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Path of Exile: Timeless Jewels Explained 

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Really min-maxing these things is gonna be a pain.
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@alexpetrovich85
@alexpetrovich85 5 лет назад
The Spiritual Aid notable isn't too far to capitalize on that 160% damage increase.
@rob679
@rob679 5 лет назад
They are so unpredictable so they nearly force people to experimentate with their own builds. Neat.
@DKP821
@DKP821 5 лет назад
That is 160% possible generic damage, this is insane.
@Voreto
@Voreto 5 лет назад
HoA Jugg would fucking love that jewel
@asmosisyup2557
@asmosisyup2557 5 лет назад
That's almost more total minion damage than a necromancer spec'd full into minions gets from their entire tree inc ascendancy
@DKP821
@DKP821 5 лет назад
@@asmosisyup2557 It gives almost as much damage as rathpith globe gives to specters.
@MrHeyhomes
@MrHeyhomes 5 лет назад
Rather than using divines I have been sniping the Vaal version for 12c at a loss just for science, first league I've felt I could do that without feeling bad about my wealth. Good that, good jewels, good video let's hope others but and experiment more.
@Datharass
@Datharass 5 лет назад
Only like 600 people will get that far... it's okay isn't it?
@TarkeCat
@TarkeCat 5 лет назад
Proud of you video making man.
@wolfgangsf9397
@wolfgangsf9397 5 лет назад
As always stellar content. I only wish you would do more youtube videos :). You explain complex stuff really fluently.
@pickledbeaker5916
@pickledbeaker5916 5 лет назад
I play endurance Jugg HOA build. I MUST have this jewel! I'll give u everything I own and don't, including the wife, kids and the cat!
@asmosisyup2557
@asmosisyup2557 5 лет назад
Sorry, your cat already made a deal trading you and your family for the jewel.
@Belodri
@Belodri 5 лет назад
@@asmosisyup2557 Yea sorry for that. Greetings, your cat.
@skychaos87
@skychaos87 5 лет назад
in the world of cats, you are its pet.
@bibibabibu1
@bibibabibu1 5 лет назад
Jesus. GGG's motto seems to revolve around RNG and spreadsheet fuckery every league.
@innerg_92
@innerg_92 5 лет назад
I think its more meant to be, grab shit have fun with it. go nuts. but yall took that last part a little too seriously. haha
@aclark5663
@aclark5663 5 лет назад
I still dont know what's going on
@RicardoMenson
@RicardoMenson 5 лет назад
GG, GGG random uniques with no way of telling if they are good or not is a great idea(especially since they have potential to be gamebreakingly powerful)!
@chicomanara
@chicomanara 5 лет назад
I really don't like this design. Different random outcomes based on a range, really? If they would stick with names ans factions, fine. But that is just ridiculous.
@MyEconomics101
@MyEconomics101 5 лет назад
tl;dw It's cheaper and easier to build a character around a Timeless Legion Jewel from the start (2nd chard), than it is to find one (Divine One) for your lvl 95 character.
@koboldprime2257
@koboldprime2257 Год назад
As a new player this has to be THE most stupid mechanic i've stumbled into. No thanks.
@Byssbod
@Byssbod 5 лет назад
One divine orb "Oh look, I just crafted something really neat" This is so much better than synthesis
@iSammax
@iSammax 5 лет назад
no, this is not better than synthesis at all, are you kidding? this is PUREST rng, and even if you get something good you will have SO much trouble selling it, if you're not a public figure
@tamarap13
@tamarap13 5 лет назад
@@iSammax Maybe you could use it yourself.
@iSammax
@iSammax 5 лет назад
@@tamarap13 maybe, maybe not, who knows? all I'm saying is - synthesis crafting sucked a little bit, but the end result was clearly defined and transparent, you could trade crafted items and build around items you don't have yet
@chrisn1292
@chrisn1292 5 лет назад
@@iSammax It's pure rng for the elegant hubris jewels sure as it completely transforms notables, however for the other jewels (bar one) it's not as rng as it only adds extra stats to passives you already have. Still rng ofc however with every divine you use to reroll you will get at least something useful from your gem.
