Parasite Eve's DEEPLY Unwell Evolution in Review 

KBash is the powerhouse of the RU-vid.

​@Gravity Queen the dude produces better content than most gaming tubers in my opinion. He's just built different.

Couldn't agree more

All the mitochondria (plural). Soon he will activate inside us all.

Did u learn a new word 😂 what a stupid place to use it 😮

truly one of mitochondria moment of all time

I remember some kid wrote into...I think it was EGM...that or Gamepro....that his biology teacher was offering free points on a test depending on the facts their students wrote down and this kid apparently wrote down a bunch of things from the game, amazing his teacher.

I was about to try to sell you 999 but it doesn't have the "thinks they're A" part. Foiled again!

Which is why the Memory thing shouldn’t have lasted for so long. Cause only at the End does Aya and her Actual Character come back, only to completely divorce herself from the Series by the end with a point Blank bullet to the Heart! What a fucking Betrayal!

@Meat Head They never made a sequel.

​@Meat Head It's a great sequel.

Imagine thinking a sequel would ruin an already finished product. Delusional. A sequel doesnt magically make the first game unenjoyable if you already enjoyed it. Grow up.

@@AgentSephiroth Calm down

I actually like PE2, great that they stopped at 2 and let the series rest.

Hi there. Please elaborate? I've not ever heard of this.

Seriously, 2010s Action Girl Humiliation was such an unnecessary fad "Get To Know this awesome female character you've loved for a decade! By finding out that she was actually a sniveling coward this whole time!"

@@Densoro I can only think of Lara Croft going through that as well, not sure I'd call it a fad.

I actually think I disagree. Other M, despite its narrative flaws, managed to maintain a tense atmosphere in a variable space, and used its gameplay to great effect in conveying the feelings of dread and isolation. I could easilly imagine someone not caring for the story, but staying for everything else. Or, to put another way; Other M is a fairly well-made game, whose biggest flaw is that it is overwritten, choosing to repeatedly exposit the lead's thoughts and feelings instead of just conveying it through the cinematography. If the game cut out 80% of Samus' dIalogue, most complaints would go away. 3rd Birthday actively tries to not be a PE game, and even insults tne player for wanting it to do so. It doesn't weaken its lead by over-dramaticising her like Other M did, but instead beat her with a lead pipe, and put the gun in your hand to deliver the killing blow. The sheer disrespect is what makes it all so agregious. Other M can be written off as a bad day and moved on from, albeit with the occasional mockery. There is no coming back with 3rd Birthday, the whome thing is rotted out from top to bottom, and that just hurts all the more.

@@GambeTama Other M was meant to "Break" Samus. Show her as a giant pussy who is subservient to her father figure as a good japanese broodmare should. Why else have her break down after seeing Ridley despite killing him every Tuesday? And not being allowed to use her own weapons despite being literally part of her body? Adam tells her when to breath shit and blink. It's ridiculous. It's like having Doomslayer suck a fucking pacifier while shitting his pants after looking at an Imp.

​@@GambeTamaWell, you'd be wrong.

That scene and twisted metal's clown car haunted kid me for a long, long time. I actually like PE1 tho.

Yes pretty much, I can't even figure out which is worse in that regard.

@@ShadowWolfRising The 3rd Birthday is WAY worse. Other M is bad, but 3rd Birthday literally destroys everything the previous games build up irreparably, only way you can continue Parasite Eve after that is straight up a hard reboot. Imagine if Other M actually forced the player to kill off Samus themselves, that's what The 3rd Birthday did

@@Nk3ATR damn, i liked it.

Both games had decent gameplay in terms of action, but in turn, excluded their roots of what they originally are in their respective genre.

​@@Nk3ATR third birthday is nothing but Aya clones. The director of third birthday made sure to state it wasn't parasite Eve 3, it was just the third game

But if one perseveres, holding to noble ambitions, they shall be graced by the incandescent radiance of a scarlet sun.

Yep, much like Michiru Yamane for Lament of Innocence, in isolating the compositions to instruments available in the 11th century mostly. Harry Gregson Williams had a neat interview to that end when working on Kingdom of Heaven.

