Marissa’s mother calling her daughter a B**** is SICK! Her old behind with a tongue ring needs to heal and find true happiness. She comes off as unhappy. Yes, I get you love your daughter, but please simmer down.
Ramses and Marissa are so aligned on the small things and in a bubble without real life considerations, but have major disagreements about FUNDAMENTAL things. They are a perfect summer fling for each other, but will be in trouble for sure if they get married.
Ramses is performative. He really rubbed me the wrong way with how he talked her into a corner about birth control. He made it her problem that he doesn’t like condoms. Gross.
Unpopular opinion- I can't stand Ramses...he is all leftist/feminist blah blah, until he had to put on a rubber. WTF? Maybe I'm old enough that I remember a time where HIV being a death sentence, but there are many nasty STD's out there. All these young women having sex without a condom is giving ME a rash. No way would I agree to that after such a short time. Have all the fun but be safe! Risking a baby or an illness just for a bit of fun? I don't get it. The only couple I have hopes for is Tayler and Garret. All the other should say no.
I'm glad to see someone say this! It was so frustrating to hear him specifically say that, it's giving he's only progressive/lefty whatever he is about the things that benefit or impact him...
@@QManagerin his future mother in law clocked him a few times .. the way he made it seem like he left his wife for his wife's own benefit, the rubber situation was the nail in the coffin for me to realize he was a little fake
Hannah is right about Nick living with his parents at 28, he deserves to be shamed and he can’t use the economy as an excuse, he could share a flat with one of his friends, he doesn’t even pay his own bills, sorry but Nick is also a red flag.
Tyler looked in Ashley’s father’s eyes and shook his hand like he was a stand up man. All along he abandoned 3 children and allegedly owes $30K in back child support. People keep saying the Producers didn’t do a good background check. It’s a tv show and they want ratings. Of course they knew about the children! Perhaps they encouraged him to remove the photos of the children from IG.
I don’t think producers knew. I think it undermines the program and will make genuine people question applying. Going on the show requires people taking a chance but if you think people are now liars and cheats, that’s different from thinking your partner is just not compatible.
I can’t believe that like it’s one thing to be a sperm donor but basically to be a father of these kids and honestly, I feel like the meeting with Ashley’s dad did not go that well. He didn’t really seem as confident as I thought I would be or as well spoken as I assumed.
Calling the daughter that you raised a B is absolutely disgusting. It’s not only what you said it’s also how you say it. She is absolutely rude, mean and disrespectful. Marissa said it best, she needs therapy. Imagining if Ramses father was carrying on this way, speaking like this to Marissa. The viewers would be in a uproar! No one has the right to be so nasty, for starters to a stranger, second to their child’s potential husband.
Me and my mom will joke like that but my mother would NVER be so rude to a man I’m dating, especially on the first meet. Nor would she call me a B in front of strangers like that. Between her and I is one thing, to the world she’ll defend e to the end of the earth loll
I thought so too… it was almost as if she was BITTER he daughter was happy. She wasn’t impressed because she’s like yeah I’m not taking this seriously it’s gonna and and when it does I wanna make sure her money is intact. Very sour and bitter lady, life was t nice to her and did I catch that all her siblings have different fathers? Ok… there it is.
The one interesting thing about Hannah is that she can be so charming when meeting people like Nick's parents. She may have learned that from her parents who may have also been able to be so charming when meeting Nick on camera, but may not always be as charming at home with no cameras.
I feel like her parents are like that in real life I think that’s why she turned out the way she is because her parents are too easy-going and didn’t teach her discipline
Nick has literally been talking about how he cooks, how he will cook blah blah blah but can’t even boil water for pasta is INSANE! Also looking for pasta in the fridge???? Get this man outta here😳😭😟
I never really understood people saying they NEED their families approval before getting married BUT chooses to go an unconventional route like going on a dating show like LIB or MAFS. If you’re going to base you decision on what your family will say, maybe don’t go on a show like this.
Wait his family has a concern I missed that part I thought his family is concerned with them moving across the country is there something else going on??
@@mwoods4608I would be so concerned if my brother went on a TV show to marry someone he met 2 weeks ago in a pod. This is a crazy thing to do, and yes a few of the relationships work out but it's still crazy
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for reminding me of the locked cabinets!! I totally forgot and none of the other reviewers remembered/mentioned it. I thought her parents were coming off a little too nonchalant, and now we know they were being fake AF. Mom was so concerned about “appearances” since way back!
