Passing A Portal Through Itself 

I mean, it’s a good design :D

It's not only allowed, but it's just what people recognize. And simple color coding that exist so player could easily understand which one is which makes it good too. Darksiders have same colored portals, iirc. But they look a little difference. Valve was and still is good at making games.

GLaDoS was right: "Now you're thinking with Portals."

@@Netsuki Darksiders' portals are a direct reference to Valve's portals. If Vigil had never heard of Portal, they would have come up with a different design (or more likely, not have come up with the idea for the Voidwalker at all)

@@CrashSable Everything is inspired by something. If Doom didn't exist, Half-Life would have never been made either. But from mathematical point of view, there is no "what if". It's everything that You can easily calculate. Or maybe not easily, because You have to start to think with portals, but that's just a math. If one point of first portal corresponds with one specific point of the other one, it's all calculable, computable. And we know how these portals work, so anything we don't know, can be just simply calculated.

movable portals are actually possible, and are only used once in portal 2 the reason you dont see it more often is because the physics are completely broken when you enter a moving portal

@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 This has to do with the fact that portals in the portal games have temporary invisible platforms generated to prevent players from getting stuck, among other generated structures that you can't see and often only exist for a few seconds, if even 1.

Technically all portals are moving because motion is relative. The portal to the moon was orbiting the earth portal

@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 Chop those neurotoxin tubes.

@@danielgreenwood793 in portal those are perfectly still.

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@@kavearn2 ... your point?

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when you have crazy math and computer skills, stick figure animation ability.

I always think the thumbnail is the eye of sauron.

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@@chilliamlikeschillies LMAOOOOOO 😭😭😭😭💀💀

@@Meme_angel 1 less O and that would be something else

just like ninjas...

what if 3d space is the portals

doors.

It is the same problem with monopoles.

Well, in a sense you are right. There are theories about how space emerges from tiny wormholes (ER = EPR). A portal is kind of a simplified wormhole, maybe 🙂

Well what is ironic about that is the one from the game don't even function like this. So if he were going off the portals and the rules from that world, then this entire video is much like the cake, a lie.

What is different about the ones from the game?

@@xradar8349 the portals from the game have a certain set of rules and laws in adherence with the world of portal. When one portal is placed with no link to the other side, it remains closed until the second portal is on a stationary surface. So it is impossible to fire one side of a portal link into the other. Therefore this video is not going off the rules of the portals in the game. So no, the man doesn't talk about portals in the game being the universal standard, because if he were doing that then the entire video would be incorrect. Which it is, if based on a fictional idea in a fictional realm with already well established (albeit also fictional) rules for how _those_ portals function. The more I think about it the more this entire video irritates me hahah.

@@ggmann13 true but he talks about them being orange and blue and being connected to each other and stuff. A portal could be anything if you just call it a portal with no further specification like he did. Could be the portals from Rick and Morty for example or just a normal door. He just starts talking based on the game and makes an "what if the portals from the game where actually like this?" out of it.

@@electricpaisy6045 yes exactly he could have used portals from rick and Morty or just fictional portals full stop lol. But when he immediately pulled the portals from _portal_ he fucked up by pigeon holing himself like he did.

Someone else mentioned a game called Superliminal where this is a puzzle solution... because you're trapped in a recursive set and need to destroy reality to continue.

Wouldn't throwing one portal into the other equalize the sizes? If one portal is a ratio from another portal, say 2x, and you throw a 1m long portal into a 2m long portal in a way that fits, you'd have 2 2m portals after

@@dan.w.2432 Just the opposite. What comes out of the smaller portal should be smaller than what goes into the larger one. So if we insert a smaller portal into a larger one, an even smaller copy should come out of the smaller one, and from that copy an even smaller one, and from that an even smaller one, and so on ad infinitum. So, referring to your example - if we insert a 1 m portal into a 2 m portal, then a 0.5 m portal should come out of the 1 m portal, a 0.25 m portal comes out of it, a 0.125 m portal comes out of it, and so on ad infinitum. This is what I get from my calculations, although this answer makes me have even more questions. If I had infinitely many such increasingly smaller portals, what would happen if two different objects entered two different ones? Which of them would come out through the larger portal, or maybe both of them would come out at the same time (but how is that possible)? If I looked at a larger portal, which of the smaller portals would I see there? If I wanted to put the smaller portals back in, but only two of them, and leave the rest untouched indefinitely, what would happen? If a person entered a large portal, and infinitely many small copies of it emerged, which of them would contain the consciousness of the person who entered? If I hit one of his copies (but only one), would the original remember it after returning through the small portal and exiting through the large one (if returning was even possible)?