Also the jank exp chart that soft-capped you at level 38 unless you ground your ass off xD

Yep, that “eventually” part was more fatalistic than late stage capitalism critique, but still interesting. Conspicuous consumption is still with us as a relic of the Cold War, yet in our ever shrinking modern world (globalism/globalization) people make this zombie concept persist through fandoms.

I didn’t even know they made a third game

Technically not Aya. It was clones

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 The real Aya walks past Eve in ending. Aya either body jumped like Eve or regened a new body through mitochondria control.

the spoiler is that isn't Aya its her clone Eve from the 2nd game who was a girly girl college student so it makes sense she wouldn't be a tough tomboy like Aya.

That final twist and ending in 3rd Birthday, is so insane, so bizarre, and so deeply troubling to me as a writer, that I really struggle to imagine a mentally sane person could come up with it. It may just be the worst plot twist I've seen in any video game.

her eng voice is Yvonne Stahovski who was also Miranda in Mass Effect 2

​@@ZerosGameInn Yeah, I know. Her Jap voice on the other hand is Maaya Sakamoto, which made me drop my jaw on the floor when I found out. No wonder, her performance as Aya felt more believable and less submissive-fetish fueled compared to Yvonne. I guess Square Enix gave her more freedom when it came to the choice of emotions for the character because they knew how famous and respectable seiyuu she is in the industry. Square Enix in general seems to give their Jap voice actors a lot more freedom compared to their English ones. I remember that Vanille's English VA in FFXIII was forced by the voice director to give her a really cutesy moe voice, while the Jap VA was allowed to voice the character in whatever way she liked.

@@ZerosGameInn So she is a hentai doujin protagnonist.

@@Samm815 no idea what that means

@@ZerosGameInn I don't believe you

It was also more in line with the original novel writing style. It made a weird horror novel where you have pages dedicated to medical writing on the subject of cellular division or surgery. After all, Sena was a pharmacologist before he became a writer.

It really bothers me that Nintendo wears this mask of being the family friendly nostalgic company of your childhood and in reality they're one of the most anti-consumer companies out there.

yeah, ive never truely "beaten" the game, i get too the last part and have no idea what im doing.

Third birthday still isn't parasite eve 3 so at least there's that

Consider the setting of the game Yakuza like a Dragon and it could totally work. That game even had a full on RPG style combat system.

SE would 100% screw it up.

And immediately demonstrates the problem of designing a waifu before a decent character, especially when you realize what creepy taste some developers have the moment they can work on a girl character.

Toriyama really needs someone to share his directorial and writing duties. Everytime they've let the man handle it solo we all suffer for it.

I know, that hurt so much 😢

I would pay money for a Parasite Eve by Hideo Kojima.

Well no, it's worse than that. Good ideas and 2 bucks will get you a cup of coffee, good ideas bad execution equals every bad piece of art ever. Parasite Eve 1 had good ideas, great music, great art direction, and great characterization. They HAD a direction and just kept going in different directions with every sequel. Hot take, but 2's story sucks because it's just a bunch of cliches overlapping each other and Aya is super out of character.

Believe it or not that is the right thing to do.

Lucky you.

The music for both Parasite Eve games were incredible.

Ok now that's just mean 😂😂😂

I feel like Kojima would naturally be the one to handle a series this bananas.

Yes? It probably would be better than it ever was.

"Aya is running around almost completely naked because she breathes through her skin. Also Mitochondria for some reason"

I’d take a reboot but no not from Kojima

If I had to choose between Kojima or Motomu Toriyama..........yeah, I'd take Kojima. Kojima might do some cracked out ideas with it, maybe creating a Squad/Army of Mitochondria Soldiers and base building.

AHHH 😫 My Heart man! Tenchu, it still stings at what they did to my Boy!

