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@tehawfulestface1337
@tehawfulestface1337 20 дней назад
Working as a military history illustrator, Cornelius Ryan’s books The Longest Day and A Bridge Too Far were part of my teenage years. Newspaper articles of the making of this film was exciting for a modeller like me. Before CGI, the makers of this film searched far and wide for the actual vehicles and planes to make this film. I was close to salivating as I saw the vehicles and planes in action in the film. I could name them all. And I could tell the anachronistic ones used to ‘stand in’ for those they could not find. I remember cringing every time I saw museum pieces being blown up! I read an interview of German actor Hardy Kruger being very uncomfortable wearing the black uniform of an SS officer, especially in between takes with the way the older Dutch actors looked at him.
@DocLunarwind
@DocLunarwind 20 дней назад
I prefer the longest day, but there are so many classics
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 18 дней назад
You're right, it is immersive, a very underrated and lazily dismissed film which has since been rightly reappraised as a classic film, beautifully made.
@MisterFastbucks
@MisterFastbucks 18 дней назад
No CGI. All practical effects. The extraordinary shots of those C-47s towing the gliders will never be seen again in cinema. Just magnificent!
@simoncurry5336
@simoncurry5336 20 дней назад
General Maxwell Taylor was played by Canadian actor Paul Maxwell who was the voice of Captain Grey in "Captain Scarlett and the Mysterons" and he made several appearances in "UFO". You'll hear his voice in other Gerry Anderson series when you react to them. I won't be more specific because you don't want spoliers.
@somthingbrutal
@somthingbrutal 20 дней назад
i used to know one of the British Para's who fought in Arnhem, he taught my parents Ballroom Dancing.
@markpekrul4393
@markpekrul4393 19 дней назад
This is a great film. Dirk Bogarde's clattering teacup is a perfect cinematic moment.
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 19 дней назад
Classic Jeeps are indeed fun to drive but I can tell you from experience, the danger of roll-over while cornering at speed was a valid concern.
@beannathrach2417
@beannathrach2417 20 дней назад
The nervous intelligence officer Major Fuller was in real life named Urquhart, renamed to avoid confusing with Gen Urquhart. He played important role in starting the United Nations and its peacekeeping role. He was a good man. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Urquhart As the planes taxi and takeoff, a light jaunty tune plays. That tune returns through the movie and becomes grimmer.
@JGRMSTR-ts6je
@JGRMSTR-ts6je 19 дней назад
I love how films of that era, like The Longest Day, Tora, Tora, Tora, La Grande Vadrouille and this one used real native speakers.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 20 дней назад
Quite an inaccurate movie in many places so don't take it as historically truthful. For a start, the film totally omitted the American commander of First Allied Airborne Army, General Lewis Brereton. It was Brereton who made the fatal decision to not fly double missions on day one and to split the drops over three days. It was this that killed the operation. The film also ignored that after reports of stronger German forces in the area, the original plan called Operation Comet which only involved the British and Polish was enlarged and expanded into Operation Market Garden with the addition of the two American airborne divisions, which more than doubled the paratroop numbers.
@michaelnolan6951
@michaelnolan6951 20 дней назад
Fantastic cast, fantastic movie. I have always loved this because of my family history (my Irish born grandfather was in 1st Airborne Division during this operation, and parachuted into Arnhem. He was one of the few who was able to eventually retreat over the Rhine and link up with Polish paratroopers. He later volunteered to join 6th Airborne Division and helped liberate Bergen-Belsen concentration camp where Ann Frank had been murdered. He was later transferred to the Far East and finished the war preparing to invade Japan. My English born Dad was also a paratrooper in his youth and served in 1 Para from the late 60s to mid 70s. The only famous action he was involved with was "Bloody Sunday" and he was always furious at the way that was portrayed on TV. As he always said, if any Para had been "out of control" and firing at random into a crowd of civilians, why didn't they kill 20 in the first 10 seconds with their first magazine? These guys were Britain's crack regular light infantry troops, armed with semi auto SLR rifles, engaging a crowd with no cover at point blank range. The Las Vegas shooter a few years ago shot hundreds of concert goers on his own! Ahem. Sorry for the irrelevant rant. "A Bridge too Far", yay! This movie makes a point of not showing Montgomery, and in hindsight it seems clear that he was not nearly as involved as he should have been in planning the op. it seems like he was infected with post D-Day overconfidence and just expected victory to naturally fall into his lap. Interestingly Montgomery was loved by my Great Uncles who served in the NZ army 2nd Division (the unit that saw the most continuous combat of the war.) They fought in Greece, Crete, North Africa for years, invaded Italy and helped capture Rome before taking the lead in the storming of Monte Cassino. They then invaded Austria. They much preferred being under Montgomery's command to being under US General Mark Clark's (Who they nicknamed Mark-Time Clark) Granted, their impressions were those of low ranked soldiers who may not have had much insight into the reality of a commander's actions, but they were also the same experienced combat troops who broke the German lines at El Alamein and felt inspired by Montgomery.
