 Ladezyklen konzipiert und damit sehr lange haltbar. Eine vollständige Aufladung (mittlerer Wert von 24 - 60 Ah) beträgt ca. 0,60 EUR und ist damit um ein Vielfaches billiger als die vergleichbare Benzinmenge für Verbrennungsmotoren! Almost noiselessly floating in the air like a bird, floating in the sky with as little energy as possible, in search of thermal ascent, in complete harmony with nature. This vision was the starting point for the development of the Scott-e, which uses Flytec's E-Drive propulsion system. Absolutely vibration-free, almost noiseless starting and flying without CO2 emissions.
Take off in the lowlands, on the outskirts on a meadow or on the beach and land again at the same place. Flying is always and almost everywhere possible. Neither mountain railway nor towage aid is needed, and thanks to the return flight of the electric propulsion system, landings and the organization of the return journey are a thing of the past. This not only saves you time and money, but also a lot of stress.
Use thermal hoses anywhere you have not been able to reach before. They extend the possible airspace many times over!
The brushless HPD 10 motors are absolutely maintenance-free. There are no engine parts that are subject to mechanical wear.
No petrol and oil odor during transport. After flying, there are no more hot engine parts where you constantly dirty your fingers or burns.
The complete drive system with propeller and batteries can be easily stored in the smallest space.
The rechargeable batteries can be recharged for about 1,000 charging cycles and therefore last a long time. A full charge (average value of 24 - 60 Ah) is about 0.60 EUR and is thus many times cheaper than the comparable amount of gasoline for internal combustion engines!

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@thedevilsadvocate886
@thedevilsadvocate886 4 года назад
Beautiful design. Can easily be transported on a motorcycle/bicycle or even backpacking. If I might suggest an upgrade... I would create a kill switch in the advent that the throttle gets stuck. The loss of power should activate a breaking system or at least a centrifugal clutch to stop the rotors. This can be used if the lines are about to get into the propeller or just of you need to crash-land and don't want the throttle accidentally pressed. Ps any plans on marketing the system - I would definitely consider buying this. 👌🏼💪🏼💙
@heritagedefender799
@heritagedefender799 3 года назад
Amazing! So compact. I want one.
@CW196606
@CW196606 10 лет назад
Excellent! clean and silent-the end for combustion engines in paragliding is close!
@Archer28M
@Archer28M 6 лет назад
Malo morgen.
@TheFreshPeddler
@TheFreshPeddler 2 года назад
The problems with batteries and elec motor are weight, capacity and fire. Whats actually more clean is debatable. Big batteries and the like are worse for waste and often to produce. Some people have been duped into thinking complexity and "progress" are always such. The problem with gas engine is noise. Silence is golden but electric is still more supplemental to get you to thermal. Gas isn't going anywhere tomorrow.
@FlyHighParamotors
@FlyHighParamotors 9 лет назад
This is a cool idea putting the electric motor in a paragliding harness I thought of this myself and happy to see it being done. By putting the electric motor in a paraglding harness you will have the best handling and weight shift capabilities for flying. Make a version that can fly for 1 to 2 hours and I will buy one for sure :) Electric is the future! Love It!
@johannesgoetzen
@johannesgoetzen 6 лет назад
Fly High Paramotors Battery packs nowadays are good for 10 minutes of 15 kW Power, 20 kg weight of motor+battery. That 'll take a few years to get the power of the fuel motors
@SkidzFPV
@SkidzFPV 3 года назад
My thought exactly but even if I can only get a 15 minute climb (which is what I’d expect) I could fly from my property and get flat land thermals right here from home.
@TrueHelpTV
@TrueHelpTV 2 года назад
OpenPPG has done it.
@bigsailboatproject
@bigsailboatproject 4 года назад
Jeezus! Look at the lift. Amazing guys!
@aprilarrowapril
@aprilarrowapril Год назад
Прошло 8 лет, но пока ни кто лучшей конструкции не предложил! Очень грамотное инженерное решение!