Ive always preferred purple for other reasons

Well They are really god fucking games

I mean, even in the game there's more than two colours. In co-op mode eventually there has to be 4 simultaneous portals.

@@snerttt Still works, each character is blue and orange respectively and has portal colours reflecting the components of that Orange has red and yellow Blue has cyan and indigo

@@tuser8 never thought of that!

I wonder who is that

Me, probably.

yep

Funny coincidence, I also just started back through the Portal series because I got my Steam Deck. Crazy timing.

Since Portal 2 will be given away for Xbox Live Gold users I'll go and play it one more time

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@@trout3685 ok trout.

You AGAIN ?

Your everywhere

@@Leptronium HIS everywhere?

yet still not iconic enough for valve to get off their lazy asses and make us a portal 3 :c

@@reznovvazileski3193 valve can't count that high smh

@@xdrakken4710 They made: 3 games with teleporters 3 games with Ellen McLain 3 games with sentry guns 3 games with scientists of questionable sanity 3 games with secret underground bases 3 games where you can disintegrate your foes All in one box They love doing things in threes

@@reznovvazileski3193 apparently there was a portal 3 VR planned but it caused motion sickness

@@MelodiesFromTheStars Yea I can kinda imagine that lmao that sounds nauseating and I'm not easily motion sick :')

Doubtful, as he is thinking of them as objects, while they're literally non-objects. It's like saying, I'm going to pass this void through this other void... There's nothing there, a hole is not an object.

@@livedandletdie when u r talking about passing portal through portal u have to assume them to be material

@@livedandletdie no he said they were on objects. The portal itself is not an object no shit it’s a wormhole

@@livedandletdie You can clearly see in the drawing that they are ontop of a metal plate

The blue portal is attached to the plate to the plate going through takes the portal with it

Geometry dash portals also look like the Portal ones

Yeah

@@OLLGY69 and many many more, because of the game portal (which is way older than geometry dash)

@@angulinhiduje6093 Honestly, I'm still stuck on Diablo 1 and 2 portals, since, while looking like portal's portals, come so much earlier stylistically that I wonder if some design queues weren't derived from them

You're welcome. That is what we achieve at Aperture Laboratories. Making the impossible, possible.

That is what they did with programming...

@@jwonz2054 go make this animation with programming. If u dont do it you are fucking doomed

Blender gets it.

@@abhirupkundu2778 bet

mb dislike was accidental

It's non-euclidian space/plane study. Technically science, but in the Math department

@@witherschat I think a professor told me that Math and Science are alike in that Science qualitatively explains Math, and Math quantitively explains Science

@@swivel_z1371 yah but Math only tool and if dont use physic right math will not explains any. Actualy this vido explaonetion wrong. Autor does not take into account portal physics he make only Math and its looks right but its dosent.

@@user-bs2um7li8j And that's what's nice about science, you can say it's wrong and maybe be right since it's theoretical. But the simplest explanation is almost always correct. The more you have to make exceptions and special rules, the less likely you are to be right.

@@swivel_z1371 Actualy no. Its easy to modulate Portals in real life. Physic of portals founded of 4 dementional space. 3D univers lockete in 4D demention and if you make 2 holes and connect them outside 3D in 4D you get portal. So now lets go to 2D univers in 3D demention and repirt . Tacke paper fold it and make 2 holes 1 near edge and enother right at edge. Firt will be illustrait 2 portals located next to each other (1 on one side of the sheet, the other on the other). Second its how this 2 holes will act when cross each others.

Short, sweet, straight to the point. Also the BEST explanation of this question i've seen TO DATE.

@e Shut

number 1 is 100% confirmed, even a dumbass like me understood it

He's probably thinking with them

yea but thats because the portal is small

@@commandocat7675 Oh I see. One of the portal was smaller than the other, which was a different scenario.

Not crashing the universe is no fun though :(

Yeah superliminal is such a trippy game

Um… I thought this one out and what’s happening is you have a room that contains itself, so when you threw the room outside of itself it would’ve become an infinite amount of rooms in white space since there was nothing outside the room, or something like that. Hopefully Minute Physics makes a video on it, I would like to understand it more than just my drawings.

the portals would be pushed apart or get stuck with ur body. if appriote preasure is applied you would be squashed together (possibly die/expolode). If the portal is infinitly thin and you are next to the corners of the portal, you may be sliced however your own body would probably stop you from being sliced. edit: I get now that it'll be impossible to be sliced because there is no space within the portal. however you could still be crushed as long the portals move closer together while you're still stuck inside them. There is no need for high speeds for this to happen. simply applying enough force to move the portals while you are inside them are suffienct. I woudl think this force would be exactly the same as the force needed to crush you between two objects that are not portals

You would either climb through, or get stuck because you bumped into yourself or your portal and are forced to climb out. The portal wouldn't slice or crush you unless you went in at very high speeds and fell on yourself. The portal doesn't change shape, just location and so would you.