The apartment visits crack me up because you know that there’s a whole camera crew coming to your house and you can’t hire a cleaning person? lol at least ask your sibling or friend to organize the house for you 😂
I’m sorry but Ramses being so leftist yet not understanding and respecting that birth control is something that is on BOTH parties and shouldn’t just be a women’s responsibility is insaneeeeeeee. Like how are you so wrapped up in condom use like this? The ENTITLEMENT. A man will ALWAYS disappoint you.
Oh by 18 my mom wanted me OUT. I am African American btw. Cut off and she wanted me to either move out or pay rent !! I accrued so much debt … 19 I had my 1st eviction! I had no understand of how to run a household or budget or anything. I am 31 now, married with 2 little boys..I would literally NEVER. A lot of parents thinks its making the kids stronger, its not! I was forced out and at 31 still paying for my financial mistakes I made as a 18 year old!
the fact that he said last year (2022) he was by himself on christmas just for the ex fiancé of the woman said he was WITH THE KIDS on christmas ! this man is wickeddd
Trash behavior generally for Tyler, but I think there's more nuance to this story because in the pictures the mom is posting the kids are much younger than they are now. The pics look a few years old.
I think Hannah's mom and dad were acting for the camera. When Hannah said "aren't you going to grill him?," I think that was because that's what she expected them to do. I think she has been nitpicked and bullied by them her whole life, so that's how she treats others. I feel sorry for her. Hurt people hurt people.
If that's the case, it is sad, but it does not justify her treatment of Nick. People should take accountability for their action, and they should not weaponize their childhood trauma to treat their partner like dirt.
@@Miranda-gi9fx Oh, I agree 100%...she's a grown woman and should be accountable for her behavior. I was just trying to shed a light on reasons why she feels the way she feels. I do feel sorry for her, but she still needs to step up and own her stuff. Sometimes, our parents show us what not to do.
Oh that's interesting! I hope that's not the case, but who knows. I actually thought it could be the other way around, that the parents are very secure, loving parents who have spoilt her 😅 and that because of that, she is bossy and expects a certain treatment because she's used to getting what she wants. It was just my thought cause I've met spoiled girls like that with calm, loving parents who give them everything and basically allow their kids to boss them around. But that's just my association, I don't know her situation. EDIT: OK I commented this before Queen got to the part about her being cut off at 18, that's harsh. Doesn't sound like something that kind of parent I described would do
I don’t feel sorry for Hannah, she’s taken out whatever happened with her family on Nick, that’s for her to deal with she shouldn’t be protecting on Nick but Nick is a bum for living with his parents.
Crazy! Only reason he said that is cuz he feels guilt or shame and knows it’s baggage cuz it IS. If it wasn’t and he truly was a friend in a time of need and has legal protections around the donorship then it shouldn’t have been something so difficult to talk about. But some people are obsessed with making babies like “the man with 10,000 kids” on Netflix.
Hannah’s parents are gaslighters. Kicking her out of the house for anything other than serious drug abuse is not normal. Even then most parents hang on. Listen to the micro-aggressions from the father. She learned being hyper critical from her parents. (Hey Zim Queen! SA princess here xxx)
@@karenmare3720 yes! I made this same comment. Learned behavior. You can’t tell me the mom who locked up snacks didn’t criticize Hannah’s weight or make slick comments about her food choices
She's 18 she's a grown adult, she was probably partying and drinking and doing the most and they're like you can do all of that but not under my roof. Our roof our rules and my guest was that is why she moved out
Did I hear correctly when Hannah’s father said something on the lines of “we would have thrown you out of the family a long time ago”? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?💀
Ya i joined the army at 18 right out of high school because my dad said "get a job or get out" so.... I wasn't the smartest kid in school so college wasn't an option (my parents weren't paying for college either). Yes the military was rough!... Then I got married and my husband was medically released, so i stayed to support. We had a baby and got divorced, so i had to stay to support. Some people have no choice but to stay in the military because life happens...but I'm grateful for the opportunities I have with free school and VA benefits now.
Girl why didn’t you mention how absolutely RUDE Marissa’s mother was? The way she talked about his appearance? Chileeeeee that entire scene had my face twisted up. And then called Marissa a b*tch. If so we see where she gets it!!!