@shekhargaidhani1618
@shekhargaidhani1618 7 месяцев назад
It's amazing 👏
@PatrickOoy
@PatrickOoy 3 года назад
Good idea for paraglider pilots looking to reach the thermals above, with no hills or mountains to launch from. I like it! How long can it run full throttle???
@StefanScheurer
@StefanScheurer 10 лет назад
Großartig!
@area28
@area28 10 лет назад
Merci, Stefan.
@edilbertosantana8307
@edilbertosantana8307 4 года назад
Excellent. Danke Schön.
@mikebartoli4755
@mikebartoli4755 7 лет назад
Brilliant!
@bigsailboatproject
@bigsailboatproject 4 года назад
I really like this design, lighter, prop block from body is eliminated, looks like it's way more efficient. Once thermalling it's not in the way and probably is way better for weight shift
@lioneloconnor4785
@lioneloconnor4785 4 года назад
How's the micro Jet Engine development coming along?
@michaelkennedy2528
@michaelkennedy2528 7 лет назад
Standing really close to a prop that could start instantly if it were hit inadvertently.
@bryanworkman3902
@bryanworkman3902 4 года назад
What about FOD and the lines?
@michaelkennedy2528
@michaelkennedy2528 7 лет назад
Often wondered why they don't have counter rotating props to counter torque. These little helicopters utilize this technology to counter torque.
@johannesgoetzen
@johannesgoetzen 6 лет назад
Michael Kennedy that's not good for the aerodynamic, and what would be the advantage?
@davidjessee7701
@davidjessee7701 5 лет назад
Absolutely
@michaelfettes5479
@michaelfettes5479 3 года назад
Karlson vom Dach!
@monggi9186
@monggi9186 6 лет назад
Nice and compact motor though
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 5 лет назад
Fascinating concept... but if this was posted almost 5 years ago... and it doesn’t seem to have caught on much then I wonder why. The benefits on the description seem amazing, so where are the downsides? What are they not saying?
@bicanoo_magic3452
@bicanoo_magic3452 5 лет назад
It will Slice n dice you better than an electric mandolin!!
@PatrickOoy
@PatrickOoy 3 года назад
Its a rather unsafe design... But it does solve a lot of problem if you want to just get up there to catch thermals with little detrimental effects for thermalling X- country
@quoth_raven
@quoth_raven 3 года назад
the price ;)
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 2 года назад
Imo its too unsafe with having no cage... also a shaft that long unsupported will have serious bending and twisting forces on it that I can see might lead to shaft failures at the flange... also... what about if you fall on your behind on a failed launch? At very least that shaft is likely to snap/shatter (if it is carbon fibre?).. and if still spinning at that moment could break bones and/or slice you wide open... or even the possibility of a prop blade hit the back of your head, potentially fatally. Not enough known about the design, materials used and with not being fluent in German.. Just too many questionable factors in that design to make people want to risk it.
@humayunlaskar627
@humayunlaskar627 5 лет назад
No cage I love ❤️ it
@yoozerify
@yoozerify 5 лет назад
Spinning prop blades next to thin lines.. great!
@patriciomunoz2830
@patriciomunoz2830 5 лет назад
And his head an arms etc...
@Novadean1
@Novadean1 4 года назад
Absolut Killing great !
@bartdereu9267
@bartdereu9267 4 года назад
exactly what i thought . LOL
@anthonyrutten4018
@anthonyrutten4018 2 года назад
Awesome!!!!🤙🏼
@1234LMAO12345
@1234LMAO12345 8 лет назад
can someone explain why the blade looks like its moving slowly at 5:20? ..i know that obviously its not, but can somone offer an explanation? thanks
@area28
@area28 8 лет назад
+Asad I try: The phenomenon is only in the film (TV, cinema) and has to do with the frames per second at Videos. (usually 24 -60 frames per second). When for example a wheel rotates at a certain speed, shows the next frame, the spokes in a position which is back from the previous one piece, the wheel appears to rotate slowly backwards. In reality, you don't see the same spoke moving backwards, almost at the same spot the next spoke, pure coincidence. By the same effect wheels sometimes seem to stand still in the drive.
