Lets take a look at the new Parkside Performance 40V PPKSA 40-LI A1 chainsaw and compare it to it's green brother Parkside PKSA 40-LI A1. Are they the same?
There COULD be difference in performance, if they program the controller differently. Maybe the short burts in RPM in performance model would translate to slightly faster cutting time. That being said, depending on price, green one will likely be more cost effective. I was hoping they bring back oregon chain at least for performance.
However, it would be good to compare both in practical use. Perhaps the motor control works differently - not only the rotational speed is important, but also the torque.
Well, you can't get different torque using the same motor. Or you think Parkside intentionally downgraded the green version torque, having in plan to release a Performance version and then to unlock the full motor specs - fantasy.
@@icku ofc you can…. You can allow higher currents especially when you can detect that you are using a 8AH battery. Test them side by side cutting something You might get a surprise
@@icku While I agree that it's unlikely, it is true that a different controller can alter the motor performance. For instance, allowing more amps to flow to the motor under heavy load if the connected battery is a 8ah model.
@@MiguelCamba "AllHandmade 3 hours ago Same motor with same maximum current of 16A. Whatever programming you do you won't make it withstand 18A for example. The machine can be only worse, not any better."
Since a Maikta battery chainsaw died on me the other day after 2.5 years of ownership, I would attest: this IS a significant difference. But depends on piece difference of course.
I saw in some YT video that the handle in the performance version is thicker as in the green one. The person using it stated that the thin green version is better due to this fact. It is easier to grab and handle. I guess this depends how big hands one has, but for people with tiny little hands like me :D, it might make a difference.
Damn. Was expecting a bit more from them, at least a different stronger motor . Let's see if it's not much more expensive than regular version. Regards
Just saw on german lidl site the price. 120 euros. In the site is cheaper than old version currently at 129. But old version on my physical Portuguese shop is at 99 euro
do you know by any chance whats the difference between cordless performance chainsaw PPKSA 40-Li A1 and PPKSA 40-Li B2 ? there is no info about which one is better, thank you!
3:17 I just got my hands on a second hand green model. Is it common to leak oil when stored upright? I have oil coming out from the seam below. Anybody? I have the corded version for over a year and that doesnt leak at all.
I use Oregon bars and Stihl or Husqvarna chains around the house, garden and our small patch of forest. Oregon bars are basicly what everyone sells here in Hungary if you go to a shop specialising in this stuff and they do their job well and are affordable. Oregon chains are fine if you don't use it for large amounts of firewood but I recently gave in and upgraded to a Husqvarna chain and it cuts mutch better and dulls mutch slower than an Oregon chain. It makes a big difference in how fast you get trough your wood pile. If you bring the bar and the chain to a shop they should be able to give you one with the same tooth size and count that is currently on the saw.
Obroty to może nie, akurat zielony tak robi że dozuje moc. Wyraźnie stopniuje ją na dużych kawałkach drzewa co słychać po przecięciu że zwalnia. Na oko już 20 sosenek tym pokroiłem i przyznam że jest to dużo lepszy sprzęt niż się nastawiałem przed zakupem.
Merci pour ce comparatif Cela me rassure car j’ai acheté le modèle vert il y a seulement deux semaines. Le système « connecté » ne peut apporter que des pannes supplémentaires 😊
C'est sure que les systèmes connectés ne sert à rien ou si peux par rapport à la complexité que cela ajoute. Pour le reste, j'espère quand même qu'il y a une vraie différence entre ces deux modèles. Même si ça se voit pas dans ce test.
This test doesn't make sense, recently you compared grinders Pwsap 20-li d4 vs E5 , all the same inside and D4 was better, so in this case performance could be even weaker.
You are some point right. But the grinders were/are from two different manufacturers - Grizzly and Kompernass. The two chainsaws are from the same manufacturer - Grizzly. Maybe I said it wrong - let me paraphraze - the Performance model can't be any better than the green one. The hussle was about the new model beind better - well its not. Its the same or eventually it could turn out being worse :)
I've learned two things about these tools. One the hard way, the second I was lucky. 1 - Most parkside X20v tools are 💩, you'll be caught with your pants down when you least expect. Yes, Lidl will give you a new one, but you couldn't finish what you were doing and had to wait weeks to get the new one, imagine if doing something for a customer? 2 - Electric chainsaws, battery powered ones, or grass trimmers, or anything similar, are just hopeless tools. Any cheap petrol powered equivalent will allow you to work much, much faster, most likely won't break as easily, and in the case of chainsaws, the power to cut harder or/and thicker logs... it's not even comparable. I was to buy that green chainsaw you have, I'm so happy I got a petrol powered one instead. Question, if it's not being sold yet, how did you get your hands on one?