@InfoRanker
@InfoRanker Месяц назад
This is why people hate poe
@MultiManLol
@MultiManLol 5 лет назад
*Video starts* "Good evening, it's good to see you everyone, my name is Octavian" Me: Damn, he's got such a sexy voice Guess I'm gay now, huh?
@saphyresdarkaine
@saphyresdarkaine 5 лет назад
Yes sir
@paveljanik9970
@paveljanik9970 5 лет назад
let´s play path of excell spredsheet mining database.
@MultiGeorge101
@MultiGeorge101 5 лет назад
I have been playing bladestorm berserker since leaguestart and only have 50 splinters of karui as my highest
@sandualexandru3139
@sandualexandru3139 5 лет назад
Then the problem is your way of playing:))
@thealchemist3575
@thealchemist3575 5 лет назад
There is simply no way this is random...let's hack POE's code and let's get on with it :))...Random is never random
@fraxesz1598
@fraxesz1598 5 лет назад
Your video is so good except the time your cursor stay on the note is too short. Please let your cursor stay just 1 second longer that will be much easier for us to pause and have a look. Many ppl haven’t seen this stuff and need to pause.
@alexandersmith9207
@alexandersmith9207 5 лет назад
Can you make a video describing what all 5 jewels do so to speak, similar to how you went into depth into the 2 you did today.
@wygiwyg
@wygiwyg 5 лет назад
So “higher number” doesn’t mean it’s a better jewel?
@robertglade5799
@robertglade5799 5 лет назад
nope
@GrimMeowning
@GrimMeowning 5 лет назад
Number is just random modifier.
@rainbownaja
@rainbownaja 5 лет назад
@@GrimMeowning what about the name chitus cadiro and victario
@cooperpippig7508
@cooperpippig7508 5 лет назад
@@rainbownaja did you try watching the video?
@jamesatkinson8744
@jamesatkinson8744 5 лет назад
@@rainbownaja That's just for Keystones. Chitus will turn a Keystone into Supreme Ego, Victario for Supreme Grandstanding and Cadiro for Supreme Decadence.
@Greenjow
@Greenjow 5 лет назад
I was like "WTF, this gear complexity is getting out of hand" when they introduced Shaper and Elder bases. Now I'm fucking speechless:D
@Aliosar22
@Aliosar22 5 лет назад
I haven't watched your videos for so long that I forgot how soothing your voice is. You make ASMR videos without even trying.
@Colruth
@Colruth 5 лет назад
Ive been holding on to mine like a crazy person..instead of selling. The fact that most people dont know how they work tends to inflate the economy as they are dumped out for currency. The interesting part though is even those who knows how they work can only check the areas where they have slots available, unless they either burn regrets for science, or have a scion character that just ggoes around grabbing every socket for the sake of checking jewels. My point is, even if it is total garbage for the sockets you have available, it may be a stupid strong jewel somewhere else. So why sell them for pocket change you can farm in 1-2 maps, instead of stashing them to try on another character that will be somewhere else on the tree. At the same time, if you find a GG setup, good luck selling it at a higher price for it, since no one will know it is a GG setup, or where it is on the tree, until they buy it.
@antonproton805
@antonproton805 4 года назад
If you are looking for a Minion damage Elegant Hubris just check the 122700 commisioned to Victario. It gives 320 percent increased minion damage in the jewel spot on top of the Witch location
@antonproton805
@antonproton805 4 года назад
If you are looking for a Minion damage Elegant Hubris just check the 122700 commisioned to Victario. It gives 320 percent increased minion damage in the jewel spot on top of the Witch location
@thegodwarsable
@thegodwarsable 2 года назад
I still don't get it. I'm looking for the 80% physical damage for my character. But I just don't understand these jewels.
