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Part 2 Briggs 450E Webb Lawnmower No Compression 

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We fit a new head gasket to this Webb Lawn Mower fitted with a Briggs And Stratton 450E engine. We also check the valves for leaks and reset the valve clearance to 6 thou for the inlet and 8 thou for the exhaust.
Will it run, let's fine out.
One of our Subscribers got this information on these engines directly from Briggs And Stratton:
“8P” & “9P” Briggs and Stratton single cylinder vertical shaft ohv engine
Torque values:
Flywheel nut_____________________60 ft. lbs.
Cylinder head ___________________140 in. lbs.
Connecting rod__________________100 in. lbs.
Sump cover______________________85 in. lbs.
Rocker cover_____________________50 in. lbs.
Clearances:
Intake valve_____________________.004-.008
Exhaust valve____________________.004-.008
Piston ring end gap:
Top_____________________________006-.014
Middle__________________________006-.014
Oil Control______________________.008-.028
Specifications Model: 80000
Displacement 7.63 ci.
Bore 2.362 in.
Stroke 1.75 in.
Oil Capacity 15 oz.
Spark Plug Gap .020 in.
Spark Plug Torque 180 lb-in.
Armature Air Gap .006 - .014 in.
Intake Valve Clearance .004 - .008”
Exhaust Valve Clearance .004 - .008 in.
Model: 90000
Displacement 8.64 ci.
Bore 2.495 in.
Stroke 1.75 in.
Oil Capacity 15 oz.
Spark Plug Gap .020 in.
Spark Plug Torque 180 lb-in.
Armature Air Gap .006 - .014 in
Intake Valve Clearance .004 - .008 in.
Exhaust Valve Clearance .004 - .008 in.
The engine model number is stamped (very lightly) into the side of the engine body on these little engines. They are called "8P" and "9P" engines as their model numbers begin with these numbers and letters.
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@offbeatwarble
@offbeatwarble 4 года назад
Can confirm these e series engines (80000) are 4 to 8 thou both intake and exhaust, so you're sorted 👍
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Cheers bud
@floydsmith2296
@floydsmith2296 4 года назад
I appreciate that you include your mistakes. We've all been there and your humility is refreshing. Another video well xone!
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Thanks Floyd.
@professionalidiots101
@professionalidiots101 4 года назад
Nice little mower, one man's junk is another man's treasure. And that is a great fund.
@999thenewman
@999thenewman 4 года назад
You may be asking yourself why Martin set the valve clearance "backward," however, intakes loosen with use, and exhausts tighten. Martin is extending future engine life.
@exinanition2307
@exinanition2307 4 года назад
Mister Retrorestore, I understand your frustration in searching for the specifications for this engine. I went through the same thing about two years ago. I found nothing online so I went to the source. Please note the spark plug gap is only .020 inch! Here is a chart of information on this engine which I got directly from Briggs and Stratton: “8P” & “9P” Briggs and Stratton single cylinder vertical shaft ohv engine Torque values: Flywheel nut_____________________60 ft. lbs. Cylinder head ___________________140 in. lbs. Connecting rod__________________100 in. lbs. Sump cover______________________85 in. lbs. Rocker cover_____________________50 in. lbs. Clearances: Intake valve_____________________.004-.008 Exhaust valve____________________.004-.008 Piston ring end gap: Top_____________________________006-.014 Middle__________________________006-.014 Oil Control______________________.008-.028 Specifications Model: 80000 Displacement 7.63 ci. Bore 2.362 in. Stroke 1.75 in. Oil Capacity 15 oz. Spark Plug Gap .020 in. Spark Plug Torque 180 lb-in. Armature Air Gap .006 - .014 in. Intake Valve Clearance .004 - .008” Exhaust Valve Clearance .004 - .008 in. Model: 90000 Displacement 8.64 ci. Bore 2.495 in. Stroke 1.75 in. Oil Capacity 15 oz. Spark Plug Gap .020 in. Spark Plug Torque 180 lb-in. Armature Air Gap .006 - .014 in Intake Valve Clearance .004 - .008 in. Exhaust Valve Clearance .004 - .008 in. Another quick bit of information for future reference for you. The plastic top of the choke lever in the carburetor will often, after time, begin to drag on the metal bracket to which the carburetor is mounted. This will cause the choke to stick in the closed position which will cause the engine to puke black smoke and will eventually foul the spark plug. The solution for this problem is very easy. Simply file the corners on the top of the plastic choke stem which protrudes above the carburetor so it does not hang on the carburetor mounting bracket. The engine model number is stamped (very lightly) into the side of the engine body on these little engines. They are called "8P" and "9P" engines as their model numbers begin with these numbers and letters. I hope this information will help you, sir. Thanks for the video and "Happy wrenching"!