Might depend on the angles but I imagine you might try to reach your arm in and then get blocked by your own arm

Pain, that's what happens

I feel like you would just end up unable to fit through until the intersection was resolved due to your own body being in the way unless it was a very large portal. I could be wrong though.

Hello inception

Aperture Labs makes the impossible, possible.

like, dragon anatomy

@@alienhomicide mind. Blown

@SkeLLy The furnace?

oof

why is he dead?

@@Cornholio8787 just take a look at the visuals

@@Cornholio8787 he meant rip in a rhetorical sense, because the editor had to work so much

Dont worry, it was for the best. The editor was showing signs of intelligence and had to be placed into the emergency intelligence incinerator.

did not think id see mspa here

@@chronocases9752 our brains dont like infinites so we have no idea what would hypothetically happen if you created infinite recursion

@@pirilon78 thats not true. All of calculus is infinite recursion.

@@e4Bc4Qf3Qf7 i said we dont know what would happen. Theres a difference between numbers and reality

@@pirilon78 Demonstrably incorrect. If your numbers aren’t an expression of reality, you’re doing them wrong.

Quoting Dwayne Johnson from the movie Doom: I don’t do nano walls.

Portals as they exist in-game break the law of conservation of energy, so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for them to be developed.

@@WUZLE And breaks relativity too

@@pain16tdn45 How so?

Tbh if portals would exist like p2 this wouldnt work. As the portal wormhole is just relative distance. Blue and orange will always be a certain amount of units apart unless reopened at another position. Thats also why moving portals wouldnt work... idk about other fictional portals though so w/e lmao

What will happen if the blue portal is smaller than the orange one?

@@demonking5934 it cannot be. If so, they "break the rules", like how an object bigger than the smaller portal will behave if it passes through the bigger portal?

@@demonking5934 My guess is that the blue portal would become smaller as it's coming out of itself, if there were 2 portals one bigger and one smaller it would act like in the game superliminal where the object that enter the smaller portal would become bigger and bigger until it can't fit through the portal anymore and if the object enters the bigger portal it would get smaller and smaller until you can't physically see it anymore.

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Finally, something I understand in the comments

Okay yeah this seems accurate

@@Tacid_Krios yeah cause it's complete mumbo jumbo garbage 🤣

@@josephkerr5018 What is complete mumbo jumbo garbage?

@@josephkerr5018 It's the Dungeons and Dragons rule attached to some objects that involve demi-planes or inter-planar travel. Don't really care either way, but that's what their referencing.

lol so freaking true, well put into words!

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Not staff, students. It was an amazing school project.

Shooting a portal creation projectile through another portal isnt the problem here at all also everyone already knows that lol

I played that before. Shooting new Portals thru an existing Portal sounds like a cool idea at first, but you realize after a while it's basically cheating. For example if you just stand in front of an orange Portal looking thru it, you can shoot new blue Portals thru that until it reaches the entire end of the map, then just walk thru it once and you're done.

@@generaldirection5123 you'd have to design the puzzles differently, but it's not difficult to see how one could do so.

@@oldspicewhistle8191 i didnt know that already

A portal does not have any mass I guess

Do portals have momentum?

do portals have mass?? Well they don't move with the speed of light.... hmmm

portals are not made of matter thus they have no mass thus they have no momentum

Can you assign momentum to space itself? You can with radiation, but I don't know enough about general relativity to know whether one can assign momentum to a space wave, or gravitational wave, or a space topology thingy like a portal must be.

No, the portal only appears out of one place.

this is the question I need a professional physics answer to

it works, its just... yeah

a portal tunnel isint actually infinite, it's like pointing a camera towards it's feed where there's an infinite loop on the screen

Heck if this is how it is then irl it should be impossible to build portals at all.

I’m making a note here: huge success!

@@rpungello It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction

@@Asterism_Desmos Aperture Science

Portalception

@@ConfuSomu We do what we must because we can

How about: Out of the orange?

@@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am How about: Into the orange?

@@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn That's just: Out of the blue, with extra steps.

Out of the Blue sounds like a documentary of the making of Portal tbh

@@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am exactly.

Um... hi? Does your handle get you shadowbanned in some places too? Maybe even banned?