@weycool4681
@weycool4681 2 года назад
I honestly think the Timeless jewels are unnecessarily complicated. I have played this game for 4-5 seasons and I have yet to understand Timeless. For one, I am not going to shop for a jewel if I don't know exactly what it does and it seems they are very random with the way they change the nodes.
@dervakommtvonhinten517
@dervakommtvonhinten517 3 года назад
im looking to get some specific eternal notables. but i have no way how to go about it. also, the notables i get with my timeless jewel dont get changed. they just get something added. same with the travel nodes :O
@grit1
@grit1 3 года назад
This seems like the most hyper-specific randomized mechanic in POE that makes me almost vomit just thinking about it
@wolvie90
@wolvie90 5 лет назад
So the only thing you can do is buy one with the faction corresponding to the keystone you want and then throw divines at it until it turns into something good.
@asmosisyup2557
@asmosisyup2557 5 лет назад
nope. because the name also gets rerolled when divining. It's basically chaos spamming an elder item, but for your passive tree.
@wolvie90
@wolvie90 5 лет назад
@@asmosisyup2557 That's what I mean. You buy the jewel that can roll the keystone you want, then continue to divine until you get it with a good notable roll.
@KrzysiuNet
@KrzysiuNet 5 лет назад
You stole my heart with this video. Reported. But seriously, I'm so glad I found your chan. Very informative and calm.
@razvandumitru6193
@razvandumitru6193 5 лет назад
These are designed to keep the players in the league after they clear out the game content in the first 2 weeks
@nikolygtx8848
@nikolygtx8848 4 года назад
Don't explain us pls they over complicated game and make end game much harder, its time we go seek another games
@romanp3061
@romanp3061 2 года назад
blablabla explained only 2 types of jewels, nothing special just info for beginners
@wej0w
@wej0w Год назад
thanks I still dont graps everything of it but makes a bit sense, it has for sure one of the most useless modifier description.
@meltdown4126
@meltdown4126 5 лет назад
And here I thought it couldnt get more obscured and spreadsheety than Synthesis...
@davidkelly132
@davidkelly132 5 лет назад
That minion damage jewel with Scourge claws is 160% melee dmg
@angelic8632002
@angelic8632002 5 лет назад
You dont need the claw any more. That effect is on the passive tree close to the Templar start
@epicwarding
@epicwarding 4 года назад
i only want A jewel what gives ES, or Regeneration or ES regeneration. any like that in the game? i dont care for damage
@vultureTX001
@vultureTX001 3 года назад
Thanks I have the one and now I WON'T divine it till I get another one with the same name!
@SkritchB
@SkritchB 4 года назад
funny, the now "easy" to work with jewel is the most expensive
@racketship3618
@racketship3618 5 лет назад
These seem cool, but what in the fuck were they thinking with the rolls on these?!
@HoangNguyen-kt6nn
@HoangNguyen-kt6nn 4 года назад
hello, i want to know, 96000 coins & 96999 are different ?
@AMURF696
@AMURF696 13 дней назад
This game is too damn complicated
@tavlaughlin9904
@tavlaughlin9904 5 лет назад
More price check videos would be amazing! Even one a league
@Datharass
@Datharass 5 лет назад
Everyone's league ender is going to be some odd ass scion.
@xWhackoJacko
@xWhackoJacko 5 лет назад
thanks man, that cleared things up quite a bit :D
@lendial
@lendial 5 лет назад
this entire mechanic is a way to raise the value of divine orbs
@FPSMARRECO
@FPSMARRECO 5 лет назад
These jewels are crazy, but who at GGG thought that 2000-160000 range for completely different outcomes would be a great idea? wtf
@trusty990
@trusty990 5 лет назад
you are not supposed to divine for desired results, just gamble your money away and see what it does! pretty fun
@svnhddbst8968
@svnhddbst8968 5 лет назад
depends on how it works, there might be groupings that mean that it's effectively only like, 30 different outcomes, and then a slight change to how strong it gets. like 2500 might be in teh same group as 16000, but one gets higher numbers, or something.
