Pat the MID-Punk: 15 Years of Borderline Relevance 

I read every single one of these comments, I'm stuck at work and have that kind of time. So some things I'd like to point out after reading them all: 1. Yes I was aware about all the Jirard charity stuff while making this video. My point with bringing him up was pointing out how he was a peer of Pat but got way more successful because he had a far superior product (even though it's not my cup of tea). 2. Ok so I guess Video Game Years came out in 2012... it was still a dated format in 2012. Vh1's "I Love the 80's" was hot in like 2004, 8 years earlier. 3. Apparently Pat is also a re-seller. Multiple people have said he sells the stuff he finds at the flea-markets at conventions. 4. I'm aware Pat did a public service by pointing out the corrupt practices of WATA and the auction house being owned by the same people. With that being said it was still boring as fuck to listen to week in and week out. 5. It's true... I am just a jealous emo trying to bottom feed off of people more successful than me. 6. A channel called "Jenovi" has a better researched, less opinionated video about Pat that you can watch here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nwGlRJN8h8o.html, but if you like spicey hot takes, watch mine.... or watch both!

I remember pat telling everybody the amico was a con and to not put your money in, while every other retro youtuber was going all in

He's definitely more popular than The Completionist these days. ...I'll see myself out.

Thanks for granting Frank civilian status.

I remember when i pointed out Pat was wrong about something in the comment section, and his response was pointing out that i had less subscribers than him. :/

The Completionist reference doesn't age at all lol. His amico Christmas special last year was so good.

I hope Pat joins Rex Viper on stage. Then your destiny can finally be fulfilled.

I always found Pat and Ian's "chemistry" hilarious. Pat's trying hard to make some boring topic interesting, and Ian's sitting slouched down, sighing and rolling his eyes before giving some generic, dismissive, contrarian take every single time. Then Pat chuckles like it's a joke and not Ian's entire existence, attempts a joke and laughs at his own joke, while Ian remains scowling and not making any eye contact. That description might come off like I hate it, but it's legit way the hell more entertaining than, for example, the Cinemassacre Podcast where everyone just smiles and nods and agrees with whatever generic boomer take Bimmy comes out with

Man, I'm feeling pretty out of touch. My friends and I loved The Video Game Years when it came out. It was a ton of fun learning new stuff, and hearing the opinions of people I watched on RU-vid. Also, i believe it WAS on Amazon for a time. I also was really interested in the WATA games controversy and some of the other stuff you said nobody cared about. Video game preservation, and companies not manipulating the market for goods I enjoy matters to me. Karl Jobst's videos on the subject have millions of views. But I'm in that 40-50 year old range you mentioned and people like me and our interests probably don't matter to you all that much. I do agree Pat seems pretty self interested, and not very likeable. I did meet him in Milwaukee years ago and had a nice chat with him though. Anyways, thanks for reading my comment.

Pat is like an actor who should never be a lead character. The best thing by far he ever did was that NWC video with James and it made me think that Pat's career would have been so much better if he were a recurring sidekick or antagonistic type character on AVGN. Instead he had his own series with soft takes on old games and C-level humor at best with poor audio and video even for the time. That NWC video gave Pat a huge thrust of visibility in the retro game scene during a boom period for the collecting hobby. There is no other classic Punk video that people talk about as some sort of golden age of Pat The NES Punk. The only other thing that ever got his name out there was when he and his friend had some nerdy, gatekeeper Comic Book Guy rant on their podcast

It's incredible how even Pat got a bigger role in the AVGN Movie than Mike and Kyle.

I don’t trust any NES collector that doesn’t like Mega Man. Like wtf

Pat has a weekly Twitch stream. He spends 3 hours a week watching old commercials (which he finds for free on RU-vid) and lusting over women from the 70’s and 80’s. People pay to subscribe to him for this.

You did the Ian chair pose perfectly. Chefs kiss. Superb video.

To Pat’s credit, he was the first one who told us James was just acting and didn’t really like playing video games as he portrays. And was more interested in metal music. He mentioned this back in ‘16 on one of his CPU podcast.

It's funny that you brought AVGN into the picture because that is exactly how I found out about Pat. IF it wasn't for James, I would've never heard of Pat.

Pat's the kind of guy that if he had a pair of dice, he would roll a douche.

