This guy must have been soooo scared. I can imagine its already a stressful job, then to realize that its one of, if not the, most famous people in the entire world ever... that must take it to an extreme. EDIT: Those saying everyone should be treated equal... well of course... but put yourself in this guys shoes! The job is already crazy as is, then he realizes he's sitting there with the most famous person in the world dead on the floor. I know I would probably be at least a bit freaked out.
The title of this video is wrong. This paramedic did not witness when MJ "flatlined". He was dead before he got there. He simply said he hooked him up to the EKG, and there was no heart rate.
John Smith I was going to say the exact same thing... I’ve personally done this to dozens of pt over the last few years... “when MJ flatlined...” was WELL before EMS was called... probably when Dr Murray was on the telephone phone with his gf
who says she expects it? She wants to exclude the paramedics were influenced by or their attention was drawn by who the patient was - to make it impossible for the defence to hint at the paramedics unprofessionality. It's in the defence's interest to paint the paramedics bad, not the prosecution's...
@@krestainwatsonjr. That's the same as asking why didn't the navy seals that raided Osama bin Laden house didn't perform CPR on him after shooting him.
To all of you pointing out that why is important that the paramedic identify he is treating Micheal Jackson...You obviously dont know how cross examination and trials work. When a case is being litigated...questions like that are always asked. Did you know you were treating Micheal Jackson? Its not that celebrities are treated differently but in court every detail of what happened is analysed thats why that question will be asked. If for instance the paramedic was called to an accident and it turned out the injured person was his child or relative...if the case is being litigated in court he will certainly be asked...did you know the person you were treating was your relative?
I'm a certified ACLS (advanced cardiac life support) provider. He wasn't 100% wrong when he said a flatline means no heartbeat but I will say you do not have to be in a flatline to have no heartbeat. There are other rythems that may or may not produce a heartbeat but are still considered cardiac arrest vfib and PEA. He didn't do a good job explaining that you can have organised electrical activity on the monitor and still no heartbeat. You can also have a heartbeat and no pulse. He probably should have explained better.
That was the first time I heard the term 'flatline' - the explanation was clear for me but I appreciate that you are a ACLS provider and also your input!
what im understanding here is that once these paramedics showed up, they saw the physical body of Michael Jackson and realized he wasn't going to make it. yet they still tried. in paramedic school they teach us about lividity.. pooling of the blood when the body is no longer able to be revived. for him to want to stop cpr must have meant that he knew michael was far too gone.
Lividity takes HOURS and hours to show up so he wouldn't be showing signs of that. I don't know their protocols or to what extent they can just look and decide not to resus a patient. I know here in Canada there's a list of things for which we can call a Code 5 and not even touch the person.....like if there are signs of rigor mortis....if there's lividity, if there's brain matter outside of the skull....stuff like that. Where it's obvious that the state of the body or the severity of the injuries are incompatible with life. But in this instance they did whatever they could to resus him.
She keeps emphasizing that it was Michael Jackson to the paramedic, as if in the case of a celebrity they garner more intensive care and concern then your average non celebrity patient. That paramedic more then likely is not an MJ fan and could care less. He is just doing his job.
I mean they always do that like I love Michael I'm sorry he had to die like that But we all should be treated the same like wtf We are all humans Michael was human he just had a lot of talent and fame like does that make him some robot? It doesn't matter if he's a celebrity or not
@@teneishasmith2906 yes but some humans are especial they don't feel envy or a racist xenofobic..and spread love. They are the ones l wish they . can life forever..and no whores in the world he was especial more than a lot nasty dirty humans should kill themselves..
well i wish they would’ve emphasized that it was Michael Jackson on the 911 call. maybe then he would still be alive. and i agree everyone is equal, he was an amazing human being
Wow, so many people don't understand what exactly is happening here. The prosecutor wants to know if the paramedic behaved professional, so that the defense cannot question the professionality of the paramedic. But she has to form her questions in a specific way, so that he can simply answer them. But the paramedic's professionality serves the state in this case - so why would the prosecutor "expect" unprofessional behavior from him? She wants to hear just the opposite!
I noticed that the defence used the lack of professionality when questioning another person. It worked well to get OJ off - Conrad Murray was not so lucky.
Well buddies they only think can do is to appreciate Kathy Jackson a beautiful human being that had Michael inside of her and his family my whole respect for the Jackson family..long life to the king..Janet u are beautiful sweetheart...
Dear Michael was long gone for hours before Murray even clocked on that he had left us. Stupid “doctor”, a son, brother, father, friend, and hero lost 💔💔💔
BAD mistake - an absent heart beat does NOT mean "a flat line"!!!! An absent heart beat, by palpation, can be due to ventricular fibrillation, and that is not a flat line on ECG. The term "flat line" is another way of saying cardiac standstill, or asystole - absence of activity
A reading of ventricular fibrillation is one of only TWO shockable heart arrhythmias. Meaning that the monitor would have shown VF and would have advised to shock. Asystole is the medical term for flatline. Despite what dramatic tv shows and movies portray you cannot shock a heart that is in asystole into beating normally. For people reading this who don't know....shocking isn't to "jump-start" the heart into a normal rhythm....shocking basically stops a heart that is quivering (ventricular fibrillation) or beating wayyyyyy too fast (ventricular tachycardia) in the hope that it will sort of stun the heart into beating normally again. Source- Paramedic student
She ask the meaning after stating to confirm for the jury... She may not have known before but by time the trial comes around she knows the meaning. She needs to understand to know what she's allowed to say or not.