@steezy3294
@steezy3294 5 лет назад
Outcomes are not completely different, comunity just haven't figured out how seed number exactly affects notables yet.
@fg-zb2th
@fg-zb2th 5 лет назад
Your jewel affects 2 Keystones. Do you get 2 different transformed Keystones from that?
@wygiwyg
@wygiwyg 5 лет назад
f g no
@robertglade5799
@robertglade5799 5 лет назад
that would depend on the seed number and and name on your jewel
@fg-zb2th
@fg-zb2th 5 лет назад
yea i get it now - Keystone depends on the Person-Modifier - so only 1 keystone
@epicwarding
@epicwarding 4 года назад
what base and what name do i need if i want es or life regen or es regen?
@tomroohan
@tomroohan 5 лет назад
so the number is like a seed for the RNG? that is insane. It's like a RNG for an RNG for and RNG.
@ino145
@ino145 4 года назад
I'm playing a 88 Slayer Cyclone. Would you say it's worth using 10c to try and buy 1? (Im kinda new, been playing almost 3 weeks.) Also, can't find upgrades still at my gear from long time ago. :(
@cerisida
@cerisida 4 года назад
I have a question, that I couldn't find an answer to it. I got Militant Faith with Dominus as a High Templar, it gives 3% to spell damage per power charge, so the question is can I get 6% per power charge for two keystones? or timeless jewels restricts having keystones to one only? that when I got two keystones on my tree my damage didn't change.
@KingJerbear
@KingJerbear 5 лет назад
Thanks! This was much more clear than your short little bit on Baeclast, but I understand you didn't want to get too in depth without having the visuals to show everyone.
@samwood1799
@samwood1799 5 лет назад
Mine offers 320% inc melee damage (if you take the spiritual aid node) on top of that it offers 15% chance to gain power charge on hit and 10% more damage frenzy + endurance charges and 50% inc damage with bleed was fun to mess around with and I was melting a lot of bosses problem was I lost like 2.5k life.
@antonproton805
@antonproton805 4 года назад
If you are looking for a Minion damage Elegant Hubris just check the 122700 commisioned to Victario. It gives 320 percent increased minion damage in the jewel spot on top of the Witch location
@ThisNameIsBanned
@ThisNameIsBanned 5 лет назад
They should make a new character class that has the entire passive skill tree always corrupted in a random seed.
@Xeratas
@Xeratas 5 лет назад
that would make people create characters over and over again until they hit something f*cking broken. Way to much RNG in this. But could be fun for some Private (void) or temp (void) league.
@TimoRutanen
@TimoRutanen 5 лет назад
Maybe the whole tree transforms every week with (some) random nods. Some weeks you can play, other weeks you can't?
@impact6126
@impact6126 5 лет назад
holy shit theres so many outcomes
@nebucadneza1914
@nebucadneza1914 5 лет назад
Easy money as a streamer with reputation. Since there is no way to trade those without beeing scammed, you need middlemans that does the trades for a 5% cut
@korenn9381
@korenn9381 5 лет назад
Great video but could really have used covering the remaining 2 jewels besides karui, empire and maraketh
@Taki995
@Taki995 4 года назад
Any Yorkshire tea?
@iktpq2676
@iktpq2676 5 лет назад
the outro is so beautiful I shed a tear
@gilney.mathias
@gilney.mathias 5 лет назад
GGG is just crazy...
@Braxtonkai
@Braxtonkai 5 лет назад
Thanks for the video, while I haven't had any drop for me I have been rather curious to how they work. Ironically that jewel you rolled would be perfect for my current build haha.
@tkashygamer5269
@tkashygamer5269 5 лет назад
i just had same one with 2 80 mele physcal damge and 40 crit multi can some one price it
@jackgrotelueschen5477
@jackgrotelueschen5477 5 лет назад
brutal restraint jewels are now 90 c can you do another video about them as well
@baconbankai
@baconbankai 4 года назад
is there still no way of determining what the notables are before trading?