@1234LMAO12345
@1234LMAO12345 8 лет назад
Area28 by Gunter Kiphard thank you! knew it was something like that, it all makes sense now
@area28
@area28 8 лет назад
+Asad Thank you Asad, you are welcome.
@tawfekessa7599
@tawfekessa7599 5 лет назад
He is landing my dear,he isnt in need to use any energy it turns by the air through landing
@CGreciful
@CGreciful 5 лет назад
aliasing
@SkidzFPV
@SkidzFPV 3 года назад
This is what I want, still have the advantages of soaring like a regular paraglider with out the big cage being a air brake
@tank7474
@tank7474 2 года назад
How long can that fly?
@angelbankslopez577
@angelbankslopez577 2 года назад
Wow. That is compact.
@Authmion
@Authmion 7 лет назад
Its really too bad the flytec motor is no longer in production..... this would be awesome
@MindCrime550
@MindCrime550 7 лет назад
Sorry I'm an under-educated American...only speak english, can someone tell me if he said it has an provisions for energy recovery "regen"?
@williadYT
@williadYT 6 лет назад
There will be no regeneration with a folding prop. As soon as you throttle down to lose altitude the prop will fold.
@Gribbo9999
@Gribbo9999 6 лет назад
No possible with a folding prop. In any case using regen would tilt the canopy forward causing it to sink quite rapidly.
@quoth_raven
@quoth_raven 3 года назад
don´t see why you´d want regen in paragliding
@Ikaro23132
@Ikaro23132 10 лет назад
Super Beitrag mal wieder ! Solltest Du an Robert schicken !
@area28
@area28 10 лет назад
Ikaro, ganz herzlichen Dank. Du meinst Robert Kleinhans, richtig? Wenn ja, er hat den Film natürlich auch schon gesehen. Trotzdem Danke für Tipp. Diese Sony macht schon phantastische Aufnahmen und die Benutzung eines ext. Micros hat sich sehr gelohnt, ohne das hätte man kaum etwas verstanden (wegen Wind). Aber da ich ja eine kleine Neigung zum Perfektionismus habe, werde ich zukünftig versuchen, die Cam in der Belichtung manuel zu steuern, da die Automatik auf unterschiedliche Lichtverhältnisse empfindlich reagiert. Bei spontanen Aufnahmen mit unterschiedlichen Lichtverhältnissen aber nicht immer machbar.
@Wingman77tws
@Wingman77tws 7 лет назад
it is amazing a shaft that long does not get a horrible harmonic...
@Rick_Cavallaro
@Rick_Cavallaro 6 лет назад
At very low RPM a perturbation would cause it to go off-center and create an enormous vibration. But at higher RPM it's going to rotate about the center of gravity, so it will automatically avoid vibration as long as the prop is reasonably well balanced.
@PacificNorthwest360
@PacificNorthwest360 6 лет назад
That’s what she said
@Holidayideas4u
@Holidayideas4u 6 лет назад
Must admit I don’t get any horrible harmonics with my long shaft......".....
@MarkvanEs
@MarkvanEs 6 месяцев назад
@@Holidayideas4u😂
@Mushaz
@Mushaz 7 лет назад
How long is the flight time?
@Novadean1
@Novadean1 4 года назад
Good question ?
@stian222
@stian222 9 лет назад
I want one now! Where can I buy one new or used I don't care?
@area28
@area28 9 лет назад
Hi Stian, write to Robert Kleinhans from Charly robert@nova-wings.com Best regards - Gunter
@stian222
@stian222 9 лет назад
Thanks, I will. Cheers
@quoth_raven
@quoth_raven 6 лет назад
How much height can you gain on a full battery load?