Ian looks like David Van Driessen, the hippy teacher from Beavis & Butt-head😂

I just watched a video yesterday where a guy did a reaction video in which Pat said "we're better than you". He actually said that.

0:48 does he know about Jirard lmaooooo

Also, does anyone else notice Pat slowly morphing into Perry Caravello?

Also pat was the first person to sound the alarm about the amico and wata with karl

Host guy: "I hate Pat. Everyone hates Pat. Pat sucks. Also I've watched and listened to hundreds of hours of Pat and spent time scripting, preparing, filming and editing a video specifically about Pat just to prove how much I hate him. Even though I think he's a narcissist and any narcissist would be thrilled that someone like me was so obsessed by him to pass sooo many hours scrutinising him, and will continue to watch and listen to everything he does just cos I hate him so much" He also doesn't know what a chip on your shoulder means

The thing I like about Pat is he is just some dude. He does take me back to early RU-vid, he does more than just blab into a camera but he's not overly polished or "marketable". He's doing his own thing. I've met him at cons a few times, and he was nice enough to chat with. How well people take to his personality seems to be more based on if you lived in the northeast or not (which I do). I think his worst trait is he is really bad at reading from a script, after listening to the podcast for so long it's jarring hearing him try to read a pre-written thing with how stiff and stilted his delivery is. If you find him entertaining fine, if you don't he's literally just some dude move on with your damn life and do something more productive.

The one point I take away is the last couple minutes where you talk about how he's living in his 40's surrounded by childhood relics. Dipping our toes into the nostalgic fountain from time to time is good, but ultimately happiness and life is much more than these past times. Simply fond memories now. Makes me ponder. Thank you!

I've watched a good number of Pat's NES punk videos years back after I saw his episode on AVGN. I honestly can not remember a single one of them except the episode he had a dominatrix whipping him around.

Ian always has this look on his face like he wants to skin Pat in his sleep and wear him as a meat suit

Pat is so mid that other RU-vidrs go out of their way to make videos about him. Makes sense.

Remembering when Pat called me quote "obtuse and cute" for criticizing his take on the Diablo Immortal situation before blocking me, with many people calling me irrelevant and wrong because he had more subs than me. Good times!

I made the mistake of selling some boxed SNES/N64 games to his co host Ian when I lived in San Diego. (needed rent money) I got a fraction of what they were worth which was expected, but he came off very stand offish and rude. Shortly after they ranted about how stupid Diablo fans were for being upset with the mobile game and I never watched their stupid ass podcast again.

I had just moved to San Diego 15 years ago. I’m a touring musician and tattoo artist. I was tattooing out of a shop in OB and the piercer and I had become good friends. He was into video games and so was I. I love retro games I told him so he assumed I knew all about the retro community of RU-vid. I was so busy with my music and tattooing I had never watched a RU-vid video in my life at that time. One day he invited his friend Pat to come visit the shop so he could introduce me. I was completely oblivious to who Pat was, and I noticed that Pat was offended that I never had heard of him. The shop I worked at was right next door to Luna games and met Ian also. Fast forward 8 years later I found RU-vid and fell in love with avgn it reminded me of being young and playing games. After awhile I remembered I had naturally met Ian and Pat. Small world.

I did like Flea Market Madness a lot. Definitely his best work that he put out.

Game Sack....is beyond reproach...I....love Joe...

that unsolved mysteries shirt is sick. I bet if I heard that theme today, I'd still get freaked out. The theme song/intro freaked me out more than the episode of the guy who could make it rain in his house

The N64 book Pat is "writing" is also controversial. He made the decision to have the games reviewed by a team by playing them via PC emulation. We're not ever talking Everdrives on original hardware which would be fine. We're talking via PC emulation. N64 games are notoriously hard to emulate. Even Nintendo doesn't do it right with the Switch online.

Pat had a big existential crisis on the podcast years back when he was reacting to somebody saying his output meant nothing, he was really angrily scrambling to come up with reasons why his channel has any value and exists, that was actually funny

Pat isn't "unliked", he is DISLIKED by most collectors and vendors.

Pat the CM Punk

I think Frank is a unique RU-vid guest in the game-osphere, and Pat/Ian had good takes about game preservation and the Atari/Amico stuff, but after a few years of listening, I had enough of their negativity. That said, if you show up on Pat's podcast, Josh, it'll be must-listen content. Great video

It's so weird when one content creator feels the need to crap on others in order to try to be relevant.