@greezly2
@greezly2 5 лет назад
I wonder what is treshold of counting. 1000 range? 100 ? 500?
@mgtow346
@mgtow346 5 лет назад
Hello, can l buy your Chitus minion jewel for 1ex?
@asmosisyup2557
@asmosisyup2557 5 лет назад
The thing is, how do you sell the jewel? you'd have to post screenshots in the trade forums (do they even exist still?) with a link to your item on the trade site. That's the most straightforward "not-relying-on-trust" system i can see for selling these jewels. i would @#$% love that jewel on my minion build. It also raises a point that if your going to use timeless jewels, you should probably have a scion that has all jewel slots unlocked just to see what they do, incase your about to roll over an absolutely godly jewel (on the other side of the tree).
@GrimMeowning
@GrimMeowning 5 лет назад
At first they need to fix auction at all :D But ye, valid points.
@asmosisyup2557
@asmosisyup2557 5 лет назад
Actually screenshots wont work, since you can't capture the jewel ## and the notables in the same screenshot (hence scamming). You would literally need to post a youtube clip *like this* to prove that ## applies those notables.
@dive_bomb3r
@dive_bomb3r 5 лет назад
I don't think they expect you to trade them. You're supposed to see something incredible and make a build around that yourself. To trade you pretty much have to use a reliable middle man and holy shit, do I not envy you if you find yourself in that position.
@seana3918
@seana3918 5 лет назад
You hit the double minion node and I gasped lol. Solid jewel there.
@forsmanos
@forsmanos 5 лет назад
You can tell what the jewel does if you know the jewels seed in advance.
@spaycen
@spaycen 2 года назад
Thank you
@Xerdoz
@Xerdoz 5 лет назад
Another thing they added of which I have no chance of ever getting.
@Cymricus
@Cymricus 5 лет назад
the minion damage is good but it sucks the keystone would be wasted on a pet build bc it wouldnt affect your pets? or would it?
@zachrich7359
@zachrich7359 5 лет назад
Depends on the build, my pet build wouldn't care about losing the one keystone but could really benefit from an additional 160% extra minion damage. And as many bosses die in about 30 secs as it is, they might as well not even exist with the 160% damage boost. Which with my build means roughly 400% minimum extra damage with attacks every second, which means absolutely absurd dps. And that is before the instant army that is Vaal Summon Skeletons (Just add water)
@RadiantSolarWeasel
@RadiantSolarWeasel 5 лет назад
Note: the Karui jewel adds +2str to every travel node and +4str to *every other minor node,* so socketing one in any densely-packed area of your build will get you a bunch of life & increased melee phys as well as whatever notable bonuses the seed gives you.
@dive_bomb3r
@dive_bomb3r 5 лет назад
Yes, but you could, you know, put an actual good jewel in there and probably gain a bunch more. It has to hit multiple good things in notables to be worth it, IMO.
@Rurush7
@Rurush7 5 лет назад
Thanks
@corgimeister7283
@corgimeister7283 5 лет назад
I almost thought that octavian is also engineering eternity.
@Skoshtwo
@Skoshtwo 5 лет назад
Nice, more ultra RNG. Good one Diablo 3.
@tagger_
@tagger_ 5 лет назад
I've been searching like mad, but cant seem to even find info on how one would get any of these jewels.. The wiki just says you get one by corrupting 5 and vendoring them - but how does one even get the first five o.O That bit of info on the wiki, is insanely far from helpful. Anyone care to shed some light on this? Is it just random drops from the timeless encounter (the map/emblem) ?
@kevinleugan6037
@kevinleugan6037 5 лет назад
As mentioned briefly on the POE website under the Legion info and in more depths in ZiggyD's introduction video as well as the BaeCast followups, these jewels are random dropped by the Legion generals. Normal Legion encounters drop splinters which can be crafted into a "breachstone" with 100 splinters. You put these stones in the map receptacle for encounters that have only Legion mobs. These encounters also guaranteed encounter with generals. You can encounter generals in normal Legion encounters too and they can drop the jewels as well, but apparently at a much lower rate.