@alexachipman
@alexachipman 20 дней назад
Thank you for sharing!
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 20 дней назад
Montgomery had no jurisdiction over First Allied Airborne Army, USAAF and RAF so there was nothing he could do about the air part of Market Garden. He made certain suggestions, such as double missions flown on day one, but these were rejected by the air commanders and there was nothing he could do about it. Eisenhower as Supreme Commander should have taken a more active role as he had full jurisdiction over everything, and should have argued against the caution of the air generals but he did not. He stayed in his chateau near Cherbourg some 600km away from the front.
@simoncurry5336
@simoncurry5336 19 дней назад
Maxwell Taylor (who commanded the 101st Airborne Division in Operation Market Garden) went on to be Chief of Staff of the Army (1955-59), Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1962-64) and US Ambassador to South Vietnam (1964-65).
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 19 дней назад
He also (iirc from what I've read) somehow visited Rome earlier on to touch base with the Italian leaders who had deposed Mussolini regarding an Italian surrender to the Allies.
@simoncurry5336
@simoncurry5336 19 дней назад
@@chrisgibbings9499 For what it's worth, I read that too. He was still alive when "A Bridge Too Far" was made. I wonder if it amused him that the surname of the actor who played him (Paul Maxwell) was the same as his given name.
@nathanmeece9794
@nathanmeece9794 19 дней назад
This is the only movie me and my father watched together at the theater
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 19 дней назад
Your query re the artillery fire at 13:54; it's what was known as a creeping barrage to give the advancing troops as much cover as possible by having the artillery blaze away towards the enemy lines and increasing their range as the troops and tanks advance. It had been a First World War tactic - and Dr Who director David Maloney had a thing about it, having our heroes caught in the middle of creeping barrages in the first episodes of The War Games and Genesis of the Daleks several years later!
@craigmorris4083
@craigmorris4083 19 дней назад
This movie is incredibly kind to Gen. Gavin and his 82nd Airborne. They overlook his shortcomings in this campaign.
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 18 дней назад
You can point to a whole load of things the film overlooked but it is, after all, a film rather than a documentary and limited to three hours!
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 18 дней назад
Even kinder to Brereton and Williams, who get away scott free because they aren't even mentioned, yet it was their decision to not fly double missions on day one and to spread the drops over three days which was the biggest mistake made by the allies in the operation. The Germans also concluded that in a post battle appraisal. Instead, Montgomery off screen and Browning on screen are chosen as the 'villains'.
@ChrisDavey-ug6mp
@ChrisDavey-ug6mp 18 дней назад
My father 's brother took part in market garden in September 1944 ,he was a royal engineer in the first airborne division landed 7 miles from arnhem he reached the bridge but was killed when he was trying to defuse bombs that were hung underneath the bridge , his body was brought home at the of the war to be laid to rest by his family and girlfriend, who he was going to marry her at the of the war.
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 6 дней назад
One thing worth remembering is that the primary source for intelligence regarding the increased German military presence around Arnhem was not the Dutch underground or aerial photography, but intercepted and decrypted German radio and teleprinter signals. But there was significant priority given to protecting that as a source of intelligence, because if the Germans knew their ciphers were broken, they'd start using new ones, and we'd have been blacked out until they could be broken.
@meertenwelleman4600
@meertenwelleman4600 12 дней назад
I always loved the image of the field-marshall dropping his gloves into his hat.