@area28
@area28 6 лет назад
For questions more informations here: finsterwalder-charly.de/de/12-produkte/e-antrieb/76-scott-e.html
@TheFreshPeddler
@TheFreshPeddler 2 года назад
Just standing there he is so majestic, like half ninja turtle, half helicopter.
@stefansrasenservice
@stefansrasenservice 4 месяца назад
Sollte der Akku anfangen zu brennen ist es dann möglich den Akku z.b. auszuklinken? Oder ist der Akku fest verbaut so das der Pilot in der Luft verbrennt?
@area28
@area28 4 месяца назад
Denke, dass man den nicht ausklinken konnte.
@MrReinhold2
@MrReinhold2 5 лет назад
First time ever seen!
@Novadean1
@Novadean1 4 года назад
Yes Granpa Holy Moly ?
@edilbertosantana8307
@edilbertosantana8307 3 года назад
Excellent. How to Contact for info?adress,tel.? Danke..
@AdeilsonSemTerra
@AdeilsonSemTerra 6 лет назад
Nice .
@mansongirl.
@mansongirl. 7 лет назад
en que pais consigo ese motor??
@forschungsbuero
@forschungsbuero 6 лет назад
En Alemania. La empresa se llama "Finsterwalder & Charly". Google "Scott-E"
@paulstefanko1107
@paulstefanko1107 7 лет назад
Where can I get a system like that from or the items to make the system
@johannesgoetzen
@johannesgoetzen 6 лет назад
Paul Stefanko how much would you pay?
@akbarshoed
@akbarshoed 3 месяца назад
9 years ago!!
@MarelloMaTrix
@MarelloMaTrix 6 лет назад
Interessante, mas sem proteção das hélices se torna muito perigoso.
@ModellbautechnikSalzkammergut
@ModellbautechnikSalzkammergut 7 лет назад
cool, wie teuer ist das Gerät?
@Yourbosskid
@Yourbosskid 3 года назад
You’re gonna chop your arm off mate
@BaljeetSingh-tn3np
@BaljeetSingh-tn3np 6 лет назад
Nice
@jesjoking
@jesjoking 6 лет назад
Baljeet Singh a
@rumex1000
@rumex1000 9 лет назад
was kostet der motor ?
@gunterkiphard887
@gunterkiphard887 9 лет назад
Hallo, bitte an Robert Kleinhans Charly wegen aktuellen Preise wenden - danke.
@shanbanaan8095
@shanbanaan8095 6 лет назад
how mush does this cost ?
@area28
@area28 6 лет назад
For questions more informations here: finsterwalder-charly.de/de/12-produkte/e-antrieb/76-scott-e.html
@kberry3065
@kberry3065 5 лет назад
Why such a long prop shaft?
@aaizner847
@aaizner847 5 лет назад
I can think of a couple of reasons, the only legit one being - Better air flow.
@flajflaj
@flajflaj 8 лет назад
Where to buy?! :O.
@area28
@area28 8 лет назад
+Paragliding Podlasie (Fly-Video) In the description of the Vid you will find the Email of Robert Kleinhans from Charly Finsterwalder company. Best regards.
@humayunlaskar627
@humayunlaskar627 5 лет назад
Brother you have to put the prize I belive you can sell a lot
@carabopi
@carabopi 9 лет назад
some propeller protection please !!!! an accident is due to happen
@johannesgoetzen
@johannesgoetzen 6 лет назад
Cara Bopi that's too bad for aerodynamic
@mitchellmcaleer2969
@mitchellmcaleer2969 5 лет назад
just requires consistent and competent launch technique, if performance is an issue, if you don't care about either competent launch technique, or flight performance, attaching a cage and a fixed prop is probably off the shelf tech,
@edilbertosantana8307
@edilbertosantana8307 4 года назад
Was kostet der Motor ..
@JT-bz8es
@JT-bz8es 5 лет назад
60Ah at what voltage? Flight time? Cost? Battery Type? Max battery cycles? More english...