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Great info bud. I'll put the specifications in the video description. That should help a lot of people too. Cheers Martin
@TheRangeringo
@TheRangeringo Год назад
Superb video.. I fixed my engine thanks to this video!! Valve tappets were loose
@retrorestore
@retrorestore Год назад
Nice work!
@kenrickarthurs
@kenrickarthurs 4 года назад
Hi it's me again......maybe you should build a jig so when your mowers are on the bench it holds it in place for you to stop the mower rolling on it's wheels...just thought i could mention this.....great vid's.....keep them coming.....
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Im on the lookout for a lift table
@deandempsey264
@deandempsey264 4 года назад
I never doubted ya not for a second fair play
@Parknest
@Parknest 4 года назад
A right result there. Your diagnosis was spot on too. That mower is running sweet and it looks like new.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Good earner there Dave.
@lawnmowerdude
@lawnmowerdude 4 года назад
Who doesn’t love a good running little mower.
@AnthonyCurreri
@AnthonyCurreri 4 года назад
That boy really should smile once in a while.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
he has a disabled daughter who needs 24 hour care and a constant worry bud. That's probably the reason.
@wildefox1478
@wildefox1478 4 года назад
Great work repairing that engine, at least it was a simple fix to repair the no compression issue, just a bad head gasket. Keep up the great work Martin!
@alanhodgson5975
@alanhodgson5975 4 года назад
Martin the lawnmower whisperer spanning your knowledge on the web mower motor keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍👍
@69Phuket
@69Phuket 4 года назад
Frank Kent? Ain't that Superman's younger Brother...? Thanks Frank...We won't have to see the bubbling crude making a mess anymore! ;)
@frankbing1
@frankbing1 4 года назад
Thanks for the mention Martin it’s much appreciated, roll on summer.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Thank you for your support. Greatly appreciated.
@andrewwoodward6560
@andrewwoodward6560 4 года назад
I liked how you identified the compression stroke for us . Nice video guys !
@sidthescenic09
@sidthescenic09 4 года назад
I do wonder why your channel isn't at 100k with many thousands of views. your content never gets boring. love the tinkering and day to day jobs
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
It keeps dropping back bud. I don't know why
@Jimmiburn
@Jimmiburn 4 года назад
Impressive evaluation Martin as always, and a nice little fix as well....👌
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Cheers bud.
@MowerMan
@MowerMan 4 года назад
Great fix Martin! Good advice about finding top dead centre on a 4 stroke as well!
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Cheers Paul
@lesliecram2415
@lesliecram2415 4 года назад
Thanks so much for this...our mower has low compression and I checked everything BUT 1. Do the cylinder leak test 2. Change the head gasket
@themowerman
@themowerman 4 года назад
Just got round to watching this. Good job. Nice little mower. Should turn a penny. Hope the family are all good
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Cheers Mick Yes it should. Lucky Gary, I just get to fix it lol
@saleemkader2126
@saleemkader2126 2 года назад
Very nicely explained step by step. please make more videos
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 2 года назад
I have a playlist full of Lawnmower videos bud.
@gott2641
@gott2641 4 года назад
Glad to see it working once again! This will make a nice little trim work mower for someone! Well done!
@cabdriveruk
@cabdriveruk 4 года назад
Great video Martin. The job is a good one now running great. Those tappets are a fiddle lol. Cheers, Jeff.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Yes they are Jeff, stupid design.
@frankie9259
@frankie9259 4 года назад
Love the videos Martin. I enjoy working on small engines and if I had more space I would have 50 old lawn mowers sitting around the house .
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Yes, I have a good few too Frankie lol
@garethprice8818
@garethprice8818 4 года назад
Briggs 450e plug gap. 020in. inlet and exhaust valve between. 004-.008in or . 10-.20 mm in new money. Spark Plug torque is 20nm. I have the same engine on my mower and have the original engine manual. Great little profit on that 1.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
I was in the right ball park then Gareth.
@trainout2grass1
@trainout2grass1 4 года назад
Good to see it up and running again Martin, well done.
@barbarawiddowson635
@barbarawiddowson635 4 года назад
Martin the mower maestro. Keep it up.
@davidyoung6608
@davidyoung6608 4 года назад
Great video. Glad you was able to get that mower up and running again.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Thanks Dave. Should sell quickly.