@TommygunNG
@TommygunNG 19 дней назад
“The Longest Day” - 1962.
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 17 дней назад
Good entertainment but there's a lot of historical inaccuracy, one of them was the idea that the British tanks were just advancing down a single road. In reality, when the Germans attacked, the British tanks drove off the roads onto the farm land and went after the German anti tank guns as shown at 4:50 minutes on *"Ambush of the Irish Guards | Operation Market Garden | September 1944 by utuber - Liveth For Evermore* It says I quote " *The tanks of the 2nd Irish Guards began deploying off the road, to engage and get around the enemy.* *One of those tanks was that commanded by Lance Sergeant Bertie Cowan of number two squadron* *who was the commander* *of* *a* *Sherman* *firefly* *"Maneuvering into the fields to the left of the road, Cowans firefly spotted a German tank hidden behind a farm house."* *Firing one shot the fire fly knocked out the enemy tank after which the crew was seen scrambling out from it.* *Running towards British lines the crewmen ran into the 2nd battalions intelligence officer Captain Eamon Fitzgerald who forced them at* *gunpoint to get on the back of British tanks and point out other German positions* "* A Bridge too far attempted to make the British tanks look incompetent. 😑
@allannewell2089
@allannewell2089 19 дней назад
I have no idea, but watching your reaction to this classic film made me think you would enjoy The Right Stuff. Also a classic that is often overlooked.
@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.
@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis. 20 дней назад
This is an excellent film, which I'm happy to see that you're enjoying, Alexa.
@vincentsaia6545
@vincentsaia6545 20 дней назад
William Goldman tells great stories of the making of this movie in his two memoirs, ADVENTURES IN THE SCREEN TRADE and WHICH LIE DID I TELL? He says this movie, BUTCH CASSIDY and PRINCESS BRIDE were the best experiences he had working on a movie.
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 20 дней назад
Yes, Adventures in the Screen Trade is a very good book.
@Waterford1992
@Waterford1992 20 дней назад
14:20 The purple smoke is meant to guide the bombers to their targets.
@ed-straker
@ed-straker 20 дней назад
Never let Sean Connery teach your dog to "Sit."
@joshdavis3743
@joshdavis3743 8 дней назад
See is very smart, she picked up on it right away. Bravo.
@brettpeacock9116
@brettpeacock9116 20 дней назад
That German Fueld Marsall was the Commander in Chief of Army Froup West, ie ALL German units in France, Belgium and the Netherlands as well as Western Germany. So gis assumption that 10,000 paratroops were dropping not even 5 kilometers from his Residence/HQ was not unreasonable. Fun Fact- after he left the British took over his HQ themselves!
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 18 дней назад
@@brettpeacock9116 Yes, it shows it in the film: Field Marshal Model.
@davemac1197
@davemac1197 18 дней назад
Model was both OB (Oberkommando) West and Army Group B commander until von Rundstedt's return to OB West shown in the film on 3 September - the day Brussels was liberated by the Guards Armoured Division. Model stepped down to remain Army Group B commander, and that headquarters withdrawing from Normandy had ended up in Oosterbeek a few days before MARKET GARDEN. Fun fact: Model had hosted a dinner at his new HQ at which the commander of the Luftwaffe 3.Jagd-Division at Deelen airfield, Generalmajor Walter Grabmann, had tried to warn him that the fields to the west of his headquarters around Wolfheze were ideal landing grounds for airborne troops, but Model dismissed the idea as being too far beind the lines for an airborne operation and behind too many river barriers. The one officer who took the warning seriously was Sepp Krafft, the commander of the SS-Panzergrenadier training battalion 16 based in Arnhem - they were finishing training some Hitler Youth replacements for 12.SS-Panzer-Division 'Hitlerjugend' - and he took the step of ordering his two training companies out of their barracks in Arnhem and had them camped in the woods north of Oosterbeek as additional security for Model. This placed them in an ideal location to delay 1st and 3rd Parachute Battalions moving into Arnhem, but the line was not wide enough to stop Frost slipping past on the river road with his 2nd Battalion. The only other unit in the area was Sicherungs-Infanterie-Bataillon 908, a security unit composed of WW1 logistics troops deemed unfit for combat duty in 1914-18, and they had two companies defending Deelen airfield, and the other two defending the Ijssel bridges at Doesburg and Westervoort. They probably also provided the 25-man Arnhem bridge garrison, which was asleep on the job and not alert to Frost's approach to the bridge. These two units are the source of the intelligence brief that the local opposition were "old men on bicycles and some Hitler Youth."