@TryThinkingAboutIt
@TryThinkingAboutIt 5 лет назад
How about learning German? I haven't met a German yet who doesn't speak English. The web reference provides a site that's written in both English and German. How lazy can you get?
@glaucowallacemaciel8241
@glaucowallacemaciel8241 4 года назад
@@TryThinkingAboutIt maybe the german doesnt want you to understand.....lol
@warrenkral6562
@warrenkral6562 6 лет назад
No sort of cage? That's a waiting accident.
@humayunlaskar627
@humayunlaskar627 5 лет назад
Warren Kral everything plastic I like it.cage is burden
@germanstorms2785
@germanstorms2785 3 года назад
He said that it gave bettter performamce
@PatrickOoy
@PatrickOoy 3 года назад
Yep, you get a line caught in the propeller and that's it, game over.
@muddabeate5530
@muddabeate5530 3 года назад
@@PatrickOoy if a line is loose enough to get in the prop you're fucked anyways.
@Surferant666
@Surferant666 6 лет назад
Why are you so confident that this does not require a cage to protect the user and lines from being struck by the open props???
@Adventure_Bum
@Adventure_Bum 5 лет назад
Distance looks like it protects arms. The prop is way back. Lines are at risk
@edilbertosantana8307
@edilbertosantana8307 4 года назад
E mail? Danke.
@rickjohnson5666
@rickjohnson5666 5 лет назад
So my bones have become Hollow now I Can Fly Like a Bird
@mahamadgardi7311
@mahamadgardi7311 4 года назад
@Allan9966
@Allan9966 2 года назад
Watching that with nothing between the prop and lines was scary.
@MegaMorini
@MegaMorini 10 лет назад
Az elektromos meghajtás által kifejlesztett Geiger / Eck által előállított Flytec, abszolút high-tech termék. Ez még a világ vezető saját kategóriájában 10 és 15 kW. A motor teljesítménye kb. 1 kW-ként 0,33 kg tömegű, ér el a teljesítménysűrűség amely tekinthető felülmúlhatatlan worldwide.The csúcsteljesítményt az elektromos HPD 10 hajtásrendszer nagyjából megfelel a 50-szeres teljesítményt egy közös e-bike motor! HPD 10/HPD 13,5 rendelkezik az energia átalakítás hatásfoka kb. 94%. Szintén elektromos motorok, ez egy abszolút felső jel (bizonyos e-bike motor rendelkezik egy energia átalakítás hatásfoka csak mintegy 84%, az értéke közös gázmotorok csupán 5%). HPD meghajtók által Flytec, valamint az összes összetevői kifejezetten könnyű, személyzettel ellátott repülőgépek így rendelkezik az összes szükséges jellemzőket az ilyen speciális alkalmazási területekre. finsterwalder-charly.de/en/scott-e.html
@stefanneuhauser3426
@stefanneuhauser3426 10 лет назад
warum taucht nirgendwo der Preis auf? Oder hab ich was übersehen? Was kostet das Teil?
@area28
@area28 10 лет назад
Fragen beantwortet Euch gerne robert@nova-wings.com
@jeyapaulsamathanam7057
@jeyapaulsamathanam7057 5 лет назад
No subtitles ? I would have liked to hear what they were saying. Very, very unusual !
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 8 лет назад
No Cage! Safe as !!!!!
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 8 лет назад
+izzzzzz6 + Sketchy welding at 7:15 :D
@stefangeisenhof6002
@stefangeisenhof6002 5 лет назад
ja ewig schade das da nix mehr vorwärts geht. Denke das hätte schon eine Chance verdient.
@hamid4wd
@hamid4wd 8 лет назад
ماه عسل
@gustavbohner7123
@gustavbohner7123 7 лет назад
Gibt's das auch in deutsch ?
@area28
@area28 7 лет назад
Ähm...was sprechen die denn da für eine Sprache?
@MegaMorini
@MegaMorini 10 лет назад
Wie lange dauert es fliegen?
@area28
@area28 10 лет назад
Hi, I will contact Robert and he will tell you/post it.
