Part 1: Chris Hedges vs. Robert Reich on Clinton, Third Parties & Next Steps for Sanders Backers

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democracynow.org - The Green Party’s national convention opens today in Houston, Texas, and Dr. Jill Stein is expected to win the party’s nomination. But will she win the support of former Bernie Sanders supporters? Last week, Democracy Now! hosted a debate between the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Chris Hedges and former Labor Secretary Robert Reich about the presidential race. Hedges has endorsed Jill Stein. Reich is backing Hillary Clinton after endorsing Bernie Sanders during the primaries. Reich served in Bill Clinton’s Cabinet as labor secretary from 1993 to 1997.
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@Closinhtown1 3 года назад

As usual Chris was right all along.

@aljam99 2 года назад

Yep agreed, hands down!

@lindahidalgo1804 Год назад

I would have said back then that I completely agree with Hedges( as I do now in 2022). .However, now in October 2022, and with the benefit of hindsight, I find Reich"s argument back then about the dangers of the Supreme Court, was also sadly justified .Who today would have thought the Supreme Court would have turned back the clock on Roe v. Wade?

@Closinhtown1 Год назад

@@lindahidalgo1804 That's on the Democrats for not codifying it into law decades ago. Now they're using Roe v Wade as a marketing tool for votes. Disgusting all the way around.

@saskk2290 10 месяцев назад

@lindahidalgo1804 The Supreme Court is wholly bought. All wars since WWII have been unconstitutional. Literally all that can be done to stop the tide of regression is mass movements. That's all that has ever done it. This isn't about getting over a hump and back into stability. Instability is here to stay RE Climate breakdown. The elites won't respond rationally, nor will their appointees in the Supreme Court unless their conflict of interest is trumped by public outcry

@rcquakes30 10 месяцев назад

Maybe demos should have codified roe 2009 when Obama had a supermajority or 2001 after winning the two senate seats in Georgia

@GeorgeCee 8 лет назад

I'm with Chris Hedges on this.

@gugy68 3 года назад

Damn, Chris is a prophet. He's so on point then and now more than ever.

@domingodeanda233 3 года назад

Hell yeah!

@Frip36 2 года назад

He's a heavyweight. And charismatic.

@SurprisedAirplane-xs5ge 2 месяца назад

@@Frip36bs is bs

@dustin8420 8 лет назад

It's clear if either of the major parties win, it's a win for corporate America.

@ghostfood260 8 лет назад

You are the man Chris Hedges! Utmost respect! You are right. Bernie absolutely should have ran independent with Jill Stein.

@Syncopator 8 лет назад

Yeah, I respect Bernie, love his ideas, but he wimped out in the end. At this point, if the Republicans could switch to Kasich, they'd be trampled by both sides rushing to vote for him in November. We've got the two worst candidates of all time to choose from, what an embarrassment. No matter which one of those two wins, we lose. And Reich's cowardly enabler attitude is mostly responsible-- you have to STAND UP and say no more BS from the democrats. You don't "hold their feet to the fire" by letting them take our votes for granted and do whatever the heck they want. Plus, Trump will not make the progressive movement disappear, he'll strengthen it.

@maryglaros395 7 лет назад

Robert Reich -- the days of voting for the lesser of two evils is OVER.

@NelsonGuzmanGarcia 2 года назад

I advice you read what happened in Germany in the 30s when people thought that way. Learned this from Chris Hedges btw.

@jannalee2036 3 года назад

Chris Hedges. Thank you for telling the truth and standing up against the democratic system

@Nine-Signs 3 года назад

I think rather he stood up for the democratic system by standing up against the democrats. ;o)

@CyberspacedLoner 10 месяцев назад

Post Democratic Party of the Corporate State

@changhongliu8454 3 года назад

Chris Hedges is amazing! He was completely right, and a visionary!

@jromo562 3 года назад

The one and only Chris Hedges keep up the good work

@davidherrarte9064 3 года назад

Reich: "I couldn't agree more with Chris Hedges more about his critique on Neo Liberalism", but I continue to support Hillary Clinton and the DNC establishment. Does this guy hear himself talk????

@I.amthatrealJuan 3 года назад

From Reich's perspective, burning the structure all down is too extreme. Expect that from someone who worked in the system.

@rabidbigdog 3 года назад

Self-awareness or self-reflection is not part of the neolib character.

@thanatu76 3 года назад

He was hoping for a future appointment from Clinton.