You're a little off on the graded games thing. There used to be this forum called NintendoAge which is where pretty much all video game collectors hung out before Facebook and all the other social media places existed. It was the only place to get info about the rarity of different games, variants, foreign games, etc. A lot of the people there hated him because he was one of the only guys calling out some of the more "prominent" collectors who were constantly scamming other collectors. The forum was controlled by the very people who later created WATA, who are now involved in a class action lawsuit for running a scam where they own both the grading company AND the auction house that evaluates them. Him calling out WATA is probably one of the only respectable things he's ever done. He's actually been very vocal from day one about how video games are NOT an investment, and how he's against people collecting them for monetary gain, so your statement about him being so interested because he wants to retire off his games or whatever is not really accurate. It's more about him getting the last laugh on the same people he used to argue with online 15-20 years ago (and rightfully so, trust me, I was on there too and those people are the biggest pieces of shit on the planet). Everything else you said was pretty much correct though. He really only has a "career" because he was on RU-vid before anyone else and he basically weaseled his way into Cinemassacre universe. He's mentioned before that he got some huge inheritance that he used to move out to San Diego and buy a condo, so he doesn't really even have to work (which made it even more annoying when he constantly complained about being "exhausted" from going to conventions). He isn't funny whatsoever and it's extreme cringe whenever he tries to be. Even listening to him talk on a podcast is annoying because it sounds like he has a mouthful of water or something. He's also widely known to be a total prick to his fans in person at conventions. I don't think I've ever read a single positive story about someone meeting him, it's always "I said Hi to him at a convention and he was an asshole".

Pat *radiates* needy only child energy

You're throwing lots of rocks inside your glass house.

Hell yea been waiting for this

Pat Country is hugely mid. This is not an understatement. Most low effort person on RU-vid pretty much. but has the biggest ego for no reason. 100 percent has a vested interest in covering Wata info.

Well said. Terms like "mid" or "mediocre" are really the best ways to describe Pat. He isn't the lolcow that James has become, but it's mostly because he isn't very interesting to begin with.

I actually loved the podcast. Their coverage of the amico and sealed game auctions was probably the best game journalism in recent memory.

I think Jeremy Parish's series are much more useful and entertaining than pretty much all those channels. Same with the technical stuff like retro game mechanics explained and displaced gamers. And I like the personality of Retro Bird, Shmup Junkie, Hungry Goriya, TechDweeb, and Big Ole Words better than that older rash of retro gamer youtubers.

If you ever decide to do a John Hancock or MetalJesusRocks video, I have a bunch of dirt on them that has since been deleted from youtube

Tommy and the Amico saved their podcast

Can you do a video on John Riggs, the "Immortal" John Hancock and the rest of the Metal Jesus crew and how they all shill for stupid "new" retro products without disclosing they are paid advertisements?

I met pat briefly at a convention. He acted like he was to cool to talk to me lol. Ian however was very nice. I hated it when they would talk about politics on the podcast it was so cringe. Pats best work was "Ask Frank" and early "flea market madness". Ian's "Tales from the game store" on the CUpodcast was also great. Pat's collection video exposes him as a hoarder, and is kind of a sad reality a guy single living alone pushing 50 surrounded by dusty boxes of games, and consoles. That he will probably never play.

The best thing of Pat is Frank. Frank could record himself talking about anything and enjoy it.

I understand music is your passion brother, but your videos tearing apart some of these corny RU-vidrs are brilliant and entertaining. I truthfully can care less about music, but I come on to watch all your drama dissecting videos. I absolutely love them. Do more man, many more!

This is incredibly spot on

Hes hilarious, he's a trendsetter, and he works with people who you used to idolize and now dedicated to your entire existence to ragging on.

I listened to every CUPodcast for the first few years.. then i realized Pat had no idea what he was talking about, especially when it came to modern gaming. Ian just got more and more miserable as time went on.. I assumed he stuck around because he made more money being on the show than being an assistant manager at a used video game shop.

NIce !!! Day off , new DWG video, Fucking A !!! . Saludos from Costa Rica

I watched this video a few weeks ago and forgot to comment. This pretty much sums up all I ever thought about the guy, since the day he came on the scene.