" i need a strong woman in my life, like for a wife" - Nick It might be just me but after seeing how little he knows and does, I feel like he wants another mother figure,not a wife. When ppl say single married woman, I feel like Hannah would be signing up for that
You know, I thought Hannah was delulu for saying she “made Nick into a man” during one of these episode previews and you know what.. she was right LOL.
It is funny that Netflix thought they could get away with holding that reveal until the end of Episode 9 and that nobody would call him out online once the first six episodes dropped.
Marissa‘s mother, what a disrespectful and toxic woman. The fact that she thinks it’s OK to talk that way to her daughter calling her a B and to a man that she just met and that her daughter loves. Wow, classless. Giving me mom from Peru vibes from the previous season, what’s wrong with these women projecting their failures onto others. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
How can he go on national tv and not claim his children 😢 that is so telling of who he truly is. Very scary. The kids are innocent and probably really love him.
@@ImaniBelle-tu5nu Omg beyond scary the bm aired him out some more on IG 😱😱 and posted many more pics and videos of him and the kids. That’s really a mess 🤦🏾♀️ now if a man says he has no kids, you gotta investigate to make sure.
He's a disgrace. As a man & father that really boiled my blood to discover this about him. There's really men out here like him but to witness it on a platform like this show is just crazy. I hope Ashley dumps this chump, she deserves way better.
I actually tried to give Tyler grace on this whole sperm donor situation cause it was possible, but baby mama came out and tossed him under that bus. 😅
It might sound weird, but I understand why Hannah is stressed about everything while other people are more chill. Because everyone is chilled, she feels like she is the only one who thinks it is important; it is a very big deal. Thus, she is going to do that 100% perfectly because otherwise, no one else would contribute anything. It also fits my observation of my friends and family members around me; when one person is more chilled about something, the other one, usually the one with a plan and everything, would be more stressed out and even mad about the other since the other doesn't seem to notice the importance of the matter.
I agree 100%. People want that feminine soft energy when man are making their parents pay their bills, have no plan, but try to get married and have their own kids. SMH.
15:00 yes she's the same person but she's ON CAMERA. Omg I actually feel bad for Hannah because this is such a thing people say to kids with crazy parents. The parents present as normal in public and the kids are constantly questioned.
27:52 the fact that he says "it's not disclosed on there" and not "I did not disclose it" is a red flag in itself, distancing himself from the issue like it has nothing to do with him
I forgot Hannah's mom was the one was the one who tried to control her eating. They seemed so sweet, and yes its sus the Gay son wasn't at the lunch with the rest of the family
I didn't even pick up on that! Her parents seem young, wonder what happened that Hannah had to move out at 18. They didn't seem to like Hannah very much.
@vanessao8711 on second thought given her" pleasant"eprosnal8ty maybe she was causing a lot of trouble at home and had to be k8cked out I really what to know what made her this way
Wait wait wait, so he didn't disclose even on the application that he has kids???? OMG this one is pure evil!!! LIB needs to conduct a background test before bringing some of these people on board. WTF does he mean there was never gonna be a right time??? They had all the time in the pods, this one is crazy.
When I turned 18 I was still having to ask permission to go out (I'm hispanic, lol)... such an interesting thing to see that some families really DO kick their kids out at 18, thats so so young.
It definitely can happen in different cultures, where I come I was also always reminded "our roof, our rules". And at 21 when I did not want to follow the said rules I just left, because my other option was to live in apartment (paid by a parent) in the same city and visit my family on weekends. And I'm white, and my parents are not religious at all.
It seems very much a White American thing to me, it always comes from this idea of tough love, this hard work, bootstraps, individualistic mindset that when you’re a “full adult” you NEED to be out on your own. Sometimes with financial but oftentimes just kicked out with no support whatsoever. I dunno, to me it just wreaks of parents who resent their kids very existence.
When I had my second son, my mother in law gave me a book about birth order and you’re right! Birth order plays a very important role in how your character and personality develops. It’s truly fascinating!
That’s exactly what Tyler did! Waited for Ashley to be in too deep then drop the bomb he has kids. That was calculated deception and that alone should’ve ended the relationship!! Also Taylor was calculated because why you didn’t mention wanting to move back to San Diego in the pods?! You come on the show based in DC expecting another person to move across the country?! She could’ve just found someone in San Diego 🤨.