@MegaMorini
@MegaMorini 10 лет назад
Please do so in writing to the technical parameters of the description.Thank you,and Good wind. :)
@goullioudnicolas4113
@goullioudnicolas4113 7 лет назад
?
@monggi9186
@monggi9186 6 лет назад
Nice! A bit worrid with the prop having no cage. A sure disaster during turbulence of collapse
@montgolfiere
@montgolfiere 8 лет назад
КАРЛСОООН!!!!!
@aaizner847
@aaizner847 5 лет назад
kotorii jivet na youtube
@kingsbishop1479
@kingsbishop1479 4 года назад
Would it work without the strings you just hold the edges of the glider would you take off the same way
@bicanoo_magic3452
@bicanoo_magic3452 5 лет назад
Hey Klaus! The world also speaks English.. subs please! Looks Good!
@PiefacePete46
@PiefacePete46 6 лет назад
Interesting video. English title and German commentary... unfortunate.
@yomy8434
@yomy8434 6 лет назад
Wie viel minuten flug zeit....bitte...????????
@area28
@area28 6 лет назад
For questions more informations here: finsterwalder-charly.de/de/12-produkte/e-antrieb/76-scott-e.html
@dongguanfreerchobbyco.limi3655
For electric paramotor and paraglider , electric plane and mega drone, you can buy motors from our freerchobby. We have 15kw 12090, 25kw 120100, 35kw 15470 and 50kw 154120.
@user-jq2iv8jq3y
@user-jq2iv8jq3y 4 года назад
Charly Products
@yevhen5936
@yevhen5936 5 лет назад
It will be horrible death, if the battery catching on fire. Battery quick release required.
@jacobellis8135
@jacobellis8135 6 лет назад
4:50
@user-vb7zo7od3o
@user-vb7zo7od3o 5 лет назад
Карлсон)))
@pasischei6951
@pasischei6951 5 лет назад
Hauptsache der Beinstrecker ist montiert. Im Ausland das Erkennungsmerkmal Nummer 1 des deutschen Piloten.
@grego10r
@grego10r 6 лет назад
nofuckin way petro for ever i need to smell it
@paulkazjack
@paulkazjack 6 лет назад
That's all dangerous!
@BHARGAV_GAJJAR
@BHARGAV_GAJJAR 3 года назад
Beam me up
@ffw819
@ffw819 3 года назад
Und dann fängt die buchse am rücken an zu brennen xD
@airphoto68
@airphoto68 6 лет назад
Опасная игрушка.
@timtim8468
@timtim8468 5 лет назад
Dürfen, muss, Zulassung, Coach, DBs, tja, es gibt Leute die fliegen mit einem 2 Takt vom Schrott und genießen die Freiheit.
@chrismaines1285
@chrismaines1285 2 года назад
Looks very dangerous without a cage
@danield679
@danield679 4 года назад
Schullllllllltz!!
@humayunlaskar627
@humayunlaskar627 5 лет назад
Put prize so people will buy
@user-qm5vt1dh8p
@user-qm5vt1dh8p 6 лет назад
Нищета, голытьба
@instrumentenfreak
@instrumentenfreak 5 лет назад
Wisst ihr was doof ist? Ich hab lange Haare -.-
@Love.is.the.Key.
@Love.is.the.Key. 4 года назад
No, thanks..i prefer gasoline engine..
@chrismaines1285
@chrismaines1285 2 года назад
Can’t understand a fucking thing he said.
@brookecytyz
@brookecytyz 4 года назад
very poor engineering, increased distance from prop messes with stability and thrust dynamics
@Manonsilvermountain
@Manonsilvermountain 5 лет назад
Long precarious funny looking shaft, to ignore the need for cage. not good at all.
@ropeyarn
@ropeyarn 7 лет назад
I prefer scuba diving, there is less equipment to wear. :)
@taffrider
@taffrider 7 лет назад
Yes, true but it doesn't matter how fast you can run in flippers you still can't fly.... until you trip!
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