That's right, that's why Dr. Murray's sentence was not higher, just for a few years because MJ was aware of the dose that was administered to him for years, since the medicines always say the Warnings on the reverse.
Michael jackson did do dangerous sh** with his propofol habit how ever it has been well determined Michael jackson could of been saved if oxygen was administered properly also if cpr was done correctly maybe if Murray never left jackson alone for 47 minutes and then be claims from 10;40 to well past 12pm he was attempting recitations before 911 was finally called. So first Murray did cpr for God knows how long on Michael's bed which is idiotic. Second, if he would have just called 911, maybe just maybe Michael jackson would still be alive. Heck, Michael may have been able to hide his drug habit if he just used an infusion pump rather than winging it through Murray You are correct that this was a cocktail from hell, but Murray aa a doctor, should of never taken Jackson's case much like most doctors did.
Problem is dr. Murray was to scared to call 911 because of the media and because he probably knew he was going to get in trouble for all the drugs he was giving him and this was the end resukt he should of called right away
it was said he didn’t call 911 immediately because he does not know the address which is ridiculous then went to the bathroom for “atleast 2 min”(it turns out he was talking to his gf for 15-25 minutes inside the bathroom) and then called for a security(michael’s) to call 911 but in my own opinion, before they get to call emergency no. Michael’s already stopped breathing
I fully blame Conrad Murray for Michaels death he delayed calling 911 because he knew his ass would get nailed for leaving Michaels side and giving him drugs he shouldn’t be. Conrad Murray left a dying man in need and by time medics got there they were flogging a dead man. If he had called immediately would of been a different story 😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Well, Mr. Paramedic, did you check all channels on the EKG monitor to make sure that they are all asystole? Also, Mr. Paramedic, when you say flat line, did you make sure that the rhythm was not a Fine Ventricular Fibrillation which could resemble asystole or flat line?
@@crazy4corbinbleuxyep. Only some rhythms are shockable, and asystole isn’t shockable because there’s nothing there to shock. Defibrillators shock the heart into sinus rhythm from things like V-tach. No cardiac activity whatsoever cannot be shocked; it serves no purpose.
Dumb to you... however this is how you have to prove your case ina court.... You have no idea how such dumb comments irritate those, who know at least a little about law...
Maybe had they reversed the propofol with narcan and continued cpr they could have saved him. Chest compressions keeps blood circulating breaths continue to provide the oxygen. He needed continuation of that process till he arrived at UCLA and could have the drug reversed. With his dancing his heart was underlying extremely strong. Pure drug affect. Should have kept going and reversed it.
I wonder if, had the paramedics been able to administer the Narcan intranasally, he would've been saved? Meaning they'd be using current-day protocol of sticking it up someone's nose to stop an overdose. That process had been cleared/approved by the FDA in 2015, so had this had happened then, or any time since, I'd imagine their procedure might've be a little different. How that would've affected the outcome of survival here I really do not know, but everything about it just makes me feel like their were other players in this situation. No sane doctor leaves a room for 40+ minutes without coming back in once in between to check on a patient. By the time they arrived, over 2 hours could've elapsed since he stopped breathing.
@@nlsnat8573 I suspect his goodwill money and color was a threat the medical professionals at st Jude’s whose money was not as vast as his. Conrad was the patsy and got off with two years. That’s if they even sent him to prison. Or didn’t let him out the back door all day long.
Narcan is for opiates. Propofol is not an opiate. The problem was the so called doctor put him on a drip, did not monitor and shut down his breathing. By the time hevrealized it was too late and all he did was try and clean the scene and not call 911.
just because hes a celebrity and died tragically or mysteriously or abruptly doesn't mean he was killed or inside job. he was taking meds that could kill him. the doc left the room for what who knows but if he didn't leave the room michael jackson would still be here
That means he was criminally negligent. No doctor will give propofol outside of a hospital, no doctor will give propofol without assistance, without proper equipment, no doctor is stupid enough to not call 911 immendiately, when found his patient not breathing and with probably cardiqc arrest. It wasn't like "oh dr Murray just left the room". It's the part of professional care that you cannot leave the patient when drugged with propofol til the minute the patient properly wakes up from it. That's the rule. A doctor has no other things to do, when watcing the patient, his job is to watch. Or get professional assitance, who will help him watching the patient. Then he can leave for a few minutes.
I dont get one thing propofol they said that killed Mj they use for people in need of surgury but if he died cuz of that and they did what they could do how do all the patience wake up after their surgury from propofol?
Propofol is used to knock you dead out during surgery. You don't even breathe. Which is why they place a tube down your throat. A machine breaths for you.
Honestly they gave it to my 7 yr old grandson that had cancer quite regularly for mmr's...because he fought the machines and always panicked..xanax didnt help him to be calm so they knocked him out
Weight, age and many other factors are calculated for the amount administered during surgery. It should only be used in the hospitals where there are other highly trained professionals to counteract the drug if something goes wrong.