@place_there9104
@place_there9104 18 дней назад
The 9th and 10th SS Panzer Divvisions had been withdrawn after being decimated on the Eastern Front and stationed at Arnhem to rest and refit. The 1st British Airborne Division dropped practically on top of them and was annihilated as a result. One of the SS divisions later adopted an alternative windmill tactical insignia on their vehicles in commemoration of the victory.
@davemac1197
@davemac1197 18 дней назад
They were decimated on the Western Front after being withdrawn from Ukraine due to the Normandy invasion, for which they had been raised and trained in counter-airborne warfare in France in 1943. They fought in the battles around Caen and held the Falaise gap open to allow the remnants of the 7.Armee to escape before being withdrawn across the Seine and eventually into the Netherlands to refit. The 1st Airborne was not dropped on top of them - the 9.SS-Panzer-Division 'Hohenstaufen' and the 10.SS-Panzer-Division 'Frundsberg' were located in the Veluwe and Achterhoek regions on the west and east banks of the River Ijssel respectively, north and east of Arnhem, while the 1st Airborne dropped west of Arnhem. 1st Airborne was destroyed because the Nijmegen bridge was not secured on the first day by the 82nd Airborne and there was a 36 hour delay while XXX Corps had to fight to secure the bridges, fatally delaying their progress to Arnhem. I have not heard of one the SS divisions adopting a windmill insignia unless it was unofficial. You may be confusing this with the heer (army) 347.Infanterie-Division, which had the windmill as its official insignia since it was a static division stationed on the Dutch coast during the occupation. The Hohenstaufen insignia was a letter 'H' bisected by a vertical sword inside an escutcheon (shield), while the Frundsberg insignia was a letter 'F' bisected with a diagonal oak leaf inside an escutcheon.
@place_there9104
@place_there9104 18 дней назад
@@davemac1197 You're probably right. My memories are from fifty plus years ago. I do distinctly remember the windmill though being adopted as an alternative tactical insignia though.
@davemac1197
@davemac1197 18 дней назад
@@place_there9104 - I think I've found it - the 'Spearhead' Hohenstaufen 9th SS Panzer Division book by Patrick Hook and published by Ian Allen seems to have a page (66) headed 'Equipment, Markings and Camouflage' with both standard and windmill symbols on it. It says the windmill variant was adopted in 1945. Good memory! It also means I've found a source to obtain this rare book, so many thanks for prompting my search - I'm very grateful! Cheers, Dave.
@Temeraire101
@Temeraire101 20 дней назад
Fantastic movie, with so many stars.
@Thetasigmaalpha
@Thetasigmaalpha 17 дней назад
There was a larger airborne operation but it went well so no one hears about it . Operating varsity crossed the Rhine early the next year.
@StuartKoehl
@StuartKoehl 2 дня назад
Yes, they really did take a chicken into Arnhem by parachute.
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 19 дней назад
My favorite line from this film was cut out of the theatrical release but added back in to the tv version in the 80's: Maj. General Ludwig: "Market-Garden was a stupid plan." Aide: "But if it had worked?" Ludwig: "It STILL would have been a stupid plan." Because it was a fucking stupid plan.
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 17 дней назад
Not nearly as stupid as the plan to attack into the fortress of Metz in a frontal assault. Market Garden in the end only cost 17,000 men compared to the Battle of Metz which cost 55,000.
@anathardayaldar
@anathardayaldar 19 дней назад
I wish more ytbers would react to this movie. My most fav war movie of all time. Longest Day is second best though it doesn't have as much interpersonal issues so general public might not enjoy it as much. Gettysburg is at least in my top 5.
@rickc661
@rickc661 16 дней назад
Yea, the film ' 12 O'clock high' uses actual combat footage - and ya can tell the difference. Also a different perspective.