@ClassicCarCave
@ClassicCarCave 4 года назад
Martin, That‘s a sweet little mower now i‘m sure you will have no bother moving it on! Cheers Dave
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
I agree Dave, Gary will make a few bob on that one.
@benmakepeace5759
@benmakepeace5759 4 года назад
Good job Martin, tell Gary to cheer up 🙄😂
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Gary has a disabled daughter who needs 24 hour caring bud, Not much to smile about i'm afraid.
@benmakepeace5759
@benmakepeace5759 4 года назад
Sorry to hear that mate. I was only joking I wish him all the best x
@turbolivesinmyheart6328
@turbolivesinmyheart6328 4 года назад
I knew you could do it, Martin. Sounds like it runs pretty good now.
@glennmoreland6457
@glennmoreland6457 4 года назад
Martin: If your not 100% sure on EXACT valve clearance...then allow a couple of thou more on each... To avoid possible valve burnout...🇬🇧👍
@Jasonhughes258
@Jasonhughes258 4 года назад
Nice repair Runs sweet as a nut Burt Burt don’t say much and likes keeping his hands clean. Will he be handling the sell of mower 😂😂 Martin and Gary top guys 👍
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Its Gary's mower Jason.
@Jasonhughes258
@Jasonhughes258 4 года назад
And you’re doing all the work UNBELIEVABLE 😂
@AJPsWorkshop
@AJPsWorkshop 4 года назад
Great video martin runs spot on
@valborchardt3596
@valborchardt3596 4 года назад
Heyo. Lovely mower Martin and runs very quiet too. Well done. Take care as always
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Thanks Val
@torchyboyz
@torchyboyz 4 года назад
Another nice little vid, thanks Martin. Paul.
@AliMackMechanical
@AliMackMechanical 4 года назад
Good Job Martin mate you where right about that Gasket should work well for another while.👌👍
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Thanks Ali, I see you got that flymo running. Sounds a bit fast though bud.
@AliMackMechanical
@AliMackMechanical 4 года назад
@@retrorestore Yeah the spring on govner I think is a bit weak so I think that's why she's running fast thanks for noticing 👌👍
@doublewide6
@doublewide6 4 года назад
Nice work, I like the carb cleaner to test the valves trick;)
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Cheers Bob, simple and quick.
@MerlinZener
@MerlinZener 4 года назад
I use a bit of petrol to do that, probably a bit cheaper than carb cleaner
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
@@MerlinZener It was there so I used it. No problem.
@69virgin1966
@69virgin1966 4 года назад
Great job the both of you. A simple fix. Keep the great videos coming. Thanks for sharing and God bless
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Thanks Roy.
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 4 года назад
Martin your engine numbers for this engine would be on the crankcase between the oil filler and exhaust. It's not the easiest place to locate them and you will require a bright torch. The number should start with a number then a letter (this engine would have 8P as the first two digits). The serial number sticker is only for dealer and warranty use. Only the early models had the engine numbers stamped on the plate you pointed out.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Thanks Ben, its sold now lol
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 4 года назад
@@retrorestore I used to work for a mower dealer so I know where they hide the engine numbers on most of the Briggs and Stratton, Honda, Kawasaki engines and other engines. If you ever have a similar one of these Briggs and Stratton engines with a fuel issue the engine number is definitely needed to buy the correct plastic fuel jet or carburettor because they aren't easy to clean compared to the older sprint engine carburettors. Also they do the similar engines with the same design but with different power outputs, this is why the engine numbers are crucial to get.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
@@bentullett6068 Thanks for explaining that Ben
@radarwarrior5459
@radarwarrior5459 3 года назад
Gary thumps up to you. I know what it’s like not being able to open my mouth 👍
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 3 года назад
This is the second comment you've made like this, what are you on about.
@sarto7bellys
@sarto7bellys 4 года назад
Have a look at mustie 1’s channel he’s always “ bringing back “ dead mowers and such and also Donnyboy 73 he is small engine repair, both are mines of info
@rasmo243
@rasmo243 4 года назад
Intake and Exhaust valve clearance 0.004-0.008 same setting for both nice fix good as new
@Mark-ir9gl
@Mark-ir9gl 4 года назад
Well done Martin keep up the good work Mate 👏👍🍺ps tell Gary to smile 😂👍
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Gary has a lot on his plate with a disabled daughter with 24 hour care needs bud. Not much to smile about i'm afraid
@Mark-ir9gl
@Mark-ir9gl 4 года назад
@@retrorestore didn't mean that in a nasty way 👍
@garywalker3818
@garywalker3818 4 года назад
good job martin gary from crewe
@OurDaysOut
@OurDaysOut 4 года назад
Nice one Guys
@garyeales1116
@garyeales1116 4 года назад
Well done Martin and Gary, nice job 👍
@SCOTTISHPREPPERVARIETYCHANNEL
@SCOTTISHPREPPERVARIETYCHANNEL 4 года назад
Fantastic revive fixed someone else mess properly grand job
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Thanks Chris, yes, I think someone else had the head off and broke the gasket.