@tagger_
@tagger_ 5 лет назад
@@kevinleugan6037 Thanks for the info in regards to the jewels. I was aware of how to get splinters/emblems, as I've run a fair bit of those emblem fights already (10-15 3/4/5-way fights, mixed), at the time of writing my initial comment) - must just have been really unlucky and not gotten any jewel drop.
@cidsapient7154
@cidsapient7154 5 лет назад
damn with this u can customize shit like crazy might need to start a new toon
@user-et3xn2jm1u
@user-et3xn2jm1u 5 лет назад
Nice video, I hope we figure out how the seeds work eventually.
@NOmki
@NOmki 5 лет назад
I assume you cant copy the jewel and paste it into pob and see what it would do?
@sandualexandru3139
@sandualexandru3139 5 лет назад
I was thinking the same but I'm not sure if pob received an update for every jewel's effect..
@johannmarais7573
@johannmarais7573 5 лет назад
What's the difference between melee damage and global physical damage? Which one would benefit a cyclone build more?
@ozymandias8523
@ozymandias8523 5 лет назад
There are skills that are physical and not melee.
@johannmarais7573
@johannmarais7573 5 лет назад
@@ozymandias8523 but melee do physical damage or dont they?
@766Bandit
@766Bandit 4 года назад
This was really helpful, thanks!
@Xeratas
@Xeratas 5 лет назад
Do this jewels drop in 2 way battles? Or only in 4-way or 5?
@Octavian0
@Octavian0 5 лет назад
More likely the more bosses you kill.
@soldatsie5
@soldatsie5 5 лет назад
what skill is bound to his right click???
@stefanomaggio5109
@stefanomaggio5109 5 лет назад
Karui can be divined for different effects?
@leonardodeoliveiracabralba1766
I believe the notables are boolean. You either have it or not, so the double +80% minion damage is not possible. It will only count as +80%, not +160%. Please check this information. I remember reading something around those lines from Mark a little while ago on reddit.
@Octavian0
@Octavian0 5 лет назад
Swapped a jewel with only a single 80% node in for the one with 2 on a tree with spritual aid, and tooltip damage was affected by the loss of 80% minion damage. Seems to work fine.
@bersercker
@bersercker 5 лет назад
Keystones are the ones that interact that way.
@steezy3294
@steezy3294 5 лет назад
You confuse notables and keystones. We already have a lot of simillar notables like +30 dexterity/strength/intelligence and they stack of course.
@dosenkeks5599
@dosenkeks5599 5 лет назад
@@steezy3294 well, the +30 dex/str/int notables are all named differently. i.E. Might and Alacrity both give + 30 Strength. but yes the only thing that is unstackable are keystones
@illrated2009
@illrated2009 5 лет назад
That minion chitus: make a dw poets pen necromancer. The pet to player damage scaling is neat.
@ManaMastery
@ManaMastery 5 лет назад
Or just use the scourge claw and get that minion damage working for yourself
@illrated2009
@illrated2009 5 лет назад
@@ManaMastery you don't need the claw, it's in the tree now. Far left minion major node.
@Lancer78x
@Lancer78x 5 лет назад
OmG are you Bill Nye the science guy?
@Bartoc1988
@Bartoc1988 5 лет назад
Thank you for the explanation :3
@AtlantisArch
@AtlantisArch 5 лет назад
The same conclusions I came with.
@albertoalonso6104
@albertoalonso6104 5 лет назад
omg i want these jewels again
@Themoralofthestory.
@Themoralofthestory. 5 лет назад
This explains alot thanks
@RobertSela
@RobertSela 5 лет назад
Really helpful thank you
@josearmandoramirezflores3676
@josearmandoramirezflores3676 5 лет назад
The result Random.
@mazok89
@mazok89 5 лет назад
where you can get them??
@Muftaay
@Muftaay 5 лет назад
160% minion damage!?
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