@CaminoAir
@CaminoAir 20 дней назад
William Goldman said that the reviews on release were negative, because the reviewers usually thought that the script had exaggerated, or invented incidents. Goldman clarified that he only omitted elements of Cornelius Ryan's book and did not fabricate or embellish any significant details. There has been some reaction though to the screenplay simplifying the responsibility for the failure on Lt. General Browning (Dirk Bogarde). Personally, I can't comment on this, because I don't have the background knowledge.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 19 дней назад
Browning was a bit part player. General Lewis Brereton was the commanding general of First Allied Airborne Army. Brereton, and Williams of the USAAF, made the cautious decision to not fly double missions on day one and Hollinghurst of the RAF made the decision to not drop closer to Arnhem. These were the main decisions for Market Garden. Browning was against all of them but had no jurisdiction to do anything. Apparently the real life Roy Urquhart was outraged how Browning was treated in the film and wrote to his widow, the novelist Daphne du Maurier telling her he was sorry it happened. Brereton and Williams were completely left out of the film.
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 19 дней назад
@@lyndoncmp5751 Fair enough but I've also read negative accounts of Browning (mainly relating to his apparently highly strung personality) from more than one WWII historian. Basically, though, Market Garden was too risky as a whole. There were too many things that could, and did, go wrong.
@davemac1197
@davemac1197 18 дней назад
The problem was that Goldman often conflated or amalgamated or contracted various incidents together and none of them played out quite the way they are shown in the film. A good example was Sergeant 'Eddie' Dohun and his rather nervous Captain. James Caan was offered the role of Captain LeGrand 'Legs' Johnson (CO 'Fox' Coy 502nd PIR, but named in the credits as Captain Glass) but liked the role of Eddie Dohun better because it was more heroic, so the characters were reversed to suit Caan and get him on board the project. In reality, Johnson was 10 times the man Dohun was, according to people who knew both men, and was awarded the Silver Star in Normandy for bravery. The incident in which Dohun found badly wounded Johnson in a 'dead pile' and drove him to the field hospital actually involved several other casualties as well as Johnson, and Dohun pulled his pistol on a medical Major who was doing triage outside the hospital in order to get him into surgery, where he was operated on by the Division Surgeon. He was then court-martialled by his battalion commander and arrested for ten seconds and not by the doctor. If the characters had been properly cast and the drama played out true to life, it would have been even more unbelievable. This is a made in Hollywood problem. I also recently saw a video interview with Freddie Hunt, son of late 1976 British F1 champion James, about how he was annoyed by Chris Hemsworth's portrayal of his father in the film Rush (2013) as "a bit of a tw@t." He said Hemsworth made no effort to contact the family to do research and only spoke to people in the McLaren team. At the London premiere, Freddie got a chance to speak to director Ron Howard (yes, Ritchie Cunningham in '70s sitcom Happy Days) and asked him why make so many changes? When Howard said "aw man, if we had told the true story, no one would have believed it", Freddie said he nearly slapped him. Browning was badly treated by Cornelius Ryan, who researched his book after Browning had passed in 1965 and could not defend himself. The infamous aerial photo was found in a Dutch archive in 2014 and found to show obsolete tanks that were known to be miles away near the 101st Airborne's landings on D-Day of the operation and were shot up by the USAAF. Ryan's account rested on Major Brian Urquhart's interview alone (name changed to Major Fuller in the film). I've researched the Airborne Corps HQ establishment and found the Inteliigence Officer should have been a GSO I (Lieutenant Colonel), while his assistant would be a GSO II (Major), with a couple of GSO III Captains. Some of the staff positions in Browning's Corps HQ were not filled and there was no GSO I (Int), so Brian Urquhart was obviously out of his depth in such a position. After the war he was in the Civil Service and helped set up the useless and corrupt United Nations organisation, serving as its first Under-Secretary-General for 'Special Political Affairs' - apparently a euphemism for peacekeeping operations. I am not impressed with Brian Urquhart's service any more than I am impressed with Ryan's penchant for stopping digging as soon as he has found his 'story'. Ryan was a newspaperman from Dublin and was embedded with Patton's US 3rd Army during the war. I can't think of two finer colleges of anti-Montgomery military philosophy than Dublin and Patton. Dirk Bogarde served in the RAF and was on Dempsey's British 2nd Army staff during MARKET GARDEN selecting bombing targets from aerial photographs (honestly!) - he said he knew all the main players, including Browning, Dempsey and Montgomery, and thought Browning was badly served by the script. He had the option of turning down the role but obviously decided to take it, being the first A-list actor cast, and tried to mitigate the script by playing him somewhat conflicted at least. His performance still upset Browning's widow, the famous writer Daphne du Maurier. It seems that the bereaved get hurt twice.