“The mitochondria is the powe-“

While I don’t so much think the 3rd Birthday is a good game (especially its completely unengaging narrative outside the twist), the idea that of the game not being true to its series’ nature is misleading. It’s funny, because Parasite Eve as a franchise has always had a sense of deception in its marketing. Like “mature sexual themes” as a key part of the ESRB rating. It’s front and center when you see the rating, causing the mind to come to inappropriate places, especially for the teenage mind. The people who see the sexualized imagery in the ads, are they wrong to think that will be the standard expectations? Instead of a disturbing plot about genetically modified sperm and impregnating unwilling victims like Melissa? And “could only come from the minds behind Final Fantasy VII”? That’s not only a dubious concept designed to drum up sales for a game about as close to VII as Vagrant Story is to FF Tactics, but it’s also lowest common denominator what with pretending that VII was revolutionary in any way beyond getting people to FINALLY notice the quality of Final Fantasy... The staff behind Parasite Eve were veterans, and claiming that VII was their crowning achievement is selling their talent short. As for II, so many odd design decisions (much as you mentioned) that aside from the bonus unlockables, it really does a lot derivatively overall, causing debatably the worst identity crisis in the franchise. Especially the ambient music; ugh. To me, the only question is which is duller? The environments or the music? That’s worthy of debate for sure. The 3rd Birthday is too a product of its time, and just meh in so many ways, that its plot isn’t worth defending, even from a mechanical point of view. I was more “huh” upon the ending’s revelation, and yet, like a lot of classic misdirection moments in the history of media, is it truly right to dismiss it as “bad” rather than “different”? The terms are used interchangeably often, and really shouldn’t be.

not with its license problem with the books author it wont.

I agree. The haters of PE2 need to stfu already

And conceptually, there's just so much you can do with 'real-time combat, but time stops when you make your attack.' Games like Fallout and Transistor use it to laughably noclip the action economy, but if it's tuned correctly, it can give you this feeling of vulnerability and self-awareness. Like imagine seeing polar bear teeth closing around your head, and pulling the trigger _just in time._

probably Wont happen due to a dispute between the books author and square

this.. and also Ayas original model should have been left alone ..her long hair design was always the best.

@@scuff4094 True, I also enjoyed they somewhat fleshed out side characters if you went back to talk to them from time to time. Like Torres refused to fire guns because of a gun accident with his "now" deceased daughter, Baker and his K9 partner Sheva who protected Daniels kid Ben. When eve hit the police station until she (Sheva) finally succumbed to the parasite cells, and Baker having to shoot his long time partner. The other games almost barely gave a reason to care about anyone in the game but Aya. Not to mention least in PE2 you didn't see any forboding enemies. Example - Going to the 9th floor to the sperm sample at the hospital in PE, if your in the dark hallway, run towards the camera, and it switches to show a window. Running up to the window it cuts to outside the window showing a building having an isolated thunderstorm, with lightning constantly striking the roof. Seeing that you get a sense that something else is going on in the background while your chasing down eve. Had PE stayed with the original story and combat system i feel we would have seen a lot better games from the series, and much better received.

Well, there's Vagrant Story.

@@Biouke I might check that out then and thanks!

More recently, Resonance of Fate/End of Eternity (US/PAL respectively) doesn't use the wire frames, but it _is_ a sort of 'time-stop turn-based shooter RPG' that expands on the encounter design and gun customization, but skimps on environmental design. It also makes plot armor an actual game mechanic lmao So you can either fly through the air shooting double uzis like the Matrix, or hide behind cover and take potshots.

@@Densoro I'll check that one out too, thanks for bringing it up!

@@Densoro Oh I forgot this one, excellent game ! :D

Nothing weird about it, PE2 trumps the first game on many levels. It's people that don't get it that are weird.

...it's based on a sci-fi book which is pretty damn good. So no. What's with these brain dead takes?

@@jplayer073 wow, such hostility from fellow fans. Is it brain dead to make poke fun at things you love or attack someone for making fun of it?

One thing I would love is a remake , Parasite Eve but with FF7 Remake combat , it would be so good. The other games are meh , I liked the 3rd game but it got boring , confusing and just plainly bulletspongy , I've been stuck in the same stage for 3 hours and after I beat it i just got stuck again.