What a pleasant surprise ❤

Pat has said countless times that he doesn't agree with the prices of wata. if he only cared about the price of his games going up he wouldn't have covered that wata stuff and bashed them so extensively. come on now. you're grasping for straws here.

I enjoy Pat and Ian, and like putting their pod on in the background. Mid is probably not a terribe take, he's definitely not for everyone. Frank really is the breakout star of the channel, just for being the strange hippie boomer that he is. For me, being a more casual vintage gaming guy, it's an interesting view into a very strange world of people and what their personal piccadilos are.

Man, I need a cool set up like this guy

The worst thing about Pat to Me is that He feels Entitled to a Large Fanbase because He's been Putting out Videos for so long. I think the PS2 is one of the Best Systems ever made just because it was the Perfect intersection of Technology and the Market was at a Point where Games didn't cost so much to actually Make so we got some really interesting Games out of it. Ian told a Story that I wanted to Hear the end of but He Refused to actually Finished the Story. it was Called the Ranch Dressing Story. it was a Story about how Someone was obsessed with Ian and made an RPG Maker Game about him and the one time He went over to His House he found a Packet of Ranch Dressing in this Dude's Bathroom.

Holy shit. I never thought I’d see someone talk about Pat the NES punk videos. I was into their content for a little bit a few years back, he had some okay ideas. Making a storyline out of looking for the NWC was amusing but after that…eh

The only episode I liked from Pat the NES Punk, is the “Alissa Dragoon” and if you know, you know 😏

I just found your channel from your old Rex Viper reaction video… as someone who has interacted with Pat directly… buddy, you ain’t lying.😂 Love your stuff

Pat's career has been fair from a collector's standpoint. His goofy content comes 2nd to his collection and knowledge.

I met him once and he was unpleasant at best. The retro game community is full of people like him. I still like playing old games but I just share it with my friends and have a library for that purpose.

I had high hopes for Pat after the early avgn episodes. The avgn rub meant a lot back then. I could not even finish that ROB the robot video and wasn’t going to try anymore. I did watch a few of their podcasts though. Mildly entertaining. Your channel is much better for what it’s worth lol

“And then they butchered my corn hole.” Pat the NES Punk, Intellivision Amico Unboxing DECEPTION - March 30, 2022. Time stamp - 18:18

I’ve listened to his podcast for the past 5 years or so. You are 100% correct about he and Ian’s personalities. His video game videos are so bad. I don’t know how they get views. I do enjoy flea market madness.

Pat had the audacity to say that avgn had little impact on his sucksess

I keep hearing stories from different people of NES Pat almost getting kicked out of retro gaming cons because security and guests keep thinking he was a homeless man who sneaked in. If half of those stories are true. It is pretty sad. This would never happen with an irate gamer. People outside of gaming RU-vid at least know he exists. I honestly blame Ian for destroying Pat's podcast and channel.

Well Pat's doing better than Jirard now lol

I was listening sometimes the podcast stuff and it was okayish but mostly I don't care about Pat🤔 Good Video Man😃

Dude. Where did you get that Unsolved Mysteries shirt? I need that in my life!

I just stumbled on your channel and have a lot to say: 1. I love Unsolved Mysteries too. As well, I have the damn vinyl. Hell yeah to you on that. 2. I like that you arent afraid to give your opinion. A lot of content seems very veiled, due to youtube diplomacy, but you dont seem to mind that shit. I think that's great. 3. I think your filming method could use some improvement. It's pretty obvious that you're reading off your script next to the camera and it doesn't help that you sigh and rush your way through it. Maybe if you just wrote down key points and then waxxed a bit more in a sincere manner? Idk. 4. I agree that Pat is mid. At one point, I streamed through his entire nes punk series as muzak while I did other shit. I've also occasionally listened to/watched the CUpodcast. He's very meh overall, but sometimes that's what can be endearing to people. It's kind of comforting. That being said, yeah, his jokes are bad, he's weird in very weird ways, and insert everything about how he presents himself and sounds. He also comes off as a bit arrogant. 5. Ya think maybe making this kind of content is a bit... idk... fucking mean? I mean, what is the point of attempting to psychoanalyze someone and put them down, when they haven't really done anything egregious? Dude could be dealing with some terrible shit and then he's gotta see someone go online and talk about how he's worthless and sucks? What does this accomplish? Seriously, I mean it. What does this do? I just dont get why we all gotta treat each other like this. 7. Not everything has to be a generational generalization. Shit is so overdone. "Der gen z be like dis. Bruh boomers be like dat. Duh millimeowls!" Chill ya'll. Everyone is fucking different. 8. Not trying to be an ass. I rarely comment on videos. But this struck a chord with me. I hope you find some happiness today and share it with someone else.