@seanbumstead1250
@seanbumstead1250 19 дней назад
The purple smoke was to show the Airforce where the germans are so they dont accidentally hit there own troops
@williambranch4283
@williambranch4283 19 дней назад
Brave Brits.
@anathardayaldar
@anathardayaldar 19 дней назад
And no CGI ! Since it didn't exist then, but still. Nothing beats the real thing.
@MaxiWolf88
@MaxiWolf88 19 дней назад
Hi Alexa, I just found your channel and I enjoyed your reaction! Thank you!
@JeffreyCantelope
@JeffreyCantelope 15 дней назад
The movie was better planned and executed than the actual campaign
@josephanthony4621
@josephanthony4621 19 дней назад
Great reaction. I knew you would like this movie. I too saw this movie in the theater. Patton, from 1970 , is another good movie.
@Temeraire101
@Temeraire101 20 дней назад
Directed by actor Sir Richard Attenborough, check out Magic 1978 or Gandhi 1982.
@666johnco
@666johnco 20 дней назад
Between the break out from Normandy and Market-Garden there had been 14 cancelled airborne operations. This because the Allied land forces were advancing so quickly that the drop zones were being over run before the planning was finished, or in several instances with the troops getting ready to board the planes. Thats why a few tanks at Arnhem were 'ignored' by the British 1st Airborne Division, 6th Airborne had conducted the British D-Day airborne attacks, 1st was very keen to have its turn. I'm not sure if the makers of Band of Brothers could not afford to blow up a bridge but in that scene if US paras having a bridge blown in front of them. Easy Company, 506th.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 20 дней назад
The small number of obsolete German tanks were not ignored. They were rightly deemed irrelevant, because they were. They were from a small training and replacement battalion. The Germans had next to no available modern tanks in the area when the paras dropped on the 17th. It was German army units that were quickly sent into the Netherlands from deep inside Germany in the days that followed which did the damage. No intelligence knew anything about these. British 1st Airborne actually had far more anti tank guns than the Germans had tanks in Arnhem on the 17th.
@666johnco
@666johnco 20 дней назад
​@@lyndoncmp5751 There were the admittedly, remains, of two Waffen SS panzer divisions in the area, with Stugs still available to them in low numbers but same 75mm gun as on the Mrk IV, plus panzer grenadiers. With the major issue being XXX Corp coming up one road and the fact that 1st Airborne might have to hold till much later than expected, if you view Jeremy Clarkson's VC for Valour, you'll see 1st Airborne units getting a tremendous hammering from German mortars, artillery and Stug's the day after the landings. This being the main body of the divison trying to break through to help Frost's battalion. The film misses this cause 'trailing about with Urquhart.
@davemac1197
@davemac1197 19 дней назад
Fifteen cancelled operations. British I Airborne Corps gave them provisional numbers, so the original Arnhem operation COMET was provisionally FIFTEEN, and when that was cancelled Browning and Montgomery proposed the expanded operation SIXTEEN outline, which then became MARKET.
@666johnco
@666johnco 19 дней назад
@@davemac1197 I did the maths on that a long time ago and recalling it from memory I was one out. It was illustrated on Band of Brothers with Lipton telling Easy their off back to France at the end of Ep 3. the Seine bridges operation I believe, there was no real eplanation of why still in England at the beginning of ep4. Also your use of caps suggests you need to chill.
@davemac1197
@davemac1197 19 дней назад
@@666johnco - I'm going from documentation that SIXTEEN was the provisional name drawn up by Browning and Montgomery to replace COMET, and one document I've seen actually has SIXTEEN in type on the heading and crossed out with 'Market' written by hand over it. The operations drawn up by I Airborne Corps were given numbers as provisional codenames, and 1st Allied Airborne Army had only nine operations on its books at this time and didn't use the same system for codenames. I use caps for the operation names for clarity, because it's the standard used in the military and the way they are usually documented - I'm not intending to shout.