@@likebot. Haha yes, pleasure to meet you. I think I may have been shadowbanned on Reddit for suspected spamming (not by people but by actual bots, which is kind of ironic).

Be honest. You guys are just saying Shadow banned because you think it sounds cool, right?

@@MrQuinnlord no being shadow banned is different

@@insertafunnyname478 this guy gets it

So if you throw a smaller portal in a portal then it Infinitly comes out of itself?

Like portals don't actually EXIST. So yeah good luck explaining physics on imaginary objects.

@@katsu_xd_4823 How the hell would the same two ends of a portal be different sizes?

@@jd_kreeper2799 I'm just saying what if

@@katsu_xd_4823 THat makes no sense though, even in-game. How would one opening be smaller than the other?

Cave Johnson would probably say "Psssh the only paradoxes we have in Aperture Science are the ones we use to dispatch the bad AI. In our R&D department, we give you our quality assurance that the testing chambers we provide are either working or broken."

There an independent sequel (Portal Reloaded) that shoots a third "time" portal. It actually connects 2 different worlds, one of which is a future aged/destroyed version of the "present" test facility. You have to jump between times to solve puzzles. Paradoxes can happen but the game deals with them by erasing specific changes you've made in the "future" when you modify the "present" (i.e. you can bring a cube from the future-side to the present-side and get away with two versions of the same cube, but if you move a cube originally from the present its future version would vanish -whenever it is- and pop-up in the future-side at the place you left it in the past).

there's the thing of moving portals being weird (see youtu.be/watch?v=B19nlhbA7-E ) but that's pretty much the only other issue with portals.

There's also the second one (which you can watch at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zDAE9A_1NA4.html )

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Sniffy with the griddy?

Happy new year by the way!

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After i read Aperture Science the voice in my head switched to glados xD

@@unluckypanda5448 Your brain doing it's job.

For it to pass all the way through requires squeezing or infinite thinness. So its a paradox unless the portals defy physics

@@seeker296 I had the same thought in the last video actually, I assumed the edges were solid like in the games because you can stand in the portals on their edge, and because they have a thickness they'd be unable to fully pass thru each other at any angle, this does work if you consider the edges to be infinitely thin but if you work with the game logic then it's a little less possible, you still get the wacky portal protrusions tho

Also, by default the game only does 2 graphical recursions "for real". The 3rd onward are copy pasting from the previous video frame and definitely isn't designed to work with intersecting portals.

Glad it's not only me who immediately recalled that video

Video?

yeah and Elon Musk is my brother

@@UncontrolledxXx its not a difficult thing to do. Portal like engine existed since 2004. There are many youtube videos how to make portals in unreal too

@@duckmeat4674 he actually is Elon Musk's brother !!

It's a great artistic choice. They're opposites on the color wheel, making them complimentary. Complimentary colors almost always look good together and are known to attract attention.

I know, right?

He actually uses his account 😯

I saw a man that did earlier it on Unity engine that had almost 60k views. So it's probably not his idea.

Cool

I thought that mercury got you bro

Im guessing you're talking about portal 2 Portal 2 already runs pretty well But the infinite portal thing is 2d so it doesn create an infinite space It just makes you think there's one

portal has a flag which u can set to have moving portals. It's evident from the level where u disable the neurotoxin. Also there's a max reflection depth coded in and can be changed to a max of 64 if I remember.

Crowbcat did a video on that called "crushed between two portals"

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0TZd95BCKMY.html (link is separate to be safe)

@@spacebassist really I'm just happy that there's a link in a youtube comment and it isn't spam or a bot trying to fish clicks. Legit link to a legit video of getting crushed between 2 portals. Thank you.

I believe the word you're looking for is "newton"ian, as in Isaac Newton.

@@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy Don't be silly. It's "newt"onian because they're amphibious

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What happens if u pass trought a portal passing trought itself

Portals are about as likely as black holes. Why should portals be science fiction if we accept worm holes, super black holes, dark matter, quantum entanglement, etc?

Why? I don't see at all what would bring you to that conclusion

@@maker0824 Just some fun.

I am pretty sure a portal would never explode.

@@Emanuele_Polisena They said the same thing about exploding lemons and look how that turned out.

Noice!

fictional science lab invents portal gun, random youtube commentor uses portal gun to create duplicates of themselves... quick someone write it as a plot device for Portal 3

You probably wouldn't be able to do so : your body parts would collide together and not let you in

@@gawkthimm6030 it would be called portal printer (it prints you)

You would just fold yourself or tear yourself apart. But if you're just jumping in, you'd collide with yourself or the portal edge and fall away from the portals, no worse for wear. The gravity would make you puke though.

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