@stephenhall11 2 года назад

It shows how stupid professor Reich was. The night they nominated Hilary was the night Trump won. Why? Because Hilary and Bill were long time Washington crooks and everybody knew it and we're tired of it.

@abuhurairah9977 3 года назад

Here after Jimmy Dore show. It is time for a good third party.

@ByWhatDesign 3 года назад

Fight for Ranked Choice Voting first.

@thanatu76 3 года назад

It has already been here and is still here, the Green Party.

@krisburgess7429 3 года назад

And has for that fraud of a lefty u call jimmy dore dose not have the interests of the left all this clown is doing is deviding the left with the force the vote don’t get me wrong I think it is a good idea to push for media care for all but not the way Jimmy when about it he just made that issue all about him and his big fat fucking ego all he did was bash Bernie sanders and AOC only because they would not come on his show and then his fragile ego could not handle that so he whent on a bash Bernie call him a fraud and go on and on about AOC and call her and the Squad the fraud squad how original the only fraud I see trying to destroy the left is u Jimmy Dore u boot licking GOP lover and FOX News lover Donald trump lover that’s all jimmy dore is

@reinarforeman6518 2 года назад

Jimmy Dore! 🤣

@marywalters1181 8 лет назад

Voting for Jill Stein. Won't vote for lies, corruption, and voter fraud.

@marywalters1181 8 лет назад

That's the plan.

@ottrovgeisha2150 8 лет назад

Spread this message everywhere you possibly can!

@laurahoey1115 8 лет назад

So you're voting for the candidate who selected a VP, who called Sanders a White Nationalist. Ok. But ya know... standards and purity and all that.

@marywalters1181 8 лет назад

I don't think lies, corruption, and voter fraud should ever be included in a purity test. The fact that these things don't bother you is because you support a candidate who's a corrupt liar who won the nomination through voter fraud.

@laurahoey1115 8 лет назад

+Mary Walters So your ARE ok with a VP pick who claims Sanders and his supporters are White Supremiststs?

@winchesterlyon 8 лет назад

No Robert.. Bernie never held them accountable.. I love Bernie, but I just wish he would march to the tune of the speech he used to awake so many of us...

@AlchemistTongueDrums 4 года назад

Chris Hedges is such a fucking bad ass.

@chrisrutkowski4247 3 года назад

What Chris Hedges said.

@PeeedaPan 8 лет назад

I love listening to Hedges

@aljam99 2 года назад

Yep, he's taught me so much and opened my eyes to what I've always instinctively known. Chris was able to clearly and concisely verbalize this for me.....Thank you Chris, you're my hero & mentor!

@moto2kx2 8 лет назад

Chris is one of the most Awake people in our world today. There are different levels of awake and I applaud him for the level of which he has attained.

@lyndachristman2208 8 лет назад

The 2 party system is not representing the people, so the people must break it and create a new one! Only the people can do that!

@laurahoey1115 8 лет назад

Why is it "the people" (i.i. the Green Party) always figures they to start at the top and work their way down? The Green Party has effectively no one in Congressional, Senate, State or Local offices to support them. How do you propose they would govern?

@lyndachristman2208 8 лет назад

The old thinking that a persons vote can be wasted is just outdated. It was a propaganda tool that they are still trying to use against a non-establishment (Empire) party or candidate. Jill Stein is a real choice, the 2 party system is set up to discourage voters from accepting that they have a better choice.

@alloomis1635 6 лет назад

you need democracy. but the american people are not 'citizen' quality. they go about their lives, and choose between humptydee and his brother, or don't bother, since neither has anything useful to say. politicians have usurped the position at the bottom of the status ladder once occupied by pimps and child abusers, and yet there is no visible reaction from the people, who regard politician rule as ordained by god, graven on stone. they are truly cattle. 'only the people can do that!' is right, but with the proviso: 'if anyone can.' and they can't.

@joecasey7415 3 года назад

Good one Reich. WE got that revolutionary candidate for the Dems in 2020. Joe Biden. Do these clowns never get tired of lying/being wrong?

@DennisMoore664 3 года назад

And now he's doing the "you gotta vote for him or your stealing from the Democrats" bullshit. At least he wasn't trotting out that crap back in 2016. But that was because, like so many others, Trump winning was inconceivable to them.

@thanatu76 3 года назад

@@DennisMoore664 Chris Hedges is still supporting the Green Party in 2020. Hedges is consistent.Trump is a symptom of a larger problem called neoliberalism. Reich is a puppy dog for the establishment always has been.