@innercircle341
@innercircle341 20 дней назад
British WW2 movies really annoy me If you watch all the classics like Sink The Bismarck! , Reach For The Sky, Battle of Britain and dozens more the impression is that the Brirish Upper Classes, the Oxbridge and Public Schoolboy classes won the war. The working class are never seen or heard. Unless they are the batman, delivering cups tea and passing on messages. As an old British man who lost two uncles and a grandfather in combat, it annoys the heck out of me that us lower class, who died in huge numbers, were so ignored by the British film industry. Not only ignored but misrepresented often as lazy, thieving, skiving and of lower moral fortitude. Just a peev. Those classic war movies are perfect reflection of the class system. It persists today
@michaelnolan6951
@michaelnolan6951 20 дней назад
Films made during WWII were noticeably more egalitarian, with a "were all in this together" vibe.(Think of films like "The Way Ahead") It wasn't until after the war that movies became more classist and focussed on leading actors (who always played officers)
@davidfrost779
@davidfrost779 20 дней назад
British war films are the best Yank ones are nothing short of a joke, America won the war type crap
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 19 дней назад
There are plenty of 'normal' accents depicted in 1st British Airborne Division away from the officers. I hear cockney and Welsh for example.
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 19 дней назад
@@davidfrost779 Some US ones aren't so good but some are. And you'd expect by and large an American war film to focus on American contributions to the war effort, same as you'd expect a British one to focus on the UK effort.
@davidfrost779
@davidfrost779 19 дней назад
@@chrisgibbings9499 Yes and Britain done more for the war than the yanks what they went through was a drop in a very deep ocean compared too what Britain and of course the rest of Europe went through
@user-hm3qk8vw3r
@user-hm3qk8vw3r 17 дней назад
Love your reactions!
@alexachipman
@alexachipman 17 дней назад
Thank you!
@gregschultz8639
@gregschultz8639 20 дней назад
I'm surprised someone else knew "When the Yanks go marching in" or whatever the title of the Bing Crosby/Andrew Sisters song is. Kudos
@alexachipman
@alexachipman 19 дней назад
It is such a catchy song!
@geniusjohn8280
@geniusjohn8280 19 дней назад
@@alexachipman Do you know We'll meet again? (Vera Lynn). I hope you sing that in part 2.
@rodlepine233
@rodlepine233 19 дней назад
Michael Caine asked the real Lt. Colonel J.O.E. Vandeleur who was a consulted on the movie what he really said and Vandeleur said: I calmly said into the microphone Well get moving
@shawnfynn7889
@shawnfynn7889 16 дней назад
Great movie, with an anti-war theme.
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 18 дней назад
You have a fantastic voice. Wow!
@alexachipman
@alexachipman 18 дней назад
Thank you!
@JohnSmith-ve8mj
@JohnSmith-ve8mj 20 дней назад
Brilliant war film just a shame that Montgomery plan was flawed and the Germans had a ss panzer division recuperating in the area plus field Marshall model was lunching nearby!!
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 20 дней назад
It was only Montgomery's broad idea. It was expanded from Operation Comet into Market Garden with far more paratroopers added after reports of more German armour. The planning wasn't done by Montgomery. It was taken over and planned by the air commanders. This was the problem. The caution of the air commanders lead to its failure, even though it still took 100km of German held ground in just 3 days. This was the fastest allied advance against German opposition in the entire September 1944 to February 1945 period.
@jackcade68
@jackcade68 19 дней назад
When i finish repairs on my TARDIS, i would just love for you to be a companion.
@jackcade68
@jackcade68 19 дней назад
Or vica-virsa.
@anathardayaldar
@anathardayaldar 19 дней назад
Too bad you can't play the music for copywrite reasons. This is my most favorite theme from a war movie. Easy top10 of any movie.
@georgeralph8031
@georgeralph8031 6 дней назад
Have you ever done stand-up comedy?...
@alexachipman
@alexachipman 6 дней назад
No, I am a former dancer, though!