@@cider1286 but still why tf would you come on a show based in DC if you planned on moving to San Diego?! That’s selfish and she should’ve dated the regular way. This process is too fast for that!
hannahs mom saying “are you serious??” when hannah said “im easy to love” kinda hit me lol my mother is very similar in that she’ll act really sweet and chill in person, but behind closed doors she’s extremely critical and dismissive. she can make it look like playful ribbing in public, to “knock me down a peg” but i know it’s not a joke. combine that with the little things hannah has mentioned, like locking up food, and it paints a pretty good picture to me. i’m not excusing how hannah treats nick at all, i’m just saying the dynamic she has to deal with can really mess with a person.
Marissa heard "Cancer, Leo, Leo" and heard wedding bells. Big mistake! I only have faith for Garret and Taylor at this point. Everyone else...... *crickets*
Tyler is insane to me. Like wtf is he doing? How did he think this would end? And it pisses me off because I loved them as a couple. I trust nothing I see on this show anymore.
@ClaimsAdjusteroftheYear Dating in DC is awful. It was voted one of the loneliest cities in the country. The DMV itself is just rough for dating. People have big egos, are too busy with work, don't have manners, the list goes on.
Baybee...the way I've dated a Tyler... as a fellow DMVer I also knew it was going to be bad. Dating a prideful, arrogant demon who has an entire wife and/or kids in the closet is too common an experience here.
I get that everyone grows and develops more in a serious relationship but let it be known that Nick IS actually behind most grown adults and he’s definitely still coddled by his parents lol.
Just finished the new episodes and your recaps so have to share my thoughts lol bc it's TOO much going on 1. Ashley needed a internet sleuthing bestie and i'm shocked she didn't have one because me and my homegirls would've found this secrets with a SWIFTNESS, like let's go through linkedin connections just to be safe! 2. Hannah's still mean, Nick don't like her either but (said this on the last post too) they want that bag and that's valid 3. Alex's apartment was CRAZY! Her overall behavior, outside of things related to her family, is a little odd to me. I think she may be depressed or something and then it comes out in poor ways and adds to why her apartment was SO messy. Tim seems very genuine, kind and put together, and they don't seem compatible. Hopefully they don't say yes at the altar - if they even make it there, I fear that massive Mexico fight was not going to be the last major blow up because they haven't discussed changing/working on communication styles much at all (at least not on camera). 4. LOVEEEEE Taylor and Garrett. Loved her friends being normal and trusting in Taylor's choice of a partner to the degree they wanted to make sure HE was truly understanding the gravity of what moving to San Diego would mean for his life. I'm believing he is a product of the wife glow up, especially in cali - it's giving cali look! 5. Marissa's mom is abusive and it was actually terrifying when she just called her a B- like it was nothing and no one seemed shocked or said anything to contest it shows how normal her crazy behavior is, but her siblings seem lovely. Ramses or however you spell his name is giving down with the patriarchy UNTIL it effects me and my pee bc boo condoms like??! Crazy to be so "f-k the patriarchy" and progressive when he's essentially telling a woman what to do with her body and take away her autonomy bc he just doesn't enjoy it as much...like boy if you don't go somewhere and offer a damn vasectomy or something, like come up with a solution that doesn't cause your partner to change something she explicitly stated she doesn't want to change!
This Tyler thing is not making any sense to me at all. If you were helping your lesbian couple friends have a family, that is a conversation you would have with someone you claiming you are falling in love with...IMMEDIATELY. There is no shame in hiding that right? Unless... But I am really stuck on WTH was Love Is Blind Pre-production doing?! Aren't court documents like suits and child support orders public record? I mean, if TMZ can find things out, why not LiB pre-production team. I get reality tv drama, but this is cruel. What's next, they going to have a sx offender on the show and they won't disclose that until right before the wedding?
i have no idea why the background lighting change sent me but it did. 😂 i think it was the, "lemme change it real quick," in combination w| the remote swing over the head. 💀⚰️ thank you for the laugh. 😅
that’d be so cool to see your study on birth order queen:) CUS I AGREEEEE, i feel alex and hannah so much😭 but they gotta realize they need much more level headed “strong” men (alex is with a youngest sibling and nick was spoiled by his mother) ramses not wanting to have condom sex cus it’s not pleasurable, he’s a social justice warrior for everything else but this? 😭
Production also approaches people online to do the show. Izzy said that his season, so I’d doubt their process is very in depth. The bachelor had cast someone with a restraining order on them. So for a background check, probably the only thing they care about are felonies.
just busted out laughing when you were talking about Hannah's mom oh yeah she was the mom locking up snacks!!!! It is always traumatizing when your mom is skinny and you are bigger than your mom.
you're so right. they have such opposing viewpoints on multiple subjects that most couples don't budge on at all and then even astrologically, their signs are atrocious together...