@Jane102248 Год назад

Answer: No. Lying is what politicians do regularly. Maybe there is a class they take. 🙃

@highrzr 3 года назад

Watching this four years later, and bam, Chris Hedges just dismantles Reich.

@foodparadise5792 5 лет назад

Chris used a much stronger and accurate language. There is no hold back in the face of evil.

@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609 8 лет назад

LOL Reich had his ass handed on a tray by Hedges!!!

@vincentprice9156 3 года назад

Chris Hedges, probably the most underrated intellectual of our time. I think his credit will come but it'll be many decades after our time...

@jonnyg8501 3 года назад

This aged well, taste as fresh as 4 years ago

@samus598 3 года назад

Yep we sucked it up and got behind the failed candidate Hillary and Trump still got to pick the supreme court nominee... if only Robert didn't get paid to not understand politics he would be in complete agreement with Chris.

@EduardoGarcia-eh2rn 8 лет назад

Voting for lessor corruption doesn't solve the problem of corruption.

@MLinaresSR47 3 года назад

Heard enough from Dr. Reich and despite liking his positions on most topics of public concerns, as well as Bernie-events since the 2016 debacle of many Dems supporters (recent events of (Centralists/Neo-Liberals,”) recent events have shown that essentially, when you “hitch up your wagon by loyalty,” you’ve been proven, oh so wrong! Chris is one to reckon with and, if enough is not learned (with all due respect w/Dr. Reich’s friendship to the Clintons,) “discretion will be a better part of Valor.” Kudos to Mr. Chris Hedges.

@ana-pi6ut 4 года назад

So relevant, today.

@susangarcia1184 Год назад

Thank you 🙏🏽 Chris Hedges for speaking on our, (the poor, working and middle class) behalf.

@Bernacide Год назад

Not everyone has that much time to wait, Reich.

@JohnSmith-vm8rx 3 года назад

Awesome interview by Chris Hedges. I don’t like Robert Reich’s take here to just bit your tongue and vote lesser of two evils. That’s why we have and will always have a two party duopoly.

@Danny310563 3 года назад

they should do a repeat of this debate after Bernies capitulation, I would love to see if Reich still holds the same view

@samus598 3 года назад

I'm sure Reich's views havent changed, he is probably retired in a very expensive beach home paid for by the good graces he held on to in 2016 and 2020 primaries. He was out in 2020 to shit all over Yang's UBI, I do remember that

@draccon136 7 лет назад

The conversation could have been a bit more nuanced: Since I live in New York, I'll vote for Jill Stein. But if I lived in Florida, I would bring a barf bag and vote for Hillary. Granted, there are dozens of states where I wouldn't be sure what to do, and Hedges and Reich framing the question in a universal and moral way allows it to apply to any voter's tactical situation.

@rhondad674 3 года назад

Chris Hedges was so on point describing the created fear politics by Democrats & Republicans versus creating policies that work best to serve the country of the USA and its people and our constitution. Instead of stripping the country of our Bill of Rights and Constitutional rights.

@alohafromhh8758 8 лет назад

Jill Stein ❤ you have my support!

@rowdy3837 Год назад

Here we are 5 years later and virtually everything Chris Hedges said has been realized, and Robert Reich just endorsed Liz Cheney for president…

@moto2kx2 8 лет назад

Poland became Americanized but in a more blatant way. The USA had undergone this more than two decades ago but in a "kinder gentler way".

@gagibakija4825 2 года назад

Great to see this in retrospect!!!

@reneangulotrujillo1 8 лет назад

This is a vital period in our precioUS and innovative country. I voted for Bernie in the primary and the movement is for real. He should have ran with Jill and take the movement with him...it is sustainable and was growing. Hilary $ouled out and owe$ Wall Street! She lacks vision and if elected president will not innovate but continue the SAMO SAMO system! We mUSt go forward on our strengths in innovations and new ideals for the good of the many not jU$t the few!

@myspacebarbroke3065 3 года назад

I almost forgot to watch this today

@petersklynch 8 лет назад

Disappointed in Reich for approaching the vote in November without any nuance whatsoever. Those who don't like Clinton but could never support Trump can vote for Stein or Johnson if they don't live in swing states. And guess what? Most people don't live in swing states.

@shadyhazza 3 года назад

it took us 4 years, but here we are again. LETS DO IT

@reginaldmorton2162 7 лет назад

chris exposes the hypocracsy of robert

@markmiskulin7568 2 года назад

I'm no intellectual but I had Hillary figured out in short order. I didn't need 50 years.