@johnswift376
@johnswift376 20 дней назад
Great, epic war film, ultimately as flawed as Montgomery's plan.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 20 дней назад
It wasn't Montgomery's plan. The flawed planning was done by Brereton, Williams, Hollinghurst and the individual airborne commanders. Montgomery only had the broad idea, which was pretty well liked and militarily quite sound. It was a better idea than going into the Hurtgen Forest or wasting months trying to take Metz. Or falling asleep in front of the Ardennes.
@davidfrost779
@davidfrost779 20 дней назад
Its a British war film all the best war films are British
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 19 дней назад
Sometimes, not always!
@davidfrost779
@davidfrost779 19 дней назад
@@chrisgibbings9499 But certainly most of the time Yank war films are mostly Gung Ho! America won the war bollocks
@davemac1197
@davemac1197 18 дней назад
British crew, British anti-British director, American producer, and American screenwriter, based on a book by Irish/American anti-British journalist. Thanks to William Goldman (Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, 1969) it's hugely entertaining, and the crew did a fantastic job with period details and locations, but it's mainly Hollywood propaganda made for an American audience.
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 18 дней назад
@@davemac1197 Big spread of accusations! But was Cornelius Ryan anti-British? He seemed to give credit wherever it was due in his books including A Bridge Too Far. He could hardly avoid concluding that Market Garden was a failure but he certainly gives a positive spin to the fighting skills of the British at various stages especially mentioning that their advance from the Seine to Antwerp in early September '44 was one of the fastest advances in history, rivalling even Patton's Third Army at that time.
@davemac1197
@davemac1197 18 дней назад
@@chrisgibbings9499 - compare his research material in the Cornelius Ryan Collection, held at Ohio State University and accessible online, with what he put in his book and you'll find he omitted every possible criticism of American commanders, leaving British commanders to take the blame for the failure of the operation by default and implication. The Hollywood film adaptation was even more selective. Theatre audiences are not going to blame Brereton, Williams, and Lindquist, when they're not even cast as characters in the film - most people won't know these people even existed, never mind what impact their decisions made on the outcome of the operation. Gavin, although cast with actor Ryan O'Neal, has his bad decisions omitted from the film as well. About the only time O'Neal's daytime soap scenery chewing acting style would have been appropriate (Gavin was a very quiet considered man in person) was the scene in which he found out Lindquist was not moving on the Nijmegen bridge as instructed in the final divisional briefing, and then went to the 508th CP to chew him out - but it wasn't filmed and there isn't a single 508th trooper in the film at all. It's as if they've been excised from history. 82nd Airborne historian Phil Nordyke's combat history of the 508th - Put Us Down In Hell (2012) is quite revealing, including the Normandy chapters in exposing Colonel Lindquist's poor performance during the regiment's combat operation and the command problems that were not fully resolved before MARKET GARDEN. Cornelius Ryan was a classic newspaper journalist, he has a story he wants to tell and he ignores any element not convenient to his narrative. He didn't write fiction, and his research for the book is impressive in size and scope, but the story that was told was created very much in the edit, both book and film. The online collection of interviews and documents are hard to navigate, but it is well worth the effort if you're interested in getting to the truth. Gavin was quite open and honest in his interview with Ryan, but Ryan totally protected him by not publishing anything negative about him. Box 101, folders 9 and 10 are the Gavin correspondence and interview respectively, and I recommend you take a look.
@innercircle341
@innercircle341 20 дней назад
Disastrous plan conceived by Field Marshal Montgomery. Really annoying, cost a lot of lives and time. Patton had a far superior plan to cut straight across but was ignored because he was too rude.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 20 дней назад
Patton had already stalled trying to take Metz and still couldn't do it for another two months. Patton's Lorraine campaign was the biggest failure of autumn 1944. 52,000 battle casualties and objective still not achieved.
@chrisgibbings9499
@chrisgibbings9499 19 дней назад
@@lyndoncmp5751 Well said. Patton has had far too easy a ride over the years.
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 17 дней назад
@innercircle341 Superior plan? What you mean attacking into the teeth of the Siegfried Line defences in a FRONTAL assault? What is this World War one now? At least Montgomery had the actual sense to FLANK the German positions. Sorry but I would disagree.
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