@michaeljones3512
@michaeljones3512 4 года назад
Hi Martin you sure it wasn't Bert jeynes from Milton Keynes that sent the oil extractor love the lawnmower videos especially how to find top dead center keep up the good work
@vijayantgovender2045
@vijayantgovender2045 4 года назад
Thank you Martin always enjoy your videos
@normsmowers4758
@normsmowers4758 4 года назад
Cracking job Martin fantastic video
@abmac58
@abmac58 4 года назад
YEH He's back
@davidvickers9029
@davidvickers9029 4 года назад
nice one Martin and Gary
@Charlie_Crown
@Charlie_Crown 4 года назад
Another great, informative vid. Very useful info Martin, clearly explained, your a star 👌
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Thanks bud
@mrodriguez5259
@mrodriguez5259 4 года назад
Excelent 5 stars
@ionracer24
@ionracer24 4 года назад
Stellar vid as always martin, keep em comin
@TheHomeImprovementChannel
@TheHomeImprovementChannel 2 года назад
thank u!
@berndb.5097
@berndb.5097 4 года назад
From me, no thumbs down ;-) Good work Martin!
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Thanks Bernd
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 4 года назад
Good work. You've got a lot of value there.
@gerrydays1909
@gerrydays1909 4 года назад
Well done Martin 🔧🔧😃😃
@Christophergriffiths1972
@Christophergriffiths1972 4 года назад
Nice work. Good little mower for £25! 😊
@haydenuk02
@haydenuk02 4 года назад
Brilliant work Martin thanks for the awesome content
@markellis4229
@markellis4229 4 года назад
Happy days Martin 👍
@stephenwhite3832
@stephenwhite3832 4 года назад
Great vid Martin, very good information
@eifiondavies2662
@eifiondavies2662 4 года назад
good job martin as always
@baldanddangerous1572
@baldanddangerous1572 4 года назад
as arthur daily used to say a nice little earner its a cracken lawnmower ,all the best. martin.........................................dougie
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Cheers Doug, yes it is bud. A good find.
@pattayperformance
@pattayperformance 4 года назад
SPOT ON! Amazing how such a new machine blew a head gasket! #payday
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
I think the last owner must have removed the head and broke the gasket.
@pattayperformance
@pattayperformance 4 года назад
@@retrorestore I saw that you mentioned it in the video. Unfortunelty I never took apart a new machine to that extent. Even the old ones the head bolts had a little resistance to them bc the had a lock tite on em. I THINK newer machines lack the lock-tite on em for economic reasons. I wouldn't be surprised if the headbolts worked themselves loose too due to poor OC.
@pattayperformance
@pattayperformance 4 года назад
@@retrorestore OFF TOPIC QUESTION... WHen you go live...how do you rotate from youtube Live Camera Showing your wife and you to what is on your screen?
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
@@pattayperformance You just add a Picture or video clip into the OBS software scene panel and just click on it to play it.and when you want to go back to the live camera, just click on the live camera again.
@pattayperformance
@pattayperformance 4 года назад
retrorestore thanks for answering! It’s not through YT you use a different app
@lawrencedolan474
@lawrencedolan474 4 года назад
Excellent content as ever 👍👍
@vwcol..7719
@vwcol..7719 4 года назад
Nice job Martin and burt👍
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Cheers Col
@lord.onk99
@lord.onk99 4 года назад
Very informative and entertaining, Thanks. Whats up with Bert has he got the hump ? Lol
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
He's fine Ken. He has a disabled Daughter with 24 hour needs so he doesn't smile a lot.
@Jim-ie6uf
@Jim-ie6uf 4 года назад
Plain Jane ones of those are $139.99 at Walmart, over here. The engines and carbs are crap.. not worth fixing unless your selling it on. I think the engine number is on the side of the block. I can’t find any info, as of yet. Cheers. Jim
@billywhizz98
@billywhizz98 4 года назад
A good informative video
@antonybrown5285
@antonybrown5285 4 года назад
Interesting well done.