Am I the only one who thought Pat was on something a few years ago? There was a period on the podcast where he always looked crazed, was constantly moving his jaws and grinding his teeth, etc. He misunderstood everything Ian said and they were constantly arguing because of it. It was really weird and hard to watch, but he seems to have put whatever it was behind him and acts much more normal now.

For someone that is not interested in retro physical media maybe the WATA topic is boring but for everyone else is really interesting as their practices affect retro gaming prices.

What is that Pixel Thingie in the background, i want that :D

So I'm not the only one that thinks his presentation and humor is more vanilla than store-brand ice cream. You can have the best topics in the world, but you gotta retain a person's interest better than him.

He had some good moments with Flea Market Madness and hanging out with Frank. That was pretty much my favourite content from him because Pat who was always trying too hard by not trying at all. His skits were cringe, but I enjoyed some of his CUPodcast in the early years. When they actually cared about resellers. Pat would have to try to get anything out of Ian, and I never understood why he didn't get someone else in there. I dropped out during the Diablo fiasco, checked in during the Intellivision disaster, and then Wata for one of the hundredth times haha. The SNES version looked sweet, but they were way too expensive for what they are. I also remember Gaming Historian trashing them and decided against the SNES version.

I love these lmao. I used to sorta like Pat but at the same time it was super easy to lose my attention watching his stuff. Perhaps you can do Irate Gamer sometime. Just something to consider.

Decent would be a compliment to Pat

Uh oh. 😂 I like Pat. Making a lot of hot takes recently lol

You always put out great stuff! 👍🏻

Good video. I use to listen to Pat's podcast 10 years ago! It's crazy how 10 years has gone by that fast! What's funny is that I recently thought about these guys and wondered what happened to them and what do you know, you popped up ahahaha

Awaiting Pat's appearance in the comments or a mention on the now very infrequent CUPodcast...

Pat seems to have an accent similar to James so I always figured that was related somehow to his cameo, like he was closer by or something, I guess his game collection is a better explanation.

man, you're analysis is fucking spot on as usual. Love your stuff man.

Great video and series. A bigger youtuber Pat has some kind of feud is Rich from ReviewtechUSA, which was also entertaining and a result of the Amico drama. I remember when Ian tried to explain the Playstation Controller to Pat and was really annoyed 😅

Where did ya get the led light thing next to your head

The only thing i know about Pat is that one obnoxious AVGN video he was in. Dude just gave off weird vibes so never went looking for more of his stuff. I had no idea he warranted any kind of retrospective but i enjoyed the Bimmy/Rex Viper episodes so here we go!

Well you're wrong about the humor part. His early NES punk stuff was the funniest of all the 2000's game reviews IMO.

I once left a comment on his Action 52 episode. He swapped out NES consoles because one of them couldn't get past the lockout chip. I told him the easiest way to get around this. It's a stupid easy mod that anyone can do. You just cut the fourth pin on the Nintendo chip, and you can now play anything. He wrote me an essay on how the lockout chip is required for certain games, and whatnot, but it was clear to me that he's a little more knowledgable about games NOT consoles. The NES 101 (Top Loader) doesn't have the lockout chip and can literally play any NES game in existence. So there goes that argument.

Afrogamerdudes videos on pat were amazing lol miss afro

You're always very funny. I love this channel.

Pat and his podcast cohost banned me and a lot of other viewers commenting on their channel when they brought up a terrible list of worst NES games written by the same guy who dropped & covered Russia-Gate (they explicitly brought up Russia-Gate, not people in his comments), and people in the comments were questioning that writer's (Seth Abramson) integrity and questioning why they were bringing up politics.

Pat and Ian sound like a miserable couple. They constantly guilt each other like a mom and daughter who hate each other.