Yeah, I agree with you. And one more reason I don't like battery operated tools, just as I don't like Tesla - i wanna hear that petrol engine sound haha. But like I always say - you get what you paid for. Well I have connections at the right places ;)
@@icku I hate 2 stroke engine's noise and smell. But facts don't care about my preferences... I do have a drill from the X20v family that I can't really complain. Apart from a trigger that disintegrates the rubber bit, it's really fantastic. A saw, the disk grinder, the hammer drill... f me. What complete pieces of 💩 I spent my money on. The trimmer... It's ok for someone with a small garden who wants to spend the time outside instead of putting up with the wife. For me, in a farm... I've returned one, and not the second because I haven't used it.
Just dont buy parkside chinese junk that has 0 quality control and every tool is a lottery and you will be fine with battery powered tools. I got einhells 36V dual battery chainsaw and i would never go back to petrol .For what i need it is perfect ,no gas smell,no ear tearing noise ,and price was same as sthil's hobby ms 170 chainsaw.No bad carburator that wont start because membrane got fcked from bad fuel or bad oil.And best part is its dirt cheap to cut wood with compared to rising prices of oil for mixture.Extra plus is i get to take a brake for 45min when i recharge battery's. I cut oak 30 cm thick with it and it never stopped.j
@@zumbazumba1 I get what you say, and definitely don't disagree, but facts are facts, a petrol chainsaw will work nonstop all day, a battery powered one will not. And will allow you to get the job done faster. Of course, if it's suits your needs, you have no reason to use a petrol one.
After some play with the tool - indeed it delivers more speed, but after selecting Expert mode. In normal Performance mode its not possible. Sorry for misleading 🙄
Your conclusion have just disappointed me very much. Because everyone in the tool industry knows that a brushless motor requires and also allows more control. And it is normal for a brushless tool to first ramp up speed and then go slower when no-load is detected. And in today's technology, controls are way more important than hardware. Even if other internal parts were the same, found in the green model, the use of these internals could paint a way different picture. Bad review because of arguments not to continue with practical test. I thought you were better. A dislike earned.
Don't put your disappointment from Parkside on me. We all were expecting something different - well its not. No, its not normal to have such initial spikes in RPMs. I have dissected far more brushless motors than you, from far more reputable manufacturers than Parkside. Milwaukee, Makita, Bosch don't have such spikes in RPMs. And what are you going to say about this new model of Parkside: www.lidl.de/p/parkside-performance-20-v-akku-drehschlagschrauber-1-2-passp-20-li-a3-ohne-akku-und-ladegeraet/p100357982 Did you see any difference in performance from its predecessor? No, you didn't! Why - because its the same as the A2 version except for the Ready2Connect functionality.
Ok, ok. Let me ask you. When you're out in the woods, trimming branches, taking down trees, chopping logs... Are you concerned about the statistics that useless Bluetooth gives you, or are you concerned about not getting hurt and getting the work done before the sunset? Is it that relevant how many rpms the motor had, or for how long was the tool on or any other completely irrelevant information that function gives you?
You didn't get it right. The function is handy when you resell the tool. As the new buyer can see how much it was used and/or was it tortured too much. You cannot delete that statistics, at least not easily.
@@icku Sell it? Yes, I'm trying to sell a saw, but it's new, a replacement under warranty. Anyone serious about their work, I doubt the tool, any parkside, will be in conditions to be sold second hand. And for the cost of a new item, just buy new. Or better yet, buy DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee. Buy once, cry once. Even Einhell is a better investment. I don't see the value in these black series at all. After the warranty period ends, that's it, there's no service for those tools. I have a 15 year old DeWalt that I can service today. Anything parkside, I'll just throw away because there's no parts available. I've worked in many professional environments and no one ever questioned if a grinder or a hammer drill had been "tortured", of course it was, that's the reason why the tool is there, and everyone knows that. Hence Hilti being so popular despite being incredibly expensive. This Bluetooth shite is only to attract weekend warriors who think they can do it. You know, the ones who can't format their computers when it crashes.
@@icku Everything is possible when you lie -old china proverb. What kind of screw are you going to tighten that much ?And how thick impact socket has to be to withstand that force?
until you make the comparison cutting wood, you won't see the difference, because the performance version can have a different programming and withstand more or less rotation in the cut
Same motor with same maximum current of 16A. Whatever programming you do you won't make it withstand 18A for example. The machine can be only worse, not any better.