@bobbaleno4894
@bobbaleno4894 4 года назад
3:28 studs installing studs its like inception. LOL i kill me
@danmackintosh6325
@danmackintosh6325 4 года назад
Have to wonder, who pulled the head in the first place and why. For them to sell a £200+ mower for 20 quid, must have more money than sense!
@paulthompson5416
@paulthompson5416 4 года назад
🤦🏼‍♂️ flip Martin don't encourage people to thumbs down 😂
@righteyeblink8996
@righteyeblink8996 4 года назад
Yea, the B&S motors are no BS !!☑
@2094Ryan
@2094Ryan 4 года назад
Top job Marty boy, love it. What about that old chopper bike you have knocking about. You going to get it sorted?
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
One day we'll have a go.
@stephenr6427
@stephenr6427 4 года назад
Cheers lads
@johnmitchell1614
@johnmitchell1614 Год назад
Thanks Martin and, , Bert? That was great. So were the engine specs. Where do you buy your gaskets from, if I may ask? Best regards.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore Год назад
Garden Hire Spares we use.
@69Phuket
@69Phuket 4 года назад
Sweet little earner!
@scotchcrofter9964
@scotchcrofter9964 4 года назад
Good job.
@ianhancock6890
@ianhancock6890 4 года назад
Hello Martin Have you thought of restoring a Raleigh chopper up it would make a good video
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Yes but they are silly prices now bud.
@kevinburns5762
@kevinburns5762 4 года назад
Frank Kent from stoke on trent 😂
@clauslundberg9224
@clauslundberg9224 4 года назад
The chinaman forgot to stamp in in the number - good laugh. Runs nicely. Great fix - thanks for sharing
@LFBsmokealarm
@LFBsmokealarm 4 года назад
Frank Kent from Stoke On Trent; poet do you think?
@garymucher9590
@garymucher9590 4 года назад
Martin, nice cheap head gasket fix. I have to ask, does Gary ever smile?
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Gary has a lot on his plate with a disabled daughter with 24 hour care needs bud. Not much to smile about i'm afraid
@garymucher9590
@garymucher9590 4 года назад
@@retrorestore Oh I am so sorry for him. I will pray for him and his family. Some times you never know what is going on in someone's life... God Bless.
@micknolan9929
@micknolan9929 Год назад
my bloody qualcast B/S engine working three weeks ago now wont start all the norm things are fine fuel . filter etc
@MARKLOCKWOOD2012
@MARKLOCKWOOD2012 4 года назад
It supplies the electrical power to the spark plug wire being faulty was my thinking 🤔
@danielclift1
@danielclift1 3 года назад
why would you leave a thumbs down tho ?
@mikehrdlicka8635
@mikehrdlicka8635 5 месяцев назад
Dosent the big nut adjust rockers, the center torx locks it?
@paulelliott2861
@paulelliott2861 4 года назад
nice one
@AdamEichmann
@AdamEichmann 4 года назад
Intake always set on most engines at 0.04 thou And exhaust 0.06 thou
@ronniekray6918
@ronniekray6918 4 года назад
Strange the head gasket has gone on such a young mower.doesn’t look like it’s done much work.must have got hot.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
I would suggest someone took the head off and that's what caused it to fail. You never know what people get up to.
@theparson4944
@theparson4944 4 года назад
Hi Martin who do you buy your parts from for the Briggs and Stratton classic? Would you stay clear of Chinese supply?
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
Normally from Garden Hire Spares bud. the Some Chinese stuff is ok but some is rubbish
@prestigelawncare6657
@prestigelawncare6657 4 года назад
Hey Martin does happy chops ever smile much on camera?
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 4 года назад
He has a disabled little girl with a life limiting condition bud so he doesn't have a lot to smile about.
@prestigelawncare6657
@prestigelawncare6657 4 года назад
@@retrorestore oh boy that's tough.... my apologies mate
@jcheney2473
@jcheney2473 2 года назад
i've got a Murray 450E the rocker arms have the #4 stamped on them (i saw that yours had a #3 stamped on them). it takes a 1/4" socket to tighten them. the allen screw was missing when i got it. what size allen nut do i need? i can't tighten the rocker without them as you know, thanks.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 2 года назад
I can't remember bud, it was a while ago sorry.
@barryroach1980
@barryroach1980 4 года назад
"Frank Kent from Stoke on Trent" Are you on cockney slang again Mart?
@andycousins5016
@andycousins5016 4 года назад
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