Okay, Tyler is a liar. Fact. What makes me sad is that producers seem to be more interested in the season being successful than at least making the basic background check. It's like: what, a guy has 3 kids? Bring him on! Wait a moment, another has a restraining order? Imagine the drama! I guess in season 12 someone would have a graveyard in the back. Ratings will go through the roof 🫣
My oldest yt friend was "cut off" at 18. It wasn't, like, a thing. They just pretty much expected her to take care of herself at that point. I think for my friend it was a big deal years later after reflecting on the difference between her friend's families and hers. I never realized her parents cut her off until we had a conversation about it in our 30s. I assumed she was just doing her thing with their support same as me, but nah.... Also, your mom is right. Men tend to grow within their marriage and the responsibilities and expectations that come with family.
the way i RAN to netflix when you said Love Is Blind Switzerland i was like no way did I miss my country's season only to realize you probably meant sweden
I'm really annoyed at how Ashley is handling this. She needs to get a backbone. It's almost like she's desperate. Why did she hug him. 😒 Her dad def should've had the energy that Marissa's mom had.
I’ve heard others say they don’t know why she was so upset about it? Upset? This girl did not raise her voice once! And that was before we knew all we knew.
My Theory about Tyler is he is a man who loves to impregnant women as a kink or what have you. He was not joking when he said he wanted 7 kids...oof, that fact that he could nonchalantly talk about kids and having muliptle kids and all the while Ashley thinks shes starting at 0 not 3.
Not surprised if it’s true. She said there’s nothing no one can tell her that would dissuade her from marrying her. She’d willingly be blind to the truth because she’s desperate to get married at all costs.
Does Garrett's family have a problem with him getting married after only three weeks to someone on a reality TV show or do they have an issue with him getting married to a woman who is half Asian? I haven't forgotten about his reaction to Taylor not being white. I still think that's going to be an issue, if not for him then for his family.
This episode is definitely the Spongebob meme with Mr. Krab in the middle of that spiral blur between Marissa's unhealed mom and Ashley wanting TWO kids not knowing she already has FOUR
FYI it is definitely NOT normal to be cut off from financial support and kicked out at 18 in white families. I went to a 4 year college at 18, then lived with my parents for 2 years after getting my degree and then bought a house at 24. Being able to live at home for a while is super beneficial to being able to get yourself on your feet financially. Unless the family is about to go bankrupt or become homeless, I see no good reason for parents to make their kids fend for themselves at 18. That just seems cruel.
A lot of the time getting "cut off" is something that happens in rich families where the parents raise a brat & then they cut them off when they have an out of control adult who's spending too much or acts out too much
So is it a seed donor baby, oops baby or legal baby? Tyler you are worse than Stephen. Hahahaha, I'm enjoying this and I feel very vindicated. I got dragged by alot of people for calling out that menace Tyler since the beginning of the season but hey now that the tables have turned. 😂😂😂
These behaviours of some of the men on this show are troubling. if this is an indication of what dating is in real time, it's a cause for concern for so many reasons.
& 1 last comment 🤭🤣: Ashley is too pretty to settle for Tyler. Talking about I’ll never find someone like you… GIRL, WHAT?! & Yes, Ashley was right to have him talk about his CHILDREN on camera. That is a major conversation that he doesn’t get to silently tell her so close the marriage. He should have told her in the pods 🙄
When Marissa’s mom called Ramses a break dancer from the ‘80s, I screamed! I expected more of the parents to come with that kind of energy. 😂 I’m not sure which couples are going to make it to the altar. It’s been an entertaining season though!
Tyler is giving Legion from the Reesa Teesa chronicles 😒 atp run my girl Ashley her lifetime movie and brand deals so she can at least be compensated for the pain and embarrassment Tyler and Netflix exploited her for 🙄