@antonwesley1078 2 года назад

Tells you all you really need to know about Reich. Just another player in the game

@victoriousvicK09 8 лет назад

vote Jill/Baraka 2016

@olorin1710 4 года назад

I am registered to the green party. I voted for Bernie during primary. then went to Jill for the general. I'll do the same thing this cycle. Bernie or better. Warren is just a player, we need a leader.

@carlosmarx2178 4 года назад

Olórin Warren is a 🐍

@silversurfer4441 2 года назад

Reich says we need to think long-term when he is the one who's thinking short-term. It's Chris who's thinking long-term when he says vote blue no matter who doesn't work. Reich also said that Hillary is a product of neoliberalism but then turns around and says she'll make a great President. Which is it Robert? It can't be both. The one thing Reich did forecast correctly is the appointment of conservative justices to the Supreme Court (Kavanaugh, anyone?) if Trump gets in office.

@karlambrose261 Год назад

A two year old could have predicted that the Republicans would put in another conservative justice. Reich has no testicles , and his double speak isn't very good either. Does Reich teach at the day care center at Berkeley ?

@chaddalrymple4834 2 года назад

Funny, I haven't heard Robert Reich trying to build a third party since Biden was inaugurated.

@carolinawren3594 7 лет назад

Robert Reich is neither a progressive nor an intellectual, but a mediocre advertising executive. The contrast with Chris Hedges perfectly makes the point of what our current culture is defined by: advertising bullshit

@mariarivilis570 8 лет назад

Great debate!

@johnthepalm Год назад

Robert Reich is supporting Liz Cheney now. Case closed.

@GabrielHellborne Год назад

Goddamn, I'm seeing this for the first time, and Chris cannot get the truth out of his mouth fast enough! And poor Bob Reich; I'd like to think he's genuine and just overly-optimistic in the process. Sorry, I can't hate the guy.

@aileenpi73 3 года назад

We keep pushing the very needed third party to the next election.

@dicktracy8309 Год назад

Democracy Now should be renamed to Oligarchy Now. It would be at leased politically correct.

@Jane102248 Год назад

Right on, Chris. Thanks.

@capmarketer5038 Год назад

A coalition form of government would stop the culture of personality trend in the US

@Louloe 8 лет назад

Stein got my vote last time around. If she can climb in the polls, to the point she can beat Shillary, I may throw her it this time also. But currently on the Trump train. Dealt with an actor in the 80's. Will deal with Trump now. Nothings is bad as another Clinton/Bush in office.

@89strangelove 3 года назад

great broadcast

@angelvalentin447 Год назад

Chris chopped him into tiny little pieces

@nancievanture8551 3 года назад

I wonder. Does Reich endorse Biden now? Maybe we can work for a third party in 2024, 2028?

@samus598 3 года назад

Slow down, to quote Reich "at this point in time I just dont see any alternative"! Let's just elect a shitty neoliberal, I'm sure in 2024 it will be better.

@dizzitoast 8 лет назад

Thank you so much Democrazy Now. Look at the quality of people that you bring on. I am grateful for you and for this debate.

@tpowell3776 8 лет назад

I will never vote for HRC, I'm voting for Jill Stein, I urge everyone to not allow this culture of fear and despair to continue, vote the candidate who shares your values, it's time, to stop the madness!!

@60secondpolitics56 8 лет назад

Voting for Jill Stein this year because I have heard everything Robert Reich said repeated every single election cycle. No more voting for the lesser evil; this time I am voting for the greater good.

@Lobos222 8 лет назад

Describe this debate: Pessimist vs Optimist. :)

@dulynoted2427 2 года назад

Ranked Choice Voting will fix this.

@user-vu1nc1bb4b 8 лет назад

*There's never going to be a good time to start voting for real change. Trump getting in is not the worst thing that can happen. If the price of starting the engine of actual systemic change is a single trump term.. then that is what it takes*

@skypatrol716 3 года назад

Catatonic in 2016 and still catatonic in 2020.

@MiguelFlores-bp9sn 8 лет назад

I hope this time Hillary will not rigge it even if Jill Stein wins 99.9%....

@learningisgrowing 8 лет назад

Wasn't this uploaded last week?

@danthemansmail 8 лет назад

Reich is a good man but just can't make the leap. Perhaps unconsciously he holds back because like many others, the true reality is just to horrible to contemplate. That is why Chris Hedges is so important...he is uncompromising and tells the truth to power no matter the consequences. His is a dark dark view of the world. Too bad he can back up everything he says. Things are just that bad.

@marthacmd 8 лет назад

round one for Chris Hedges

@randyleerandyleerandylee 8 лет назад

Begin voting on principle and principle alone.

@FratFerno 3 года назад

Besides judges and Justices, what permanent harm has Trump done to our country? We can rebuild and even override his flimsy pillars of power if we really stand up and fight back.

@jackiebailey6253 3 года назад

They still do not have his email list wow👍

@mothersmilk644 3 года назад

Hedges in beast mode

@rhymeswithteeth Год назад

This conversation didn't age well.

@Pawadin 8 лет назад

Cmon Robert you are too modest we all know you are the single most functional economic driving force behind positive economic change inthe last ccouple decades.

@iceangel1701d 2 года назад

Hedges! Such an accurate assessment of our political/societal situation. Hedges for president!

@rhythmandacoustics 5 лет назад

watching this now in 2019 and Chris Hedges is right on Spot!!! 2020 Bernie!!! Bernie better not back off this time!!

@nshake007 3 года назад

:'(

@elduende367 3 года назад

Weekend @ Bernies' did it again Reich is so full of it by not walking his talk! ...

@jaelynnzee9091 6 лет назад

It's these GREEDY ass BOOMERS. They had the best decades of the US. My childhood home in 1975 was $21k, that SAME house 40 years later sells for $130k! Yet wages have GONE DOWN! How is this possible? Also, how is it possible that COLA's are not keeping up with inflation and rental increases. My two room flat was $120 cheaper in 2008! Now, my rent is nearing 50% of income and there's no bedroom, dishwasher, laundry, garbage disposal and NO IMPROVEMENTS. How can rent go up that much with nothing changing? I've given this landlord over $35k in rent and I wish that could have gone towards a home. It's not fair that homes were affordable four decades ago on one person's salary, and now it takes two people working 60 hr weeks, to buy a home!

@petersjostedt8600 2 года назад

Thank you Chris...

@zachbergmann7916 7 лет назад

Does Chris Hedges sound passionate? Usually when I listen to him, it makes me sad because he sounds so hopelessly defeated all the time. I almost feel like we can fight it, listening to him now. He can be a little unforgiving sometimes though...

@tonypalomino4253 3 года назад

Bernie betrayed the movement.

@HOOTH2 3 года назад

Hedges for Pres.

@rajubaju9070 8 лет назад

This comment about Poland was much exaggerated! Yes we have some problems here in Poland, but situation is not worse to what you have in the US today. Neofascists who gained power lost much of the support already. They have 32% in the polls and they will lose power in the next elections. Militia? We don't have any militia. Maybe he refers to the newly created National Guard? Nobody shoots on the street. All of this created many political problems. I'm a Socialdemokrat, so I would never support right-wing government obviously. but I'm also certain, that the next elections will end this toxic situation. Although he's got right about one thing; Neoliberalism is a way to the Neofascism.

@johne.mckenzie9344 7 месяцев назад

Chris tells it like it is! He's right!

@robertmurdock8164 2 года назад

Reich consciously or unconsciously is doing the bidding of the corporate oligarchy He doesn’t see the undemocractic nature of the corporate state

@dulynoted2427 2 года назад

Chris Hedges, is about surgically fixing the system. Robert Reich, is about applying a bandaid.

@armondoserna2342 2 года назад

Should I talk in poetry?

@ofoghladha2110 2 года назад

Hey Robert you can't have it both ways.

@gregwills8981 8 лет назад

Hedges, you can not explain that you hesitated in supporting Bernie because he said he would ultimately support the DNC's nominee and work with in their framework and then call him a traitor for doing exactly what he said he would do. If the movement did not understand where Bernie's loyalties lie, that it is on the movement. Other than that, amen brother.

@ryanlacroix6425 8 лет назад

repost, no?

@WhatUpDoe. 8 лет назад

We don't have til 2020!

@deraculandrac917 3 года назад

Damn Chris you knew Bernie was full of shit before he became the favorite.

@marthacmd 8 лет назад

7:45- Amy Goodman she could not help herself as she helps Mr. Reich "remember"

@KnutFan 8 лет назад

this conversation proves how all that we see is in the eye of the beholder (we each give it our own meaning). the same situation is interpreted in a very different ways by two different people. Then add the viewers and our individual, unique points of view. What is the Truth here? just a little existentialism for ya in the middle of the apparent tempest